The Master Meets Missy | World Enough and Time

The Master Meets Missy | World Enough and Time | Doctor Who

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The Master, Missy and a Mondasian Cyberman. The Doctor comes face-to-face with some rather familiar faces from his past. But where is Bill Potts? Subscribe: bit.ly/SubscribeToDoctorWho
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Taken from Doctor Who: Series 10, Episode Eleven "World Enough and Time"
WORLD ENOUGH AND TIME
Friendship drives the Doctor into the rashest decision of his life. Trapped on a giant spaceship, caught in the event horizon of a black hole, he witnesses the death of someone he is pledged to protect. Is there any way he can redeem his mistake? Are events already out of control? For once, time is the Time Lord’s enemy…
Written by Steven Moffat
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@robland3253 Жыл бұрын

This “Saxon” is much saner then the one 10 encountered, and that makes him more dangerous , plus, he has a goatee, so you know he is more evil

@darksteal568 Жыл бұрын

Definitely not saner. Just more calculating and Ruthless with his decisions

@avremirine8986 Жыл бұрын

I love the goatee! A nice callback to Rodger Delgado and Anthony Ainley.

@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын

I have a goatee, and I can confirm it does increase our evil level significantly. Each centimeter per whisker adds a percent.

@KillerMeme Жыл бұрын

Probably cos by this point the drumming has stopped

@crimsondynamo615 9 ай бұрын

Goatees are a staple Master trait.

@IamConnorMacLeod 6 жыл бұрын

Man, Capaldi's reaction to the Simm Master is understated gold. He reacts exactly the way Ten would've reacted, too.

@MrDylancutter 6 жыл бұрын

+Mr Jones So sick of people thinking Ten is a wimp because he didn't want to die. Try putting yourself in his shoes in that position. Also, why reply to a comment praising great acting/characters with a negative statement? What's the point?

@MrDylancutter 6 жыл бұрын

You mean it's wimpy that he was upset at losing someone he was in love with, losing his entire species and planet, and then finding out he's going to die? Men are judged enough for showing their emotions without your dated, ugly views in the picture. The Tenth Doctor actually had a capacity for emotions, something you clearly lack. And with that last statement you lost my interest in even having a civilised conversation with you, not that I think that's possible anyway. Goodbye.

@LiamCatterson 6 жыл бұрын

I am guessing Eight is a wimp too considering he felt burdened with losing Lucie Miller. I'm guessing Eleven in a wimp because he retired after losing Amy and Rory. Fact is, the Doctor values his companions. He loves them so much and he's not going to shrug off a companion's demise like it's nothing, especially if they are close, like Ten and Rose were. And he wasn't crying about regeneration, he was upset with the fact he was nearing what he and Eleven believed the total end to the Doctor on Trenzalore. That's why Ten said "I don't want to go" on Day of the Doctor.

@mayotango1317 6 жыл бұрын

Dylan C Because the real Doctors face the regeneration with dignity.

@TheHobatron 6 жыл бұрын

Mayo Tango131 Don't give me this "real Doctors" bollocks. They're all the Doctor, they're all unique. Ten wore his emotions on his sleeve more than any other and perhaps by this point he was just sick of constantly changing when he didn't want to. Don't forget, with the benefit of hindsight we now know he was actually about to regenerate into what he would've thought was his final body before permanent death. So of course he'd be upset about that.

@rachelcookie321 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, Bill getting turned into a cyberman was one of the most distressing moments in Doctor who for me. Lots of companions die but the fact that Bill waited patiently for the doctor as she slowly got turned into a cyberman was so much worse. I felt so distressed when they revealed she was a cyberman. It just felt so emotional and real, it was so upsetting and scary.

@Godzillakingofkaiju1 11 ай бұрын

Kinda reminds me of what happened to Adric.

@jameswalker199 10 ай бұрын

Pain() Pain() Pain() Pain() Kill(me) Kill(me) That particular scene will haunt me for a long time

@galiam5043 5 ай бұрын

@@jameswalker199what was that from

@sanatonchandradey8646 4 ай бұрын

@@galiam5043 earlier in the episode. other cybermen said it.

@galiam5043 4 ай бұрын

@@sanatonchandradey8646 thx

@longfang_1764 4 жыл бұрын

Is it me, or are Mondasian Cybermen creepier than the average Cybermen

@cavik977 3 жыл бұрын

It's not just you. The average Cybermen are a fully metallic shell that you could be forgiven for mistaking for generic robots. The Mondasian ones, on the other hand, are specifically designed to look like humans whose bodies have been heavily altered by technological implants. Much more body horror that way.

@GiratinaofFury 3 жыл бұрын

It's because their back story is so very tragic.

@tetsujin_144 3 жыл бұрын

For me personally I think this story did a lot to sell the Mondas Cybermen with the whole body horror angle. Prior to that I would have considered them the goofiest of the Cybermen.

@theprogram863 3 жыл бұрын

This is the best of what made Moffat a great showrunner. He had his weaknesses, but when he was on, he was ON. He took embarrassing production values of early Doctor Who and turned it on its head. The Mondasian cybermen were a back-to-basics approach that managed to instantly become the scariest and coolest version. That took skilled writing, imagination, a thorough understanding of Doctor Who continuity/canon, and good planning.

@geezerbill 3 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of it depends on which incarnation of the Cybermen you first watched.

@TheSmart-CasualGamer Жыл бұрын

I know other people have mentioned it, but when Capaldi turns around to see Simm, his facial expression is near IDENTICAL to the faces Tennant used to have in scenarios like this. Absolutely stellar actors, all of them.

@InsanityVirus Жыл бұрын

The man was an avid Whovian and was even a minor character in 10's run, I would not be surprised if he took a page or two from Tennant's run-ins with the Master lmao

@HarduntheRanger Жыл бұрын

That moment is so brilliantly executed. Simm speaks, Capaldi does his slow shocked turn, and when he makes eye contact we cut to Simm who now smiles. Seeing the Doctor so shocked was exactly what he wanted, and he is thoroughly enjoying it.

@kendrixhavlik3051 5 ай бұрын

Stellar

@invinciblereason1618 5 жыл бұрын

This is quite possibly the darkest moment in the entire series, old and new. You can kill people, you can torture people, you can destroy entire star systems but no amount of destruction will ever be as horrific as seeing someone so close to you having their humanity stripped from them and becoming a cold, emotionless machine. This represents the sheer horror of the cybermen and why they are quite possibly the most disturbing enemy in doctor who. The prospect of having your emotions removed and turned into something completely different seems more scary to me than death itself.

@SoyYo-px1kd 2 жыл бұрын

ThiscommentisGOLD

@alecbormia4523 2 жыл бұрын

This is also why I really like their origin episode in New Who. The cybermen were a result of humanity chasing technology to such a degree that they were no longer human. The cyber men were simply a result of one man trying to live forever, and losing his humanity in the process.

@asvarien 2 жыл бұрын

Cybermen are pretty much humanoid Daleks. They're the same on the inside, biological organisms stripped of their emotions and made into killing machines. The original Daleks, the Kaleds even look like humans.

@FunniMillie 2 жыл бұрын

@@asvarien except Daleks still have emotions such as Anger and Hatred, when Cybermen are absolutely emotionless

@Tommyboi01 2 жыл бұрын

@@alecbormia4523 exactly, and they tried to take humanity with them and even their creator went into the upgrade screaming

@TheAdmiral117 6 жыл бұрын

*When John Simm came back* Audience: WE. WAITED. FOR. YOUUUU.

@RandomYTTroller 6 жыл бұрын

yaaaassss. i'm only here for him

@ChristopherCraven 5 жыл бұрын

You seen him in life on Mars? Amazing.

@uscman 5 жыл бұрын

It's kind of sad seeing him without Tennant as The Doctor

@CMOT101 5 жыл бұрын

Nah. Worst Master ever.

@AvengerBB1 5 жыл бұрын

@@uscman Yeah. The way John and David played off of each other was brilliant. They truly felt like mirror opposites.

@reallouisdickson 4 жыл бұрын

Capaldi's acting a 2:32 is phenomenal. Like you can just see he's trying so hard to withhold tears - just knowing where this is going, dreading the worst. Like he is such a phenomenal actor.

@raven4k998 3 жыл бұрын

I waited for you

@theonionsystem7779 3 жыл бұрын

@@shaunhayes3072 you can see it in his eyes and his reaction

@Mask0fFate 6 жыл бұрын

I know people complain about how this wasn’t kept a secret... Except I missed the leak. As such, this reveal really hit me. Especially with both Masters in the same room. I mean, we’ve seen plenty of Multi-Doctor stories, but to have a story with multiple Masters was just a great payoff.

@manofmercy1500 5 жыл бұрын

True. Though really it wasn't actually a leak that revealed this return, but rather a tiny scene from an official trailer for the series right at the start.

@gamelikers 5 жыл бұрын

I didnt see it either! When the leak came out i was less into doctor who but then my dad and i caught up and this reveal was such an "oh shit" moment for us!

@crimsondynamo615 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if in another universe, we could have had an amazing story where Delgado and Ainley Master’s worked together

@Pulsarnix 4 жыл бұрын

@@gamelikers I didn't know either, so it was just so awesome for me and I broke into a big grin when I saw this scene

@pazuzu66613 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I envy you the genuine surprise.

@Kibouo 3 жыл бұрын

2:57 the way he reacts to Bill being a cyber man is heart breaking, almost like a parent staring in disbelief at their child who has been horribly injured

@SamuelBlack84 Жыл бұрын

"Die..me. Die..me"

@Blitzo8390 5 жыл бұрын

I love John Simm’s look. The goatee, the black uniform and his fondness of disguises could be a tribute to the original Master Roger Delgado

@robvegas9354 3 жыл бұрын

i had no idea that was John Simm the whole time, i wasn't aware of the casting either when this aired, so bang = mind blown with that reveal... crazy episode!!!

@lanternmatt2002 3 жыл бұрын

i think that's what they were trying to go for, since Twice upon a Time had David Bradley resembling the first Doctor

@Eldoradoll7 3 жыл бұрын

Delgado and Ainely will always be the OG masters.

@Blitzo8390 3 жыл бұрын

Erwin Rommel Agreed

@filthycasual8187 3 жыл бұрын

@@lanternmatt2002 Not just resembling. He was specifically cast as the First Doctor. Simm was just a tribute to the Classic Masters in this episode though.

@andregordon2599 4 жыл бұрын

3:40 Yoooo that reprise of the "1234" drum beat in the soundtrack, great call back!

@boiledkettles6066 4 жыл бұрын

Andre Gordon Ohh it’s so good

@jessevazquez8984 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice that the first time . wow it totally adds to it

@dilara9367 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I noticed that too

@I.T.P 3 жыл бұрын

It also plays when he first reveals himself

@zozophonchkey5300 3 жыл бұрын

And it gets faster! Like- wow

@jojibot9193 6 жыл бұрын

“I would never be so self-destructive.” >proceeds to kill Missy 1 episode later

@HazarTulum 6 жыл бұрын

Happens all the time when the Master meets himself

@klein2042 5 жыл бұрын

I think Missy would’ve remembered shooting herself in the future so from that point on it’s now an alternate version of the Master

@themoviemaker29 5 жыл бұрын

Barrel Rider no the master would have no recollection of shooting her

@TheCrippledEgg 5 жыл бұрын

All the Master does is get killed, whether it be getting crushed to death, incinerated, shot or stabbing himself in the back.

@coachlombardi9657 5 жыл бұрын

300th thumbs up and Spoilers.

@CyberController- Жыл бұрын

You can tell Murray Gold was waiting to bring back the drums

@Noobie2k7 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't make any sense since the drums were only in his head because of Rassilon and Rassilon at this point was dead with that flan foiled, sio the drums would have stopped.

@CyberController- Жыл бұрын

@@Noobie2k7 I meant the musical theme, not the plot point

@legothoron1 3 ай бұрын

"oh how i've missed them"

@Godzillakingofkaiju1 4 жыл бұрын

I like how they brought back the Master's penchant for disguising himself.

@porschefoster999 4 жыл бұрын

I don't like the master. Thought he was good on life on Mars but the master annoys me lol

@EditedAF987 4 жыл бұрын

Porsche Foster are you talking about the Master overall or just the John Simm incarnation

@porschefoster999 4 жыл бұрын

I like Missy. I'm not fond of the latest master. John Simm I don't know why he annoys me. Maybe I'll change my mind after watching it again.

@EditedAF987 4 жыл бұрын

Porsche Foster you’d probably enjoy the others a lot more

@piercelindenberg8156 3 жыл бұрын

plus his goatee from his original incarnation. Plus, the current Master is doing tissue compression again, that's a classic as well.

@KayleighNatasha 5 жыл бұрын

This version of the Cybermen were a lot more scarier than today's version

@PhilipAlexanderHassialis 4 жыл бұрын

Yeap because it doesn't conceal their origin, it's just cloth and benath it a face of a living person, not a robot that you have to pry its helmet off to perhaps see the organic material. This is the version closer to what the average person identifies as another person, hence far more terrifying.

@julianaylor4351 4 жыл бұрын

The Eighties Cybermen had scarcely deep voices and were utterly ruthlessly violent.

@josha3271 4 жыл бұрын

As a kid a found the Cybus ones from parallel Earth scary. But I agree these Mondas ones are creepy in a horror film kind of way.

@kofrixguia995 4 жыл бұрын

Ya, because its a emotionless human body trap in some body that has no empathy.... And they act/move a bit more human, not just stomping Which makes it scarier

@redjirachi1 4 жыл бұрын

The Daleks are scary because they embody a nightmare from our past The Cybermen are scary because they embody a nightmare from our future

@looe9195 6 жыл бұрын

2:30 Harriet Jones, former prime minister!

@davrossaxon6989 6 жыл бұрын

"hello Missy let me introduce myself, Harriet Jones!" *Missy* : "yes i know who you are"

@wrecklessrex7245 6 жыл бұрын

A guy on KZfaq edited this clip with Harriet Jones' face on the Masters, it was soo funny

@davrossaxon6989 6 жыл бұрын

what's the title of the video?

@wrecklessrex7245 6 жыл бұрын

Timey Wimey Whovian its been deleted for no reason but the channel is called Joe Vevers and he uploads hilarious edits of scenes

@Winchent 6 жыл бұрын

It's still there dude, just look up Genemissy of the Cybillmen

@Elnont 5 жыл бұрын

Missy’s face when she first realises that it’s the master is so brilliant, it’s almost as though she’s afraid.

@fordz3781 Жыл бұрын

Well the Master was a lot more extreme than she was.

@Noobie2k7 Жыл бұрын

@@fordz3781 Plus I think it's also her remembering this is where she dies. Since she'd now be able to remember that this is where she kills herself.

@scionofdorn9101 Жыл бұрын

Well, she knew how brutal she was when she was younger, after all.

@farscape1714 Жыл бұрын

@@scionofdorn9101 He was younger HE

@JulioVonGhoulio 7 ай бұрын

@@farscape1714 Uh... Missy is a chick, so it would be when she was younger.

@LiamCatterson 6 жыл бұрын

Also, got to add this. I love the little head movements John Simm reacts to when Bill gives off those chilling four words. I thought it was a really great touch to his character.

@darthraver 6 жыл бұрын

I never noticed Thank You

@ThemeParkChomp 5 жыл бұрын

Liam Catterson You mean, acting? It was hardly that subtle or suggestive, just looks like he’s happy to be there and hasnt really been given much direction by the production team. Doctor Who’s recent seasons have been very ‘just shoot whatever, we’ll slap loads of overzealous music over it later to make it all fit’

@TheKiwiKingdom 6 жыл бұрын

It is so dark knowing that bill is one of the first cybermen...

@erez87xp 5 жыл бұрын

The First

@MaccamatBux 5 жыл бұрын

@@erez87xp One of the first. This group of Cybermen is different from the Cybermen appearing in The Tenth Planet.

@harrysavva9630 5 жыл бұрын

*Cybermen

@biipboop9003 5 жыл бұрын

Why dont he have some cleaning fluid or gold xD

@thunberbolttwo3953 5 жыл бұрын

Not really.Since Bill was the worst companion ever.Boring as hell.

@kunaal_1928 6 жыл бұрын

Think how amazing the reveal would have been if it hadn’t been completely ruined before the season even started

@trueblueblack47- 6 жыл бұрын

Kunaal Gupta exactly. Being honest I found the episode slow because of it being ruined there wasn't the major shock to come at the end. Now if it hadn't been ruined then it would've paid off massively.

@AksentNethariaFilm 6 жыл бұрын

Honestly. It would have blown my mind. I seriously hope they do a bit better with keeping spoilers under wraps for S11.

@thetwelfthdoctor9892 6 жыл бұрын

I am lucky; I didn't see the spoilers u.u my jaw dropped on the floor during this scene.

@TheCrippledEgg 6 жыл бұрын

They could have at least not included him in the teaser for The Pilot so new viewers binge-watching wouldn't be spoiled either.

@bri_____ 6 жыл бұрын

Yea I think Dr who fans are so crazy that they would've spotted John sim on the shoot

@velvetygenius 6 жыл бұрын

Love the master drumbeat music at the end

@ladyselin35 6 жыл бұрын

Here comes the drums!

@cherrylion5076 5 жыл бұрын

It's back. The Melody of Insanity. The Rhythm of Madness. The Sound of Drums has finally returned.

@androo6473 5 жыл бұрын

Kshitij Srivastava One-two-three-four-one-two-three-four-one-two-three-four-one-two-three-four! Where’s David Tennant when u need him!

@isaacwoodward9611 5 жыл бұрын

Kshitij Srivastava and that is why Murray gold is a god

@gamelikers 5 жыл бұрын

You can also hear an electronic rendition of it when the master reveals himself to himself (missy)

@jcofthecorn745 4 жыл бұрын

So I haven't watched Doctor who in years. But this clip came up, and I got to say, for some reason the Mondasian Cyberman seems a lot more unsettling than the other modern series cybermen.

@auberginemanproductions1608 3 жыл бұрын

It's closer to us. This is something that could feasibly happen in the next 100 to 200 years.

@fabesey2016 2 жыл бұрын

This episode is the best cybermen story in the modern series, hands down. This clip alone does not do it justice, its genuinely disturbing, Moffat's on absolute top form with it.

@poopfromcat7920 2 жыл бұрын

That, “I waited for you” followed by the tear gets me everytime 😭

@Drobium77 5 ай бұрын

the tear is the tear you see on the cybermen's logos and on their eyes as cybermen. so Bill was the reason for that tear

@scifiwriter1006 6 жыл бұрын

That scene still gives me goosebumps!

@emoolia_cream1767 6 жыл бұрын

Ahah! Agree!

@adambennet8398 5 жыл бұрын

it's very mediocre compared to Who running between series 1-4. It's lost it's edge and tried to be what it used to be (when it failed and had to be axed) since then... Sad but true. Scenes like this don't really give me any sort of goosebumps because it's a little too obvious it is coming because the rest of the story line is so slow and mundane... Granted at times there's a little ingenuity in there but it is few and far between. That's why I feel Moffat is a much better one off writer than Russel T. Davies (RTD). RTD was much better at casually slipping in little easter eggs into 100MPH episodes so that you wouldn't always pick up on them! One such example was the Harold Saxon series 3 ending episodes. Hence why the plot twists were not as predictable and actually gave you goosebumps come towards the end of a series... Just my opinion but ah well I suppose you can't please everyone!

@generalvladimir4257 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@caleb7551 3 жыл бұрын

@@adambennet8398 why would you bring negativity into a comment praising the episode?

@adambennet8398 3 жыл бұрын

@@caleb7551 because I’m allowed to have an opinion.

@CinemaBiohazard 5 жыл бұрын

I love this cliffhanger. Two Masters, Bill is a Cybermen, and the Doctor realizes just what he did. It's the perfect way to go into Capaldi's last few episodes.

@Sen-Shade 6 жыл бұрын

Hands down the best thing about this episode was just how creepy it was. Bill walking into the room with the patients, still human underneath, and then the fact that she becomes one herself was brilliant. There was no way to reverse it, that was her fate. I don't think I'd been this creeped out by an episode since "The Waters of Mars", and I was only 13 then, 20 watching this episode. Moffat and Capaldi definitely went out on a high note.

@SheldonAdama17 6 жыл бұрын

2:25 Master of disguise! I knew John Simm was returning but I was completely fooled right up to that point. So I still got a little bit of the surprise!

@Tumbleflop 5 жыл бұрын

"Do you still like disguises? Of course, they are rather necessary when you happen to be... someone's... former Prime Minister..." *"HARRIET JONES, FORMER PRIME MINISTER"*

@Jarock316 5 жыл бұрын

@@Tumbleflop "Yes, we know who you are."

@XHobbiesPrime 4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I spent the entire episode watching him and waiting for The Master to show up. :D

@Shanethefilmmaker 4 жыл бұрын

I never watched the ads prior to this so I was very shocked he returned. Shocked I tells you.

@Seanta7 4 жыл бұрын

Same the reveal was still amazing

@lordcydonia4924 3 жыл бұрын

Still the best ending to any New Who episode to date. Moffat was the King of the cliffhanger.

@lordcydonia4924 3 жыл бұрын

I know I'm commenting but it's perfect. The death of a companion. 2 Masters. Cybermben and the Doctor desperate and lost! So good!

@MrLethalShots Жыл бұрын

He was indeed awesome at setting them up. He didn't always deliver when it came to resolving them 😅

@Edditaur Жыл бұрын

He did pretty well here I think, the lower overall stakes of this finale helped I'd say - no big intergalactic scale conflicts, just the Doctor fighting to save a small group of children. Beautifully told and executed.

@ashvinsatheesan4196 6 жыл бұрын

These two had unbelievable on screen chemistry together!

@tcborganisation8811 6 жыл бұрын

nice comment

@anjawendland5303 5 жыл бұрын

True

@randomnessrules4971 4 жыл бұрын

What two? There's only one.

@LiamCatterson 6 жыл бұрын

This was one of the best closing moments to Doctor Who in my opinion. Even knowing the Master would return, it was done in spectacular fashion. And CyberBill broke my heart... _I waited for you_ (And even though I thought it would be so crazy and interesting to have a companion turn into a Cyberman, *THIS* is why you shouldn't say things you'll regret people)

@Kryojenix 6 жыл бұрын

The time dilation within the floors of a giant colony ship was one of the most fantastic sci-fi concepts they've implemented in ages!

@grandkhan9261 5 жыл бұрын

Agree, the best closing moment after the finale of Utopia for me

@ThemeParkChomp 5 жыл бұрын

Liam Catterson I didnt think it was as spectacular as it could have been at all. The whole episode certainly could have been riveting. As usual with recent Doctor Who and Sherlock series, it’s been ‘tell, not show’. Characters standing talking in a room with very average dialogue (“Id call it a genesis.. the genesis of the cybermen” obviously trying too hard to make fans go crazy), master reveal is the same as all the other Master reveals, and loads of music slapped on later to make it feel more exciting than what’s actually playing out. The drama of the scene is rushed

@georgesmith4476 5 жыл бұрын

Only Moffat could have dreamt something like that up....his successor has big shoes to fill. His 4 episodes were by far the best episodes of this season.

@TheJadedJames 5 жыл бұрын

I was so sucked into this episode, I'd actually forgotten that John Simm was supposed to appear at some point. This ending totally floored me

@Boskov01 3 жыл бұрын

Man, the Mondasian Cybermen are scarier than their more silver-plated counterparts. Something about those medical masks and those gloves that just...*shudders* If they're going for scarier Cyberman, the Mondasian ones win.

@Slopmaster 3 жыл бұрын

And the bandages, that always makes me queasy 😳

@ospreyphil8995 4 жыл бұрын

I will never get over the way the Master mockingly says “Doctor!”

@nzrockboi 4 жыл бұрын

Steven's writing is so damn good OMG he just squeezes every last second peeling back every layer of the full situation with heavy emotional realisations on top I just get so gobsmacked

@Darth_Wallace Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the attention to detail with the music because of John Simm's return you can hear the 1234 at the end

@KrillLiberator 3 жыл бұрын

The show hitting an absolute dizzying high here: The gut-wrenching horror of the Cyberman's reveal, followed by the macabre humour of the two Masters. We are literally appalled at what has happened to poor Bill, and then seconds later we're LOLing at "Give us a kiss". And not even feeling bad about the mood swing.

@skenksnfmela2749 6 жыл бұрын

This combined with the reveal of the Mondasian Cyberman and the fact it was Bill would have been the most shocking moment in years if it was kept secret, probably of the entire modern series. The problem is they did manage to keep it a secret for the most part but clearly didn’t have the confidence for the series beforehand so put Simm in the series 10 trailer, and then publicly announced his return! Complete marketing balls up, hopefully under Chibnall this sort of thing doesn’t happen again.

@laraoswaldd 6 жыл бұрын

They only announced it because it was leaked before, actually.

@skenksnfmela2749 6 жыл бұрын

Eleanor Emerson Leaked by the mirror and the sun because they put it in the trailer at the press screening, asking people to “look away when the spoiler arrives on screen”. They managed to avoid anyone knowing for months beforehand and then they put it in a trailer- as if the people who work in tabloid news are simply going to look away. Then to officially announce it is even worse. It’s peoples choice if they want to believe a tabloid like the mirror but if you officially confirm it then it’s completely ruined.

@colmomahony5272 6 жыл бұрын

i didnt know when i watched the episode and now im not really gonna check dr who twitter

@stevecaine207 6 жыл бұрын

numpteez he wasn’t though, his character was photographed on set but no one actually clicked it was John Simm until after the confirmation of his return. It made sense marketing-wise, they wanted to bring back some viewers, but then they compromised on this big reveal which the episode built up to! So it was redundant, and a real shame.

@TheTonie4 6 жыл бұрын

I don't follow any of the tabloids or alternate sources other than the official Doctor Who pages so I would have been unspoilt if they didn't announce it.

@SylviaLupien 6 жыл бұрын

The best reveal ever! Love the two Masters together!

@williamnorton9547 6 жыл бұрын

Spencer C The Master, Davros and Boba Fett are all in the very small group of men who know not the meaning of the word 'dead'. Seeing as how there's big trouble brewing whenever the Doctor meets himself, I shudder to think what it means when the same happens to the Master.

@robadams8057 6 жыл бұрын

"You met the ex."

@robadams8057 6 жыл бұрын

Any youngsters here recognize the Cloister Bell?

@prof.evilpictures8696 6 жыл бұрын

The Sarcastic Ravenclaw so are you being sarcastic....

@danielwilliamson6180 5 жыл бұрын

I was stunned. The Master created them.

@Timmzy27 3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea of the spoiled reveal of Simm’s Master returning, this was such a well executed surprise for me. The split second you realise it’s him when he goes back to his regular voice before taking off the he mask made the hair on my neck stand right on up.

@TheClarksonFan 3 жыл бұрын

I used to think that the cliffhanger at the end of The Army of Ghosts couldn’t be topped, but this haunting and poignant one just utterly usurped it in every respect - an epic reveal of John Simm’s Master combined with the unabashed horror of what the Mondasian Cybermen are.

@seangrand3885 6 жыл бұрын

The music is absolutely incredible!! Fits this scene so perfectly!

@thelisapisa 6 жыл бұрын

That was an amazing plot twist !

@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 6 жыл бұрын

ESC Lisa Germany, would've been even better if we didn't know he was returning.

@BruhJoshHill 6 жыл бұрын

To be honest it was kinda ruined when we saw him in the Season 10 teaser at the end of The Pilot.

@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 6 жыл бұрын

Josh Hill, he was announced even before then.

@BruhJoshHill 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I remember seeing a post about it on Twitter.

@thetwelfthdoctor9892 6 жыл бұрын

that's something I don't understand about people: nobody wants spoilers about a tv series but everytime they find a spoiler, they leak it immediately through internet or through a magazine... and then they complain, saying that what happen on the show would have been better if it was not leaked... Anyway, a couple of magazine leaked John Simm's return, using some photos of him, capaldi and gomez on the set while filming. Since the news was already leaked, bbc made it official with the trailer... people must blame those magazine, not bbc.

@malphasblackwing420 Жыл бұрын

2:57 The way he says “Bill?” is heartbreaking 💔

@georgelinford5576 4 жыл бұрын

In my opinion this will always be the most chilling moment in all of NuWho. Even though I knew about both the Master's return and the Mondasian Cybermen (and also suspected that the Cyberman was Bill), this will forever send chills down my spine more than any other moment. The only one I can think of that can compete is the climax of Midnight.

@Jackson-ub1uv 4 жыл бұрын

0:40 That lighting is superb

@elliotbutler9691 4 жыл бұрын

Love how John Simm came back, if that never got spoiled it would of been one of the biggest reveals in Doctor who history

@ikewastaken Жыл бұрын

I’m glad I was lucky enough to watch this episode nearly 10 years after I first finished watching the show, to show up without watching any of the next episode credits to see this masterpiece of a twist blind

@Azoth86730 5 жыл бұрын

No matter what people say, this was one of the best episodes.

@jooie444 5 жыл бұрын

With one of the best Doctors.

@jonathancampbell5231 5 жыл бұрын

Ruined only by the episode after it

@michaeltaylor4375 3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathancampbell5231 Come on though....Doctor falls took the cybermen seriously, and they never got 'stopped'. its still better than s8 finale or closing time though.

@fabesey2016 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this and Parting of the Ways are the best finales.

@gh0stqu4rtz 5 ай бұрын

@@michaeltaylor4375 yeah season 8 finale was so bad

@SkyWingFeather Жыл бұрын

2:04 It took me a few listens, but listen to how the music builds here. It’s a slightly different rhythm and tune, but the instruments are the same. It’s “The Sound of Drums”, Simm’s theme from the Tennant era.

@davidchism6081 Жыл бұрын

3:23. The Doctor's face is going "What...?"

@TheDiplomat27 Жыл бұрын

I remember when I first saw this episode. The cliffhanger was amazing. The big reveal of the two masters and that chilling "I waited for you" and the one tear running down her face. WOW.

@IDCSarcasticSam Жыл бұрын

I remember when I saw when this episode first aired, as soon as I heard, "Someone's former prime minister.' I nearly sh*t myself 🤣😂

@BaronMartin Жыл бұрын

@@IDCSarcasticSam I remember when the Master's return was spoiled in the trailers.

@IDCSarcasticSam Жыл бұрын

@@BaronMartin I remember why I rarely watch them.

@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын

folks overlook them, but the ones who made this episode work are the makeup artists who made it possible to hide who was really under the mask of Razor: beautifully hidden in plain sight but enough of John Simm visible to make you go “how did i miss that!”

@viditjain2653 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, when Bill cried, the Cyberman cried too...is this why the new fully metal cybermen have a teardrop-like groove around their left eye?

@katiebellekrd 2 жыл бұрын

Hang on.....

@katiebellekrd 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god it could be

@modboyhenry1 6 жыл бұрын

This scene caught me by surprise even though we knew the master was going to show up.

@jimsilsby3841 Жыл бұрын

Mondasian Cybermen nailed the "uncanny valley". Other versions of the Cybermen are too close to robots. These ones are almost human, just... slightly off. It's much more unsettling. And the way they just open their mouths and words come out, sounding like distorted human voices but with the intonation on all the wrong words... Perfection.

@Kerriangel 3 жыл бұрын

Master: If you happen to be someone’s former Prime Minister... Meh he was still better than Boris Johnson

@Awelbeckk 2 жыл бұрын

Way better

@The12thDimension. 6 жыл бұрын

The music at the beginning is killer Fantastic!

@thecrimsonavenger5750 Жыл бұрын

The look on the 12th doctors face when he sees the master again. He thought he died with the time lords in the end of time. He really was shocked to see him

@mediakira6621 Жыл бұрын

Not really..he knows the master survived. I mean he’s spent two seasons going against Missy so he knows the master survived and became Missy .

@BigRhubarbFan 4 жыл бұрын

"I am robo-guy..." "youre a cyberman! A mondasian cyberman!" "that's the one..."

@JB-vq6xv 3 жыл бұрын

1:34 when I first heard that classic voice for the first time since the tenth planet I got instant chills

@DrJayPlays 4 жыл бұрын

Here remembering how much more I loved this Master reveal than the recent one in Spyfall. And lets not forget Utopia!!!

@SPM0717 4 жыл бұрын

You obviously weren't around when they leaked that John Simm was in it.

@daphnejyothi4795 3 жыл бұрын

Utopia was the best followed by this one.

@anoryxic9366 4 жыл бұрын

Who’s here after that Spyfall episode? lmao

@intouchdm 4 жыл бұрын

Anoryxic I’m exited about the new doctor but god dam I love missy! The acting she gave us was OMG good

@Peacock__ 4 жыл бұрын

@@intouchdm whats there to be exited for lol

@alexrowdyrodrigues9716 4 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda Hoping the Spyfall master is the one after Simms because he hates the Doctor again

@deityzero 4 жыл бұрын

@@alexrowdyrodrigues9716 It's either one between Simms and Missy or he pre-dates Jacoby and the Time War. It's very possible we've been meeting them out of order similar to River Song.

@alexrowdyrodrigues9716 4 жыл бұрын

@@deityzero fingers crossed man

@enwith1604 6 жыл бұрын

This episode grows on me more and more every time I watch it. The music and the suspense throughout is incredible, and has now officially made this episode one of my favourites of 12's era

@CoopTheDoop 5 жыл бұрын

The zoom in on John when he pulls the mask off is an amazing subtle reference to classic who with its crazy cliffhanger shots. Love it!

@kingpin6542 6 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad that the mondasian Cybermen were back cause they were my favourite Cyberman design

@Cybermat47 6 жыл бұрын

gingeking and Lucy the stupid dog Cornwall have you listened to _Spare Parts_ and _The Silver Turk_ ?

@leonhare6560 5 жыл бұрын

Except for the stomping😦

@thegallifreyanwhovian2544 6 жыл бұрын

If only they didn't put him in the trailer. No one managed to figure out he was in it and we managed to avoid all spoilers regarding Simm's return. There weren't any leaks at all. What a shame, as that could've been one of the greatest shock and awe moments of ALL TIME. Ugh. Simm was still great though.

@Lamadredetuamigo 6 жыл бұрын

The Gallifreyan Whovian but there was a leak. The Sun had the exclusive but before they published it, the BBC decided to include him in the trailers.

@tcborganisation8811 6 жыл бұрын

my genitals our itching now

@Velldog 4 жыл бұрын

When I watched this episode I had no idea John Simm was going to be in it. I didn't realise it was him until he revealed. It was a great moment.

@cunningsmile4166 4 жыл бұрын

"Give us a kiss"

@hirencorn2313 3 жыл бұрын

I've never watched the trailer, but when I was there (in the series), I had watched only the seasons 5678 and 9, I didn't knew the master......... Thanks netflix

@MantraHerbInchSin Жыл бұрын

These ones look so much more scary than the armored ones, god damn

@tennisthelegend 4 жыл бұрын

When the Cybermen were humans with metal scraps in them Uhhh creepy

@donaldpaluga 6 жыл бұрын

If only they did.... MIssy-I can't believe I kissed you The Master-Must have been your lifelong ambition

@solarisone1082 5 жыл бұрын

Well played, Kirk. Well played...

@redshirtveteran5688 3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, The Undiscovered Country, nice.

@AerialFire 5 жыл бұрын

I rate this finale as one of the best. It hit all the right points- THe story, drama and acting were all superb. I didnt even mind the Liquid Pilot deus ex machina that much.

@frosty8592 4 жыл бұрын

The acting on Peter’s face just made this scene 10/10

@jezzaus2124 4 жыл бұрын

2:46 Say what you want about John Simm's Master but it is definately iconic to New Who.

@Gennaropacchiano 4 жыл бұрын

"you'll never be so self destructive" And, One episode later, they kill each other.

@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 6 жыл бұрын

This would of been such a great plot twist if John sinn was not accounced his return

@Steviio 6 жыл бұрын

TimeForTeletubbies it really would be, when I see Americans react to it (who haven’t watched the trailers) they go mad

@timwoods8297 5 жыл бұрын

Johnny Sins is a different kind of actor)

@jtotheroc 4 жыл бұрын

Everytime I see this episode and john simms returning to his greatest role ever, I still get chills and wish capaldi never left the TARDIS.

@RichardTLDR 3 жыл бұрын

Don't we all.

@kaledmasterme 4 жыл бұрын

*former prime minister on EARTH* *wears a disguise so he's not recognised... on a MONDASIAN ship* Master: like I needed an excuse

@r.4315 4 жыл бұрын

They explain the next episode he also became a politician there after his TARDIS crashed.

@mattwho81 4 жыл бұрын

He took over the Mondas ship too, till they overthrew him and forced Him into hiding.

@Uraby210Incorporated 4 жыл бұрын

He was hiding his identity from Bill. Who would immediately have recognised Harold Saxon. Probably.

@scotthadden9816 4 жыл бұрын

His explanation is pretty sound. For the top of the ship time is a matter of minutes. In the same time the further down the ship you go, years can pass. He saw the Tardis appear, would've known at least one of the people stepping out of it would be human, and doesn't want to chance that they know who Harold Saxon is, and would recognise him immediately.

@Surfboarder4 4 жыл бұрын

hes Bill's former prime minister

@iambutpaper1172 6 жыл бұрын

THE FOUR KNOCKS IN THE MUSIC THEME

@SGRev1 5 жыл бұрын

The way John Simm's Master is reintroduced was such a brilliant throwback to Anthony Ainley Master's numerous disguises in late Classic Who.

@Maynick2001 2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe that I just now put together that when he says "former prime minister" he meant that Bill would have recognized him as Harold Saxon. What a great thing to consider when disguising him.

@sonicspyrofan5237 Жыл бұрын

When a companion of the doctor leaves it’s bitter sweet, when they are killed it’s just…devastating 😢

@kopitarrules 6 жыл бұрын

Three of my top five favourite villains together, and ALL of them former/current companions of The Doctor. It's why this episode/Series/Doctor/Show is SO amazing. love, Love, LOVE it!

@jeckjeck3119 5 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@ThatGuy001 4 жыл бұрын

Who come back here after series 12 latest episode?

@k9drwho1970 4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@luis99tv 4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes

@micahmahaffey5919 4 жыл бұрын

I wanted to be reminded of the days when Doctor Who was still good lol

@billmurray7676 4 жыл бұрын

There is no series 12, what are you talking about, the show ended with Capaldi.

@micahmahaffey5919 4 жыл бұрын

@@billmurray7676 yeah really! Idk why people keep acting like the show didn't end?

@pikachucetthesecond4296 Жыл бұрын

On one hand, they really did Bill dirty. On the other hand, they did the Mondasian Cybermen REALLY well. I couldn't take them seriously in The Tenth Planet, they looked and sounded too ridiculous. Which makes it impressive that they managed to make them more terrifying without actually changing that much about them (although it's probably just because they had production than they did in 1966)

@elementus2857 3 жыл бұрын

2:20 this moment would have been so much better if it wasn't spoiled in the trailers

@Cybermat47 Жыл бұрын

Murray Gold: ‘The series 10 soundtrack will be released.’ Fans: 3:45

@BowtiesAreCool 4 жыл бұрын

My all-time favourite scene in Doctor Who history...

@RogueWJL 2 жыл бұрын

Russell has got to bring these two back. Totally superb. I loved Bill Potts. Best companion since Donna Noble.

@StarRider587 7 ай бұрын

Agreed. I really wish she had more than 1 season.

@whodatninja439 6 ай бұрын

i desperately wished capaldi did another season with bill and nardole. 10 is the best season hands down. and hes the best doctor

@Blitzo8390 5 жыл бұрын

I knew The Master was coming back, but I was fooled by his hobo disguise

@naparry4772 2 жыл бұрын

This scene still absolutely blows me away. Brilliantly done

@johnnyedge12 6 жыл бұрын

Thank god we found out how the master regenerated

@IAmQueenieQ 8 күн бұрын

The theme music to this throughout was masterful.

@ScoobyandShaggy5554 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine If Simm returning was kept secret? We’d all be blown away and would be the best reveal in DW history

@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne Жыл бұрын

it's The Sun's fault for spoiling the reveal. Absolute rag of a paper.

@steakman1989 4 жыл бұрын

The old Mondasian Cyberman costume is cheap and flimsy, and yet is absolutely terrifying. It hits that uncanny valley in the perfect way that the modern Cyberman (or hell even the later iterations of Cybermen in classic who) just seem to miss. The design, the movements, and the voice are so WRONG and yet so perfect.

@Andym8910 3 жыл бұрын

I love the voice of the cyberman, it's like its computer processing every sentence

@RogueWJL 2 жыл бұрын

Capaldi is phenomenal here

@DCSMedia 3 жыл бұрын

This story is an absolute masterpiece. My favourite Capaldi Story, from series 10, one of the best series ever in my opinion and possibly the creepiest the cybermen have been

@stallone6229 4 жыл бұрын

I actually didn't had it spoiled for me. This was one of my favorite episodes, confused with what is happening, and slowly realizing that they're building cybermen, and that Bill turned into one. Great twist.

@rlacksgh9673 4 жыл бұрын

Lucky you!