The most complicated orbit in history:The ISEE-3 mission in KSP | RO+Principia

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Reach

Reach

4 жыл бұрын

BGM: Entropy - Nigel Stanford
Landing script of BFR by Nessus
some manuevers are different from the reality

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@reach6898
@reach6898 4 жыл бұрын
This kind of orbit can only be made by the mod called Principia. This mod aims to replace KSP's unstable physics integration with a higher-order symplectic integrator, adding n-body Newtonian gravitation in the process. Link: github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia
@1974moumita
@1974moumita 4 жыл бұрын
Which means no kraken :(
@BKnight_
@BKnight_ 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't N-body simulation cause Jool's system to collapse? What did they change to fix it?
@reach6898
@reach6898 4 жыл бұрын
@@BKnight_ This is RSS so it doesn't have this problem.
@gaminghorshoecrab169
@gaminghorshoecrab169 3 жыл бұрын
BTW I saw someone used this video on bilibili
@gaminghorshoecrab169
@gaminghorshoecrab169 3 жыл бұрын
So it is really you?
@PascalLeroy
@PascalLeroy 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I had no idea that you could do that with Principia (and I wrote it).
@reach6898
@reach6898 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your mod is a great work.
@Pac0Master
@Pac0Master 4 жыл бұрын
Neat I haven't checked that mod for years Is there a way to mess around with the planet's orbit? I'd love to see what happen to gravity when 2 planets get so close they almost collide Stock KSP is just too messy due to the gravity "bubble"
@Kataclysm113
@Kataclysm113 4 жыл бұрын
@@reach6898 see, i was wondering how you got something in a lagrange point when ksp doesnt simulate gravity well enough to actually have those, now i know how you did it. i wasnt aware this mod existed until now, and now that i know it does, i shall be using it frequently, i think.
@jarediannudalo6074
@jarediannudalo6074 4 жыл бұрын
wow 🙌🏼
@siriusk1453
@siriusk1453 4 жыл бұрын
The moment you know the mod is perfect is when a guy can literally do the most complicated orbit
@LoxyTheFoxxo
@LoxyTheFoxxo 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine you being used to regular circle orbits and principia is just like: S P A G H E T T I N O O D L E O R B I T S
@nickbarton9738
@nickbarton9738 3 жыл бұрын
This is me...
@LoxyTheFoxxo
@LoxyTheFoxxo 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickbarton9738 this is US
@ethansailer8138
@ethansailer8138 2 жыл бұрын
There still relatively circular its just the reference frame that makes them look weird
@beagle_uah
@beagle_uah Жыл бұрын
Yep, that’s Principia for ya!
@railworksamerica
@railworksamerica Ай бұрын
Your profile picture is cropped CP.
@Theooolone
@Theooolone 4 жыл бұрын
Every ksp video: "just a quick and simple gravity assist to save delta v." What I see:
@armandoperez9361
@armandoperez9361 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah, I barely got into it like 3 days ago and I had to figure out how to aim for the moon
@jojolafrite90
@jojolafrite90 4 жыл бұрын
@@armandoperez9361 First time I tried the mod, I found myself in a Lagrangian without trying to find it.
@supersonictumbleweed
@supersonictumbleweed 3 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 that's some good science
@MatterBeamTSF
@MatterBeamTSF 4 жыл бұрын
Just wow. Matching those historical orbits was amazing, but then you went and gave it that extra Kerbal touch by recovering ISEE-3 with a Starship!
@reach6898
@reach6898 4 жыл бұрын
I originally want to use space shuttle to recover it, but some fans want me to use starship
@x3Cay
@x3Cay 4 жыл бұрын
@@reach6898 i think it was a better choice to listen to your fans :) Awesome !
@kerbodynamicx472
@kerbodynamicx472 3 жыл бұрын
Reach I thought you were going to use the cargo variety lol
@hubbletrubble7875
@hubbletrubble7875 Жыл бұрын
@@reach6898 Either one would've been coo. It'd be interesting getting Shuttle to such an eccentric orbit tho. . .
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea what was going on in 75% of this, but I know just enough about KSP to be very impressed.
@iCore7Gaming
@iCore7Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
Gravity. That's what is happening. In KSP when you are in a SOI only that object effects you which is massively inaccurate.
@jojolafrite90
@jojolafrite90 4 жыл бұрын
@@iCore7Gaming It actually will piss me off, if KSP 2 has the same mechanics and the same scale!
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 4 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 If you want KSP with a bigger scale and more realistic dynamics there are mods for that. The principia mod adds n-body dynamics. I'm a little familiar with how that works, my confusion is more on what each maneuver is trying to achieve.
@Archimedes.5000
@Archimedes.5000 4 жыл бұрын
@@danieljensen2626 Principia should be stock ffs, scale/planets dont matter, because we can just use Kopernicus mod to play in whatever system we want, but physics? Physics should be always accurate, because the shit is actually more confusing in its simplified state than in principia. Same thing for RealFuels
@Archimedes.5000
@Archimedes.5000 3 жыл бұрын
@Flight Simulator Films but its not really less complicated, its just counter intuitive. Stock KSP makes you feel like you can only move in circles while on the orbit and that just feels wrong. And Im saying that as someone who had no idea about orbital mechanics before playing KSP
@cesarvidal3851
@cesarvidal3851 4 жыл бұрын
Teacher: the test is not that difficult The test: the entire video
@Soken50
@Soken50 4 жыл бұрын
They don't call it rocket science for no reason :)
@buffaloc20
@buffaloc20 4 жыл бұрын
Soken50 orbital mechanics*
@Soken50
@Soken50 4 жыл бұрын
@@buffaloc20 It's a joke you pedantic twat
@buffaloc20
@buffaloc20 4 жыл бұрын
Soken50 I know I am correcting the word
@mmmnnn4023
@mmmnnn4023 4 жыл бұрын
and all she touched on in class before the test was how to throttle the engine up
@jamesj.jamesworth9888
@jamesj.jamesworth9888 4 жыл бұрын
That orbit looks like one of those bead things you find in dentist office waiting rooms
@dunodisko2217
@dunodisko2217 4 жыл бұрын
1:35 LEGOs right before you step on them
@pegasusted2504
@pegasusted2504 3 жыл бұрын
Does the end orbit follow the path you take around the room hopping due to standing on Lego with bare feet?
@dunodisko2217
@dunodisko2217 3 жыл бұрын
@@pegasusted2504 down to the nanometer
@nia.d3356
@nia.d3356 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine showing this video to someone from 1950 and trying to explain what they are looking at. Then explaining this is a game even children play just for fun.
@rockomax2732
@rockomax2732 4 жыл бұрын
Smunstu Stinkymonster I do. If being 14 years old counts as a child
@ErickSoares3
@ErickSoares3 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see what Korolev, von Braun and Chertok would think of this.
@krishnannarayanan8819
@krishnannarayanan8819 4 жыл бұрын
@@rockomax2732 SAME YO I want to become guidance officer when I grow up
@wellnotme9354
@wellnotme9354 3 жыл бұрын
I am 11 years old, and I love ksp
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErickSoares3 My guess is they'd lose their shit the moment they saw the low-energy transfers
@boggeshzahim3713
@boggeshzahim3713 4 жыл бұрын
And some people can't even reverse out of their drive ways
@HKG5sentsp
@HKG5sentsp 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott Manley, Look here
@Thlormby
@Thlormby 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this mission on Dark5’s video about sad objects in space. Despite being an inanimate object, the thought of a probe trying to communicate updates about a mission nobody cares for makes me sad
@Dorsidwarf
@Dorsidwarf 4 жыл бұрын
Still astonishing, an impressive exploration of a fascinating real mission
@ethrilswifthawk3769
@ethrilswifthawk3769 4 жыл бұрын
absoloutley beautiful, I've never seen such a beautifully complex mission in the real world let alone re created in ksp LET ALONE the post failure mission profile
@Electric_Bagpipes
@Electric_Bagpipes 4 жыл бұрын
Eat your heart out, Brad; _This_ is how you do gravity assists!
@AlexandreLollini
@AlexandreLollini 4 жыл бұрын
This is huge, thank you very much for sharing this work with us, this is quite an achievement. Until then I was thinking that the grand tour of the Voyagers was clever ... well this one is even more.
@AgustinCaniglia1992
@AgustinCaniglia1992 4 жыл бұрын
4:40 touched me
@HeadsetHatGuy
@HeadsetHatGuy 4 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Ry_TSG
@Ry_TSG 4 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty uncool should probably report it to the police
@throwaway80345
@throwaway80345 4 жыл бұрын
Me too, not even my uncle could touch me like this
@xzznnn845
@xzznnn845 3 жыл бұрын
@@throwaway80345 hol up
@danyalag3366
@danyalag3366 3 жыл бұрын
"Its only rocket science, how hard can it be?" -said no one ever
@leeterthanyou
@leeterthanyou 4 жыл бұрын
WELP I hate to be that guy, but they just added comets in KSP 1.10 -- let's hope Principia updates soon, because this is a seriously badass mission -- and would totally deserve a remaster :)
@SteelRider
@SteelRider 2 жыл бұрын
me with stock ksp : "gravity assist isn't too hard to learn you just aim for the eve then throw yourself to other planet-" people who installed Principia :
@user-si5fm8ql3c
@user-si5fm8ql3c 2 жыл бұрын
May be a bit late for a reply, but principia makes aiming actually easier in many cases, instead of the 6 SOI changes the stock conics system displays you can string together as many SOI changes as you want, performance does suffer once your plan extends upwards of ~2500 days, but you can always just lower precision for better performance and correct like 5 years in. Also docking is easier aswell, if you have a craft selected your reference frame can be set to target aligned and you see a squiggly line going to or over the target, each "squiggle" is one orbit, so you just align the squiggle with the target and wait untill you get close.
@bartolomeothesatyr
@bartolomeothesatyr 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was incredibly awesome, not just hyperbolically, but literally; I am in actual awe that this is possible in a video game about strapping little green cartoon people onto trash cans full of boom, and also in awe of the fact that Bob Farquhar and his team were able to do this IRL, and also in awe of the fact that a troupe of semi-hairless apes only a few millenia removed from the invention of writing have become knowledgeable enough to accomplish all of these things. I loved the Starship recapture you added at the end, that just brought it all home (pun fully intended). I'm definitely going to have to give Principia a whirl.
@CatTheRoundEarther
@CatTheRoundEarther 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that most of this really happened is the most amazing thing ever, I'm sure with enough time you could take a probe with at most 500M/s^2 from Earth orbit all the way to Pluto, it may just take a few hundred years.
@petekarm
@petekarm 4 жыл бұрын
WOW. These gravity assists and orbits are incredibly complicated. I used to think Bradley Whistance's gravity assists are damn complicated, but this video shows something five steps ahead.
@somesfs170
@somesfs170 2 жыл бұрын
3:49 bruh moment when the spacecraft's trajectory draws a g-clef lol
@dranreb.june.cubelo2735
@dranreb.june.cubelo2735 4 жыл бұрын
The first song reminded me of my good ol friends while driving around town, I miss them.
@averagecornenjoyer6348
@averagecornenjoyer6348 3 жыл бұрын
It's all one song, it's kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9V9e7B2nb7RpHk.html
@DungeonNumber5
@DungeonNumber5 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, KZfaq, for this completely random recomendation for me, a casual viewer of short and funny KSP videos.
@thesunexpress
@thesunexpress 4 жыл бұрын
Our predecessors often don't get the credit they deserve. Imagine doing all of these complex orbital maneuvers with a pen, paper & slide ruler.... no computers used at all. Hats off to the OG space nerds.
@badbeardbill9956
@badbeardbill9956 4 жыл бұрын
Oh they 100% used computers. But those computers were much less advanced and more difficult to use. Imagine making hundreds of trajectory simulations and sifting through them...
@greyarea7714
@greyarea7714 4 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful to watch! Thank you
@tobiasjohnson1903
@tobiasjohnson1903 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know how this hasn't got more views. Great video.
@kelvin31272
@kelvin31272 Жыл бұрын
this is incredible and should have more views - also the song you chose was perfect
@lewismassie
@lewismassie 4 жыл бұрын
What an all round fantastic video. Great mission, great music, great people. And the BFR to top it all off
@KematianGaming
@KematianGaming 4 жыл бұрын
this orbits blew my mind. didnt know something like that was even possible
@PikaPilot
@PikaPilot 4 жыл бұрын
It's not possible in vanilla KSP. Read the description
@KematianGaming
@KematianGaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@PikaPilot i meant in real life
@jojolafrite90
@jojolafrite90 4 жыл бұрын
Not in Stock KSP.
@jojolafrite90
@jojolafrite90 4 жыл бұрын
Because mechanics are so simplified that it gets it completely wrong.
@rbvfeehfbudenrj
@rbvfeehfbudenrj 4 жыл бұрын
This is just me trying to find a parking spot
@JuanPretorius
@JuanPretorius 4 жыл бұрын
So amazing that you brought it back home! And in awe of how you did this. Throughout the video I was saying "ahh, he's one of *those* KSP players" aka a genius. WP!
@andimason3370
@andimason3370 3 жыл бұрын
I understand what is going on here, but don't think I'll ever have the skill to replicate it. The fact that someone actually figured all that out and then did it is incredible. On that note how did they even have the self confidence to propose it? Hey guys I have this plan of doing several gravity assists around the moon on both the forward and leeward side, using the suns gravity to allow us to get another kick from another double gravity assist around the moon to get an orbit that intersects a comet to then come back do other double gravity assist to adjust our orbit to get to another comet. And then they accepted it, and it worked!
@kerbodynamicx472
@kerbodynamicx472 4 жыл бұрын
“This is impossible.” “No, it’s necessary.”
@jojolafrite90
@jojolafrite90 3 жыл бұрын
This is extremely impressive. Hats off to you.
@krio1267
@krio1267 4 жыл бұрын
7:17 The Big F***ing Rocket
@CalvinMaclure
@CalvinMaclure 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I installed Principia on my 1.8.1 update several months ago! Looking forwards to these sort of tricks on my series! Great stuff!
@jarediannudalo6074
@jarediannudalo6074 4 жыл бұрын
I have no words, just wow ❤️ astonishing
@danielross7983
@danielross7983 4 жыл бұрын
Nice touch landing it on the Heli pad ;) Made me chuckle
@nikollor
@nikollor 4 жыл бұрын
OK, folks we all know from KSP that orbital mechanics is pretty simple, we just need to... WHAT THE F*CK???
@j.jasonwentworth723
@j.jasonwentworth723 3 жыл бұрын
The last part--a SpaceX Starship recovering ISEE-3/ICE and returning it to Earth--could happen, just in solar orbit... But I'm torn on this; I like the idea of letting it stay in its natural environment, interplanetary space (a Starship crew could repair/refurbish it, then release it to continue its work--ditto for Pioneer 6, 7, 8, and 9 in solar orbit). If spin-scan cameras were installed on these spacecraft, they could also serve as comet and asteroid probes, investigating them as "targets of opportunity" (Pioneer 7 did this, also making a distant flyby of Halley's Comet, measuring and mapping the He++ ions around it).
@Tundra_Mods
@Tundra_Mods 4 жыл бұрын
Nice use of the Starship there! ;)
@slavaukrainisfs8238
@slavaukrainisfs8238 Жыл бұрын
"If you can get to Venus, you can get anywhere" No. If you can get to a Lagrange point, you can truly go anywhere!
@excitableboy7031
@excitableboy7031 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is the most beautiful thing i've ever seen
@btsmart.c9048
@btsmart.c9048 4 жыл бұрын
Teacher: This test will be easy Test:
@zacboyles1396
@zacboyles1396 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible job!
@SquaresToOvals
@SquaresToOvals 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@Skyfalcon12345
@Skyfalcon12345 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Amazing!!!
@ipodshuffle9929
@ipodshuffle9929 25 күн бұрын
This orbit is the definition of organized chaos
@Soenderup21
@Soenderup21 4 жыл бұрын
That is the most counterintuative thing i've ever seen!
@yusronnaim
@yusronnaim 2 жыл бұрын
wow great work!
@michagrill9432
@michagrill9432 4 жыл бұрын
Now thats a rollercoaster of an orbit!
@satosiwu148
@satosiwu148 Жыл бұрын
great music taste!!!
@natheniel
@natheniel 4 жыл бұрын
This video is very bittersweet.
@rtleitao78
@rtleitao78 4 жыл бұрын
This is really impressive.
@yumazster
@yumazster 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was impressive!
@andysheng4435
@andysheng4435 Жыл бұрын
This is art
@Xiaotian_Guan
@Xiaotian_Guan 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredible! An absolute masterpiece(both your recreation of the original mission, and Farquhar's orbit design). I've just started to play around in Principia recently, still having a hard time choosing the correct reference frame.🤣🤣🤣 另外。。。很久以前好像在B站看到过你,不过我B站没注册过账号,没想到在油管搜到了你的视频。膜巨佬orz
@fertileplanet7756
@fertileplanet7756 Жыл бұрын
My puny Kerbal Space Program "missing the ground" brain cannot comprehend this madness.
@greyarea7714
@greyarea7714 4 жыл бұрын
Music was perfect too.
@Chleosl
@Chleosl Жыл бұрын
Amazing. I have no words with it. You literally "playing" NASA on computer. Tremendous.
@piko1032
@piko1032 5 ай бұрын
For some reason i always want to cry in the end
@helenrobinson7771
@helenrobinson7771 9 ай бұрын
i would love to see this probe be recovered one day and put in a museum like in the video
@endeyfire
@endeyfire 4 жыл бұрын
this madlad took rollercoaster simulator 2020 to space.
@thePyro77
@thePyro77 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, N-body orbital maneuver can be kind of weird and tangled if seen from wrong frame of reference, but from the correct one, the trajectory kind of making sense, it's just making circles and ellipses most of the times. SOI escape is kind of easy with N-body calculation, it's like car drifting, but in all three dimension, yaw, pitch, and roll.
@supersonictumbleweed
@supersonictumbleweed 3 жыл бұрын
On August 10 2014 at 18:16 UTC, the spacecraft passed about 15,600 km (9,700 mi) from the surface of the Moon. It will continue in its heliocentric orbit, and will return to the vicinity of Earth in 2031.
@user-gf2yz6kf2y
@user-gf2yz6kf2y Жыл бұрын
I seem to understand, but I don't seem to understand. It seems that this orbit is so complex. Perfect Video
@swarley2500
@swarley2500 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this feels like when i watched scott manleys docking tutorial 2 years ago.
@shaldurprime7154
@shaldurprime7154 2 жыл бұрын
this is as close to freestyling it as you can get with goddamn gravity assist maneuvers
@LuigiCotocea
@LuigiCotocea 4 жыл бұрын
Me: using the mod Also me trying to figure out orbit mechanics
@2nd2lastdodo
@2nd2lastdodo 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine calculating this orbit with the technical possibilities of the 60s and 70s... :O
@yurigagarin3014
@yurigagarin3014 2 жыл бұрын
This is how you become the orbital mechanic
@romainpoirier4200
@romainpoirier4200 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! ggod job !
@12gvink
@12gvink 4 жыл бұрын
That reentry animation
@_.l4n3
@_.l4n3 2 жыл бұрын
Le epic 2014 Starship
@JC-vb3xk
@JC-vb3xk 4 жыл бұрын
KSP has comets now
@pog4302
@pog4302 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Interesting...
@experiment506
@experiment506 4 жыл бұрын
Immediately recognized the music. From Chlidren of a Dead Earth yes?
@reach6898
@reach6898 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@MrHichammohsen1
@MrHichammohsen1 3 жыл бұрын
Holly molly guacamole!
@choasbiscotti3146
@choasbiscotti3146 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a fly buzzin around
@MrIdontknowanyname
@MrIdontknowanyname 3 жыл бұрын
Teacher: The homework isn't that hard. The homework: 3:39
@shartnitazodkeesian4018
@shartnitazodkeesian4018 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think docking was hard. Then I saw this.
@simplespace2566
@simplespace2566 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 🙏🤐
@anventia
@anventia 3 жыл бұрын
Most recent KSP update adds comets!!
@user-ey6ss7pc1c
@user-ey6ss7pc1c 2 жыл бұрын
dirty fire
@i3ootman430
@i3ootman430 4 жыл бұрын
Tangled orbits :D
@vehicleboi5598
@vehicleboi5598 Жыл бұрын
someone toucha my flight plan
@powdermcdust8335
@powdermcdust8335 4 жыл бұрын
Children of a dead earth OST nice...
@masterofthelag8414
@masterofthelag8414 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the old fallback, the spagetti orbital path
@stephanweinberger
@stephanweinberger 4 жыл бұрын
And the next epic chapter was how a bunch of (amateur) astronomers and radio enthusiasts managed to reconstruct the original radio equipment (which had been dismantled) in software and actually communicated and reactivated (!) the spacecraft in 2014 - unfortunately by that time the pressure in the tanks had dropped too low for the required maneuvers to stabilize the orbit. But amazingly they did in fact get some sensor readings. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5p0adODuZaYgI0.html spacecollege.org/isee3/
@vennstudios9885
@vennstudios9885 3 жыл бұрын
Normal KSP players: Excuse my Green Cyldrical head, what is this Space witchery
@ashwinnarayanan417
@ashwinnarayanan417 4 жыл бұрын
How do you launch into the Lagrangian L1 orbit? I have principia but I am never able to get it exactly right.
@reach6898
@reach6898 4 жыл бұрын
You can read some papers about Lagrange points and follow the maneuver node.
@renatoromano
@renatoromano 4 жыл бұрын
How do you simulate Lagrange points in KSP? (I understood that it was made in some orbits)
@SunnySzetoSz2000
@SunnySzetoSz2000 4 жыл бұрын
Principia MOD
@Afanasii_Kamenkoi
@Afanasii_Kamenkoi 7 ай бұрын
Rocket science is very cool
@siriusk1453
@siriusk1453 4 жыл бұрын
How many asteroids hit earth while doing this mission
@clayel1
@clayel1 11 ай бұрын
how did you do the heat shield for starship?
@emosewasikcin
@emosewasikcin 4 жыл бұрын
Wow and I only just figured out how to get to Mun
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