I have ordered my Behringer Poly D, we had two minimoogs in my band and it costs a fortune to maintain them. Honestly the sound might be slightly different but even two minimoogs don't sound the same. But for the price difference I can buy 10 Poly D and still have spare money. The features in Poly D are just amazing.

I havr an original (1974) Model D and Poly D. The Poly D is close, but in the end, it does sound thin and it lacks gain. I have managed to address both issues with external processing though. Just my .02 cents.

how we should immagine the difference in comparing two instruments, when you do not use similar sounds ? Sometimes you do not use the same volume .... this is just showing how fast you can play and tweak two instruments, but not a comparision.

AWESOME VIDEO!!!! Thank you Zack. Ordering a Poly D!

Very good review

I've owned a few Minimoog's over the past 40 years and and no two ever sounded alike. If you're a collector; the Minimoog is for you. If you're a musician; the Poly D is a far better instrument.

I just bought the Poly D, sounds great.....if I could a Moog mini for the price of the poly D I would’ve bought it, but the Poly D still has more features. I have the Moog Sub 25 and they both sound great together when I’m jamming with them.

lets compare the two - and proceeds to play totally different sounds *facepalm

I think all of these comparative reviews fail to mention the user experience. Yes, you can absolutely get the Moog sound from a $10 plugin. However, a plugin or a cheap interface is not as inspiring as the experience of playing an old machine with its old interface. Like watching a movie, you can watch it on your small screen phone, or go to a movie theater. In both cases, you get to watch the movie but the experience of one is vastly different than the other.

I have my personal thoughts about this comparison. 1) What is the quality of the knob's ? My Minimoog limited edition 2016 have a very solid feel when I use it. The Behringer. has a much cheaper feel when I try this out to n a shop. The Fatar Keyboard on my Moog is much, much better than the Behringer. Last but not least : with the original Mini Moog you don’t have the chorus. For me that’s not a problem, I can choose my external chorus effect pedal. An original Model D doesn’t have effects, arpegiator and sequencer… but my opinion : Less is more !

I'm more of a DAW type of musician and personally I'd never invest into a Minimoog. Not musically, or as a type of investment. Musically I think vintage synths are vastly overrated. However, after owning the Deepmind for quite a while now, I can say that twisting some knobs and sliders is way more inspirational than using a vst. Still, I use both since I think vsts are irreplaceable within modern music production due to automation, lfo sync, updates, etc. Personally I think vintage synths have had their best time. Especially with the synthesizer Renaissance of today. You can't just compare synths like the Juno's to a Deepmind or a Minimoog to a Poly D anymore due to all the modern features these new synths come with nowadays and how well they integrate with a DAW. I will always admire vintage synths from a distance, yet will never buy one, even though I respect collectors or investors. To each their own.

That's up to the individual ! Love your work and agree with EVERYTHING you said in video !

Another great video Zach (Zack?) and I would definitely prefer the cheaper clone that comes with a warranty (and MIDI!) Behringer's poly clone army should begin invading in 2021 so I hope you guys can do more comparisons with the vintage gear at your disposal. Have a good weekend!

Closed my eyes to do a blind test, it was really hard to distinguish which was the original and which was the clone.

Does it age like wine? No. If the sound changes due to aging components, it is because the components are degrading. This might give a new sweet sound, but it is not the original sound, and it will be fleeting as components continue to degrade. Eventually it will be lost when you rebuild the synth due to failing components. Even when brand new, they didn't sound exactly the same. There is a limit to how perfect they can get the sound before costs start to grow exponentially. Most synth companies in the '70's were just trying to stay in business. They weren't perfecting the Steinway or Stratovarius of synths. Thankfully, the happy medium gave us good enough consistency at a reasonable price, and even minor variations don't affect the overall experience of a great synth. I have a Behringer Poly D and a Moog Matriarch. Different synths, but the Moog Grandmother (which the Matriarch significantly follows) is the current incarnation of the circuits that were in a Minimoog, and both the Grandmother and Matriarch are spin offs of the Moog modular synths. Comparing my Matriarch to my Poly D, I am very happy with the sound of both synths, and similarly happy they both have modern conveniences that vintage synths lack. Of course, if someone dropped a Minimoog in my lap I would be ecstatic to own a piece of great history and I would keep it and play it.

ein vergleich sollte mit identischen sounds gemacht werden und dann auch immer mit hintergrundsounds um die warnembarkeit der sounddetails zu testen. ein wildes drehen und schrauben ist nicht gerade das was representativ ist. eine die wesentlichen soundeigenschaften prägende eigenschaften,die in neuen nachfolgern nicht implementiert wurden, ist das reaktionsverhalten der Tastaturmechanik welche extrem soundprägend ist. der minimoog ist ein instrument das immer einen eigencharakter hat. jeder sollte für sich selbst entscheiden ob er das braucht und wert darauf legt oder nicht. mache ich etwas wie in dieser vorführung so reicht definitiv der behringer aus.

Is it worth it? It's still going up in price!

wow.. the poly d sounds sooo much thinner through my genelecs in this vid..

A never mentioned advantage of the original Minimoog: those extra 7 keys on the left! I hate to use the octave switch during soloing.

What happened to the face plate of the Minimoog? And great video, I have a 72 Minimoog and curious about the Bolymoog.

all the owners of moogs in the comments are sure it can't be copied. blind comparisons and meters tell the opposite. I will have a model-d for my midi keyboard and let the avantgarde people have fun with the original, where every repair job is more expensive than a Behringer. The Poly D is not on my wishlist, I have more than enough "too small" keyboards ;-)

I wish the poly d would actually look more like the minimoog. The woodwork just looks a bit cheap compared to the real deal but for the price, you really can’t complain

"This has new synth smell....it's not a fragrance yet...." 😆 🤣 😂 😆

Can you do a review of the moog one?

The Poly D is excellent. It’s so good I’ve sold and bought it 3 times. It’s an great, affordable entry point to a really special instrument. That being said, behringer synths started me on a my exploration of synthesizers. I eventually got my hands on a moog, then a bunch of moogs. I can tell you it’s far and away a more sonically rich instrument. I’ve owned the Moog Grandmother, Mother 32, Matriarch, and now a vintage minimoog. They’re all great honestly but the Behringer is like a vegan Moog.

Just imagine if you cold take the Behringer Poly D back to the early 70s. I bet it would cost today over 4 grand in the make believe minds of the Moog fanatics.

After three Poly D,s Have one that works well . I tune the Grandmother and D , wow off too space

In my opinion the Poly D (with or without its paraphonic feature) is what the modern Moog synths should have been. I think they got the balance between vintage feel vs. modern features just right, compared to the genuine Moog products with their LCD displays and touch surfaces. Those look out of place on the reincarnation of such a classic synth.

Another great video, Zach! I´m using the Poly D and I´m happy with it. Here´s an example: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9SZfcumv9XaeGg.html The sequence played by the Poly D is panned on the right speaker and starts at around 0.50

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Very good comparison. I own several Moogs (Taurus, Micromoog, Multimoog, Rogue, Opus 3) and a Behringer Poly D as well. Soundwise the Poly-D can compete with his older brothers. As I always say, an electronic circuit is an electronic circuit. You use the same circuit, it will sound the same - period! The old machines need constant care though because 40 year old capacitors, ICs and transistors will fail. So a collector should be good at either repairing electronics themselves or should be ready to spend a fortune on someone who does it for them 😂

Doesn’t make sense to do completely different sounds, oscillator configurations, and performances to compare two instruments.

Um parece um brinquedo... o outro é O MOOG.

This is a little loaded pairing a Model D with a crappy panel to a crisp clean Ulimoog.

Romanticism is not going to make your songs sound better and with more tricks in the sound, let's not forget that it is a machine invented to imitate real acoustic sounds and the truth is that it does not do a bad job if we see the great limits that the minimoog has. I think you have to look at the 2 units from 1970. What would happen if your Moog did not exist and in 1970 Behringer Poly D was the brand that invented it? Moog would probably be criticized and scorned for copying. Ethics, morality, nostalgia, it is only for very old people, people who are old enough to remember all the music B-Funk, Disco funk, MiamiBass, G-funk, First steps of Kraftwerk, Funckadelic, Zap&roger. , Tyrone Downie (The Wailers) Bob Marley never had a minimoog, it was the keyboardist of the band Tyrone Downie who had it... yes, it's a bit for the jazz, black music, Reggae and Dance hall people of In the Years 80, was made of cheap Casio material. Well then I think that when buying an expensive instrument you have to value it as a real instrument, a machine that generates complete analog sounds, without digital interventions for perfect control that greatly influences the character, these 2 pieces are 100% analog. Poly D is a more advanced version to which they added Korg Mono/poly and Juno chorus extras with a 303 drive. Behringer Poly D has the same design as a Moog Voyager (it's a good strategy to break copyrights on the design). The music itself, when making it, forces you to value more what you have as an instrument, no matter how fetish something worth 5,000 or 10,000 dollars is, it will never be like a Poly D and it is a good investment, if you want more functions, tricks and more things that Behringer offers Poly D is the best investment and with the advantage that it will gain a lot of value in the future, being a reverse technology that rescues the analog classics. The arpeggiator and the sequencer are things that you don't have on a Moldel D or a Voyager XL, the sequencer is a very important thing, a tool to create complex melodies, with tricks for interpretation, and then 4-voice paraphony. which you inherit from the Korg Mono/Poly. Poly D allows you to have a minimoog that offers similar chords to the Moog Matriarch, but is actually a transfer from Mono/Poly that you can do arpeggios and ladder sequences with the 4 oscillators with different waveforms and settings. This is the value I give to Poly D, a replica that is a cloned minimoog, but it offers a twist to that classic version that we have known since 1970. The Minimoog is also useful for these things, but it is a very valuable museum piece that with use could lose its aesthetic value and its perfect condition for sale. Minimoog is perfect for collectors and discerning musicians who only trust the original versions. Poly D Definitely a great buy if you do Jazz-Funk, Jamiroquai style acid jazz or anything modern House, Techno, Trap, Electro, Miami Bass, BoomBap bass lines, Avant-Garde for an incredible price which is great. so that young people and fans can relive that era with the same workflow+extras. This was not yet possible in the 2000s. It is truly a great time we live in to access these types of workflows that you can only find on machines with luxury prices.

which of the new moog synths do you think best replicates the sound of the minimoog?

Pretty much the same sound. I am not a sound fetishist, but musical ideas and music and true musical culture yes! For this reason I happily own a Moog one (sound GREAT) and a Boog Model D that is very cool and does not cost a fuck! The poly D is even more comfortable (you can easily carry it on the piano). Bartolomeo Cristofori invented the piano in 1628: the whole world, from that moment on, has produced pianos. I find these invective against Behringer pathetic and sad.

I had the Realistic brand MOOG synth. I used it a lot in my recordings, but honestly, the “MOOG sound” is really only useful for sound effects and spine shattering bass. Unless a performer is a pure virtuoso, I find the MOOG sound to be simply overwhelming. It certainly has a place, but I couldn’t have it as my only synth. I would rather a Sequential if I only could have one synth, they suit my taste more and are more flexible and in my opinion, more musical. But honestly, I might consider getting a Model D, that MOOG bass/tone is unreproducible in any other synth.

Dude, i agree. Synths get better with age. But please do me a favor and remove the plastic from that minimoog, its really destroying the vibe and its tone! ;)

totally different vibes

inspired by the behringer moog Reissue model. not mini moog.

Is this what they mean by a "cork sniffer" ?

I've got both. I've got the Minimoog Voyager and the Behringer Poly D. They both sound fantastic. I have to ask you a serious question though. Are you purposely trying to make the Minimoog sound like crap? I mean you are coaxing the worst sounds out of it! Instead of playing the same programs, you are making the Moog sound Like it's some kind of horrible kids toy! If you are going to compare the two, then compare them with similar sounds!

Honestly it's clear checking the video Moog has more character and is a real analog master synth. Also you need to compare what could be compared so what's the point to pay with the chorus and the arpeggiator. It's exactly the same story as for the Korg MS20 and its new version. I have a D and will never use something else when it comes to analog lead... If a D is 5k today it's not only for collector purpose but because it's better...

If it smelled like skunk I would still own one.

Wth are those repulsive blisters on the Moog????

"Failed to pivot" is a valid economic perspective but not an appropriate way of phrasing the history of why the DX7 killed off companies that made monosynths and other electro-mechanical keyboards. For those companies there wasn't a digital equivalent to the Rhodes, Hammond, Wurlitzer, Clavinet, or analog monos. Asking them to pivot would mean to completely abandon what made them great in the first place. Much to his chagrin, the Minimoog was a pivot from Bob's vision of having an experimental sound laboratory available to a commercially feasible product that could sustain the company.

This is just making noise 😂

i have the minimoog reissue from 2016. it's not just smell, or aura. the keybed, the response of all the controls, the build quality, and YES THE SOUND ITSELF are all so superior that MUSICALLY it is leagues above behringer. gtfoh

Boogs are for kids. If you're a beginning, get a Poly D. Once you understand the difference, you'll want to save up for a real Moog. Personally I think Behringer makes disposable musical toys and steals intellectual property from anywhere they can. Not a fan. They could give a crap about the synthesizer community or the long and honorable history of shared sacrifice people like Tom Oberheim, Bob Moog, Dave Smith and countless others gave to the industry for free. They invented MIDI together on their dime and game it away for free, FFS! I could never imagine Uli doing anything like that. You won't find him at AES. He's an idea thief and a grifter. Just my opinion...

This video is misleading... to make a decent compression you need learn to operate a Minimoog... (like pitch the oscillator to make them sounds right!) its like to take a Ferrari , bump into a tree and then compare it to 200$ car that drive straight... thumbs down!