The Moses Ingram Situation (Reva) - My Response

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2 жыл бұрын

I think it's acceptable to critique a character. It is however, NOT acceptable to berate and bother an actor. This has been done for decades with Hayden Christensen, Jake Lloyd, Ahmed Best and more. I think as Star Wars fans, we have big hearts, and it's time we show that in all aspects.
Life's short, be respectful to one another.
Cya at the next watch party.
May the force be with you.
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@andrewshafferfilms5602
@andrewshafferfilms5602 2 жыл бұрын
You can dislike the character but you can’t spread hate to the actor playing the character they didn’t do anything wrong.
@Raptor14v
@Raptor14v 2 жыл бұрын
EVEN IF you dont like the actor for whatever reason, racial abuse is inexcusable, there is no justification or reasonable explanation for it whatsoever.
@brandontrammel4581
@brandontrammel4581 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@darthprime1010
@darthprime1010 2 жыл бұрын
tbf she is a shit actress but she doesn't deserve racism, sexism or death threats
@Imaminimonstertruck
@Imaminimonstertruck 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if you don't like the character. Disney Star Wars committee already stated that you're automatically a racist if you criticize her in any way. Funny that's Disney Star Wars care about black people yet they paint her as a stereotype angry black woman and let's not forget the shrunk Finn from the poster for China.
@Sumschmuck
@Sumschmuck 2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's Amber Heard
@lukeskywalker5241
@lukeskywalker5241 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how one feels about the character, this behavior in personally attacking the actor is unacceptable. A Jedi uses their power for knowledge and defense, never attack. Here to show support for Moses.
@realobiwan
@realobiwan 2 жыл бұрын
Luke, you are so wise. We should hang out again
@Claego
@Claego 2 жыл бұрын
What a jedi does is go into hiding when they fail. Whether it's Dagobah, Tatooine, or Ach-To. Running away and turning into a hermit is basically part of the Jedi code at this point .
@timbrown1834
@timbrown1834 2 жыл бұрын
@@Claego the ultimate lesson of being a Jedi is letting go
@greedokenobi3855
@greedokenobi3855 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@maul8384
@maul8384 2 жыл бұрын
Yes attack is good
@Thebluedud
@Thebluedud 2 жыл бұрын
As a wise man (my highschool video-editing teacher) once said... Nobody hates Star Wars more than a Star Wars fan.
@mikeexits
@mikeexits Жыл бұрын
I'd word it as "Nobody hates Star Wars more than a fake Star Wars fan" or "Nobody hates Star Wars more than normie posers" or something like that, because obviously tons of Star Wars fans (I believe most but I can't know for sure) love the series to death.
@reishakyu3553
@reishakyu3553 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeexits more like nobody hates disney more than star wars fans
@shep9231
@shep9231 Жыл бұрын
heh heh. His logic is impeccable.
@tonysfishkeeping537
@tonysfishkeeping537 Жыл бұрын
They really are nerds 😂
@jherbranson
@jherbranson Жыл бұрын
Critique is a sign that someone believes in something. It may seem brutal, but it's genuine. Star Wars deserves concerned fans.
@G31M1
@G31M1 2 жыл бұрын
Y‘all remember when Ahsoka was new and so many people were annoyed by her? Now she is one of the most beloved characters
@TiredOfHumans
@TiredOfHumans 2 жыл бұрын
remember they wrote ahsoka to be annoying then grow up through the series
@G31M1
@G31M1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TiredOfHumans That's exactly what I meant. I don't know how people get so pissed about it. Same characters are written to be annoying. Also there is something called character development in Ahsoka's case. It's the same with Obi-Wan. They are mad that he sucks now but it would be one boring show if he would master any challenge right off the bat. Also it would be weird if he still kicks ass just like in Episode III and then almost another decade later he and Vader fight like they are drunk or under the influence with their slow pace final fight.
@clankers8929
@clankers8929 2 жыл бұрын
Well I never found her to be annoying or cliche. Always loved little Soka.
@jaspernietert4395
@jaspernietert4395 2 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka also had multiple seasons to grow and develop as a character where as Reva only has 3 more episodes and then that’s it. Unless there’s a huge time jump and an 80’s training montage for her. It will be hard to recover a poorly written character and it’s sad to see
@davidevans916
@davidevans916 2 жыл бұрын
Pepridge farm remembers
@EmpireFanProductions
@EmpireFanProductions 2 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous. I don’t hate the actress, she only did a job she was told to do, she didn’t write her character. It’s the writers themselves who do the work and then direct the actors. Everyone is being so judgmental before the story is even over. The bullying needs to stop. If a character like Reva is despicable, it’s not Moses’ fault.
@tinoskii
@tinoskii 2 жыл бұрын
Its not bullying its oppression racist Star Wars fans only wanna see whites it's sad
@dj2257
@dj2257 2 жыл бұрын
Agree in part. First off, through 2 episodes, while not bad, the series has been boring so far. Four episodes left so plenty of time to get better (though I have my doubts). Re: Moses Ingram, she has not been good delivering the lines. She comes across as stiff and not intimidating in the least. As much as I think her acting is subpar (though the directing has to take a bit of criticism for that as well), the character has been given some of the worst dialogue that even great acting couldn't save. Ingram didn't help herself by trying to build this character up to being something unique in the Star Wars universe because she's black. Still, that doesn't absolve the small pocket of idiots out there. The problem becomes that, the more you highlight their behavior, the more they'll keep on singing the same song. Best bet is to ignore the trolls/idiots but also be open to true criticism as well. But Disney, STOP trying to paint everyone that has a problem with this character as racist. You look foolish and dishonest doing that.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 жыл бұрын
The problem here is that she can’t defend herself. When people criticised her character she called them racist.
@robitaillecopeland1996
@robitaillecopeland1996 2 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Theory is such a shameless, simping beta.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 жыл бұрын
@@zzodysseuszz and the fans are tired of it. May have worked back with tlj where they tried to call anyone who disliked it racist or sexist.
@marson3000
@marson3000 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t just apply to Star Wars either. Wyatt Russel, the actor who played John Walker (U.S. Agent) in the MCU had so many people harassing him because of the character he played. It’s just sad that people overlook that the actor and the character are NOT the same person.
@jotaux3652
@jotaux3652 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf? For real? I thought he did a good job to make us dislike the character.
@r.e.z9428
@r.e.z9428 2 жыл бұрын
We don't care about that cause he's a straight white male. He doesn't hit any check boxes we can exploit publicly to defend our shows bad writing or characters.
@marson3000
@marson3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@jotaux3652 Yep, there’s lots of toxic fans out there. For some reason these people can’t distinguish a character from an actual person. I don’t know how it’s even possible, but it’s something that happens nowadays.
@the_cheap_ones
@the_cheap_ones 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Eugene on walking dead
@seraphimrand
@seraphimrand 2 жыл бұрын
Or the poor kid who played Joffrey in Game of Thrones
@PROFIRM
@PROFIRM 2 жыл бұрын
Being a SW fan since the 70's this is really disturbing. Makes me ponder what people may have said about Billy Dee back then in the 80's. Moses Ingram is only playing a character that she did not/have a personal connection to. She is doing a good job as her character but it speaks more volumes about some so called SW fans.Smh.
@shep9231
@shep9231 Жыл бұрын
Aye. its sad.
@PhenomResurrections08
@PhenomResurrections08 Жыл бұрын
Theyre a bunch of angry unloved dorks anyway. All of them.
@liamphibia
@liamphibia Жыл бұрын
I guess Disney/Lucasfilm wanted to shield the character and call out fans for being racist and ignore the terrible writing.
@Burner-td4cu
@Burner-td4cu 7 ай бұрын
I think they wouldn’t have really minded. Lando doesn’t take over and become the new Luke skywalker. He’s written as a well rounded character. Although, he was brought in to replace Han if Harrison didn’t wanna come back. And he does end up taking Harrison’s literal outfit by the end of the film lol. But it’s written in a way that makes sense. It doesn’t feel contrived that lando would flee bespin with the rebels on his old ship after Vader kept altering the deal and he betrayed the empire
@whalelord7977
@whalelord7977 2 жыл бұрын
It's okay to not like a character, but harassment of the actor when they're just doing their job is absolutely disgusting. How many times will this happen until we learn this simple lesson.
@shep9231
@shep9231 Жыл бұрын
A lot more times until the masses finally get the hint. I fear.
@Deity_devil
@Deity_devil Жыл бұрын
It’s a never ending cycle with Star Wars fans social media and critics ruined the world for example hayden Christiansen Star Wars fans and critics ruined almost 10 years of his career
@Scolecite
@Scolecite Жыл бұрын
If you don't understand why she is so bad, then what more is there to say?
@MrJonezy541
@MrJonezy541 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that people legitimately can't distinguish between characters and actors is genuinely terrifying.
@birbshid
@birbshid 2 жыл бұрын
Mainly the people judging where the criticism is generally aimed. Whole thing is bait
@j_oe6919
@j_oe6919 2 жыл бұрын
We live in a society:(
@Vlakell4476
@Vlakell4476 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most people live in fantasy worlds today and believe outlandish things to suit their goals. There are many many examples of this. For Example; people still believe to this day JFK wasn't assassinated and believe he's in a retirement home somewhere in the US. It's totally unsuprising people can't distinguish between actor and reality.
@SourBogBubble
@SourBogBubble 2 жыл бұрын
or just be a BETTER Actress. the issue is she sucks.
@arianazfan
@arianazfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiderofthehood6127 Since when?? But the people who didn’t like reva were in fact racist so it’s not like she was wrong about that why do you think they sent her those dms in the first place?
@JayBui21
@JayBui21 2 жыл бұрын
This is how Hayden Christian’s situation was. You should never dislike the actor who displays their character that they embody
@jackfoudray
@jackfoudray 2 жыл бұрын
Is the character meant to be corny? Anakin was a socially awkward kid that didn't have good people skills. His performance was great and made so much sense. She, on the other hand, has a character that is already had some corny lines while also delivering them in strange ways. Since when are we not allowed to dislike actors and actresses for their performances?
@louiejohnston2043
@louiejohnston2043 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackfoudray that’s not even what this is about did you read all the messages she posted?
@Collis77
@Collis77 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackfoudray you can dislike the actors and performances in shows and movies of course, just don’t go out of your way to bully them or throw racial slurs at them in her comment sections for being told to play a character a certain way
@jackfoudray
@jackfoudray 2 жыл бұрын
@@Collis77 Well, if course. I feel like the majority of people that don't like her acting or character aren't doing that though.
@BLASTEMSWORDBOSSAUCE
@BLASTEMSWORDBOSSAUCE 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackfoudray nah most of them are being racist and bullies
@bspitz9
@bspitz9 2 жыл бұрын
So, I’m a lifelong Star Wars fan but let’s start being honest about the fandom. It’s one of the worst out there. This isn’t something new. Star Wars fans regularly attack members of the cast like this. It shouldn’t be glossed over.
@f-drive
@f-drive 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and when called out on it they gave many excuses lol. Maybe some of them are legit, but the way they said it makes my skin crawl to be honest. Just because you dislike something doesn't mean you have to be a dick and toxic about it.
@goonerOZZ
@goonerOZZ Жыл бұрын
I just want to add, that this, all these racist bullying and stuff, they're not exclusive to Star Wars or Sci-Fi/Fantasy fandom. Basically this happens in ALL western based fandom, music, movies, anime, comic, manga, TV series, K-pop, every single pop culture fandom that is western based, they're all like this for almost a decade now This is why I pulled out of many many fandoms I've been a part of, specially those that are western based and just make or join the local ones that is based on my own country. They maybe less informed about many things, but they're more fun than a lot of what the western fan base community at the time being.
@SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy
@SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy Жыл бұрын
This happened with Hayden back then. People will never learn
@AbbaZabbaOlyFrn
@AbbaZabbaOlyFrn Жыл бұрын
The Fandom drove the actor who played Jar-Jar Binks into such a depression he considered suicide. Yeah, hard core SW fans are toxic af
@jaydoody1157
@jaydoody1157 Жыл бұрын
@OlJimJam it’s definitely more than .1%. Just look at theory’s comments and you will see bigotry and hate disguised as a “critique”. I agree that most of them are probably just trolls at this point, but those are the loud, toxic minority that other Star Wars fans get roped into. We will continue to be labeled as toxic until these people no longer care about Star Wars. My suggestion: keep casting women and minorities and eventually the bigots will expose themselves and we can show them the door
@jairusjackson7799
@jairusjackson7799 Жыл бұрын
This is why when people call the Star Wars fandom toxic I don't correct them. This has happened more times with us than any other fandom, the Actor is not responsible for the script if you don't like the character or the way the actor is portraying that character you don't need to go and berate them. It seems so obvious yet it's something that Star Wars fans can't seem to learn😑
@thetrib1
@thetrib1 Жыл бұрын
It happens in other fandoms too, but I just can't stand the wanting to defend an evil minority. Why side with them? Why add to them?
@jairusjackson7799
@jairusjackson7799 Жыл бұрын
@@thetrib1 Didn't need the minority part buddy
@thetrib1
@thetrib1 Жыл бұрын
@@jairusjackson7799 minority is just facts. I don't think it's 51%+ that are evil. Which would make it a minority
@JarlBorg93
@JarlBorg93 Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, you are just blatantly lying.
@thesting6820
@thesting6820 6 ай бұрын
Wrong. The actor decides to accept or reject the script, which deliberately mocks, and abuses Whites. She is complicit in the abuse of Whites.
@Rudster14
@Rudster14 2 жыл бұрын
Remember Ashoka was also written to be "annoying" in the beginning so that her character had room to grow. A perfect character is a boring one
@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131
@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131 2 жыл бұрын
And a bad character is a bad one
@asieduy
@asieduy 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-nd9zf Care to explain what you mean by "ghetto"? Also, why did you choose that specific word?
@jackfoudray
@jackfoudray 2 жыл бұрын
@@asieduy Oh my goodness. Get over yourself. You know what they mean. Stop race bating.
@qarcon3247
@qarcon3247 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-nd9zf wtf haha “ghetto level of obnoxiousness” why do I have the feeling you only said ghetto cos she black
@h0ckeyman136
@h0ckeyman136 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Tigerwolf102onYoutube
@Tigerwolf102onYoutube 2 жыл бұрын
I personally really dislike Reva’s character but dude, why can’t people just dislike something without harassing the actor? Bro chill 😂
@khristianvazquez4540
@khristianvazquez4540 2 жыл бұрын
Because some fans are toxic. Star Wars needs to be their way not a creative way I understand writers being creative can be risky but to hate a actor for the character the writer wrote is ridiculous. Yes I dislike revas character the show would probably be better without her but still it’s not her fault it’s the writers
@olivercastillo5883
@olivercastillo5883 2 жыл бұрын
her character is great villains who are over the top is great if you dislike her that means you dislike palpatine and vader to because they are over the top to
@bsg111987
@bsg111987 2 жыл бұрын
Actors have extensive control in their contracts and portrayals.
@hopeforhobixo5142
@hopeforhobixo5142 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, she's a villain. She's meant to be hated. So I hope you have the same energy for the rest of the villains.
@Doffythegoat
@Doffythegoat 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivercastillo5883 that’s a horrendous argument. Most other villains in Star Wars have a certain demeanor that make u fear and respect their dialogue and whenever they are on screen. Reva hasn’t shown any of that, at least not yet.
@elijahrussjr
@elijahrussjr 2 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I am broken-hearted by this news. The main theme of the entire franchise is overcoming prejudice and embracing difference for a greater good. The best advice I could give to this young woman is do the best you can and let the work speak for itself. I am behind you 100%! Rock on my beautiful black sister!
@shep9231
@shep9231 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@JarlinJamesNDK13
@JarlinJamesNDK13 Жыл бұрын
when was this the theme of star wars ? I believe it was a classic good vs evil story
@jordant889
@jordant889 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@susobamna
@susobamna Жыл бұрын
@@JarlinJamesNDK13 a group of different and diverse characters defeats an evil empire dominated by mostly cis straight white men by choosing pacifism and believing that everybody is good in their hearts. That's star wars
@davewalters6214
@davewalters6214 Жыл бұрын
simple people go with an emotional response at the lowest denominator, racism,sexual orientation,weight,etc.etc. if theyre insulting her because they hate the character then she must have put on a hell of a performance. i just binged the entire series i hate the character and she did indeed put on a hell of a performance. i'd thank her for a fine performance and her hard work.
@KarateWrestler205
@KarateWrestler205 Жыл бұрын
The character sucks because they built it off the arrogant angry black woman trope I’m tired of that shit
@Mr.Burrow
@Mr.Burrow Жыл бұрын
Lol I wish you can say this to every person who's hating on the little mermaid right now
@Mr.Burrow
@Mr.Burrow Жыл бұрын
@@KarateWrestler205 that makes kinda sense but sorry to get off topic but that's what happening to the little mermaid right now, like Halle is playing a nice princess and there still getting mad at it 😞
@GoatLuffy_97
@GoatLuffy_97 2 жыл бұрын
I dislike the Reva character to this point, but that's on the writers and director, not the actor. To rip apart the actor, to bully them, to use racial slurs, is disgusting and has no place in any society.
@einSeev
@einSeev 2 жыл бұрын
Reva is meant to be disliked like Ahsoka in the beginning
@akhilnair1137
@akhilnair1137 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, why is the character disliked?
@einSeev
@einSeev 2 жыл бұрын
@@akhilnair1137 Because she is evil and impulsive and some disney fans can‘t handle a villain
@akhilnair1137
@akhilnair1137 2 жыл бұрын
@@einSeev doesn't stop them from liking vader.
@einSeev
@einSeev 2 жыл бұрын
@@akhilnair1137 Vader is a classic and Reva is a new Villain. + Vader cant be confused with his actor
@solarsauce5983
@solarsauce5983 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly stated, "When are we going to learn?" The writing isn't great, blame the writers, never the actor themselves. I don't care about Reva just like I didn't care about JarJar, but at this stage we have hindsight to know how hurtful targeting an actor can be to their personal lives, it's not the right thing to do, and I really hope people learn from these lessons of the past.
@solarsauce5983
@solarsauce5983 2 жыл бұрын
@@dookula You're right, but distinguishing between a lousy actor and a lousy script/director is difficult for a general audience member to decipher in a show like this... But looking at the rest of the show, consistently the writing and direction is terrible, and so I would hesitate before judging the actor.
@willmarlow97
@willmarlow97 2 жыл бұрын
@@dookula no, the casting directors should be critisized, they're the ones who have the luxury of going through thousands of auditions to get the right actress. even after that, a good director can get a good performance out of a lousy actor
@revanruler6404
@revanruler6404 2 жыл бұрын
@@dookula criticising an actor and insulting them is not the same thing, criticise as much as you want but don't insult people
@gamerbeast3616
@gamerbeast3616 2 жыл бұрын
the writing is fine stfu
@nmz3450
@nmz3450 2 жыл бұрын
People don't realise that Disney makes their characters act like typical Disney villains what do people expect
@honorservice8073
@honorservice8073 2 жыл бұрын
I'm literally coming here to figure out what is going on with the whole Moses thing. I didn't know people were ripping her apart because her star wars character. I truly thought people were ripping her apart because she tweeted something. Turns out she didnt, and even if she did send out a mean tweet who cares. People need to chill out these days.
@Brismo7
@Brismo7 2 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt be surprised if the mean tweets were coming from Disney themselves as a false Flag attack.
@marcusp5828
@marcusp5828 2 жыл бұрын
I’m satisfied with Reva after 3 episodes. Personally, I like the characters vengeful and impotent attitude. It’s beyond me why someone would speak bad of someone who’s paid to act a role they didn’t write. When episode two showcased Anakin‘s cringey, “I can’t breathe” scene, my first thought was, “George! What are you doing man?!” It had nothing to do with Hayden who I thought played a stellar character. Lucasfilm isn’t put together very well…one only needs to look at the head there. However, the actors are amazing. Good talk Theory
@kintsugikame
@kintsugikame 2 жыл бұрын
bruhh I don’t get the hate, she’s literally everything a sith is supposed to be. lol any time I create a dark side character in a star wars game I swear their personality is exactly like hers.
@DaroZuo
@DaroZuo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kintsugikame nah man, she is just as bland, uninspiring and unmenacing as Kylo Ren was. Very poorly written character.
@enriquecoronajr
@enriquecoronajr 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaroZuo kind of agree there. Kylo was a good guy trying to be bad and he came off as too much in areas
@JuanCastillo-gh8bk
@JuanCastillo-gh8bk Жыл бұрын
@@enriquecoronajr Kylo is still the best part of the sequels for sure. Some day, kids will come out, who love the sequels and grew up with them. Just like the prequels, they will claim they’re unjustly hated, and actually pretty good. This is a horrible circle of hatred.
@enriquecoronajr
@enriquecoronajr Жыл бұрын
@@JuanCastillo-gh8bk true they all have there good and bad
@Milothemighty10
@Milothemighty10 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand why people harass the actor I mean what are you gaining from it? Even as someone who hates the sequels with a passion I really feel bad about for some of the actors…
@DefeaterMann
@DefeaterMann 2 жыл бұрын
READ MY NAME!!! !
@royalreviews5270
@royalreviews5270 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I might dislike the characters, but I don't dislike the actors who portray them. I think people can't differentiate between fiction and real
@levampblaze6312
@levampblaze6312 2 жыл бұрын
@@royalreviews5270 exactly.
@clancypollard1474
@clancypollard1474 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't like the sequels. But I like the actors. Daisy Ridley is a great actress and played Rey well, it's the character that wasn't very great
@DigAPig
@DigAPig 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if anything it should be directed towards the writers not the actors but at the same time there is a difference between criticism and harassment
@SavageAppOfficial
@SavageAppOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe people take the time to send messages like that...pretty despicable.
@roguescorner9042
@roguescorner9042 2 жыл бұрын
People have way too much time on their hands. And if not, they will always make time to spread all that hate.
@BlackWingedSeraphX
@BlackWingedSeraphX 2 жыл бұрын
The Internet is a coward's paradise. Hence why racists are so bold. They can throw rocks and hide behind a computer screen.
@lolmetswhathappeneduhhh2029
@lolmetswhathappeneduhhh2029 2 жыл бұрын
The Star Wars fandom is unfortunately notorious for being extremely toxic like that.
@changlouriousbasterd9524
@changlouriousbasterd9524 2 жыл бұрын
They get off on the attention. She basically fed right into what they wanted.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 жыл бұрын
@@changlouriousbasterd9524 yep. Anyone who sent a death threat is now more encouraged cause they know it got to her even a little bit.
@laurareed8412
@laurareed8412 Жыл бұрын
“You’re not serving Vader…. You’re hunting him……” 😳 I love Reva, and now we’re all wondering were she went and what she did after this series ended.
@Burner-td4cu
@Burner-td4cu 7 ай бұрын
Actually I forgot she even existed. I was watching fight scenes from kenobi and saw this video. Then I remembered she was the main character of this show 😂 v forgettable character
@zedriclee3855
@zedriclee3855 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad your video exists, there’s very few that discuss this in the same light. Thank you for being vocal!
@ChillerWasLost
@ChillerWasLost 2 жыл бұрын
The "annoying" aspect of Reva was completely made by the writer not her. And people also forget that it has only been 2 episodes. Ahsoka was the same way at the beginning of the Clone Wars, but everyone loves Ahsoka now. People need to learn to let character development take its place, and that its not the actor who made that character, it was the writer.
@Shawn.Mathew
@Shawn.Mathew 2 жыл бұрын
Only difference is that the leaks are proving a lot of fans right so far when it comes to the criticism of reva, but I’m not condoning the attacks on her personally
@MehrdadParthian
@MehrdadParthian 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shawn.Mathew exactly. we already knew Reva's redemption arc might be the Show's main story based on the leaks, and the first two episodes have only served to strengthen those leaks' claims !
@makisbizarreadventure4669
@makisbizarreadventure4669 2 жыл бұрын
@@MehrdadParthian okay and that’s her fault how?? Cause not all of those leaks are correct and we’re getting plenty of time with Obi
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade 2 жыл бұрын
She's a bad actor.
@makisbizarreadventure4669
@makisbizarreadventure4669 2 жыл бұрын
@@OpinionParade How many Oscar nominations do you have? Cause she has one more than you. You can blame the actor all you want but it’s the director that tells them how they should be acting. Exactly what was bad about her? Because her scene with Owen was good. What did she do, as an actress in two episodes with less than 30 minutes screen time, show she was bad?
@thorodinson1933
@thorodinson1933 2 жыл бұрын
Jake, Ahmed, Hayden, John, Kelly, Daisy, Moses, and even Vivien who’s playing young Leia…. People in the Star Wars fandom have a real talent for bullying actors online when they don’t like how a character is being written. As if it’s their fault
@claptonthegreat2056
@claptonthegreat2056 2 жыл бұрын
Fr it’s disgusting how people go after a literal child. What has the Star Wars fandom become?
@moises.305
@moises.305 2 жыл бұрын
Full grown Neckbeards along with kids from his own school almost bullied Jake to suicide. Horrible.
@roxtechs
@roxtechs 2 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is bullying Vivien?!?
@thehiddenone2875
@thehiddenone2875 2 жыл бұрын
Vivien plays Leia to perfection
@Onionex369
@Onionex369 2 жыл бұрын
Why bullying young Leia imo she did a great job potrying her
@MichaelDouglas-24
@MichaelDouglas-24 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the fact that she's in the show. She belongs there. I just wish George was there, to make her character MEAN more and be a better overall character. More memorable if you could say
@curtisparsons4473
@curtisparsons4473 Жыл бұрын
Everyone says “well that’s not us I wouldn’t do that. The fandom isn’t toxic!!!” But it keeps happening again and again and again…
@JesseColton
@JesseColton 10 ай бұрын
Almost like the fandom is absolutely toxic.
@Thiago_Alves_Souza
@Thiago_Alves_Souza 8 ай бұрын
It's pretty telling that instead of holding their own Fandom accountable for its ills, the first thing people do is respond like an immature 5 year old trying to evade any accountability; "it was Tommy, dad! Not me!" And when you Do tell them to hold these people accountable, they say it's bots, or they did a false flag or it's just a minority. It doesn't matter if it is all 3, the fact people don't condemn this and make an effort not to do so, is pretty telling. If it turns out to be made up, we need the evidence rather than conspiracy theories.
@JesseColton
@JesseColton 8 ай бұрын
@@Thiago_Alves_Souza It's exactly like religious people when you try to talk about the harm religious institutions do and they go "Well they aren't a REAL church! They aren't REAL Christians!"
@Mekerakesh
@Mekerakesh 2 жыл бұрын
Personally attacking an actor is so incredibly scummy and makes me sad to be apart of this fandom at times.
@kenXtripleI
@kenXtripleI 2 жыл бұрын
Hate the character not the actor playing the part is the way to go about it
@larrygill2223
@larrygill2223 2 жыл бұрын
Hayden went thru this for over a decade!
@youcanthandlemyname7393
@youcanthandlemyname7393 2 жыл бұрын
not me. i dont consider them representative of the fandom and think doing so gives them too much power and makes them too important. why should i feel guilty and or ashamed of being a part of a fandom that's 99 percent good people and one percent scum. they should be the ones feeling ashamed for being part of the 1 percent that is scum.
@jolyne2516
@jolyne2516 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let forget what they did to Hayden Christensen or Mary Kelly Tran
@Mekerakesh
@Mekerakesh 2 жыл бұрын
Dislike? I understand, but how can you fundamentally hate something you saw on screen for a grand total of 15 minutes? Really that strong of an opinion in 15 minutes?
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 жыл бұрын
We're LUCKY Hayden decided to come back. We're LUCKY he decided to give Star Wars another shot as Anakin Skywalker. After what he went through FROM THE FANDOM of their OWN VOLITION he would've been completely justified in never coming back. If Ashley Eckstein decided to no longer voice Ahsoka Tano she would've been justified; yes SHE received hate too for Ahsoka. And then Tano probably would've been killed off and never become the character we know and love. I wouldn't be surprised if Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Adam Driver, Kelly Marie Tran, Oscar Isaac, NEVER came back. If you do not LEARN FROM YOUR HISTORY YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT. And we are not learning since we see this already with Moses Ingram and little Vivien Lyra Blair. Why go after a CHILD because you don't like how the CHARACTER is written? Why be RACIST because you don't like the character? Does that make you feel big and bad? We have to do better. In case you feel called out by Star Wars ' defense of Moses Ingram: Good. You're probably exactly who needs to hear it.
@kenaboss4527
@kenaboss4527 2 жыл бұрын
well said
@alessandrobispoavelar519
@alessandrobispoavelar519 2 жыл бұрын
This ^
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE 2 жыл бұрын
I swear!! Hit it right out the park!!
@truefallenangel
@truefallenangel 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put!
@bastard342
@bastard342 2 жыл бұрын
Yes mommy
@MontoyaVision
@MontoyaVision 2 жыл бұрын
There's no room for racism. I will say my initial reaction was the character seems forced. She seems like a great person and is a great actress.
@Peedarb
@Peedarb Жыл бұрын
I don't believe any Star wars fans are racist, these are trolls and Larpers, I know because those same fans LOVED Ahsoka Tano, loved Moff Gideon, and loved Leia and Landon... BECAUSE WE LOVE WELL WRITTEN CHARACTERS THAT ADD TO THE STORY.
@BrotherhoodWorkshop
@BrotherhoodWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping it classy dude. I strongly dislike Reva as a character (I think she is written very badly, but I'll withhold judgment till the show is finished), but that is in no way the actress's fault. If anything, she's the biggest victim of the situation. She gets offered a breakout starring role in freaking Star Wars and then is handed an annoying unlikable character to portray. That would be so horribly disappointing.
@tylerad90
@tylerad90 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she probably wasn’t the best fit for the role (and the writing really doesn’t help) but it’s not her fault they put her on screen. I think her acting makes the character even worse, but that’s not her fault. It’s the show runners. Criticisms should be aimed behind the camera, not in front
@ovni2295
@ovni2295 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the dislike for Reva is actually an intentional part of the character's design. She even annoys her coworkers. It's like she has big Wrestling Heel energy. I want to see where they go with it.
@Mikeyonte
@Mikeyonte 2 жыл бұрын
She’s written fine the whole point of her character is to be unlikable and the fact you dislike her is proof of good writing
@christianporter3638
@christianporter3638 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself. The color of her skin (or in the SW universe, alien race) is utterly irrelevant. So kudos for recognizing that too!
@gabrielsosa7765
@gabrielsosa7765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mikeyonte Finally someone said it.
@SheevPalps868
@SheevPalps868 2 жыл бұрын
The more this happens, the more actors won’t want to return. And it also gives the Star Wars fanbase a bad look. Those idiots sending her hate wouldn’t even dare say it to her face. They’re just cowards behind a screen.
@tg5590
@tg5590 2 жыл бұрын
@John Pershing someone had to say it!!!
@tefazDK
@tefazDK 2 жыл бұрын
And honestly might even be kids and young teens. Those are the people in this world with the least amount of filters or manners. And it's not always obvious how old the people in those dms are. If it's grown ass men though then extra shame on them.
@drip671
@drip671 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@SheevPalps868
@SheevPalps868 2 жыл бұрын
@John Pershing I don’t know about you, but I think sending someone racist abuse all because you don’t like their acting or character is pretty cowardly and a shitty thing to do.
@drip671
@drip671 2 жыл бұрын
@John Pershing nah you one of those cowards i see
@jonathanmthomas2728
@jonathanmthomas2728 Жыл бұрын
After the most recent episode, Reva and her character arc has grown on me. As a side note, Moses Ingram is a talented and beautiful actress and there's no need to attack her.
@_ripVanWinkle_
@_ripVanWinkle_ Жыл бұрын
Real shit
@juancabardo21
@juancabardo21 2 жыл бұрын
“If you hate the villain so bad that you hate the actor, the actor deserves an award.” -some guy
@jjmeyers2408
@jjmeyers2408 2 жыл бұрын
The bad thing is this could turn off so many great actors from performing in Star Wars for fear of stuff like this happening if this continues. Thank you Theory for denouncing this animalistic behavior
@Stuwi
@Stuwi 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be surprised if its not already a known thing around the industry. So many actors have been bullied to an awful extent after getting a star wars role...
@malignm1857
@malignm1857 2 жыл бұрын
That ship is already long gone. Star Wars fans nit pick on everything. No talented actor would even bother to go into a call casting. The MCU gets great talented actors because fans know how to enjoy what they have.
@stoheha
@stoheha 2 жыл бұрын
It really is baffling. I hated the sequel trilogy and at most I've commented in communities like these to vent, but reaching out to an actor with threats is ridiculous. Not seeking to be divisive, but why do I get the feeling the most hateful folks are coming from the channels like Nerdrotic, Geeks + Gamers, etc.? These creators live on the outrage of their fans and go rabid any time there is any kind of attempt to diversify casting. Frankly, it's childish and makes me concerned about the fanbase when I see the kind of comments they foment.
@kenaboss4527
@kenaboss4527 2 жыл бұрын
100% actors are going to see this and not want to be apart of star wars in fear of getting unnecessary hate and eventually star wars will have trouble finding actors
@iljagro772
@iljagro772 2 жыл бұрын
@@malignm1857 yeah and because they get payed a lot, and don't forget that marvel actors get the same bad treatment like the star wars ones. Actors are in the mcu because it is popular and can give you a career boost.
@darthanakin7331
@darthanakin7331 2 жыл бұрын
It's not her fault that her character was annoying and like theory said a couple days ago don't blame the actor,blame the script
@cptpepper7731
@cptpepper7731 2 жыл бұрын
Both the script, direct and actress are to blame.
@glane3962
@glane3962 2 жыл бұрын
She needs to show proof of her harassment. It’s not like she came out in an article right before Kenobi was released stating Lucasfilm warned her of online hate. Almost as if a defense was being set up against valid criticism of a character who is focused on more than Kenobi himself.
@keegan3839
@keegan3839 2 жыл бұрын
It is her fault worst actress in Hollywood
@cdulez
@cdulez 2 жыл бұрын
@@glane3962 all the proof is on her instagram
@amazeseries9624
@amazeseries9624 2 жыл бұрын
She isn’t that annoying, she is just relentless? Just because she is out to get characters we are bias for dosnt make her annoying.
@RAE-uf6sv
@RAE-uf6sv Жыл бұрын
I personally think that Mose Ingram did an amazing job! She fits the characters so well like it was tailored to her specifically! And I love Reva just as much! People are saying they dislike the character but I think she fits into Star Wars perfectly! Good Job to Moses Ingram! The hate is just so wrong!
@kdizzle901
@kdizzle901 Жыл бұрын
The character sucks and she should have died sacrificing herself not surviving just so they can obviously give her a spin-off but the hate for the actress is ridiculous
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 Жыл бұрын
How much did Disney pay you to write this?
@RAE-uf6sv
@RAE-uf6sv Жыл бұрын
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 I personally HATE Disney and what they have done to Star Wars! The prequels are my favorite movies and to see Kenobi getting hate makes me sick after what happened with the prequels! I am no Disney fan! I just feel terrible for Moses Ingram!
@iknowilookdumbwhenisaythis1620
@iknowilookdumbwhenisaythis1620 2 жыл бұрын
When people start hating a actor for how dislikeable their character is(in a good way) that just shows you how good of an actor and how many people are emotionally invested in reva
@Kale13000
@Kale13000 2 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda dumb how people take this stuff out on the actors. A lot of times the actors play the characters to the best of their ability. They can’t exactly change how a character is written, that’s on the directors and writers. Besides, if you’re going to complain about studios bullying people, which they do, don’t do it back
@mruziicak
@mruziicak 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's the internet man. This is always expected.
@zomish13
@zomish13 2 жыл бұрын
People who attacked Jack Gleason and Lena Headey as if they were the horrible characters they portrayed. In actual fact they should be praising them for being such amazing actors for being so convincing not hate on them because you can't separate the fiction from real life.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 жыл бұрын
Are any of these people legitimate or are we just dealing with crazies? You know there are millions if not billions on the internet right? And people get off on hurting people and sending death threats? If any of these were valid and not anonymous accounts I would like to see it.
@velociraptor3313
@velociraptor3313 2 жыл бұрын
@@zomish13 A friend of mine actually met Jack Gleason at a convention, from what my friend told me he's a great bloke. And when he played Joffrey in Game Of Thrones, he did a phenomenal job. I don't like Disney Star Wars but people should seriously tell the difference between the character and the actor, constructive criticism and objectivity are good, think rationally and for goodness sake don't let emotion cloud judgement. And if you are offended then I recommend get off the internet and go outside. Maybe go for a walk or listen to classical music or read a book or hangout with a friend. Sorry for the long comment but just thought I'd offer my thoughts on the matter.
@keenanfarago6882
@keenanfarago6882 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bruh, we only have 2 ep, shes so annoying i think shes gonna end up getting slaughted by vader or some shit, like i think shes purposely annoying, weve only seen her character twice.
@kingseany94
@kingseany94 2 жыл бұрын
People are assholes. She's literally playing a fictional character that someone else wrote. People just don't understand at all.
@redraccoon6976
@redraccoon6976 2 жыл бұрын
She’s also only had 2 episodes so far lol. Star Wars fans suck sometimes
@robdon3472
@robdon3472 2 жыл бұрын
@the reason calm down, the character isn't destroying anything. Please, for your own mental health, care less about this
@austinkoeppen6122
@austinkoeppen6122 2 жыл бұрын
@the reason in what way has Reva destroyed anything? The potential is there for Reva to fuck shit up, but we're 2 episodes in and it's fine.
@Orbitalbomb
@Orbitalbomb 2 жыл бұрын
literally? the misuse of this word is so annoying. but I agree it’s disgusting people can’t stfu with their racism and Trump fostered that.
@crimsontv123
@crimsontv123 2 жыл бұрын
@the reason please stop.. and get some help
@stratometal
@stratometal 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for saying this. Now I want to write the actress a love letter and thank her for a good job! The character is written as an antagonist, and she is doing a great job pushing that across. Props to her for making us feel the way we are supposed to feel about one of the villains of the show. Not many actors or actresses can play bad guys, its much harder! I want to know more about Reva, I'm super intrigued, is she going to turn back to the light? Is she going to end stomped by Vader? Is she playing the long con? Anyway thanks for the video and always for your wisdom and maturity regarding such topics. Cheers
@3XILEts
@3XILEts Жыл бұрын
I loved Reva in the show and Moses did great. Reva represents the Star Wars fandom in a way. Obsessed with Kenobi and wanting Vader’s respect.
@davidmartinez539
@davidmartinez539 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re reacting to this. Like the character or not, shit like this is not okay.
@DefeaterMann
@DefeaterMann 2 жыл бұрын
READ MY NAME!!!! !
@andreoliveira191
@andreoliveira191 2 жыл бұрын
Theory is a good guy. Other channels have just been criticizing Lucasfilm for defending Moses without acknowledging this DM's she received.
@fritz5940
@fritz5940 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreoliveira191 for me its not her character part id hate on her for its the statement she made saying how reva is better than vader thats stupid asf
@TheMelancholicWriter
@TheMelancholicWriter 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreoliveira191 I’m guessing Quartering is supporting the harassment?
@andreoliveira191
@andreoliveira191 2 жыл бұрын
@@fritz5940 She has said some dumb stuff, yes. We can criticize her and her character, which I dont like. But harassing is just wrong.
@darkjedi9188
@darkjedi9188 2 жыл бұрын
It makes no sense to come after an actor because of a character they portray.
@austinkoeppen6122
@austinkoeppen6122 2 жыл бұрын
The character isn't even bad
@gavynedelman3605
@gavynedelman3605 2 жыл бұрын
W comment
@SGTRandleOneOne
@SGTRandleOneOne 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@wynter_solstice
@wynter_solstice 2 жыл бұрын
gotta love star wars ‘fans’! who bullyed hayden christensen, kelly marie tran, daisy ridley, jake lloyd and so many others way from star wars, because they didnt like their characters! not because they acted awfully but because the fat neckbearded ‘fans’ like to bully
@DefeaterMann
@DefeaterMann 2 жыл бұрын
READ MY NAME!!!! !
@theoacean
@theoacean 2 жыл бұрын
As a military veteran her character and the way she acts reminds me of female drill instructor. And honestly to me the female drill instructors were much scarier than the male ones lol. I think her acting fits the character perfectly because the empire is a fascist military. Some of the lines are cringe or out if place sure, but that's more on the writers of the show and not so much on her in my opinion. I personally "buy" her more as an inquisitor than the other 2. The grand inquisitor acts like a captain or colonel would since his demeanor is way more proper which also fits his character in the show very well.
@theoacean
@theoacean 2 жыл бұрын
Especially that scene with uncle Owen gave me flashbacks of when a female drill instructor is all up in your face taunting you calmy and hoping you'd make a move or say something disrespectful so they'd have an excuse to haze the ever living shit out of you. it really does capture the essence of how that feels in real life for me personally at least.
@jimmyrecard6021
@jimmyrecard6021 2 жыл бұрын
to me it feels super forced (no pun intended) that she is a BLACK women with power not a powerful women that happens to be black. like they make her way too powerful and evil, yet she has the cringiest lines. poor writing.
@theoacean
@theoacean 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyrecard6021 idk I guess we disagree. But that's ok. Everyone has different taste. To me her lines and delivery are very human and believable. But I guess that's the problem since we're supposed to be in outerdpace lol. I get it.
@jimmyrecard6021
@jimmyrecard6021 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoacean yeah i'm not trashing the actor, it's the writers that have done it poorly. There is no mystique to her character. we aren't even meant to know the inquisitors name, yet we know Revas. and she has no special connection to any other characters, like she was dreamed up at the last second.
@theoacean
@theoacean 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyrecard6021 ok yeah I do agree that she seems way too important when the show is supposed to be about Obi-wan and Darth Vader. I wish they would focus on those two more and not make them side characters in their own show.
@suitepee555
@suitepee555 Жыл бұрын
Much respect to you for speaking reason into such a troubled world.
@karmadyllic
@karmadyllic 2 жыл бұрын
"How is this evolving me as a person?" A concept to live by. Well handled sir.
@shep9231
@shep9231 Жыл бұрын
Indeed sir. :)
@TheLonelyGoomba
@TheLonelyGoomba 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad cos people got mad at Lucas Film pre-emptively warning her about this. And then it happened anyway. So I guess they were right.
@risistince
@risistince 2 жыл бұрын
They warned her because they knew they made her character an awful piece of shit that most people wouldn't like. Folks didn't hate Moff Gideon from Mandolorian.
@godlikemachine645
@godlikemachine645 2 жыл бұрын
@@risistince they made her character *annoying*. Moff Gideon's character wasn't annoying.
@Rockden
@Rockden 2 жыл бұрын
@@risistince Isn't that the point? They made her like that on purpose. Look at how Ashoka started in The Clone Wars.
@TheLonelyGoomba
@TheLonelyGoomba 2 жыл бұрын
@@risistince I mean, when I don't like a character I don't take it out on the actor. That and I think people are massively over blowing their issues with Reva.
@joeyskywalker1322
@joeyskywalker1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rockden No one is more toxic to Star Wars then Star Wars fan and difference between Ashoka and Reva is Ashoka was a child so her being annoying was understandable it feels like Reva character was written to be disliked and annoying but what she do makes no sense
@RensStoryteller
@RensStoryteller Жыл бұрын
It's to a point where I'm pretty close to leaving the Fandom. I love Star Wars, but in the Fandom toxicity and bigotry are so common that you get attacked for not being so. It's heartbreaking that I can honestly think "if this shit is the norm for us, I'm out" about the fandom of my favorite sci-fi world.
@MC32595
@MC32595 Жыл бұрын
oh for sure, you regularly get attacked for having an idea, as well. I remember getting attacked on twitter by “fans” who were mad when I suggested it would be cool to see mace windu return to the stars wars universe.
@drrickmarshall1191
@drrickmarshall1191 Жыл бұрын
@@MC32595 To be fair it's about time a Star Wars character actually stayed dead.
@Nakeethus_Hunter
@Nakeethus_Hunter Жыл бұрын
@@drrickmarshall1191 Indeed... Since Filoni decided to resurrect Maul, SW characters have had issues with staying dead
@joshuadesautels
@joshuadesautels 2 жыл бұрын
"It unites humanity in a way no one ever thought possible when they realize they're not alone in the universe."
@beastwizard1741
@beastwizard1741 2 жыл бұрын
When "fans" direct their anger and frustration at an actor for a character they played, it is never excusable. I personally don't care for the character she's playing in Obi-Wan, but then again, there's still 4 episodes left to go! Ahsoka was annoying at first, too. But leave the actors alone! We've seen this happen to children and I cannot wrap my head around how anyone thinks it's acceptable to target children.
@chessygrind9223
@chessygrind9223 2 жыл бұрын
You do realize Disney is the one who started this, right?
@trixelpix1
@trixelpix1 2 жыл бұрын
@@chessygrind9223 they literally said font be racist. Unlike when it came to sequels they didn't point fingers at the Fandom, they just showed support for one if their own. Hoe is that the same as what Kathleen Kennedy treated the Fandom like. To say it's the same is nothing more then blind support for ideas that once had merrit but don't anymore.
@NapoleonBonaparteMAGA
@NapoleonBonaparteMAGA 2 жыл бұрын
She's admitted to never seen the movies, her lack of homework and privilege is disrespectful to the fans and the IP.
@alrongar7376
@alrongar7376 2 жыл бұрын
I agree people used to hate ahsoka because she was annoying , but people dont understand that she was suposed to be so she could grow out of It. Now i could be wrong about reva and she might just stay as she is but we still dont know that and if that were to happen i wouldnt blame the actress for doing her job
@magmacubeking
@magmacubeking 2 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonBonaparteMAGA Those still are not reasons to harass someone, are they? We're still talking about *media* ; if people feel so offended by fictional media that they go out of their way to spew horrible racist stuff at someone, those people are still the problem. No matter how "disrespectful" someone is towards the fandom by not having watched the movies.
@grant2989
@grant2989 2 жыл бұрын
She’s doing a great job of making a dislikable character dislikable. That’s what the character is there for lol she’s doing exactly what she’s supposed to do
@pointyfingers
@pointyfingers 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the point of a villain. She didn't great.
@KoljaBeckmann_music
@KoljaBeckmann_music 2 жыл бұрын
Nah she is just to likeable as a person for a darkside main villain... she should have played a Jedi, thats the problem. And her acting pales in comparison to Ewans, OK given that Ewan is a genius..... But she saying "Oooobi Wan" almost made laugh, but certainly not feal fear. Racist comments are totally inacceptable though. Make her a Jedi, then no one will have a reason to complain. The name Reva already indicates that.
@grant2989
@grant2989 2 жыл бұрын
@@KoljaBeckmann_music I’m sure she will have some sort of redemption in this series. That’s where I see it going at least
@LodedKingpiin
@LodedKingpiin 2 жыл бұрын
@@KoljaBeckmann_music exactly she came off super likable in all of the press for it
@harrymcdougall7923
@harrymcdougall7923 2 жыл бұрын
@@KoljaBeckmann_music exactly, with vader for example a lot of the fan base gets goosebumps just by him being present in a room & while yeah vader is an extraordinarily hard evil character to top, with disney’s budget they should be able to get someone who can atleast write better lines and deliveries for her script or as you said cast her for a different role perhaps even a jedi
@andrewporcelli4156
@andrewporcelli4156 Жыл бұрын
Star Wars theory: “as Star Wars fans were so much classier than that” Star Wars fans: “you underestimate my power!”
@llbennyd
@llbennyd Жыл бұрын
She said it. Acknowledging idiots makes it worse
@AnnoyingNerdLoL
@AnnoyingNerdLoL 2 жыл бұрын
This shit happens all the time and I feel so bad for all the actors. I have literally no respect for these people, it's just pathetic. All my support goes out to Moses.
@wanyekest6969
@wanyekest6969 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly though. I thought this time around some of the Star Wars fans would come to logic and learn, but it does not seem so. I’m not too big of a fan, but I almost feel ashamed to even be a fan because of this nonstop shit.
@BroughtCat
@BroughtCat 2 жыл бұрын
Happened to Hayden Christensen, Andrew Garfield and Jared Leto for years and no one said a god damn word despite being harassed and threatened for just playing a fictional character. But here comes Moses and we shed all our tears for her, complete B.S
@scottschulz9153
@scottschulz9153 2 жыл бұрын
@@BroughtCat just because you lived under a rock for the past 15 years doesnt mean the shit didnt happen. Hayden faced the same shit. Actress who played Rose got driven off of social media. Open your eyes.
@grunsoul50
@grunsoul50 2 жыл бұрын
Im honestly not suprised by this, people never change. My heart goes out to Moses
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 жыл бұрын
You mean there will always be crazies on the internet? Yeah, not much to do about random crazies.
@dancemt1573
@dancemt1573 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardrichtofen8530 no Star Wars is out of the most toxic fandom that complain about everything…
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 жыл бұрын
@@dancemt1573 bullshit. Star Wars fans don’t complain for the sake of it. If there has been a lot of complaints from Star Wars fans blame Disney for making subpar Star Wars. Furthermore, you have actual proof they are a toxic fan base or is that just what Disney and the media say? Cause I have had many internet and in life discussions of Star Wars and have yet to meet these kkk members and wife beaters I am told the Star Wars fan base is full of.
@jordant889
@jordant889 Жыл бұрын
She seems like an awesome person. I hope this doesn't knock her down too hard, because she gave a solid performance and should be proud of it. Keep going hon
@MD0093
@MD0093 2 жыл бұрын
Your response is exactly what I told my buddies I’m tech school. And now they get the fault is the writers and director not the actors
@robotnerd1398
@robotnerd1398 2 жыл бұрын
This is disgusting. In no way was this Moses fault. She didn't develop the character. She didn't write the dialogue. It was the writers who did all this and told Moses how to act out the character. Even if the character development is that bad, blame it on anyone but Moses.
@JonathanGaeta
@JonathanGaeta 2 жыл бұрын
It’s never the actor/actress’ fault. Whoever writes or directs any characters need a bit of criticism, but not extreme criticism towards them
@RJ_200
@RJ_200 2 жыл бұрын
People are literally saying this because she doesn't seem to be doing a good job with the acting...
@RJ_200
@RJ_200 2 жыл бұрын
@Theseus yep exactly they literally told her before that people were gonna be racist and hate on her when its like 5 people doing that they just can't except that they have ruined the francise and their characters are bad....
@Tobiasagain
@Tobiasagain 2 жыл бұрын
@Theseus I think the point is that there are fans attacking the actor for the writing of the character. When it comes to arrogant, impatient and short tempered live action characters, there’s not really a way to act that character out without being cringe. Not even the best of actors can act it out to look good.
@metalassassin8841
@metalassassin8841 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it? She called the fans racist before the show even fking aired?! The fk she thought will happen? Her acting is bad, the writing is also bad.
@the_monstah6378
@the_monstah6378 2 жыл бұрын
People bullied Jake Lloyd, Ahmed Best, Hayden Christensen, John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Kelly Marie Tran, hell people even bullied George Lucas. It is sad that we have come so far and yet so many people act the same way. It’s alright to dislike a character but it’s never okay to break down the actor who plays them. They’re simply doing what their told and it’s never up to them what the character says or does. It’s not their fault. So many people want to like Star Wars but feel a sense of distaste and hatred from the fanbase and it ultimately discourages them. We as a fanbase ( and I know it’s not everybody ) need to mature and move on from things. So that people who want to enjoy the franchise and the ones who are a part of it can live peacefully.
@anthonyarmento1349
@anthonyarmento1349 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kmitura
@kmitura 2 жыл бұрын
True, but let's be honest she's just bad actress. And it feels like she got the role only because she was black. No I'm not hating or being racist. I just tell my opinion about actor skills. Btw one of my fav actors is Morgan Freeman so butthurt gen Z kids go away.
@anthonyarmento1349
@anthonyarmento1349 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmitura and your initialed to your opinion and you can hate actors but you cant just bully her because you dont like her as an actor you know and thats what is really getting people mad
@mudrsa
@mudrsa 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmitura I agree with and they don't understand this. This actor is leading people in a different direction by doing whataboutism because she doesn't say why they are criticizing her. On the contrary; By equating those who criticize her with these racists, she creates a perception as if everyone who criticizes her is a racist. That's pathetic...
@SlyTF1
@SlyTF1 2 жыл бұрын
That's no fun.
@thestickyspot1297
@thestickyspot1297 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like she should get a second chance with the character with a better script, I don’t know really who the actress is but her character was written so poorly.
@Michael-ih2hl
@Michael-ih2hl Жыл бұрын
It hurts me to hear she has to deal with this now. So ugly. Also, she's part of the Star Wars family now.
@darthwitchakorn1027
@darthwitchakorn1027 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a big fan of her character. But attacking the actress is absolutely unacceptable
@randalthekidd7006
@randalthekidd7006 2 жыл бұрын
Yup bad things are bad that’s the world. The entire convo is simply a deflection from the shitty quality of the show
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 2 жыл бұрын
@@randalthekidd7006 the show is great and reva is decent
@treichfra8428
@treichfra8428 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get my mind wrapped around how these bullies who purport to be fans of Star Wars could so radically miss the basic messages of Star Wars …
@operatorchakkoty4257
@operatorchakkoty4257 2 жыл бұрын
That we have a bad feeling about this?
@willfrancescofini
@willfrancescofini 2 жыл бұрын
the basic message of Lucas’ Star Wars (Eps 1-6) is 100% love. Love is the “balance” in the force between Jedi and Sith that the Chosen One (Skywalker and his descendants) was meant to restore
@O1OO1O1
@O1OO1O1 2 жыл бұрын
Happens all the time with Trek. I don't even get why they even like the show. I think for some, it's an escape from who and what they are.
@bspoon2529
@bspoon2529 2 жыл бұрын
@@O1OO1O1 exactly my wife and i talk about this all the time… sci fi is all about people who don’t look or think the same working together because it’s supposed to give us hope for the future etc
@RealRealDemocracyDiscourse
@RealRealDemocracyDiscourse 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the character is beyond mid and an obvious hire to check off a box
@Melissa-qg8ed
@Melissa-qg8ed 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing to say in situations like this is “reasonable minds can disagree” Because only unreasonable minds can not
@mactire2702
@mactire2702 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Reva is a good character if you can see how/why she is similar to Anakin in that they were both complete outsiders in their institutions, BOTH of them had to try harder and prove more to be successful. It's very obvious Vader has a certain soft spot for Reva. He literally gives her 6 seconds to explain herself, before actually SLOWLY and GENTLY lowering her to the ground. Instead of Vader CALMLY snapping her neck
@robin9321
@robin9321 2 жыл бұрын
Damn people, leave the woman alone! I think she did an amazing job conveying the character so far! It's not her fault Reva is not written to some people's liking.
@OfficialKlassic
@OfficialKlassic 2 жыл бұрын
Her character isn't even bad, a little over angry? Sure... but come on this is ridiculous.
@SonGoku-xz8mm
@SonGoku-xz8mm 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@TheWOLVRINE616
@TheWOLVRINE616 2 жыл бұрын
Her character is bad Literally 😂 But no hate for the actress
@austinkoeppen6122
@austinkoeppen6122 2 жыл бұрын
When have Inquisitors been anything other than angry?
@OfficialKlassic
@OfficialKlassic 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWOLVRINE616 after two episodes? You’re gonna base the entirety of her character after two episodes? That’s the exact problem with the fandom right there. That’s an issue
@OrthoLou
@OrthoLou 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialKlassic I mean...yeah. Her character is meant to come off as intimidating and badass and instead she's just laughable and annoying. And either she's just not a good actor, or not right for this sort of role, because the performance is horrid.
@michaelrandolph6373
@michaelrandolph6373 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the level headed take. I personally despised the character and thought Reva was too flat, angry, obsessed with Kenobi, and growled too much but I didn’t even know the actress herself was getting hate. Always thought it was ridiculous to hate on actors for the writing.
@NeutralTea
@NeutralTea 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE her character and performance in the Kenobi show as the 3rd sister. She's a perfect needed spice to star wars as a sith character. I have no complaints, She's awesome!
@jarrarwinks8470
@jarrarwinks8470 2 жыл бұрын
We have been through this a million times, it’s disgusting that people keep bullying actors. She has done a great job these first two episodes imo, she is just portraying a character, not writing it.
@twiggsherman3641
@twiggsherman3641 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and studios have been through this a million times. If their series or movie is failing or getting bad reviews, then they parade out the fact that some idiot somewhere sent a nasty message to an actor, and capitalize on those victim status points. There's probably people who sent Harvey Winkle nasty messages. It happens, people are weird. It still doesn't make the series, the writing or the character any good.
@p.o.p.presents
@p.o.p.presents 2 жыл бұрын
We're not talking about a million times. We're talking about this situation. To me when you attach it all of these random @ss occurrences it minimizes what the actor is going through presently. Focus. Also I think there's too many wanna be critics of the acting and writing who haven't acted or written a day in their lives. Make it make sense. We need more fans and less critics.
@cassu6
@cassu6 2 жыл бұрын
@Theseus Honestly good points. You really can't be bullied on the internet, but this directly affects her career.
@colorin81colorado
@colorin81colorado 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that something does not add up with Mises claims. I believe that Kathelene Kennedy is to blame for much of what has come out of Lucasfilm but I do not agree that there is a toxic Star Wars fandom. There were always people in Hollywood who hated George Lucas after his success with "the Star Wars" film (later to be known as A New Hope) and criticism came from the paid media and not from the fans (infact the original release had hardly any promotion by the studio and they were "forced" to open up new theatres due to the huge demand created by the public (not the studios!). I'm not saying that Star Wars was loved by everyone no, there were many that did not like it and said so but they were never "fans of the franchise". That is my point, even when the prequals came along, the critism came from the paid critics and the paid media (not the fans that went to see the movies). The popularity of the Sequals enranged many (but they were not fans as now claimed by some) I was there, and the theaters were full for every sequal movie... Never have I seen hate towards the actors been spoken by the 100's of fans I have spoken to over the years... But the hate was real, just not coming from the fans (you know, those who actually paid to see the movie and later bought the merch?). So no, these hostile campaign towards Moses Ingram feels fake and scripted...
@hulkflattt7854
@hulkflattt7854 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably Disney writing that hate! To make us look bad keep us divided! Anyone with half a brain would know an actor has nothing to do with writing and character model
@johnwerner69
@johnwerner69 2 жыл бұрын
Star wars "fans" really haven't learned a thing from Ahmed Best or Jake Lloyd.. I'm absolutely disgusted
@claudegrenier3180
@claudegrenier3180 2 жыл бұрын
Worst fandom out there. Of all the herd/geek/scifi fandoms, SW is the worst. They even created the irrelevant and disgusting "fandom menace" crowd lol one of the worst things on YT
@adityaputravn360
@adityaputravn360 2 жыл бұрын
I mean at least Achmed got the love he surely deserves, but Jake? Poor guy.
@benjamin8459
@benjamin8459 2 жыл бұрын
These are trolls, not fans, and we don't even know if they are real people. Anyone who's a public figure gets this type of stuff on a daily basis, and Disney is just using it to invalidate any criticism of the show or actress.
@nggyunglyd2374
@nggyunglyd2374 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin8459 trolls, fake, real, who cares? It’s disrespectful to the persons situation that has just had to deal with all this and to just dismiss it
@Jaccsen
@Jaccsen 2 жыл бұрын
Except that Best called out the media and not fans. Honestly, Star Wars “fans” are not doing this but rather hateful trolls who want attention.
@brandogtv9650
@brandogtv9650 Жыл бұрын
People who can't separate the art from the actress especially in a case like this are unstable.
@SaberEBW
@SaberEBW 2 жыл бұрын
After episode 3 her past is finally making sense. A jedi youngling taken in by Sith would be looked down on and strive for power as she is corrupted. Minus her comments of being better than Vader who is....just so awesome.
@117MasterSpartan
@117MasterSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
I may not like reva, but the actress is a human being at the end of the day, she is doing the best she can for her role. Nobody should be attacked, why can’t people just have civil discussions
@TheMelancholicWriter
@TheMelancholicWriter 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you like her? It’s been 2 episodes.
@birbshid
@birbshid 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless Disney will capitalise on this as if it takes away from poor writing
@Maxwelldog
@Maxwelldog 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMelancholicWriter duh because shes the villain
@newtronplayz
@newtronplayz 2 жыл бұрын
yeh i hate the character but the actress should be left alone rlly
@thebatman9506
@thebatman9506 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMelancholicWriter because she is TERRIBLE
@LeviathanVZ
@LeviathanVZ 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely pathetic. These actors are not the people they portray. They are paid to play a character exactly how they are instructed to play the character. Whether the character is good or not has nothing to do with them. People are disgusting.
@thewinner6752
@thewinner6752 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious how did you get that wall on your right I love that.
@fathercosmic8061
@fathercosmic8061 2 жыл бұрын
I swear man, situations like these really make me hate Star wars fans. Like, is differentiating the character from the actor that hard to do? And what do you think insulting the actor is going to get you? Ugh, people really know how to suck the joy out of life
@b.trillbeats8769
@b.trillbeats8769 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between “I don’t like Reva” or “I don’t like Moses’ performance” vs “Screw Moses Ingram she’s ruining the show and is a terrible performer.” One of these is ok. The other isn’t.
@Tabth3778
@Tabth3778 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, the fact that people can't tell these things apart is nauseating
@cobrakai84
@cobrakai84 2 жыл бұрын
how many incidents of 'the other' are there though? really?
@d2heffz231
@d2heffz231 2 жыл бұрын
She is kinda a bad actress though, Disney is the one ruining star wars.
@chriswp5087
@chriswp5087 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobrakai84 oh my sweet summer child
@R-A-9
@R-A-9 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobrakai84 I’d like to see them too
@Tabth3778
@Tabth3778 2 жыл бұрын
I dislike the character of Reva, but how is it Moses Ingram's fault? She didn't write the character. She's not even a bad actress, she was just doing what she was told. This is literally what happened with the prequels- people need to remember that actors and actresses aren't the ones writing the scripts. Going out of your way to harass someone is repugnant. (And of course people use this as an excuse to say racist things to her) I hope she sees all the love and support, rather than the hate and harassment.
@SafetyBriefer
@SafetyBriefer 2 жыл бұрын
She's an awful actress.
@GabimaruSano
@GabimaruSano 2 жыл бұрын
@@SafetyBriefer and that means she deserves racism?
@iiKolin
@iiKolin 2 жыл бұрын
@@SafetyBriefer nah she’s good at it
@Tabth3778
@Tabth3778 2 жыл бұрын
@@SafetyBriefer I respectfully disagree, but even if you think so, she doesn't deserve to be harassed
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 жыл бұрын
@@GabimaruSano she didn’t get any racism. Cut the shit, when people criticised her character she went around Twitter calling her fans racist. Her idea of racism is literally “you don’t like my character bc she’s black” blocking her ears ignoring why people actually disliked her character
@kevlonk
@kevlonk 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said, SWT. The fandom needs more fans like you.
@alimorrison55
@alimorrison55 2 жыл бұрын
It's wild that people are attacking an actress because they don't like a character that they aren't supposed to like
@RHYNOX27
@RHYNOX27 2 жыл бұрын
I personally didn't like her acting/line delivery but there's no need for anyone to go after her like this. What an example of how toxic the Star Wars fandom can get.
@MLeeder53
@MLeeder53 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I wanted to say!
@AstroStrongBox
@AstroStrongBox 2 жыл бұрын
She got a Grammy nomination for Queens Gambit, so she can act. All the inquisitors seem weak and indecisive. Probably since the senate still has some power and Vader and Palps told them to not be to aggressive publicly. Reva doesn’t care and just wants power and to get back at Obi-wan for assumed transgression against her.
@HYDN150
@HYDN150 2 жыл бұрын
you also have to think that even her line delivery and stuff like that is probably only about 50%-65% her. She would also have been directed by the director for how to act out the lines. She is literally there to play a character. She didn't come up with her script, she most likely didn't even have total control over how her script was acted in front of a camera. People sending her hate are fucking idiots with no clue how this stuff works.
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 2 жыл бұрын
All actors get hate messages. It comes with being in the spotlight. They even do a talk show skit and make celebrities read the mean tweets that people write about them. It's not right but it is a requirement to have a thick skin.
@HYDN150
@HYDN150 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidm4566 sure, but I think there's a huge difference in, "Your acting is bad", and "you are a diversity casted act". Straight up racism.
@unanimousarts
@unanimousarts 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious to think about this situation while remembering that we used to get bullied for being a sci-fi/fantasy nerd back in the day. Now we have nerds bullying with racism over a fantasy character they don’t agree with. Hilariously asinine. Star Wars does not belong to those that take it beyond the fantasy and attempt to overpower and hurt others because they think they are entitled to owning its universe.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's kind of pointless to get upset over something that happens to people all the time on the Internet. I get hateful comments and death threats all the time, kind of comes with the territory.
@loserlesbutch
@loserlesbutch 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Belittling racism just because its on the internet says a lot
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 2 жыл бұрын
@@loserlesbutch It's a reality of the Internet. It's mostly negative messages. Nobody likes it, but it happens anyway. It says a lot that it only really matters when it happens to celebrities.
@loserlesbutch
@loserlesbutch 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp It always matters. You just have the privilege to not really see it.
@johnkaiser709
@johnkaiser709 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp this stiff upper lip nonsense a lot of you push needs to stop man like what are you talking about man… yeah sure it’s the internet but that doesn’t make it right. Stop belittling the internets impact on others this shit pours out into real life too
@Deskunderthebed
@Deskunderthebed Жыл бұрын
This is an incident that i never expected to see happen, I always thought that star wars was one of the few communities that weren't going to be racist and make these disgusting comments, I'm incredibly disgusted and disappointed towards the people doing this in the community and just in general. Racism is something that is just so beneath us and its incredibly childish to bully someone for the way they look, I mean from when we are just starting school we are taught to be accepting towards others and be respectful towards others regardless of how they look. I completely support Moses Ingram in this situation and I can not imagine how awful this must be for her, on behalf of the community I am so sorry and genuinely hope that the people attacking you will either be deplatformed or make better decisions.
@Meggimagine
@Meggimagine 2 жыл бұрын
"We're all stories in the end. Let's make it a good one" - the 11th Doctor
@masonkyler
@masonkyler 2 жыл бұрын
Go after execs, producers and overall makers of the shows and films if a character is bad; don’t hate the actors. Even then, it’s only been two episodes. Give Reva time to show her character in full.
@theghostofviper5968
@theghostofviper5968 2 жыл бұрын
U can dislike what they write but even bullying the writers cuz they wrote something u didn’t like is stupid and toxic
@birbshid
@birbshid 2 жыл бұрын
It's bait. Actors always get hate mail
@T0FFII
@T0FFII 2 жыл бұрын
How about go after no one?? Jesus.
@moises.305
@moises.305 2 жыл бұрын
Her character is garbo but I’m not gonna attack her when it’s the writer’s fault 😂
@aztronomy7457
@aztronomy7457 2 жыл бұрын
shes a bad actor in this role. Doesn't fit the role at all. Doesn't deserve racist comments but lets not act like she acted brilliantly.
@TheAJP
@TheAJP 2 жыл бұрын
We forget Asokha was one of the most hated Characters in the Clone Wars but now she has become loved. I am disappointed in those who spread hate. It really hurts to see this.
@INRamos13
@INRamos13 2 жыл бұрын
And what changed? Did she suddenly change genders or started looking different? Nope. The writing got better. It's always about the quality of the content. Everything else is deliberate distraction.
@soundwave2481
@soundwave2481 2 жыл бұрын
@@INRamos13 No the character evolved and matured so she changed accordingly the writers definetely improved themselves too but don't you think about why ONLY Ahsoka was the target of the criticism and not anyone else? Rex was already awesome Anakin was badass Obi Wan was the sassy cool guy we always knew him to be only a 15 year old young padawan who got no experience was annoying what a freaking surprise an annoying teenager...are you people so stoic that you never change? You don't look at your teen years and think "fuck I was cringey" there is a reason there is a thing called character development
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundwave2481 she wasn't even annoying when she first showed up , people just didn't want change, ahsoka was dropping gems since she arrived lol
@refugeehugsforfree4151
@refugeehugsforfree4151 2 жыл бұрын
@@INRamos13 exactly. people pretending racism is still alive in 2022. probably just 5-10 kids with multiple accounts spamming her with similar messages.
@amransom26
@amransom26 2 жыл бұрын
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 I really sincerely hope you’re being sarcastic about “people pretending racism is still alive in 2022”
@cozarooni1834
@cozarooni1834 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like her character, she hasn't done too much yet, but im excited for the last 3 epsiodes for her and Kenobi's confrontation + the actor herself seems like a blast to be around
@f-drive
@f-drive 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Star Wars Theory for pointing this out, Star Wars fandom has always been the most toxic fanbase out there and we need to rise above it. Too many actors has been underappreciated, even hated to the point of ruining their lives. How can we call ourselves as fans when we hate people who bring what we're passionate about to the screen?
@yaadmangaming
@yaadmangaming 2 жыл бұрын
The role might be out of place, but the actress has nothing to do with it. She’s just doing her part. Fans like this are the problem, learn to discern the character vs the actor/actress
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 2 жыл бұрын
Fr. They haven't learned a single thing from Hayden
@jackfoudray
@jackfoudray 2 жыл бұрын
Well, she has also been delivering lines in a subpar way lol. And the directing is to take criticism for it too. But we can critique actors and actresses for their performance. Not personal attacks, obviously, but some of you are making it out to be that we can't also blame her lol.
@TopBossBigNationz
@TopBossBigNationz 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real. This is about BLACK and white. Not even Star Wars can escape the ways of this nation. Keep your head on a swivel
@nubnugget
@nubnugget 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackfoudray she is just going along with the script smh
@dabeastbsl9713
@dabeastbsl9713 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackfoudray 🤡
@blooddixmond
@blooddixmond 2 жыл бұрын
And remember, Filoni PURPOSLEY made Ahsoka annoying as hell. He controlled the anger and confusion and turned her into the maximum of Attention, then into the main interest of the fans. Now look at her
@stolasgoetia93
@stolasgoetia93 2 жыл бұрын
I know, now everyone loves her.
@stardude289
@stardude289 2 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka had 7 seasons of growth tho. Reva only has 6 episodes of Kenobi
@bluewhale2846
@bluewhale2846 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point. I think because Ahsoka was introduced as an animated character there wasn’t the same amount of hate levied against Ashley Eckstein as there was against actors who played their characters in live action like Hayden Christensen
@nermaljamslow9024
@nermaljamslow9024 2 жыл бұрын
Ashoka was not annoying. Maybe you need to be reminded-its a children's tv show. In that context she's not annoying.
@marcusanark2541
@marcusanark2541 2 жыл бұрын
@@nermaljamslow9024 Clone Wars is not a children's show; Ahsoka was annoying as said by Davi Filoni himself.
@abelramirez7320
@abelramirez7320 Жыл бұрын
Some people find fulfillment in bringing other people down using the internet. They live a sad existence.
@theswedishcommentor
@theswedishcommentor Жыл бұрын
tbh, she knew what she was getting herself into, disney even warned her that actors got alot of hate, even more of the more disliked characters, but why is she different? that is what i know, but i know if i'd say it, you'll all have my head, and that is the sad truth about opinion in these types of matters
@weiwenntwo7972
@weiwenntwo7972 2 жыл бұрын
Not just Moses Ingram, apparently the kid who played Young Leia got bullied too. Some fans are absolutely deranged.
@def3ndr887
@def3ndr887 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the first two episodes give them a fucking chance
@randalthekidd7006
@randalthekidd7006 2 жыл бұрын
@@def3ndr887 I mean no the show is complete shit and it proved the leaks which are even worse. Still actors should be be shat on for anything but acting. She’s terrible at that also but not race related
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 2 жыл бұрын
@@randalthekidd7006 man stop replying to so many comments just saying the show sucks. It doesn’t.
@kuhanblock9380
@kuhanblock9380 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully kid Leia's parents can protect her from what's to come at school. Being in the biggest movie of the turn of the century ruined Jake Lloyd's life.
@CURSEOFSANOGAWA
@CURSEOFSANOGAWA 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously?? That’s awful! Grown adults attacking a literal child, *again* .... I’m gonna throw hands👊😧
@ScruFaceJeanOfficial
@ScruFaceJeanOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
How many Star Wars actors or actress go through this? Like even kids? The toxic nature of a big part of the Star Wars fandom is gross we can keep actin like it’s a small part of the fan base but it’s not
@RepDEntertainment
@RepDEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
The man himself is here! An unexpected surprise to be sure, but a welcome one indeed
@Omosisthefuture
@Omosisthefuture 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a little surprised to see you here man, but I agree. The actors and actresses deserve way better than the hate they get. This happens so often that I can’t really just say it’s only just a select few either.
@jagerzaku9160
@jagerzaku9160 2 жыл бұрын
Scru?
@mavvynne444
@mavvynne444 2 жыл бұрын
The Star Wars community is a bunch of toxic and most annoying people ever. Why blamed the actor/actress and not the director/producer/writer? Clearly they got pigeon brain that can't think any of this. They're stupid beyond belief. Period.💯👌🏼
@BreMue
@BreMue 2 жыл бұрын
He even said in another video, the hate that follows people who participate in star wars makes it hard to have talent willing to work on it. It devolves into worse and worse projects
@DarthAlphaTheGreat
@DarthAlphaTheGreat Жыл бұрын
There are man child’s who can’t separate the fictional character and the real people that act them out. There are also the “totally not racist” people who say “you suck at acting” for minority actors who had a bad role, and “you were sidelined” for a white actor who had a bad role. It’s ridiculous people attack actual people for something completely unrelated.
@KidCthulhu82
@KidCthulhu82 2 жыл бұрын
People keep saying ''You can dislike the character, but...'' Yet all I've seen is criticism of the character. Ok, I've seen some people criticise her acting, but what, we can't complain about acting now? Are we seriously saying it's all racism and sexism fuelling this? Well, you run another channel- Cobra Kai theory. Are the female and POC actors getting shit over there? No, because their characters are all well written and their skills and abilities all make sense. Not to mention all the POC in Star Wars previously- Lando, Windu, Jango, etc.. Now, if I'm wrong and she has posted a screenshot of her DM's fine, I'll take the L, but I haven't seen anything but criticism of Reva, not Moses.
@chadmrrsn
@chadmrrsn 2 жыл бұрын
this
@erikaeric8313
@erikaeric8313 2 жыл бұрын
She posted dm’s so take your L
@KidCthulhu82
@KidCthulhu82 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikaeric8313 dammit. Fair enough
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