The most affordable 10W laser cuts 8mm ply

The most affordable 10W laser cuts 8mm ply - COMGO Z1 by Comgrow

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Жыл бұрын

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Watch Joshua De lisle AWCB walk you through the creation process with his welded and hand forged works of Art and Luxury items.
In this episode we review the COMGO Z1 10w laser engraver by Comgrow and test it to the max cutting 8mm ply and engraving stainless steel. we'll also look at their fire proof enclosure to extract the fumes created by laser cutting and engraving.
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@robbiejsaris3586 Жыл бұрын

If the content is this good, it doesn’t need music. I didn’t notice the lack of music until you mentioned it… Top job as always 👍

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I tried my best to keep it appealing. I think i'm just afraid of awkward silence. so you got a chatter box instead ;D. cheers J

@prestonian1066 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The issue with the music is that it tends to be louder than the level of talking. So you are constantly turning the volume up and down and it gets old very quickly.

@johnpadams8079 Жыл бұрын

I thought it was great without music! Finally I can focus on what is being done. No distractions.

@shadetreehandyman Жыл бұрын

no music for me

@jamesgazin9447 Жыл бұрын

Definitely no music.

@dwaneanderson8039 Жыл бұрын

I prefer to not have music. I like hearing the machine running. It gives a better feel for what it's actually like to use it.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. cheers J

@johngate70 Жыл бұрын

I vote for No music please.

@serendipitynz Жыл бұрын

much better with NO 'music'

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you Chris. Cheers J

@lenwenzel7440 Жыл бұрын

Without music please.

@gert_kruger 11 ай бұрын

Something to keep in mind: the mass added by placing the motor onto the gantry helps to filter high-frequency vibrations.

@sedulousdabbler5468 Жыл бұрын

Great balanced review as always. Much better without music 👍

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, noted. cheers J

@jamest6373 Жыл бұрын

Some of THE BEST CONTENT on YT. Please, no music. Some of us actually want to hear the machinery/workshop noises.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'll do my best. Cheers J

@stevelindsay3643 Жыл бұрын

I can do without the music. Having commentary would be better than music I don't care for.

@pappy1812 Жыл бұрын

You have a great way of putting your knowledge and content across. I don't think you need the music. I prefer to just listen to what you have to say. Thanks for all your content and the work you put into making quality content 👍

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I'll do my best to continue improving the content. Cheers J

@AmeliasGavel Жыл бұрын

1st timer here. Always interested in lasers but no idea where to start (or time to research). Enjoyed your video. Your explanations along with actual details about what you use, breaking things down into steps etc was just what I needed so I could learn without being lost. FWIW, liked the combo no/music...nice balance.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. All the very best. Cheers J

@LaserRanger15 Жыл бұрын

I've been in the laser business for a very long time, mostly galvo driven systems, but also two stints with high end, gantry type CO2 companies. I never would have thought that the flatbeds would get this cheap but still be of pretty decent quality. Very good overview. Well done. Update: 445nm, that was a surprise. That's why it can do the wood AND the SS.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. they're giving me a 20w module for the LONGER machine to review next year and I have a 50w CO2 to test out shortly although that one is £3500 to buy. cheers J

@libansheikh7067 Жыл бұрын

Hey, I am new to this, I wanted to cut a very small vector design (its VERY basic tree, like no leaves or anything), i wanted it to be around half an inch in size), i do not want to engrave it, i want to make the shape by itself, like there is no board it is on, the design itself is the entire thing, what should i search up to find what im looking for. ie the type of machine that does this.

@chrisjames6349 Жыл бұрын

Honestly I’d say either with or without music. I like and appreciate your content and as long as you’re keeping the content (talking, explanation and machining / making) I’d say what ever you prefer for your videos.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

thank you so much. cheers J

@texomatinker414 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.- I can do without the music, the world is noisy enough.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'll take that onboard for future videos. Cheers J

@edwardfletcher7790 Жыл бұрын

No music is definitely better, totally unnecessary. ..

@GregHali Жыл бұрын

Completely agree, i'm bored of the irritating guitar music in every video these days.

@babsk4071 Жыл бұрын

Huh-I have the ‘Tinker Name in The Family’.. 🤔

@hbert06 Жыл бұрын

It's MUCH better without music!!!!!

@rickmarkgraf2617 Жыл бұрын

Your music was just fine after I turned volume down to zero. I prefer captions anyway. Great vid. Loved the box and examples.

@sportflyer Жыл бұрын

Well done for the honesty. It makes the review genuine and worth paying attention to!

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you I try my best to share what I would want to see myself. Cheers J

@babsk4071 Жыл бұрын

Came upon this after See a Fuel video! Ok.. you been @ This for Awhile!🏆✌️

@katchupoy01 Жыл бұрын

I like the one without music.

@wild-radio7373 Жыл бұрын

This is a fantastic review !♡

@jimrainey1518 Жыл бұрын

Love D design!

@aldodu4475 3 ай бұрын

Il ne manque qu'une chose c'est de préciser vos réglages EX: 600 mm/mn à 80% 3 passes Super le contenu est excellent The only thing missing is to specify your settings EX: 600 mm/min at 80% 3 passes Great the content is excellent

@MegaBonso Жыл бұрын

Great video very helpful

@gerryturley6070 Жыл бұрын

Agree. No music

@66SouthCM Жыл бұрын

Have to say, I liked a little of both. The initial "no-music" cuts were a good way to get a feel for the noise levels (often missing in video content). the last few shots with music were great. Content is brilliant, as usual.... Thank you!

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Cheers J

@danielrecon1740 Жыл бұрын

Rather no music. I like to hear actual making sounds and speaking clearly.

@0Logan05 5 ай бұрын

Better without music… Much better actually..😉

@freefreepalestine360 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. cheers J

@knifethrower9733 Жыл бұрын

I must say I thought I was listening to James May from top gear , your really really good at presenting stuff ✌️

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'll take captain slow as a compliment 😉. Lots more to come hopefully, all the very best. Cheers J

@jt16omes Жыл бұрын

Lifespan of a diode laser should be better than CO2, same goes for power loss. I like the fact that it is essentially solid state, hopefully there are going to be 40-80w modules available by next year from multiple companies. Question is whether the module just doesn`t outlast the mechanical parts :D

@SchysCraftCo. Жыл бұрын

Joshua always great to see ur videos sir. Very nice job reviewing and putting it to the fullest potential test. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God Bless.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much always for your support. Hopefully more metal work coming soon. But a few more lasers to come also. Cheers J

@SchysCraftCo. Жыл бұрын

@@joshuadelisle awesome. Can't wait to see more videos. God bless.

@DownhillAllTheWay Жыл бұрын

You wanted to know - I think I'm unusual in this respect - but I prefer it 100% *_WITHOUT MUSAK._* Great video, by the way. I don't suppose I'll ever do anything like this - but it's fascinating to watch - and if ever I need this kind of product, I know who to contact!

@dawnfinney-downing4426 Жыл бұрын

❤the music

@frankelepartners Жыл бұрын

Top job! Do not need music... Good info...

@Damian-Church-NZ Жыл бұрын

Nice hammer flip cobber 👌

@joshcookify 5 ай бұрын

Just picked this up off Amazon for $290 on sale and looking forward to seeing what I can do with it. This is a grear review though I do wish you had said how long it took to cut that box out. 8mm hardwood cuts like that are way better than expected even from other reviews. I plan to cut 5 mm basswood and thinner so should do reaply well.

@derekjenkinson8014 Жыл бұрын

Football inflation nozzle / insert type thing works as well for a air assist nozzle.

@gert_kruger 11 ай бұрын

Music is fine and not tacky

@trondaustad8617 10 ай бұрын

Nice video. Wondring about try this laser things. Think i was ok without music. But, play if you like it mr . Thanks for good laser school😊

@paulbirbeck Жыл бұрын

Much better WITHOUT "music"!

@pascalnaumann1002 Жыл бұрын

You know he´s serious when pulls out the blow torch 1 min into the video 😂

@Warick.Grubb. 11 ай бұрын

nice box :)

@ukwebb Жыл бұрын

nice clean review - like it. i'd be interested in how it can cut or etch other things too , eg cut and engrave acrylic sheet, etch wood (looking at speed & 'print' quality)

@markhonea2461 Жыл бұрын

It is called 'venting' when you are transferring unwanted gases to outdoors, and 'ducting' when moving gases but retaining them.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

I didn't know that. Thank you. Cheers J

@tonywharton5220 Жыл бұрын

I've been in 2 minds about getting a 10 watt. I think mine is only 3 watt. I really like this 👍

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm testing a 50w co2 laser shortly. I don't think I'll be going back after that. They're a lot more money though. Cheers J

@tonywharton5220 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuadelisle Cool 👍

@rabbiehippo Жыл бұрын

I would recommend if your gonna do stuff as a business to go for a 50 watt ' Blue and white' CO2 laser with a Ruida controller. We did 5 years ago and now have a fairly successful business however it's not as easy as some people think. Interesting video even though I probably tutted and muttered diode laser under my breath haha. Cheers

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I have a gwueike 50w co2 to test out shortly. Roughly £3500 worth. I'm going to compare it to buying 10 £350 diode lasers machines. Cheers J

@jstro-hobbytech Жыл бұрын

Grbl on wifi especially if it's an 8 bit mcu commonly associated with grbl. I have bought a lot of printers from comgrow and their service for hardware issues is amongst the best I've seen. There's a bit of a wait for parts but that's ok.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

That's good to know. Thank you. Cheers J

@tevya017 10 ай бұрын

impressive on 8mm wood.

@franklinrowland1093 Жыл бұрын

I always thought you did well with the music in your videos, but honestly I didn't notice the music missing until you mentioned it. As for the product reviews, I trust your tests and opinion highly, but any cheap safety filter for lasers concern me, since they may not actually block the advertised wavelength and/or infrared light that some cheaper lasers emit. That is much harder to test for, but I find that information to be fairly useful

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I think the cover is better than nothing at least. A completely enclosed box that is vented is obviously going to be the best solution although you'll want fire detection if you do and an auto shut off if opened. All the very best. Cheers J

@leshall 4 ай бұрын

Great video and after hearing your B-Roll music....

@joshuadelisle 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. Cheers J

@1QKGLH Жыл бұрын

I'd rather hear the machine working than music. I found the first half, sans music, to be refreshing.

@CalebCarterFilm Жыл бұрын

Nice video!

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. cheers J

@CalebCarterFilm Жыл бұрын

@@joshuadelisle No worries! I really enjoy your video style and your fun way of presenting stuff. Keep it up. 😁

@trondaustad8617 10 ай бұрын

Oh.... the box was nice.

@ashtonwoodturnings225 Жыл бұрын

No music is best for me

@Happymacer_P Жыл бұрын

Another vote for no music!! 😊

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you, cheers J

@Amy_McFarland 9 ай бұрын

No music thank you! I hate having to turn the volume off for a video

@caddyguy5369 Жыл бұрын

I'm curious about the plasma thing. That would be good for when my laser dies.

@Hollywood4Fun Ай бұрын

Just dropping in with a tip. I was having some interference issues on my plasma table using my cheap Arduino card controller and laptop. A guy suggested I use a USB isolator. He said that's probably all it is. I haven't tried it yet but thought maybe you would like to know. Apparently a USB isolator prohibits interference making its way back to the computer.

@joshuadelisle Ай бұрын

That sounds like a good idea. Cheers J

@ronnyaasterud7452 Жыл бұрын

Before music, I focused on what and how you where doing the task with a deeper focus. After music was added, I focused on blocking the music out to get what the movie was about. It is up to you what you want to deliver. Music, or a deep product review. Some people can handle both, others can't. Nice music though, What was played? I wouldn't mind listening to it without being disturbed by the review. Lol. I know, I'll let myself out. Really good review though.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Note taken. Cheers J

@seorwulf1049 3 ай бұрын

I preferred it without the music - but hey your vids do what you like :-)

@scottnever8732 Жыл бұрын

gotta say I happened upon you doing a diesel heater review, I have no real idea what you do but I want one of those laser things lol I am a tool junkie

@andrewperry1987 Жыл бұрын

The cooling fan on the laser doubles as air assist.

@demonfighter6 Жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Good review. I prefer the videos without music.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Cheers J

@amoreyjones565 11 ай бұрын

I would like to see a video or even a short of you showing how to expand the work are of the laser as sai in min 3:10

@joshuadelisle 11 ай бұрын

Thank you. its litrally just extra long extrusions and longer timing belt. i'll be doing iot soon with my diy Plasma. cheers J

@waltermiraglia8134 Жыл бұрын

I prefer no music.... or at least super low volume :) great video. Cheers

@no5x937 Жыл бұрын

Any idea on what thickness acrylic, lexan, polycarbonate, and delrin can it cut?

@tomayrscotland6890 Жыл бұрын

Brill Joshua De Lisle. I Got the hydraulic hole punch works a treat? got the 11' x 13' metal shed. I just need to get the shed up and get my forge in out the rain..

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Nice one Tom. All the very best. Cheers J

@dalelstrand Жыл бұрын

Very informative. Music ok but at a lower volume

@lab6068 4 ай бұрын

You do know that plywoods and other layer like plates Are pressed at different psi atm,...... It will effect the outcome of youre cut? Just saying...... Grtzz from Holland Thnxs for your laser vids they helped me.

@OGMann Жыл бұрын

Do you mean cheap, or inexpensive? To many people, there is a critical distinction between the two. Particularly in quality. A cheap product could reasonably be anticipated to achieve mttf sooner than a less cheap product. It may be that cheap equates to less expensive more often than not, but there are exceptions. If the performance of this system is par for more expensive products, hopefully it is also of equal component quality and will last as long. That's a win.

@mattivirta Жыл бұрын

expensive machine not mean automatic have good quality machine, lot have wery expensive machines etc, italy made factory machines have expensive but totally worst machines italy not can build anything mechanic good lot have engineer plan fails, same france engineer do all worst, i not know how there engineer school learn but totally worst can only build all.

@caddyguy5369 Жыл бұрын

I really wish I saw this before I bought a different 5w laser for about the same price.

@4115steve Жыл бұрын

I always have spotify on listening to my own music usually. I prefer no music because sometimes the music is crappy and I can't mute it because I have to hear what the persons saying

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

That's fair enough. Cheers J

@garyperry4832 Жыл бұрын

No music 👍

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Cool. That seems to be the majority so far. Or most vocal minority.... Either way I think I'll definitely reduce the music. Cheers J

@MrAndypurcell Жыл бұрын

hi i read somewhere on another review site that the laser module on the comgrow z1 is rated for more than 10000 hours. also dont they make these 10w modules by using 2 5.5w lasers? so max power could affectively be 11w but its limited to 10w. if that's the case then by selecting 100% power you wouldn't theoretically be running the diodes at 100%.

@gangleweed Жыл бұрын

Yes, most definately.....NO MUSIC.

@chucklenz9011 Жыл бұрын

Nice box….for the first one. I mean what the I don’t have my laser yet but it’s coming and I think I’ll try your files if u don’t mind.

@chrissmith841 Жыл бұрын

What laser would you recommend for a part time business start up? Thanks

@Battleduck94 5 ай бұрын

In case anyone has gotten here in 2024, i just purchased one of these machines, and the issue i was having getting it to connect with lasergrbl was that it needs the next speed of baud rate up. 230400 bauds i believe it is (machine is out in the shop, and i dont have it in front of me). Hope that helps!!

@Starfishtroopers Жыл бұрын

no music please.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. cheers J

@TobyFireandSteel Жыл бұрын

Cover thing is good idea. 👍🏻If it fits lol

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Yes it's handy especially if you want to work next to it. Cheers J

@mattivirta Жыл бұрын

if have laser cutter can made own cover top of machine no need buy anythin waste parts or waste money, only need crap or new material buy and have cheap etc, 3mm plywood. and windows can buy laser safe acryl .

@ainttakenanyshit 4 ай бұрын

Question please. When you designed your bit box, how much "clearance" did you allow I.E. for a 2" x .25" hole / and a 2" x .25" tab, does the burnt "kerf" allow for assembly? OR did you have to make the tabs smaller to fit the holes?? Thanks for your advise.. Hank

@godofthehens Жыл бұрын

for the extra note for the wifi, it is dangerous to use cheap (never-will-upgrade) wifi gadgets on your network if its not separated from the main network.

@kirkswater Жыл бұрын

Awesome job Josh! Great video content and details. I'm new to understanding the capabilities of these types of lasers. *Do you know how this device would perform in Lightly Marking white PVC, like Sched 40? Looking to create a product label for some of our parts. Thanks Mate! -Kirk-

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Don't use it on any plastic other than acrylic because it can give off very toxic gasses otherwise. Cheers J

@stephenhall3515 Жыл бұрын

Without 'music' except maybe in sped up edits. Also please remind people to always wear the appropriate eye protection. Great stuff as usual.

@stephenhall3515 Жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

@onbedoeldekut1515 11 ай бұрын

Hi Joshua. I discovered your channel a few weeks ago and am impressed with what I've seen. As well as being (newly) interested in varying tech like this, I've been a guitar modder for a good thirty years. A lot of guitar mods revolve around reversing and inverting the signal from the pickups, switching it from parallel to series and so on. Would it be possible to somehow switch the current feeding the lasers between series and parallel? You might be able to raise the power by just doing this, if it isn't already. And is it possible to upgrade individual elements within the system proper? Thank you kindly.

@joshuadelisle 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. Regarding the electronics I haven't opened one up to look at it clearly. I would be concerned to increase the power as you shouldn't use it on full power all the time anyway as you'll degrade the diodes especially if they get too hot. From what I can see it's DC with PWM input but that's as far as I can see without taking one apart. Cheers J

@007JHS Жыл бұрын

What was the cutting time for your box... oh, and AC DC Thunderstruck

@leisureshoot Жыл бұрын

less music definitely better!

@chucklenz9011 Жыл бұрын

Nice box though!

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you. cheers J

@ainttakenanyshit 4 ай бұрын

Music is OK, BUT, not too loud :-) Most of the time BIGGER/MORE POWER IS "BETTER", but for a beginner, would you recommend the Z1? Enough power? Thanks for a good review and your reply....

@joshuadelisle 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. If you're not in a rush the Z1 is fine for learning and making a few things. You'll want more power once you've tried the more powerful models though. Personally now that I've used 40w+ models there's no way I would have anything less because I'm impatient. But the budget is what will determine the power I would choose. Cheers J

@nicobogaard2315 Жыл бұрын

I am very interested in these types of machines. I am a hobby woodworker with quit a hang to scrollsawing. Boxes, baskets a.s.o. Are very popular and are valued for practical use. What holds me back is the burning of the edges, lasercutting is so recognisable. Is it possible to get rid of the burning on a machine as this? It would be used with 3/4 mm ply or even thick veneer hardwood.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Hi Nico. you can make the tabs 1mm bigger and then sand them down after or use a flush router bit. these work great on 3/4mm ply and can be used for fine inlay work. cheers J

@videogame1291 Жыл бұрын

It's worth noting the cover and tube are silicone, not silicon

@TheElectronicDilettante Жыл бұрын

By all means keep the music. Has a bit of Nine Inch Nails feel. Very nice.

@olliefs9298 Жыл бұрын

Im currently in the market for one myself.. just dubious on which to get... cant wait though.. mainly for cutting perspex

@olliefs9298 Жыл бұрын

Aww man watching this just makes me want to get one now..

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ollie. if you want to cut clear perspex you need a co2 laser from my understanding. I have a Co2 version that I will be testing soon and have 12mm thick perspex to test. This one I beleive will cut opaque acrylic just fine but nothing that is clear. Chears J

@olliefs9298 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuadelisle ahh cool good to know thanx I was looking at co2 without realising. It will be clear perspex ill be cutting mostly.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

@@olliefs9298 I'm testing the qweike cloud pro. It's a 50w and has the correct wave length to cut perspex. Cheers J

@olliefs9298 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuadelisle awesome looking forward to the vids! Cheers :)

@jstro-hobbytech Жыл бұрын

Is there a little laser like that good for marking fr4 copper clad before being etched? Burning off the uvresist maybe. A decent desktop mill even. Nothing super elaborate.

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried it yet but I'll give it a go. I have a mini cnc router just a generic cheapy and I've used it to mill aluminum name plates. Cheers J

@belich666 Жыл бұрын

6:26 ¿the blue light of the laser can be seen trough the cover?

@joshuadelisle Жыл бұрын

Yes but not enough to cause harm I don't think. Cheers J

@TheElectronicDilettante 3 ай бұрын

So I’m about to receive an xTool D1 10w setup. I don’t remember if what I ordered has the air assist or not. My question is regarding this air assist. Is it really helpful? Is it stoking the burn created by the laser or clearing ash? Would an inert shielding gas( like used in heli-arc/TIG)Argon, CO2, etc work better in the “air” assist?? Any wisdom, knowledge or thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Keep the music!!

@joshuadelisle 2 ай бұрын

It's essential for keeping the laser lens clean and the diodes cool and to blow away chard debris. Oxygen is probably best for cutting. Cheers J

@damirregoc8111 Жыл бұрын

No music is better. And notice how most people are either indiferent, or prefer no music: not a single person will skip the video because it doesn't have some cheap stock music blasting. A lot of us will if it does have it.