Umburah Oscura I know the feels. It’s a scary situation to be in

Perish biach

Then he shall perish.

"I can't live without you" "Then die"

“I’ll jump off this ledge if you don’t stay” “Well do a backflip then”

If ANYONE threatens you with Self harm,leave.Not only partners.Friends,family anyone.

THIS THIS THIS!!!! i got into a relationship at 16 with a guy (18) and after 3 months of dating i tried to leave, and he would throw himself on the floor crying hyperventilating saying hed kill himself as soon as i left the house. I stayed doing that every 3 months for a year and a half bc i didnt want his death on my hands. Finally one day i said fuck you im done and he messaged for days and days and days about how hes sooooo close to killing himself. I kept every message. Anyway about 2 years later he messages me asking how im doing💀 i was like.... didnt you... didnt you say........ why ARE U ASKING *ME* IF IM OKAY lmfaooo people like that are fucking insane man. Im glad i got out before he could have done something but it wears you down to nothing. I really thought at 16 years old that id have to be with that guy forEVER seeing as i couldnt leave. Take note. Never settle and never give in to "im going to kill myself" yall. Leave as soon as you hear those words come out their damn mouths. There is no fixing!!! I mf repeat there is NO FIXING!!!

@@cosmicnic I was in a relationship like this where he cheated on me and I found out and he started threatening me with his life saying that I didn’t care if he lived and that he would kill himself.I was 14 at the time and I tried leaving him several times before and he kept threatening me so at that point I needed help out of that relationship and I got people to help but looking at it now he was more abusive than I thought because he would always blame me for how he was feeling and he always tried making me look like the bad guy even after we broke up.He blamed it on me believing rumors even tho he was abusive and a cheater

Exactly. BUT even if they are lying to control and manipulate you, treat is as a serious threat. The first thing you do when they threaten self harm is call the police or ambulance.

@@shinyeevee1845 oh yeah. those types if people dont even remember it at all, but for people like you and i it just stays in our mind and they have no clue. im sorry you went through that hun❤

Pure karma. I'm someone who loves revenge and karma, so I will go out of my way to make people pay for stuff. For example, if someone tripped up my friend, clearly on purpose, then said 'oops' sarcastically, I'd go out of my way to do the same to them. I find it satisfying. I laughed my head off when they said he slipped to his death.

Moo 2310 you’re a bloody twisted, petty individual and iiiiiiiii love it

@@ellafairhurst9511 Lol I sure am.

What if Maria pushed him?

@@zombieXgirl94 doubt it, even in death she doesn’t seem to be the petty type

Good sarcasm i hope

Ikr

especially when he begged & forced her to stay with him.

I don’t think it just men sexist

@@oliverprice7239 how many women have you heard that have done that compared to men?? Significantly less

Mallory mathews I think she made him "lose his footing " on the ladder...I like to think so anyway.

@@sheenaalexis8710 me too... I don't think he wanted to die, so I'm peace with it... I hope her family is too

she did though but ok

@@jordanapulla4322 she didn't. Her murderer didn't even serve her full sentence

Literally!

Same XD

Me

Kennedy Lynn SAME HERE 😂

Shoe?

@@thisisprab In countries like the US and Canada you don't call the back area of a vehicle "the boot" (you call in the trunk) so to those viewers, seeing a title that says "woman in the boot" sounds like a woman is in a boot you wear on your feet (aka a shoe)

yup! also run if they want to marry you when it's only been like a year omg

Major sign of BPD or HPD

That's how my ex gf was😭

@@arsonaero80085 Yeah, I've had two ex's like that. They are not fun people to be with.

@@ummtalhah313 Not always but yes it could be.

So did i

Oh yeah they do lol

well as someone from the country in which the english language originated from, it's boot... not 'trunk'. I mean Jesus Christ who do you think you are, a fucking elephant?

@Ngaire Maeve you don’t have to be rude about it she didn’t make the language so its not her fault!

American here. It did sound odd till they said they found her car and smells from the boot/trunk of the vehicle. Words have different meanings depending on where you live but that is ok. But it does make me wonder if boot means the back part of a vehicle, what to the call their tall shoes?

...thought i was the only one...

same

Saaammmeeee!!!

OMG SAME!

Me too

I was so hopeful after hearing that, I thought she'd survived!! 😭😭 Him dying was Karma!!

You only did this to spoil ending, and you did for me

Goodlies spoiled the whole thing thanks alot

Apparently her body had already begun decomposing, given the extreme heat :(

@@lolaparkhurst2016 The comment section is for people to discuss the video, if you don't want "spoilers" then don't read the comments.

GODDESS ENERGY

jesus lol

A wonderful comeback. It's tragic that your ex wasn't mature enough to just accept if the relationship was over.

As you should ☺️

Yes! 😌💅🏽💕

shes a marriage wrecker. no sympathy she knows how it feels and still does it....

EXACTLY!!! I love Eleanor‘s videos and I love that she likes to make sure that we have everyone’s side and background in these videos and it’s great and I love how she puts in so much detail but I have absolutely no sympathy for Tania(Homewrecker) she deserves to rot in hell honestly I can’t believe that she let this man into her and her CHILDS life enough for her to be so desperate enough in that moment that she actually murdered this woman this innocent loving and sweet woman it’s disgusting and to even have her Daughter call him dad like WHAT?! Some role model she is teaching her daughter to be an unfaithful, lying, manipulative, and murdering a person just for an Evil Narcissistic MARRIED MAN. Just absolutely disgusting and sickening and I really just don’t have any hope for human kind.

@@Jadebug2214 idk, i feel like all of that is a bit harsh... now, i'm not saying that what she did is excusable, but considering this was a depressed and unstable woman who was manipulated by a terrible man who just couldn't make up his damn mind and stay faithful to one person, i do feel bad for her it sounds like she really regretted everything that happened, and even pleaded guilty for (at the time of her trial) nearly killing this woman i truly, from the bottom of my heart, wish her the best with her wife, and hope that she's learned from all this

Exactly 😂

@@jessamynroguski9649 Dw, people are just ignorant and don’t know what emotional abuse is

I feel sorry for Tania herman up until the point where she decided to kill an innocent woman, no sympathy after that

@@piratesfan123 she was manipulated, you'd be pretty cold to have no sympathy

@@thraitor7819 wtf??? Normal people arent manipulated into *murder* you loon

@@doclinny totally agree with you.

@@thraitor7819 pretty cold to murder the man you're having an affair with's wife

Throw the whole damn man away

joe mama

Why get yourself a man like him if you just gonna throw him away tho?

You have to throw him out because he's trash and he's polluting the environment.

@@aloyalbelieverofcowboychar7792 yeet the trashy man meat

• Savy Martin • tyler is a funny guy

I stan tyler

This made me laugh my head off. DAMMIT JOE!

I want to meet your brother-- I think Tyler would be funny asf

Lmao

Yeah I thought that as well tbh

i love that

Quinn Brewer and I love her for it

40 SECONDS?! ITS TOO LONG 40 SECONDS!!!

Quinn Brewer yeah and it’s the first video I’m watching of hers and she’s not playing with her hair the whole time or trying to pout her lips out on purposely accident. Just the content and I respect that. Thank you Eleanore you’re a breath of fresh air to me after watching everything of Danelle Hallan’s and John Lordan’s and trying to find someone else, almost gave up after getting like 5 minutes into a few other pols videos

Quinn Brewer I don’t want to like this comment because it has 666 likes 😂

Koala Rizo i’m sorry about that, i hope you’re okay

That’s not true... my husband said it a few times when we first started dating. I’ve said it a few times... but we’ve been married 28 years and he’s never laid a finger on me, nor has he punched anything when we’ve fought...I’m not dismissing what joe did.. by any means... or what your father did to your mother either... but not every time that’s what happens

Gus The Mouse most of the time yes. thats manipulative possessive behavior that leads to a cycle of abuse. im sorry, normal healthy people dont say that sort of shit to each other.

Koala Rizo Im sorry you had to go through tgat. I know what its like because my ex gf said she would kill herself and sent a photo with a knife to her neck when broke up with her. Before that she was really possessive and wouldn't let me have any friends. She hit me if I went near anyone she didn't want me near

She didn't do it tho

Me too

She was almost certainly brain dead, so it wasn't cruel or prolonged. Euthanasia isn't legal in Australia. Withdrawal of care continuing body function only is legal in cases of brain death and you have to have several medical opinions stating this first.

It sounds way worse than it is. Starving for a dying person is a completely different process than for a healthy person. Her body was already trying to shut down, taking the feeding tube out just let nature do the rest. Dying people stop accepting food in the end, it doesn’t hurt them.

It's actually a very humane way, in my opinion, to end someone's suffering if like her they have extensive brain damage & no higher brain activity than breathing. This happened to my great grandmother she had a massive stroke and afterwards couldn't do anything but lie there & breathe. She had very minimal brain activity & to the family it felt like she wasn't even still there like she'd passed on but her body was still there. So they took her off the feeding tube & usually they give patients lots of painkillers just in case any pain receptors are still active. It's alot better than letting the body live on for God knows how long & suffer until they finally die.

I agree. These people are cowards. If they decide to put someone to death (as if they had the right to) at least make it quick, instead of letting someone die of dehydration while they watch. Especially after she had survived for so long in those conditions, they made her go through it all over again. This is abhorrent.

It's what is don't is most hospice cases once they cant feed themselves or chew themselves they go to comfort care so meds rotated to keep them sedated or sleepy most don't live long when they get to that part of hospice. In her case she was likely brain dead and didn't feel any pain while in the trunk would of been more painful

Sara I can’t imagine what you thought when she said that Maria was inside her own boot ☠️

My dutch ass did too

My german ass thought boot as in booth... I guess that would've made sense?

Your Mom I can.

i thought boot as boat for a moment too XDD German language, am i right XDDD

Olivia Claire i was going to comment the exact same thing, i'm profoundly deaf in my left ear! glad to have found someone who agrees and is in my same boat lmao

I'm partially deaf in one ear and i agree. I find it so hard to hear anyone and eleanor is my safe haven.

I'm glad that all of you found someone that you can understand well :) PD: sorry for my bad english

Olivia Claire ikkkrrrr

@OliviaClaire this is why I only watch channels with #closedcaptions. I have ask #Tati to turn on #CC to her videos because I am terminally ill and my medication causes audio/skin/visual sensitivity . We have everything muted or darkened in our home or even when I in the hospital . When I am getting #chemo it is at its worse or pain medicine. (around the clock). I even have had seizures from loud constant noise or harsh lights. Closed caption helps so many people with such wide varying illnesses and I wish content creator's understood this. I often wonder if they just don't want people with broken sound issues to even enjoy their content either ? Anyways, I am so grateful for the creators who always enable closed caption, so us with difficulties can still enjoy! Thanks for taking the time to read!

Exactly, it’s manipulation and emotional abuse

Same

OH MY GOD SAME

Same!!

I had a blanket with the shoe and her grandchildren in it 😭😭

Nope I thought of the boot of a car 🚙

easy for someone without a disorder that is all about being attached and dependent on another person to say. so no thank you

lee minhyuk this just makes my toes curl 😒

lee minhyuk Let me get this straight. Just because she might not have a certain disorder, those with that disorder can’t follow her advice? Don’t use your disorder as an excuse. Seek therapy. And yes, you should never solely depend on another person. - from someone who personally has a disorder that is all about being attached and dependent on another person

Therapy doesn't magically fix everyone.

Some people, maybe. Nearly 10 years of therapy just made me worse. It was an endless cycle of feeling like a failure, not being able to be entirely truthful, my parents hating me for opening my mouth about abuse, my dad kicking off at the hospital, none of the psychologists/psychiatrists actually knowing anything about various disorders, constantly ending up locked in a room in A and E for up to 12 hours because they didn;t know what to do with me and couldn't find any of my mental health records expecting me to explain my life story to a new stranger each time when my self-reporting could have been flawed and I was too much of a mess to strong a sentence together, but worst of all is turning up 1 to 3 times a week stressed out because it's another thing to get to on time in your schedule only to feel their OBVIOUS disappointment when they basically just ask 'so are you better now' for me to have to either say no then feel like shit or lie just to be able to leave and feel like shit. No amount of talking or painful self awareness is going to undo years and years of repeated abuse and traumatic incidents from childhood. Unless they lobotomise me there is no blank slate or no effective 'coping mechanisms' for me. Fucking fed up of people telling me that a book of 'positive quotes' or doing any one of my dozens of hobbies is ever going to have a concrete effect and trust me, I don;t WANT to be like this. It's hard to admit you're unfixable. Maybe that shit helps for others but therapy, ESPECIALLY CBT is just people feeding you a bunch of naively optimistic bullshit (and I'm not even a nihilist, though I know some) that you know isn't true, practical or applicable. People basically instructing you to 'think x instead of y' and 'FEEL BETTER!' does not make you better. If therapists knew a chunk of philosophy and were more self aware they'd probably all be suicidal, too, especially if they were honest enough with themselves to identify the pathology in their more subjectively 'negative' personality traits. It's funny, the DSM uses a lot of subjective criteria to diagnose mental illness like 'deliberate manipulation'. If more people realised that everything they do to evoke a response from others is technically manipulative, it's not just 'bad sick people' that do it, they'd go into a tailspin.

Nah fam fuck that I would've put his shit on the front lawn and changed the locks. Fuck you I'm keeping the house and if he did any of that threatening shit I would've lit his stuff on fire

People can be really stupid...

He had psychopathy/ sociopathy which are colloquial terms for anti social personality disorder. They lack empathy and don't feel love. They are sex addicts and manipulate and lie to get whatever they want.

Well my dad did the same after having lived 30+ yrs in marriage with my mum, and they had 6 kids together so...... I'm honestly not that surprised. It's still shitty though and I hope her children are well😭

HOW can the other woman move her n her child to the SAME neighbourhood where his wife and kids live. That’s fucked uppp

@@catttthdmnhhj88 A woman that my uncle was having an affair with did the same thing. It's fucked up, but it happens, I guess.

Probably a combination of that and karma for using suicide as a manipulation tool, absolutely

Love this lol

YES! It’s what he gets for trying to manipulate someone with suicide

Well maybe in the instant he was dying...maybe atleast at that tym he felt the pain maria might have felt...

Samantha Melanie he committed suicide on the day of Maria's funeral

🤣🤣🤣🤣 omg yes, I will only now accept that as the cause of death.

Bump bump bump it up. I'd love to hear about this story.

@@cristinaj4274 I read that in the “Row row row your boat” melody-

@@KyeKenKen 😅👍

Ohhhhhh this sounds like a great case.

Kirstyn I know, it’s so unfair that she had to suffer and die while Tania gets to live her life after such a short time in prison

👻

She was left for dead in a trunk for four days, then starved to death on top of that. I don't like it.

@@jasminkellingreis3622 Tania was manipulated.

Kitty Valencia me too

Chloe s a m e

Chloe ...the trunk. Lol

Ahah I'm Portuguese and I would be confuse as you were if my husband didn't watch so many UK car videos in youtube -.-' I didn't know how to write it (had no ideia that was like boot boot lol) but when i read it i realized that was trunk.

😄 I know~i was like: 'how they fit somebody in a boot?!!' 👢👢👢

Jumper gets me too.. I'm like isn't that a sweatshirt??

I DIDNT REALISE I WAS DOING THAT TIL I RESD THIS SMH ALSO HER LASHES, shes so pretty and her makeup is so good smhsmh🤧

IM ALWAYS LOOKING AT HER EYEBROWSDBEJDJENJC

I keep looking at her eyeliner it’s so good!!

Her lipgloss for me. Her makeup is so flawless

Her lipgloss for me. Her makeup is so flawless

They are similar enough though, and the law states specifically that while they are not the same, they are similar enough to the point that to try to sentence her for murder would be double jeopardy, and I know this because my uncle's a lawyer and explained this to me.

The police were going to upgrade the charges to murder but I’m not exactly sure why they didn’t.

Yes it’s because of double jeopardy.

Well she tried to kill her but in teh end the doctors killed Maria not Tania. She attempted murder but DID NOT suceed. The Doctors did soooo..... she should not be retried for a not-crime that medical professionals committed. ( still kinda murder if you get what i mean).

@@sageyt4808 exactly, it would have been so different if it wasn't for the fact that when they found her she was still alive, or if the doctors had simply failed instead of giving up on her

Arayah Halani HAHAHAHAHA

also, as someone from the uk its nice to hear about our cases. its largely dominated by americans stuff

This is an Australian case

If you're interested i've been watching a show on Netflix called Encounters with Evil. It seems like it may have actually aired on British tv? There seems to be pauses where maybe a commercial was inserted. Anywhoo - each episode is theme base and most of them are UK based stories.

thanx--been thinking of getting Netflix, cuz HULU sucking right now...

Fred Heimersson Yess please cover that one! I live just by Kinnekulle, where the murder took place, and I remember being so shocked hearing about this. Never in my life would I’ve thought that something like that could happen where I lived. It was just so surreal and everyone was terrified.

Felicia Bruun that was the first murder I ever remember hearing about! First time I was truly terrified to like go outside cause engla was so close to my age

Felicia Bruun ladies i can't seem to find a link with English translation/subs im probably searching totally wrong😕 can anyone give a link?? we're in Ireland, we dont have many crazy cases here tbh, missing people even aren't a huge occurance for eg one local boy missing 20+ years is probably still the biggest missing case local police have(im sure there's obviously loads we don't know of the media here seem to only hype if gruesome) one of my best friends sister went missing this time last year, unfortunately she was found murdered in a weird place & again that's the biggest case atm unsolved so these fascinate me as horrified as they make me its so good to see ppl get closure i see my friend &she'll just never be the same💔💔💔

Just please don’t do the Kevin Hjamarsson case from Sweden. He was my family and no one in our family want a video like this of OUR family member

AYY IM FROM SWEDEN TOO and yes thats a good case to cover

called mental abuse karen

mental abuse. :(

Manipulation and abuse can do alot to person

Boot is what American call a trunk .

Same lol

It’s called a boot. (Trunk in the USA)

Lol same

I though it was a boot two.

Yeah

It does

yeah trunk in Australia to us means like "suitcase" or something around that

Ya I think idk I'm korean and American

Yes it does

Celsius ofc

Charlotte Victoria Beeden OMG MY FAVE STANS MY OTHER FAV OMGGGG YAY❤❤

Charlotte Victoria Beeden omg charlotte!!! I love your channel so much!!!!

couldn't have said it better myself!!

omg hi Charlotte 💕

I loveee your channel 💕

He was inside her head, it may if been her body committing the murder but it wasnt her head. If she had been in the right state of mind she would of never of done it so why should you be angry at her?

She definitely should be held accountable (and she has), but the intense manipulation he enacted on both of them cannot be understated. He emotional abused both of these women, and with his mistress already being so vulnerable, she only got further effected. What she did was terrible, but what he did was downright evil.

Shook Mercy pretty sure people can not kill other people just because of their husband

She wasn’t a psycho, she never would of done it if weren’t for joe. Psychopaths are always doubted by society, that’s why there are murders everywhere. She did it because she thought it was love.

I agree, she was clearly obsessed with this guy and she DID commit the crime with her bare hands. People that can get to the point of murdering someone under manipulation are also a danger to society.

at least she didn't try to pretend that she didn't do it, and even plead guilty for (at the time of her trial) nearly killing Maria i have to wonder, if Maria had survived, would she have forgiven her?

true

Agreed. Here we have the victim, a mother, an innocent person being killed and her killer gets set free after only 8 yrs. 20 would be justice

People can’t pronounce Melbourne? It’s so easy to pronounce

Is it pronounced “Mell-born”? That’s how I say it, as an American

@@sleepydevilz Australians say Mel-Bin

@@jasminerielly1220 I'm American, and I say Mel-Burn, but if I had an Aussie accent, I'd would come out "Mel-bin". When people say "mel-born" I go nuts.

There’s people that say “Mel-ber-nie” and “Mel-born” but as an American I say “Mel-bin” but I don’t know which one is correct-

Kate Ruddock omg same even though I’m Irish ☘️

My ass thought the same thing,lol im from canada.

Kate Ruddock I thought that and I’m from the UK lol

Kate Ruddock me, an australian: *also thought she meant a shoe*

Kate Ruddock My English ass thought that too.. 😩😅

I see you everywhere

Stop commenting it’s really annoying

@@lgotatanfromjimmycoco4443 jesus Christ calm down 😂

Nah u silly sket

@@lgotatanfromjimmycoco4443 Damn why u so salty, chill!!

Hmmm 👻

He was the brains behind the murder

me too, i broke up with him in february after two years (im 17)

I did too for 13 years. Luckily a wonderful man came along to teach me how to have a healthy relationship and showed me i deserved to be treated like a queen! He is so amazing abd im so blessed

@@loriwagner7900 wow I'm so glad you got out of that after so long! And that you're being treated right now

I actually feel bad for Maria but at the same time she pisses me off that she went through with that mans plan. That should of been the sign to leave. I’ve been through losing my husband and being in a relationship with a married man and I thought it was what I deserved but after time I got tired and ended it because it’s not fair to anyone, men like that know how to manipulate you to stay, screw that . Stay strong ladies your better of single!

Hillary Bright I was literally looking for someone to comment this! I know broken people.... and they would never in a million years even consider committing murder if they were told to.

I think you’re underestimating the power of abusive boyfriends

Corey Holt my best friend just got out of an extremely abusive relationship. I feel like I have a pretty decent idea

Hillary Bright exacly

Corey Holt I’ve been in a couple of abusive relationships, would I still have murdered for them? No. It doesn’t matter how scared you are, if you’re a normal person you don’t commit murders.

Oop I’m dating someone with a J name ;w;

I have not heard that saying..

@@annapandalee4915 same...

Like for the show YOU. Lmao don’t trust joes

For real! guys with a name that starts with J are so sleazy like no. No. Nooooooooooo

frrr

How old are you now? Did you get a therapist to help you move on?

?

Hughes eh? 😂❤️x

Finally someone who thinks about Tania the same way I do. She didn't deserve a happy end.

In my teens I had girlfriends I swore "I'd do anything" for, but some asked me to beat up other guys at times. Now I had been in fights before, but it's quite different when someone tries to coerce you, to harm someone who had done nothing to you, rather than a spur of the moment thing. For someone to go as far as planning this, and knowing what was gonna happen right up till the moment it did, there has to be something much darker there. So yeah I agree, she deserved to rot.

I hate all the people that want to give her a pass just cause she was manipulated by Joe. they're both awful. As for Tania specifically: "Once you've crossed the line, I stopped caring how you got there."

Exactly. There’s a difference between having low self-esteem and being a murderer

You mean English

irish, scottish and welsh people are all british 😂, the last one you’re thinking of is english lol

Pickingwilddaisies well they didn’t want her to suffer anymore than she already had but at least she’s in a better place 😔

Starved to death??? Was she tortured as well

@@theradiantreddiamond2930 Maria had suffered severe brain damage and was never going to recover. She never regained consciousness and would have lead life in a vegetative state. This decision would not have been made easily by her family or the medical team caring for her.

That's what I thought too. Her spirit was in that garage and was like "wanne kill yourself for real this time. Let me help you WITH THAT BITCH!!!"

lmao samee 😭

thanks for making me lol from a Brit. Never occurred to me that could sound funny

Boot =trunk .

As an Aussie. I took it as a literal boot too, not the car trunk

I had no idea other countries called them trunks, we have basically changed half the English language haha

same lol!

I'm portuguese and got really really confused

Meanwhile in Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa, Hong Kong and a lot of Canada...

Quite a few of the replies on similar comments are to the effect of "I'm British/German/Hungarian and I also thought it was a shoe 😄" So it's not just Americans and Canadians lol

Yeah I'm British and I thought that too 😂

Holy shit, I forgot about this, I remember watching it on my tv all the time when I was young

who tf cares about puerte rico. thats just a normal day at the shit hole of crimes

Who is the “She” you mentioned in the last paragraph, kinda confused lol

coconut milk the mum, i think

Caitlin c 👍🏾 thx

Thanks

thank you

My depressed mind read that differently.

It's a year later, but, thank you very much! I hope you have a nice day also!

It's a year later but I hope you have a great day! ❤️

what about the Elizabeth Fritzl case??

i’m native english but i can speak spanish too! i’d love to help!

That sounds really cool ☺

Meaningfuls I liked this comment and I was reading it looked at you profile pic and just cringed so hard

@@crushy_3168 ughhhhhh oof me too it makes my fingers hurt

GABBADABBA ikr!

@Patrick McCormack is that the one where they stuffed a girl in a container of concrete? Crazy shit man

I speak Japanese so id be hapoy to translate stories for anyone but at tge same time theres not many REAL crimes that r interesting in japan because its a very crime free country for various reasons

Tazhie Nunurbusinezz so true! My husband made me not dependent on him. Praise God he did. He passed away 2 years ago.

Tazhie Nunurbusinezz well said! 👍👊💪

Thank you for sharing what I can only imagine was the foundation for your long and healthy marriage. I am currently in a marriage where I have a hard working husband who is TRYING to me make independent and I just don't like it. I don't know why. I grew up in a household where both parents worked and were rarely home so it was me and my 3 other siblings. I'm the youngest and I know this has something to do with my dependence, but I don't want it to be an excuse.

Well put. One thing my bio-mother always said, " Never Depend On A Man". and i haven't. While watching this, i (again*) thought, "omg. so glad i'm not married". (no offense to marriage....)

Kimberly Holt I hear you. Mine was a year & 3 months. We were together 16 years. The day of the accident I still, after all that time, got a text saying how much he loved me & how much he missed me. I replied with the same. He picked me flowers about a week before & wrote 1 of his love notes about 3 weeks before. I knew just how much I was loved & so did he. His mother was so dependent on his father that when his father molested his little sister & his sister actually told their mother, she had to pretend not to believe his little sister in order to not see herself as a monster for staying. That is why when he met me, he fell like a ton of bricks. After 2 weeks, he told his sister that he had found the 1 & asked her how long he had to wait to propose. She wisely told him a year. I liked him very much but at 2 weeks, there was no way I wouldn't have been freaking out. He told me once that with his other relationships he felt more like a father than a boyfriend a lot of times & he got creeped out when that happened. There may be guys who are insecure enough to want that but those guys aren't who I'd ever want for my girls anyway. Have a great day!

Rachel Clark same I thought it was a shoe boot😂

Ikr, how'd she fit?!