there is no serving god in being pope

@@harrisonsamwel3112 well said. I agree completely.

@@harrisonsamwel3112 he’s literally the vicar of Christ and the head of the church

Most popes were like that but kept up appearances for the most part.

@@popefrancis8153 not really. It was a created office and Jesus never designated a successor. Most popes were never elected on merit but lineage. Bribery, blackmail and even murder were a norm in electing the (western) Catholic Church.

And otherrs had to go,no matter what. Remember John Pail I? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I

Idk that'd be funny I think

Saying bruh is normie

@@Perririri normie? That's not a thing I've heard since the battle of '16. Perhaps we should keep it there

Saying bruh is normie

@@Perririri It wasn't normie back in the Middle Ages.

Well having two popes is not a new thing. There were even three popes at the same time.

Not saying you’re wrong, but how unpopular could the name be when there were 7 other popes after the IX to use that name?

The king of the Germans usually became Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire of German nation, crowned by the Pope of Rome.

What proof do you have that you don't worship God created by leaders? What if whole bible was made up by generations and generations of edit by these leaders?

@@bunnygirl8482 bibles, Quran, Islam Christianity, Jewish..ect... all designed by some Highe power ( not God ) for control and manipulation of people to not question the creation and the world around them and to distract them compare the ancient Greece, Persia, Rome, Egypt, ect to after when religions appeared! Compare them to medival times! How much humanity was held back until renisance

Sorry of the bad English

😂 the Catholic Church echelons has become exactly the same structure as the Jewish church in the New Testament times, which Jesus denounced.

@@dontalkt2meboutheros Exactly, and what is even more significant is the fact that the Roman Catholic Priesthood continue to make sacrifices and oblations after Jesus caused all sacrifices and oblations to cease 2000 years ago when He Himself became the sacrifice to end all sacrifices in the midst of the 70th and final week of Daniel's 70 week prophecy as recorded in Daniel 9:24-27. We know that the Jewish hierarchy (priesthood) also continued to make sacrifices after Christ's crucifixion because they didn't acknowledge the blood of Jesus. To put a permanent end to this abomination, God used the Roman Tenth Legion to raze the Temple to the ground and scattered the Jews. Soon, God will do the same to their Roman Catholic equivalents.

@@vaticanjesuitNWO Remember though, with God anything is possible.

@@dontalkt2meboutheros ???

@@vaticanjesuitNWO Seriously? My comment shouldn't render 3 question marks. You should know the depth of that meaning. Surely?

Actually not true! The very word "Catholic" nean "Universal" as in united... not saying which side was right or wrong, but the Catholic side wanted to maintain the church united (under Rome of course) while the other refused (cause they didn't thought Rome had the right of supremacy)... valid argument, if you think which (supposedly) virgin claims to be the representative of Christ is valid whatsoever. Again, not at all interested in "right" and "wrong", just in accurancy, but the Catholic side wanted unification, while the Orthodox side did not, probably for good reasons, but... that makes the Orthodox Church the very definition of breaking out from a united (Catholic) system...

@@Skerdy the terms "catholic" and "orthodox" are technicall terms, they don't represent a theological or dogmatic accuracy. 1) the catholic church may not be a real universal church because the authority of the pope was only on the geographic regions of Europe, the eastern churches have authority on Asia and Africa. The church of Rome had only one patriarch (the pope) bat the eastern churches had 4 patriachets ( Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem). So the eastern churches looks Mach more universal than Rome. 2) at 10th century the eastern empire had a huge population in large cities , in the same era west had no big population. 3) the supremacy of the Rome is recognized by the eastern churches bat eastern traditions is not understanding this supremacy as an authority of the pope over the entire churche, the supremacy in the eastern tradition is understud as a Honore among the pentarchy of the 5 patriarchetes, bat this honore it das'not mean the pope has the right to have opinion or roll in the internal of an other patriarchete.

You are right that the church split in two. The cause was culture and changing the Nicean Creed as well as papal authority. Cuture: the Western churches used Latin in the liturgy while the Eastern Churches used the common languages of the people. The liturgy was different in the west as many churches developed their own styles of worship and prayer (the Dominion Rite, the Liturgy of St. James are two examples). The Eastern churches used The Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. The monastics in the West practiced a more communal life while the Eastern monastics were individual in practice only gathering for Liturgy. Creed and papal authority: the Roman pontiff inserted the filique into the creed without the approval of a council. The Council of Nicea formulated the creed so a council was needed to change it. Those differences are why the churches never have been in full communion with each other. The West did not unify it's Liturgy untill The Council of Trent 1000 years later. The Western churches are not in full communion with each other and sadly remains much less united than those in the East.

If you read the early Church fathers, you would see that the Church has always been Catholic united with the Petrine Primacy.

Both are wrong. Constantine created the story both believe in which is based on Roman Gods he believed in. I know it's too late to go back but Atleast try to.

Na. Kennedy and Bush familie make this look amateurish.

Only if what you mean by "was a Catholic" is r*ping animals, which I mean that's not too far off when you see what's done to children

XVI

The Pope you wrote about, Benedict the 9th, was born in 1012. He is very much not alive today.

Yeah, the garter to you back the herder it is to say that entities like earthen church or Catholic church or “the church” existed. Not lots of official records from a minority religion of slaves and the poor.

Some people wanted power so they founded catholic church

Actually the Catholic Church doesn’t teach that the Pope is installed by God. The Church believes that God works with who ever the college of cardinals elect. Any organization that is over 2,000 years will certainly have very bad leaders at some point.

That's a truth

Check out Mr Voltaire's voluminous writings on the Jews and then ask yourself if you wanna quote him as some clever wise man.

@@polemeros that's the most stupid thing I've heard all week

@@hugsli How so?

@@hugsli You are observant. Voltaire was a Rationalist. He wrote a lot on Judaism because Christianity is a descendant of the Abrahamic bloodline. Just like Islam claims to be.

You spelt America wrong

They're not really broke off from anyone, they were just one of many spurs from the past Christian sect being organized locally and had their own unique creed and canonical Bible in many ancient cities that will continue to live on, and the major archbishop for Christian at that time were consisted of Constantinople, Rome, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Alexandria, but again there were another in Armenia, Abyssinia, Nubia, Gaelic, etc. Then of course being unified after the Meeting of Niceae in 3rd century, but then again in the midst of East-West Schism in 8-9th century, actually more or less the Catholic Roman Church had been organized as independent archbishop from any influence from Constantinople, and since the beginning they have few exclusive privilege more than other archbishop. For me the correct term might be Latin church and Greek church parting away in opposing direction from being one unified Church.

* 29 AD

Other way round.

A simple read of the Church fathers confirm that the Church has always been Catholic in union with the Petrine Primacy.

Yeah, Controlled by powerful people rather than community itself. Catholic church is similer to dictator who can bend history the way he wants. Do people even know real history of jesus and early church?

They both broke up from each other. Usually smaller parts break from the big part so the best way to determine who broke from who is to figure out which one had the largest membership at that time.

Idiocy of some sedevacantist

@@tobyroyparkerjr.233 no sedevacantist here. They are popes. Just bad popes.

History keeps on showing us that humans are imperfect

@@popefrancis8153 After a long and notorious history, the bishop of Rome 'giving' Ireland to the King of England was the final nail in the coffin. The Sees closing of Scriptorums killed education for the laity, it's replacing of an Abbess with Temporally appointed Abbot's, an abhorrence. Canada's residential school system, just icing on the cake of corruption that includes gross antisemitism. That sir is well beyond simple imperfection.

Oh and let's not mention it tolerances for child diddling priests.

@@mikemcmullin149 that sir is humanity in a nutshell You can’t expect total Godliness when you have humans in control of something

Any organization that is over 2000 years old will certainly have many bad leaders. Humans are just flawed.

Why? Just because he reformed your religion rituals?

@@bunnygirl8482 My “religion rituals”? Dolt.

Why

@@sarto2010 double standards

Sure...

Do you understand Catholicism? He was chosen by the bishops if you don’t agree then that makes you a christian protestant.

@@KTBFFH8 Technically by the cardinals but yeah you're right

@@KTBFFH8 I understand more than you. Yeah he's the pope sure. But just like not all the president of a country's does good stuff always a pope can be the same. Just because he is the pope doesn't mean he cant be wrong. In fact francis is a disgrace to the chair of st.peter.

Any man that desires to be called holy father is a child of satan. Only God is the Holy Father.