The Mk III Snider and the Ballard Rifle: The Battle of Eccles Hill -PART ONE-

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Жыл бұрын

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@thatguynameddan2136
@thatguynameddan2136 Ай бұрын
I am a child. I have watched this multiple times and still laugh at the term "ball bag" over "expense pouch".
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Ай бұрын
What can I say... That's what it was called.... 😀
@lukedogwalker
@lukedogwalker Жыл бұрын
This is where KZfaq shines: you could watch a thousand hours of sensationalist light-weight pap on TV and never gain half the insight that this "amateur" production has already provided, and it's only part one! Nothing amateur, here. Editing, scripting, interview skills... and a clear focus on telling the story with clarity and relevance. It''s all here. Well done, Rob.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Very kind.
@CarolusRedivivus
@CarolusRedivivus Жыл бұрын
Hear hear! Can't be said enough in regards to this channel.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@tirdad4026
@tirdad4026 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Please enable Farsi subtitles for all your clips
@jmoore5716
@jmoore5716 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, I think this is very amateur. Not in a not very good way but in that the word amateur comes from the Latin word for "love" and it is clear that this is all a labour of love for this remarkable chap.
@Rkolb2798
@Rkolb2798 Жыл бұрын
The Government would have kittens if they thought a civilian militia would protect themselves with firearms nowadays .
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@thejustice7305
@thejustice7305 Жыл бұрын
They do in the US
@MidMo4020
@MidMo4020 Жыл бұрын
@@thejustice7305 yes they do! 🇺🇸
@chrisgibson5267
@chrisgibson5267 Жыл бұрын
Standing armies were seen as being the tools of Absolutist monarchs, like the Johnnies on the Continent. The experience of the wars of tbe 1640s and 1650s drove this hime, but tbe increasing use of firearms made one a necessity.
@BBear-km7mx
@BBear-km7mx Жыл бұрын
A superb presentation. I use to use a MK III carbine. .577 Snider a fun cartrdige. I asked a friend who researches buffalo hunting in the 1870's (US) and asked if he'd found any reference of the Snider being used on the buffalo ranges? After 2 days he reported back that: "Once they found out the buffalo could outrun the Snider bullet, they quit using it!"
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Great story!
@MrEKWesq
@MrEKWesq Жыл бұрын
Fabulous film, Rob, about the Fenian forces that foregathered at Franklin on the forested frontier of French Canada and the firearms they favoured! In all seriousness, thank you for covering this little known episode in Canadian history. Great first instalment and I very much look forward to Part II.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank Ewan! It's been fun having all the discussions!
@waynerobinson2656
@waynerobinson2656 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I grew up on the Niagara Frontier in the 50’s - 60’s (USA) and this is the first I ever heard of the Fenians. Thanks for the history lesson Rob.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome!
@tomkavulic7178
@tomkavulic7178 Жыл бұрын
13:09 This is a really beautiful shot, nice cinematography.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@walterjedi1478
@walterjedi1478 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, It's great to see such great care being but into one of the most overlooked parts of Canadian history. I had never even heard of this battle before.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule Жыл бұрын
Yet another fantastic video, Rob, thank you very much. Every new series you produce is broader and deeper, and I really enjoy them. The Snider is my favorite rifle of the period, so this series is of tremendous interest to me, especially as I am currently working to assemble a Rifleman's kit for the Battle of Eccles Hill (with the assistance of Lorne!). Thank you so much for doing this, it is deeply appreciated.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Nice! Another historical shooter would be great!
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders this is Hugh Knight, I think you've already seen FB posts about the kit.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
@@Schlachtschule Indeed!
@foowashere
@foowashere Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and as always, superbly edited. The integration of contributors and content/topics is absolutely peak KZfaq. I had only cursory knowledge of the Fenian raids, but now I’m curious for more. Thanks for making and sharing!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Very kind. Thank you!
@AdelaideRegiment
@AdelaideRegiment Жыл бұрын
Regarding the apparent lack of expense pouches in the 60th, I can't help a niggling possibility that it was the custom in that unit to wear them pushed around to the back when not in use. I'm purely basing this on a precedent I know of among the South Australian Volunteers in the 1860s who sometimes incorrectly wore their expense pouches that way. I have both written accounts and a photo showing it happening.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Nic... In the pics available, the rear of those shown are without pouches.
@donphilp7511
@donphilp7511 Жыл бұрын
Is this in my opinion which one of your best. Not only did you include the usual detail and uniform spec of armaments but the explanation of the history of the fenians. I have never heard it explained so well and intertwined with the history of the changing armaments of the day. I think in this episode you have a winning combination that could be applied to other episodes. Much appreciated
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you to say!
@hailsland
@hailsland Жыл бұрын
From minute 28: The lack of the expense pouch I can easily see if you're coming from the era of percussion caps or flintlocks. If anything the expense pouch just adds another step for a soldier who may be use to finding everything he needs (or mostly everything i.e with exception to a percusion cap) in one pouch. Being a reenactor of The of 1812 we kind of scoff at the people who insist on "powder horns" because if you have the option for 1-stop-shopping you take it.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
It wold have been a question of logistics... The "Expense Pouch" model is greatly superior, for sure.
@francoisrioux5869
@francoisrioux5869 Жыл бұрын
Jean Plamondon operates a nice historic firearms and militaria shop in Sherbrooke at the heart of the Eastern Township. I purchased a couple rifles from him and always had outstanding service.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Indeed! Thankful for his help!
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous Жыл бұрын
Thanks to all who contributed to this; a lot of Irish history gets overlooked here in England, so to hear about the Fenians is a very interesting insight for me. Thank you again.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome Simon!
@PunchCatcher
@PunchCatcher Жыл бұрын
Rob that was utterly fantastic. Informative without being pedantic, passionate without being overzealous, and simply brilliant. I can't wait for part two and beyond.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@keithagn
@keithagn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful story! We are all looking forward to Part Two. Best Regards!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@StormLaker
@StormLaker Жыл бұрын
Just checking back in after a long hiatus. I really enjoy your content, and this video is (what I feel) one of your best. They don't really teach this history in school here in the US, but it's an important chapter in Canada's history. They never really taught us much about Canada in school, much of what I have learned is from people like you who have shared its history and culture. Keep up the great content!!
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 Жыл бұрын
They don't teach this history in Canadian schools either!!
@StormLaker
@StormLaker Жыл бұрын
@@minuteman4199 really? Sad.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Very kind. The Fenian Raids aren't really known about here too...
@sterlingmoose9335
@sterlingmoose9335 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I've had an interest in the Fenian Raids for some time. This is a great deep dive into the uniforms and arms of the period. The action on the Niagara peninsular in 1866 deserves it's own focus. Very much looking forward to Part 2.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Ridgeway will have it's own video at some point.
@ronbyers9912
@ronbyers9912 Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in the United States your posts provide a Canadian history. Most of us from the US figure you Canadians are really nice and polite people who are sort of like the people who live in Minnesota.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
The border is more than a just line on the ground for sure! 😀
@Kiba_Mar-Glas
@Kiba_Mar-Glas Жыл бұрын
i love the amount of effort and enthusiasm in the videos, and learning so much more about history that I probably would have never known about. thank you for this
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@leonidaslantz5249
@leonidaslantz5249 Жыл бұрын
What a great video,as all of yours are. Thank you,sir. I am looking forward to part 2.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@bc30cal99
@bc30cal99 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from the south Okanagan again, thanks for another wonderful video. We surely do not have many stumps out here the size of the ones you were skirmishing through! The content is great as usual sir and sheds light on a mostly unknown part of our history. Best to you all this year.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@PLAYINGAROUND
@PLAYINGAROUND Жыл бұрын
Yet more quality Rob (& Co.) ! Excellent!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Definitely helped a great deal by our guests on this one.
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work Rob, I'm very much looking forward to the continuation. A hearty thanks to the gentlemen who provided their expertise, equipment, and knowledge so Rob could make these videos.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers! The gang was indispensable for this one!
@23spiker
@23spiker Жыл бұрын
Glad this channel was recommended to me! Covering of a lesser known yet important historical event in an interesting yet simple way with demonstrations to help visualize what the narrator is describing. Very good channel.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad to have you along! Cheers!
@coldandaloof7166
@coldandaloof7166 Жыл бұрын
Great video Rob as always. Loved your Q&A with Othias as well. Looking forward to more with that teaser as well.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! Cheers!
@Mick028
@Mick028 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Rob, one of your best so far, thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@blackhawk65589
@blackhawk65589 Жыл бұрын
I just recently found your channel and this is almost TV production levels! It's nice to see a British/Canadian military perspective, which was considered the greatest nation at its time.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
That is very kind of you to say! Thank you.
@TheWirksworthGunroom
@TheWirksworthGunroom Жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb Sir! Once more you set the standard, ably assisted by your fine contributors.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil!
@CountCrapula.
@CountCrapula. Жыл бұрын
I had never even heard of the fenian raids before. Every day you learn something new. Interesting bit of history.. Great video!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@colinarmstrong1892
@colinarmstrong1892 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and I look forward to part two
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Red-jl7jj
@Red-jl7jj Жыл бұрын
An amazing video about an event(s) I have never heard of.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@SKNAZIR-sx1th
@SKNAZIR-sx1th Жыл бұрын
Very nice discussion in the video.Thank you so much
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@markiobook8639
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
Superlative history, and bloody jolly good uniform, swagger and brilliant delivery.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@marks_sparks1
@marks_sparks1 Жыл бұрын
Great work Rob & fellow collaborators. I look forward to part 2.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@charlesperry5890
@charlesperry5890 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video, great attention to detail and research!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ogilkes1
@ogilkes1 Жыл бұрын
As ever a great exposition. Looking forward to the other parts.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@niklasaskham4208
@niklasaskham4208 Жыл бұрын
Truly a work of passion. Excellent production Rob. Keep it Dapper
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Will do!
@danellis548
@danellis548 Жыл бұрын
What a great video and thanks for doing this Rob. This will inspire me to get my Snider MKII off the wall tonight.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Great!
@alex7x57
@alex7x57 Жыл бұрын
Great job, Rob! Love the production value!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@kearnsey64
@kearnsey64 Жыл бұрын
Bloody lovely Rob! Thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@MrChrisStarr
@MrChrisStarr Жыл бұрын
Well... what can I say! A part of history I knew nothing about. Again a fantastic episode, can't wait for part 2! One of, if not the best historical channels on KZfaq.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Chris! Your support is gratefully accepted.
@alhaun5904
@alhaun5904 Жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING PROGRAM GREAT DETAIL ON THE CAMPAIGN
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
More to follow!
@Kumimono
@Kumimono Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, the info, history, lore in these is excellent. But the scenery, is breathtaking.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@Touchstarvedguy
@Touchstarvedguy Жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video, Rob! Happy new year!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
And to you! Cheers!
@ptonpc
@ptonpc Жыл бұрын
A great video as always. I had to wait until I had peace to watch this. Well worth it.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@HicksPasha1883
@HicksPasha1883 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation Rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stevee8318
@stevee8318 Жыл бұрын
Great video on a conflict largely unknown outside of Canada, thank you
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon Жыл бұрын
You always manage to look very dapper in uniform! Good stuff as always :)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
haha! Thank you!
@NodoudtYT
@NodoudtYT Жыл бұрын
Truly, I would watch these videos with a measure of interest deserving of Rob's efforts - but alas his warm and studious narration always lulls me into a content slumber.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Falling asleep,.... the goal of every video. Cheers!
@alwaysbearded1
@alwaysbearded1 Жыл бұрын
What different start to the year. I think bringing in so many others helps tell the history. History is a collection of stories, facts, and perspectives so why not tell it that way? Good job. I'll be waiting for the next chapter.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois Жыл бұрын
The beginning of another outstanding series.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@nicflatterie7772
@nicflatterie7772 Жыл бұрын
This was super interesting. Especially since I was born in St-Jean and attended military college there as well. I remember how we did not particularly love the red parade uniforms, I appreciate your dedication to history. These things are hot! 32:00, nice Astrakans! Keep up the great work!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@RCAFpolarexpress
@RCAFpolarexpress Жыл бұрын
Good Evening I'm from the Eastern Townships and I went Visiting The site of the Battle of Eccles Hill very nice monument and thank you for your OUTSTANDING Informative video 😇👌👍 Cheers 🍻🍻
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Old_8_gauge
@Old_8_gauge Жыл бұрын
I have a Synder Enfield. Can't afford to shoot it much, but quite fun. Thanks for the info. Great video, as always.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 Жыл бұрын
Great work, and history, our family are UEL from Kinston and area.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@444mopar
@444mopar Жыл бұрын
Great video, looking forward to part 2! In this day and age it's difficult to imagine how it felt wise to wear a bright red tunic into combat! I suppose advent of the breech loader led to the changes in military tactics which would have demonstrated the pitfalls of walking around wearing a massive bullseye however in 1879 give me the rifleman's uniform or even civilian dress!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Really it wasn't an issue... given the tactics and nature of warfare in the era.
@RPMZ11
@RPMZ11 Жыл бұрын
A brilliant tribute 🍁
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U Жыл бұрын
A new serie. Wonderfull!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@MichaelJohnson-tw7dq
@MichaelJohnson-tw7dq Жыл бұрын
Very professional presentation
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 Жыл бұрын
Great to see the extra people involved! There are some shots where you clearly had a camera operator as well, and those moments added a touch of dynamism and... well, je ne sai quoi, but the camera operator was the improvement I noticed the most. All in all, I think this is your best video to date in terms of production value, whilst retaining your normal standards of knowledge and history, and I hope you're able to keep making videos in this manner!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! But no camera operator.... just me and some gizmos...
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Well, give the robot some extra fine oil then!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY USA brother thank you for sharing this history of Canada
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Most welcome!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding job brother
@ES90344
@ES90344 Жыл бұрын
I used to live a few miles from Franklin, VT. The raids were always an interesting topic, I don't remember much mention of them on the US side though. I think there's a monument on the Quebec side of the border.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@GreenMosin93
@GreenMosin93 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, how has this account only 84k subscribers?? I can learn more about British firearms and military engagements in an hour of casual viewing AND be more entertained than most TV shows.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha! Very kind. It is what it is, I suppose. Talking and sharing is a start I suppose... Cheers!
@artemisfowl7191
@artemisfowl7191 Жыл бұрын
The US Govt. took a somewhat lax approach to the Fenians due to a number of issues relating to the British government that the US had. Most of these issues came down to blockade runners loaded with P53 rifles and Merchant Raiders such as the CSS Alabama. A single blockade runner with say, 20,000 rifles could put an additional division of rebel forces in the field, Johnston's army (iirc) was saved by a timely blockade runner on at least one occasion. While the Union Navy tried to interdict merchant raiders the Alabama took 65 Union merchants over the course of two years before being sunk by the Kearsarge off the coast of France, while the battles against German cruisers in the first and second world wars are ingrained in the British culture, none of those German ships reached the levels of destruction that the Alabama caused.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Very interesting history there for sure!
@mickeyholding7970
@mickeyholding7970 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and I hope that you'll do a follow up on this.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Part Two will come eventually!
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
Learned something new, thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@annemadison7258
@annemadison7258 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@JasperFromMS
@JasperFromMS Жыл бұрын
My compliments, Brother Rob. You appear to be able to muster some high-horsepower collaborators.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
They all have been such a great addition to the project!
@vincetytler6175
@vincetytler6175 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work, that salute though makes my skin crawl
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
History hurts sometimes.... 😀
@ralfrude3532
@ralfrude3532 Жыл бұрын
​@@britishmuzzleloaders classic sapper's salute. An 8 x8 log fits comfortably. 😏
@AbananaPEEl
@AbananaPEEl Жыл бұрын
Wooooo! Another battle series!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Wooo hoo!
@hardalarboard8876
@hardalarboard8876 Жыл бұрын
Great video, interesting! like the new gear!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
New-ish.....
@hardalarboard8876
@hardalarboard8876 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Oh dear! New to me anyway, not seen that shako before definitely. Sorry!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
@@hardalarboard8876 Indeed, the shako is the newest bit. Everything else has been on the Channel already.... That's all I was referencing. 😀
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that Canadians were members of the Arnold J Rimmer school of saluting...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
The standard military salute, Empire-wide until 1870. Little known fact.
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Don't tell the Americans, it will only make them smug.
@salaminshikiya9351
@salaminshikiya9351 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great presentation on the introduction to this topic, Rob. Can't wait for the next part. I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but a few days ago I've been going through the confusing list of names of 19th century Canadian Militia units out of curiousity. Then this video came up. Thanks to this, it has let me know the gist of the general state of the militia in 1860s and 1870s and answered some of my questions. Although, speaking of line infantry's kits and uniforms, were the "light infantry" and Scottish units included in this category?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
There were most types represented at various times in the Victorian era. Many of the units that still exist today, went through a "conversion" or "renaming" process at some point in their existence. What we know as the Black Watch of Canada (in Montreal) began it's life as a collection of Independent Companies and then the 5th Bn, Volunteer Militia Rifles of Canada... The Fifth went on to be Light Infantry, Fusiliers, "Scots Fusiliers", and Highlanders..... a real mixed bag....
@MrRedbeard762
@MrRedbeard762 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@mrrenick1
@mrrenick1 Жыл бұрын
I’m really looking forward to the next instalment(s?) in this series!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 Жыл бұрын
I would have thought that the rural militias would have had their own personal basic gear just from living the rural lifestyle.(canteen/water container, back pack of some kind, and other satchels/ pouches) I get that it's not "standard issue", but I figured that if they were called to arms, and had not been given all of the "standard issue" battle rattle, then they would bring their own to supplement what was issued. I also figured their local leadership would be ok with this since they lived in the same "towns" and were in the same boat as far as gear and supplies.
@zoiders
@zoiders Жыл бұрын
The whole point of living in township is so you don't have to cut about in full battle rattle. Poor labourers were unlikely to own all that equipment. They had boots and the clothes they stood up in mostly. The thing you are forgetting here is that white people did all the shit work in Canada. Not slaves or freed slaves.
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 Жыл бұрын
@@zoiders I don't see where skin color has anything to do with owning and using a backpack, satchel or canteen for hunting or working in the wilderness... but since you brought it up, if those were the people doing the hard work of hunting and working in the wilderness, then they would have had the equipment(tents, backpacks, canteens, satchels, ect...) to accomplish that work away from their homes in the townships. And just because they owned the gear, doesn't mean that they went around wearing it 24/7 (assuming that's what you mean by "cut about in full battle rattle"). They would only wear/use the gear when needed, such as when working or hunting in the wilderness away from their home in the township. Furthermore, based on what Rob said, many of those same citizens would be members of the local militia, and by extension, would be the one's that were called to arms... thus many of the militiamen likely owned civilian versions of the "standard issued gear" that wasn't issued to them. So maybe they were so ridged on idea of "standard issue gear or none at all" that they didn't allow private gear. Or maybe upon muster, the men were told that the gear would be issued to them (in a few days or weeks or whatever), so they left their personal gear at home when they marched off. Or maybe there was another reason why they didn't supplement their lack of gear with their personal equipment... I'm not sure, but I still don't see any validity at all in your argument other than being a troll.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
The apparent evidence of lack of these items would suggest otherwise.
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders lol I agree Rob! Keep up the good work, we're praying for all you boys up north.
@davidhansen5067
@davidhansen5067 Жыл бұрын
New subscriber here, from C&Rsenal. The Irish absolutely DID scare Canada into existence.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@brianfoster4434
@brianfoster4434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@danielansell577
@danielansell577 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, and very informative, as usual. Though I must observe that both the Fenians and the Red Sashes would have been better off with Remington rolling blocks, even if they were limited to the .50/70 cartridge. Very impressed with depth of knowledge displayed by you and all your contributors, and very much looking forward to part 2!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Choices, choices... Cheers!
@johnndavis7647
@johnndavis7647 Ай бұрын
The British just have to be different.
@johnndavis7647
@johnndavis7647 Ай бұрын
Well, actually the British had a lot of muskets that could easily and cheaply be converted to fire self contained cartridges. The US did it with The top opening Trap Door Springfeild. The British used the side opening Snyder conversion . The militia had many Ballard rifles. These were fine and popular sporting rifles in the era of black powder cartridges The Ballard was chambered in dozens of calibers over almost 50 years. They have not said what caliber the militia preferred.
@garydawson6346
@garydawson6346 Жыл бұрын
Great seeing Branko too. Chimo
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Miss you out West, Garry!
@armorer94
@armorer94 Жыл бұрын
Good job, Rob and thank you. As I live in a border town in Michigan I have read of the Fenian raids. But this fleshes it out nicely. Were these the early .577 Snider rounds that were made more of a heavy foil, rather than the later drawn brass versions?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Service Snider ammunition was always rolled foil case.
@biggiouschinnus7489
@biggiouschinnus7489 Жыл бұрын
On another note, I cannot help but wonder if the lack of expense pouches, combined with the Needham rifles' deficiencies, might partly explain why casualties were so light when compared with Laing's Nek, for example.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Not really comparable IMHO, and no, the kit had little to do with either, I'd say...
@biggiouschinnus7489
@biggiouschinnus7489 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I've just realised that I got the names of Schuinschoogte and Laing's Nek mixed up! Oh well it happens yo the best of us. Looking forward to part II!
@cheesenoodles8316
@cheesenoodles8316 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@hiltonian_1260
@hiltonian_1260 Жыл бұрын
I always knew about the Confederate raid out of Canada on St Albans, but I never knew about the raids back across the border by the Fenians. Thanks for illuminating a relatively unknown piece of history. The US Canadian border was a lot more contentious than we think of it today.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
The two events aren't really related, but are interesting vignettes regardless!
@hiltonian_1260
@hiltonian_1260 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders The only relationship between the two events is the fact that the “special relationship” between the US and the UK in the 19th c was the inverse of today. Look up Fort Montgomery (“Fort Blunder”) as an indication of the tension along the border throughout that time.
@RailfanDownunder
@RailfanDownunder Жыл бұрын
Interesting.... Learning something
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@willjohnson1273
@willjohnson1273 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rob is that how they saluted in the militia or was that a naval attachment lol 😆. Very interesting piece of work.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
That was the standard military salute from about 1814 til 1870. Empire-wide. There's a bit of trivia for you!
@polymathart
@polymathart Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on Fort Henry. I wish I could go see it myself.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Not really the preserve of the Channel, but maybe in the future if the topic applies....
@biggiouschinnus7489
@biggiouschinnus7489 Жыл бұрын
Always thought this was a massively under-examined subject in 19th century military history. Very tenuous thinking on my part, but I think that it's interesting, despite having many Civil War veterans, the Fenians don't seem to have done any better at Eccles than the British would at Majuba, or the US against the Sioux or Nez Perce. "Regular"-style armies - ones centred around drilled, linear warfare - really seem to have struggled against irregular skirmishers in this period.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Not really comparable I'd say.... Lot's more to discuss in Part Two though!
@murphylhunn
@murphylhunn Жыл бұрын
Dont you love it when you search something and a channel titled exactly that comes up? Edit And what a stache! Brilliant
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Nice! Welcome!
@mongo5564
@mongo5564 Жыл бұрын
This is what the history channel should be
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@mongo5564
@mongo5564 Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders love your channel. Your a gift to the remembrance of history.
@KrzemieniProch
@KrzemieniProch Жыл бұрын
One of the many things I admire in your videos is the views, if it's not a secret where are these mountains located besides in Canada? :)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Western Canada. 😀
@KrzemieniProch
@KrzemieniProch Жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Let me think... around Ottawa or Quebec? 🤔 😎
@owensthilaire8189
@owensthilaire8189 3 күн бұрын
$37 for a rifle in an era where having fifteen cents in ones pocket was considered carrying cash. I generally add two zeros to prices of the 1800's to get the modern equivalent.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 3 күн бұрын
Indeed!
@keithmoore5306
@keithmoore5306 Жыл бұрын
from the Fenians to Trudeuo looks like you need to start reforming home guard units up there!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Strange times.
@gerardlabelle9626
@gerardlabelle9626 Ай бұрын
I’ve just been reading about William Walker, the American adventurer who took over Nicaragua in the 1850s. He was part of a wider “filibuster” movement that sought to conquer Latin American countries. This had some support in the American public and even in Congress. Overall , the idea was very controversial. The Fenian project could be thought of as a “northern” filibuster, again with some public support among the American people. It had recent precedent, however outrageous it sounds 150 later.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Ай бұрын
Much less public support by 1870... different international relations than in Latin America, etc....
@martinthemalnourishedmuske7532
@martinthemalnourishedmuske7532 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rob! I was wondering where you got your coat and trousers from.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Part 8 of the Kit Series has the details. Cheers!
@BBear-km7mx
@BBear-km7mx Жыл бұрын
In the future might there be coverage of the Peabody Model 1866 (Model 1866 not used by the Providence Tool Co., but by most folks dealing with Peabody irons). They were purchased due to the Fenian threat, for the Canadian Provincial Government, 3,000 Peabody rifles were bought. To keep logistics simple they used the Spencer .56.50 rimfire cartridge in their Peabody rifles - seeing as how they also used Spencer carbines. I shoot a Canadian rimfire Peabody rifle and a .50 rimfire Peabody carbine, using Starline .56-50 brass. Remove the rimfire block from the Peabody and replace it with a centerfire Peabody block (from a .43 Spanish Peabody rifle). Also need to off set the hammer with a spacer washer, in order to clear the hammer nose from the centerfire block. This allows these fine old Peabody irons to be taken afield once again... Much appreciation for your time and involvement with the sharing of your many fine historical videos.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Perhaps. it was certainly a product of the ridiculous model of acquisitions and purchasing used here that continues to this day....
@brucedrake5493
@brucedrake5493 Ай бұрын
“His impression of militia shooting” 😂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Ай бұрын
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