Strangely, that's how overthrown governments happen too!! I wonder why they are closing all of the pubs nowadays? Hmmm....

@Breakup bigtech it's not a public service if it's privately paid for on private land, is it?

@Breakup bigtech free enterprise is a good thing. Making money whilst providing a beneficial service/product as in this case is what makes us great. I have done many a deal in a pub. What has a toll road got to do with Nigel Farage you donut?

@@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 100%

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It would be worse if they didn't block the road. My city council came and tried to fill a pothole, during the rainy season, outside my house. Didn't block the road, their efforts and my tax money were gone in less than 24 h

@@HercadosP Or the workers get hit and killed. Closing the road/lane seems appropriate.

Big Governments = overreaching and extremely inefficient. Give me local contractors any day of the week :)

@@TheLocoRunner this road made a loss of tens of thousands of pounds. and because of the lack of consultation with the "big government", they disturbed a historical site and possibly worsened the problem with the road down hill. The "entrepreneur" couldnt afford to fix anything and left it all, the builders removed the road for free out of pity, and archaeologists had to come to investigate how much damage was done.

@@danielarmfield8226 rly

Max K Brazil after 10 days: okay, so we’ve decided to build a road, but will it be ready in 5 or 10 years?

Ahhh the Montreal construction Mafia. I love the sight of orange construction cones in the morning

Bruno Lopes but when do we want to begin construction *

I'm sorry, is this some sort of foreign joke that I'm too Dutch to understand?

beunhaas Montreal, in the Quebec province of Canada. Construction times take forever apparently.

did they break even though?

Layarion cost £300,000 and they made a loss of £10,000-15000

@@SpiderManonTRT ouch, so they lost the house?

And it’s gone from Google Maps

@@eleethtahgra7182 what is?

Well, they were shown up by him. Of course they were pissed off. They're a council as well, which often tend to be full of overly-sensitive people with big egos.

Of all of the things that I want to be famous for a Luddite wouldn't be one of them but surely we've gotta be smarter than this.

What I really hope is that they learn from this situation, and build two roads between these cities.

Do you know if he got his money back?

thatthinker they said he needed 150,000 cars to pass through and 100,000 had already passed through in the video

Abruzzi from prison break

sadly none of the local council were available for comment

A 20s gangster

Good for him, it's people like him who got us to where we are today. Certainly not governments or counsils.

Myeah, nice road you got here council. Would be a shame if something happened to it, see. Myeah.

Should have charged £2.50 or £3 instead of £2 and it would have more than broken even, even if some people had decided to use the official detour instead of paying the increased toll.

Did they lose their house?

@@enkiimuto1041 doesn't say but unlikely, the original builders removed the road free of charge and HM Revenue and Customs also agreed to waive the shortfall in VAT due.

@@sebianoti Scrolling up a bit, posted by 'Adam' " 'As the toll road company had insufficient funds for the reinstatement works, the original builders of the road offered to do this at no charge. HM Revenue and Customs also agreed to waive the shortfall in VAT due.' I guess both the government and the road building company were good sports about it"

@@Damaniel3 Hindsight is great isn't it. We don't know how many people would have chosen the detour on account of the increased toll, so we have no idea whether increasing it would have resulted in a better or a worse financial outcome.

Is it that bad? There is a job vacancy there I'm interested in and I've been considering moving to Bath.

Stavros Sp. bruh

@@StifSP No it's not bad at all

@@StifSP Bath is a lovely place. I was merely being satirical.

Trouble maker....

We are the subtitle gang

[Excited motorcycle noises]

@@JaEDLanc yes they already know you heard and saw, so thanks for your pointless comment

: )

that wasn't a " MOTORCYCLE ", that was a hairdryer , oh and i hate them things

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That's what happens when the government has competition.

Disgusting behaviour!

Why did they even care??

Would have been nice if the public who uses that road would kick in to cover his losses. Because of him, they saved a massive amount of time and money, both because of the shortcut, and the fact that it made the government get the road repaired way ahead of schedule.

Guess they need another landslide XD

Dang. They should have upped the toll price.

Should have made the cost to use it more.

The city should have covered the cost, for doing such a great public service.

@@protorhinocerator142 But they did... They waived the money as VAT or something along those li es.

I remember on almost all road trips I took with my family we always took the "scenic route", and I absolutely hated it. There was no reason for us to take it since my parents never paid attention to anything on it, and it easily extended our time on the road by a few hours.

@@rockl79 your parents just wanted to spend the extra time with you

Highway 1 in California in the sea again, was a bit longer

To be fair, driving in the UK is about 4 times as expensive as it is in the US due to the price of fuel. So ignoring the time wasted and looking at it purely in terms of fuel cost, driving 14 miles in the UK is roughly equivalent to driving 56 miles in the US.

@@rhidiandavies1991 I live in California, where gas is about $4.30 a gallon right now. In the UK gas is $7.00 a gallon, but cars are also smaller. Average mpg for new cars is 50. Anything newer than 2010 is at least 30 mpg. As long as you aren’t driving a truck you’ve still got the advantage.

In New York, it might take a century (see Second Avenue Subway).

That it is possible to build faster says nothing of whether this is a good idea.

not union

MoneyIsSilver what’s your problem with the Freemasons?

wen i took my drivers license in 2004 they had already been working on the 4lanes highway here (ca 70km) they completed it this may. -Norway

They did pump extra money to rush it and save face.

zlozlozlo that's the British way.

+zlozlozlo - Well, what did they think was going to happen? They came up with this whole Toll Road idea when they were DRINKING at the local pub. How many drunkard ideas did they think have actually been successful?

I hope they made him dig up the damn road too!

Good for the public though. They paid less and had their commute's subsidized by private money.

Sounds like my town to me.

Hey, that's where your taxes went! To pay a guy to dig a hole and another one to fill it in

@@HercadosP Where I live 80% of the taxpayers money goes to bureaucracy and paperwork for approval to dig a hole, 20% is left for the actual work.

Germany ?

@@timmy7201 Definetly germany

+Just a Quad They didn't make the money back: www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-30078393

They lost a bit of money, but not a lot. I think it was kind of implied that the loses were small enough that everyone walked a way without major damage to their financial situation.

Aw. Was hoping for some people to "stick it to the man" and just run pass the toll road (which is illegal) without paying with no legal repercussions (since the road is illegal).

It's private property, thus he can take a picture of your licence plate and report you to the cops.

You would be liable to pay a penalty then by law.

+Bungis Albondigas You mean 'road tax'

ROBwithaB, are other people free to set up "their" bridge? You know for competition. Then they could charge less and drivers could choose the bridge they want to cross.

Joel Martin No one would invest in another bride if they'd have to compete with others. You virtually split the traffic 50/50 if there's a large amount of viechles anyways, making profits really small.

@@tapwater424 Its called a natural monopoly, high fixed costs to build the bridge and not enough customers.

Plum Bit or “private road tax”, since it was built by the locals

I think it would work as the B plot to a Will Sharpe show.

They did ! Did you watch the video?

@breathingsunshine " hassled and extorted him! " ... I mean what else does government do? public services? HA not since reagan and thatcher ....

@breathingsunshine I suspect the original commentor meant on a pre-existing road as a scam.

To be fair to the council: they have to build a road that'll last 50+ years, taking much heavier traffic - and they have to stabilise the land under it. That takes a long time, and they don't own any other land to route around. The toll road only has to last a few months!

Because the official road is a lot more sophisticated would be my guess.

***** not to mention the lack of incentive for the workers to get the job done in a hurry.

Kombaiyashii Many large-scale construction projects have bonuses and penalties that are dependent on progress and/or completion dates. So to say off-hand that there are no incentives without looking into the contracts is just hand waving. Yes, it is possible that there is no completion date stipulation. However that is very unlikely.

***** Did the Romans have such as well?

I don't know. The Coastguard?

"Loud pipes save lives bro"

2T wanna be cool, so he removed his muffller padding :D

louder than a 777

Tons of students like that at my university. It’s annoying af

come to third world country with big motorbike culture and yall westener would die for the pettiest thing, I swear

“The sign said ‘fine for parking’, so I parked there.”

Or as I see it, Hey this place is unguarded. I can do what I want here.

Because it's no longer in use.

1DABTube it was probably not on Apple maps while it was in use. But it's still on Google Maps while being out of use.

Nothing is

Apple maps is like the opposite of the room of requirement, it only contains things you don’t want.

It is on Apple Maps.

"A toll is a toll, you can't say it's only a half" FTFY

amazing quote. i had forgotten about that movie.

Sean Lewis I believe it comes from the movie men in tights

*don't get ANY tolls *don't eat ANY rolls

Price of the toll: Watch the rick roll video

but it wasnt really, they werent 100 % supportive but when the toll road guy didnt get his money back the waived his VAT etc.

Darian Zielinsky you’re damn right! They are out for theirs and to hell with what the citizens think of it ! Just get that tax dollars!!

Queen's gotta get hers

Absolute bollocks. If the council had spent £150k building a temporary road the tax payer would be furious.

@@berealisticdemandthe Councils quite regularly pay much more in contract penalties due to changes in signed contracts, it just doesn't get published. £150k is nothing in legal action to any UK council. Stupid thing is the council should have approached the landowner before the work started and managed the whole issue. I like the fact that the locals did it anyway!

It all boils down to money at the end of the day.

The town does not own any of the land around the road. They could not do it, unless they were to purchase the land from someone.

"Counsel"

To if it obstructs the light, the view, the access or the water supply to neighbours...

You'd change your tune if your neighbour had a 60 foot hedge that blotted out the light to your property and interfered with your TV reception, or built an 80 foot eyesore that you had to look at every time you left the house.

@@simonsimon325 it’s their property, you’d have to just build something that benefits you

@@delcat8168 if it’s on their property it wouldn’t obstruct the neighbors property or their water

@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 good idea time to build a nuclear reactor on my property what could go wrong

well... he did not. He "Just broke even". www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2836835/Businessman-hailed-hero-opening-private-toll-road-set-close-claims-won-t-make-penny-council-finds-660-000-fund-repairs-end-road-closure.html

lepondro01 I don't see where you see that. Maybe they updated the article. I think he was expecting to break even before they moved up the A431 fix. But since they moved it up, he lost 10-15k pounds. Source: www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-30078393 (Unless I'm misunderstanding "adrift", being a yank :P)

well... this means that some quantum physics must be in play, he lost and broken even all at the same time!

iiorblivionii I sure "We have lost out" says it all. Of course can expect all those he helped out to have find raiser to cover his looses can't he? :). To even to make such a gamble h e surel had the means to absorb a %100 loss or had an very expensive lesson. We shouldn't forget it was lookingg for better route to get to a very nice residence is what got the idea on the road, but if it would pay for itself all the better. Many talk like the needs of the public was the motivation, when the motivation was what he and his wife needed/wanted. even eith the side benefit I can'tconsifered the man some sortof extra ordinary hero. That would be the land owner who it's report didn't get any compensation. Although if the restoration of the road i done right that should a very productive port of his land. Most likely the hardpan has been breached and more water will be stored by the soil

iiorblivionii He was expecting to make thousands of pounds, as the road had originally been scheduled to stay closed for six more weeks. Instead, at 150k pounds to build and 150k pounds to maintain, he breaks even. The last six weeks were his profit weeks, and he sees none. No loss, or at most a marginal loss though, and a fair bit of fame, so it's probably a net positive for the guy.

L

Good.

@@Antreas1994 min wager spotted

That sucks. It seems like they had the money to afford it, but still, you want good deeds to be rewarded, not punished.

Not a bad result if you ask me. Building that road cost quite a bit.

and then the council got angry and paid extra to finish the road faster so that the person here would leave at a loss

@@bananya6020 Gotta make sure to put those meant to be ruled in their place, especially when bested by the plebs. Same sickening, petty, wanna-be tyrants exist universally wherever there's "power."

​@@bananya6020 that's not what happened, the road was just finished earlier than expected they even waived his taxes for the loss to compensate him, stop making things up

Trying really hard to imag... Got it.

I literally can't.. I have aphantasia..

@@nikkiofthevalley you can't imagine things?

@@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296 Search what aphantasia is.

@@nikkiofthevalley Not being able to mentally visualise things is not the same as not being able to imagine things, you foolish fool.

Pokestop*

StopN'Poke*

Stop Drop and Poke*

@@Kaiwala I thought that was what they called the local dogging area... (FYI: Don't look that up)

@@jackgreen7989 I should've listened

Read because a toll on every single street is what we want.

Well arguably the toll is a sort of mini-tax for those that want to use it. You already pay to use roads, just it is through a tax, not a toll.

Blackforest98, you really think road ownership would stay "mom & pop"? No. There would be road owners associations and corporations in no time that owned all the roads in town. You wouldn't be stopping at toll booths; you'd be paying a monthly bill. Kind of like what you do now, except smaller and voluntary.

Is this a meme or something?

Or people that want more regulations on their economy aka socialism even though the British economy is already overregulated.

but socialism is worker's control over the means of production, not regulation of business ;w;

+百合ヶ咲るる That only works in theory. However, in practice, that requires government force to give workers' control and it is extremely inefficient at best and you know what happened in the what one hundred years?

How come? Can you elaborate?

I'm not from the council, but I don't like rich landowners and profiteers making money exploiting workers and trying to undermine local government.

If they have sense, the toll payments from the pub would be offered as a gift or as a tab against future beer purchases. This would keep any such payments off the tax books. If they did this, the chances are quite high that the real figure from the toll road was actually a small profit rather than a small loss.

... and a thank-you-letter from the state, for solving a traffic-problem they couldn't solve. Just that some people are very sensitive about anyone making money with anything, unless it's themselves and it doesn't include work....

He didn't. The old road reopened and the toll road has been removed.

George Strange That's too bad. I hope the loss wasn't so bad that they had to sell their house.

Smart idea although he did lose money as the road was rebuilt sooner than expected

I think he likes to keep his hat on!

Yhm.. no. This would be highly unpractical, so rather sooner than later the owners would come up with a convenient solution for the road users.

Pelle Olsson No, they would not. That's how the situation was in central Europe, especially in germany, for a vew hundert years. There was no united germany but small dukedoms, and on every passing a border, you had to pay crossing tolls - until the toll unions - "Zollvereine" were founded,

lodevijk Well a road tax that also aims to make a profit. And it would inevitably cause a monopoly, as you can't really change your road provider if you are dissatisfied with what they are charging for the street you live on.

It wouldn't look like this if roads were privatised en masse. Since travel is an economic necessity, road maintenance would take the form of road businesses creating contracts for users (especially other businesses which use 18 wheelers). Once this network is built up, it would likely end up something like your gas bill. All our gas comes from the national grid but we buy them through companies which use the infrastructure (also like our telephone companies). Companies would allocate different turfs to work on according to their local share of the market. No doubt you'll see advertising on the roads saying exactly who built what road (to compete against other road companies).

Kombaiyashii Yeah and you would have to pay what they see fit to drive on the roads. You can at least change provider on your phone, which keeps the prices does. A bit harder to change what roads you drive on. Either way, the roads still needs to be payed for. But I think the current system is better than a privatized road network.

No ones replied so I just want you to know that 74 people enjoyed your comment from two years ago

Agreed

@@anthonyhadsell2673 so nice

Just came

I saw the video and said to myself "oh yes I'm going to love this"

Tis but a water enriched dirt patch

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Yes...

Oddly enough building a temporary, 400m long road with no surveying, planning, building codes or even a proper metalled surface, doesn't take that long. Fixing a main road so it can handle millions of cars a year, safely, with adequate drainage and keep doing it for years without the risk of another landslide, takes some time.

In Hatfield a landslide took 5 months to stabilise the land and repair a railway, that had shifted, 5m up and 15m sideways. The ground was still moving 2 months later. Britain can be brilliant. These guy skipped the studies to see if they would damage the slope, the permission, the proper road surface to keep vehicles in good condition. Thank you guys for doing what council could not. Council would have been sued.

That's half true Yes that private road won't hold up heavy traffic for long, but public roads can take so long due to soooo many wrongdoings, like when the construction company stall the worksite because they don't get paid in time, they can wreck the pavement, don't receive the sidewalk concrete prefabs and so on. Don't underestimate incompetence,lazyness,frustration and anger, they can transform a worksite into hell

Damn! That's not so nice then, still, he had the option to do it, though damaging an acheological site is far from good. How did he damage it? was it known to be there?

Agustín Amenabar​​ AFAIK It hasn't even been conclusively proven that the construction of the toll road damaged any archaeological remnants. Here's the two sides of the story: Ms Race: "We applied for retrospective planning permission because it was the right thing to do but I wish we never had. It has cost us a further £25,000 so far. Most recently they have dug up an archaeologist from somewhere and they seem utterly determined to, dare I say it, bankrupt us". The Council: "The toll road goes through an area of medieval strip lynchets (banks of earth caused by ancient farming practices) and field boundary earthworks, and will have damaged the archaeology. Archaeological investigations will need to be carried out during the reinstatement of the land in order to understand what was there and the damage caused." Via: www.bristolpost.co.uk/Kelston-toll-road-couple-hit-council/story-24524033-detail/story.html#ixzz3R3YbNnPu And second of all when do we say enough is enough with regards to preservation? 500 years from now we'll have preservationists going around saying how we have to preserve what we know today as landfills.

true, you don't need to preserve absolutely everything old found. Sometime some part is enough, if we preserved everything he would be no space for new history to be made.

From the perspective of the landowner...

@@elizaehrlich It's not about preserving, it's about recording. When archeologists dig up a site it is not preserved either. Archeoleogists record what has been there so future generations can access the records of what is no longer there.

There are private toll roads all over America, there's like 2000 private highways alone

+MrRideutah yes, but they are very likely approved before being constructed...

Not likely. I the US, people can pretty much do what they want with their land, as long as it isn't in a city.

Timothy Fish you are misinformed.

rarelibra Not so. In the US, if someone wants a road running through their farm, they hop on their tractor and make one.

I see you and me both wont let old habits go

@@geocb always good for a chuckle out of nowhere.

this is a fantastic joke, cant believe I havent seen it before

damn straight

I see you everywhere.

... Hilariously, most of the 'Bassett one still appears to be there!

Yes thats exactly what it is. The toll is there to pay for the road that was privately funded.

That describes a road

They lost ~10,000 pounds.

2stroke now use cleaner oil. I love my 2stroke

it's just small engines. it is not making the Earth hotter. Thermoelectric plants are lot worse.

since its a local construction company, they probably have the format in their files.

@@ca-ke9493 fair enough it's not even that hard to make your own. Road sign fonts are generally publicly available for download online