There's an interesting thing I found out during the 1980's the T was working on the Alewife Extension and gernarly extending platforms to 6 car trains. So the T had the 01100s retired from Wellington brought to Cabot. Now the T during this time had some lack of trains. The 01400s wore in bad condition primarily multiple were in out of service. The T wanted to use the 011100s on the Red Line, although this never happened because the 01100s created space gaps at the station, plus the 01100s were In strict work car activity which these were used mostly at night. As to provide trains on the Red Line the T actually wanted to use the Hawker Siddeley 01300-01319 on the Red Line for revenue use, although this has never happened so the T got the 01700s from UTDC

Car Body Type of the 01200s & 01300s The carbody is a steel welded structure of low Alloy high tensile steel, which includes the entire underframe.

Some more information Length (over anticlimbers): 65 ft 0 in Width: 9 ft 3 in Height: 11 ft 11 3/4 in Empty Weight: 66,330 Ibs Passenger Load, Seated: 74,450 Ibs Passenger Load, Standing: 88,600 Ibs Passenger Load, Crush: 96, 150 Ibs Maximum Speed: 65 mi/h Nominal Accerleration: 2.5 mi/h/s Full Service Braking: 2.75 mi/h/s Emergency Braking: 3.25 mi/h/s

Some more information The T issued in 1973 for a replacement for the Orange Line and Blue Line. The contact was signed in August 19, 1976 to Hawker Siddeley, Canada INC for the purchase of 70 cars for the Blue Line and 120 for the Orange Line. The same day of purchase and Widrawn. The married couple cars the MBTA corperated with UMTA requested Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) conduct engineering test with each married pair at the Transportation Test Center in Pueblo, Colorado. The Blue Line Hawker Siddeley 0600s from April 11 to October 1979. The 01200s from Febuary through April 1981. More Information given soon. I think you could also do the 0600s in the 01200s, cause their the same thing and have a big relationship. Apparently the T is going to retire the Pullman Standard 01500's and 01600s in July 2024.

Worthy effort! Can’t wait to see what the end product is! Thanks!

Glad to hear you’re feeling a lot better, Nick! I’ve actually been drawing the 12s in a notebook of mine, I will make a video showcasing my MBTA drawings in a few days.

sweet! - Don’t forget the Transition using them initially on the elevated before being put into the trench.. also the AC issues hehe and maybe the difference between them and their Blue line brothers

I look forward to your project. Always enjoy your history and content on the MBTA.

I am looking forward to seeing it! Also good to see you are doing well!

Sounds like a fun project.. I'm curious if the MBTA would be able to give you access to photos as well..

Nice

The T updated on the 01200s scrap section on NE transit, they changed 14/15 to got scrapped

The T is updated NE Transit. It says 1500s manufacturer date increased to 2024 and 1900s date increased to 2025.

Hears some information Manufacturer: Hawker Siddeley, Canada Model: No.12 Main Line Electrical: General Electric Length: 65 feet (20 meters) Width: 9 feet 3 inches Seats: 58 Golden Seats (1979-2006), Colorful Leather Seats (2006-Present) Total: 01200-01319 (120) In Service: February 6, 1981-August 19, 2022 Cars out of Service: 48 Scrapped: 72 These were signed to be purchased in 1976. Fun fact the T actually contracted Hawker Siddeley in the 1950's to replace the Standard Steel 0900s serious. Although they selected Pullman Standard 01100s in 1957. Information about the 01100s Manufacterer: Pullman Standard Model: No. 11 Main Line Electrical: General Electric Length: 55 feet Width: 9 feet 3 inches Doors: 3 Each Side Total: 01100-01199 (100) In Service: April 1957-November 9, 1981 Scrapped: 1981-1987 Preserved: 01178 & 01179 by Seashore Trolley Museum in 1991. The 01100s were having issues in the 1970's. Due to constant derailments on the Charlestown Elevated. Also not being able to couple on curved tracks. Also part of the Southwest Corridor project and the Red Line Alewife and Braintree Extension. The T ended up purchasing the 01200s in 1976 instead of planning to be purchased in 1987. The 01100s made it's last run on November 9, 1981. The 01100s wee converted to work equipment in 1983, these ran on the Southwest Corridor for testing, also carrying bricks, and used in the Southwest Corridor, also several sets were transfered to Cabot Yard in 1983, to help with the Alewife Extension. The 01100s got scrapped in 1987. Except for 01178/01179 remained at Wellington Yard until 1991 those two were sent to the Seashore Trolley Museum for preservements. The 01200s original had golden leather seats until the mid 2000's these got seating replaced also flooring replaced. The main problem with the 01200s were traction motor failure and also the location it was placed in, got snow piled in it. The T has retired all 01200s in April 2023 from ther term "In Service". The T transfered 36 to Wellington Yard and 12 to Forest Hills Yard. Although vandals graffitied the 01200s at Forest Hills, so the T ended up transfering them to Wellington with 01281 being the lead car. Apparently the T has been running alot of 01200s around Wellington. 01264/01265 got parked next to the main line track sourh of Wellington with lights on, and Destination sign on. If you check Wellington the T turned on multiple 01200s with lights on and Destination sign on. The T may run the again one last time. I do have a few footages of the 01200s one at North Station and one at Forest Hills back in 2021. I due have more footage Although my old phone got broke, and needs to be repaired. If you check Wellington you will see the 01200s actually operatable. There is a photo taken by the T of a 01200s car being scrapped and torn down at Middleboro. The T Apparently still considers 01214/01215 still on prep to remove list, even though those two are gone. The 01200s actually have the roofs made for Pantographic to be installed like the 0600s. Although that never happened. Keep the hopes in the T will run them one last time, cause multiple had been running last week around Wellington.

Excellent!! It's always Great to see your amazing work, man!!

01312/01313 got removed for scrap just now

Ever played Cities-Skylines? Fun video game.

And we still are waiting for the green line documentary

Yes, a documentary entirely focused on the 01200! Great!

The T is Scrapping all Hawker Siddeley 01200s & 01300s by this month. Except 4 will be preserved.

I have a question, cause what I seen at Wellington may lead to the fact we all know. When the T gets new CRRC's do they have you hauler ramps to place them down on tracks? Cause what I have seen at Wellington... all 48 01200s got moved to the edge of Wellington, every single car has lights on, with 01294 moving all the units. Now next to them were haulers which may have came from Costello. Now two cars were directly next to them. Now if the haulers weren't for CRRCs to be placed on track. Then this may lead to the fact we all know what's going to happen. Also some community saying that 01292/01293 are being removed and are going to soon be Decommisioned down. Although I usually believe what the T says. Now this is very unfortunate news haulers next to the 01200s and moved to the edges of Wellington

Nice video Nick (Also sorry from joining ur Discord Ig they are right)

Yo nick do you think they are moving the 1200s with their own power any time soon? I recently was at Wellington and saw a few that moved a little.

Yay!!!!!!

I haven’t heard of any news for the 12s in a while but is the 1200s still at the Wellington yard? I heard that they ran there a few weeks ago.

I barely ride the Orange Line nowadays, because it just doesn't feel like the Orange Line anymore. If Siemens made a longer bodied version of the Blue Line 0700s, it would still be the true Orange Line to me.