The Most Controversial NASCAR Finish? Regan Smith’s STOLEN WIN
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The 2008 Amp Energy 500 maybe one of if not the most controversial races ever with possibly the most controversial finish ever to a NASCAR race. With the unpopular double line rule the race at the Talladega Superspeedway fans would see an underdog winner in Regan Smith lose their first win in a way that many saw unfair and possibly biased by popularity with the win ultimately going to Tony Stewart. So who got it? Stewart, Smith or another? Was this the most controversial NASCAR finish? Regan Smith's stolen win.
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@TheIceberg 9 ай бұрын
Who do you think is the rightful winner of this race?
@BrianIsTheGOAT594 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith.
@joshuapboston1999 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith truly won this race. We can't change NASCAR's official story, but we all know the truth. Stewart forced Smith down towards the bottleneck in the trioval. In that respect, DEI would have had one last victory as a team in 2008 instead of folding late in the season, shortly after their merger with Ginn Racing the previous year.
@twister1296 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith
@JJA1987 9 ай бұрын
Regan just like Junior was in the fall of 2015
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
@@JJA1987don’t forget about Matty d in 20
@DoglegMediaMatt 9 ай бұрын
Imagine believing anyone other than Regan smith won the 2008 Amp energy 500.
@wesselweasel4838 9 ай бұрын
Tony Stewart won
@Leftturner 9 ай бұрын
Fr he was under him just barely and Tony went down touching him putting him down below the yellow.
@dr.b0973 9 ай бұрын
The yellow line rule set a dangerous precedent that would come to being the very next race at Talladega, Even Regan said in the post rece interview "i guess i should've just held my line and wrecked him"
@polycube868 9 ай бұрын
Brad Keselowski and Tony Stewart both figured that out the next year.
@nascarfanatic2425 9 ай бұрын
IMO, I don't think this was even about being fair for NASCAR. One of the biggest things NASCAR has been accused of over the years is having favoritism, and this was no exception. Two of their biggest drivers in the sport had gone winless up to this point: Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart. Jeff had just got knocked out, so he was out of the question. NASCAR took advantage of the opportunity, and they gave Smoke the win. If that was Dale Jr. in the 01 car, the ruling would've been different.
@mitchcase7829 9 ай бұрын
Ya nascar opened a can of worms with this
@bigbbrown23 9 ай бұрын
That top 10 qualifying order is wild. I also forgot about Schrader in the 96 car and Terry Labonte driving the 45 car for Kyle Petty.
@robertstone9988 9 ай бұрын
Penalizing somebody forgetting shove below the yellow line is like taking someone to jail for getting punched in the face
@zt5547 9 ай бұрын
The only constant thing about NASCAR is that they're never constant with decisions.
@Jalingzah123 9 ай бұрын
This is so true
@hornetguy9063 9 ай бұрын
You also forgot Jimmie Johnson getting basically everything to go his way for approximately a decade.
@BrianIsTheGOAT594 9 ай бұрын
Ben Rhodes did the same thing Tony Stewart did to Regan Smith, to Matt DiBenedetto last year in the Talladega Truck race, and Matty D wasn't black flagged. That's good that NASCAR learned from their mistake, but this is still B.S.
@scottpeters371 9 ай бұрын
If Regan doesn't go below the yellow line, Stewart goes for a ride (probably airborne like Carl Edwards did the next year) and we have a major wreck. Regan should have won that race.
@austinemms9772 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith won that race. Stewart didn’t want to get wrecked so he shoved Smith below the yellow like to avoid being wrecked. End of debate.
@BrianIsTheGOAT594 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. This is why NASCAR should demolish the stupid double yellow line rule.
@evannuh-koo-la4054 9 ай бұрын
I don't think you're wording this correctly, Smith went below the yellow line because Stewart threw an aggressive block, and Smith didn't want to cause a wreck
@mikethechristiangamer85 9 ай бұрын
Stewart is such a hypocrite if that happened to him he would cry and say blocking should not happen
@BrianIsTheGOAT594 9 ай бұрын
@@evannuh-koo-la4054 that's why the double yellow line is stupid. He shouldn't have been black flagged.
@mikeybrown6526 9 ай бұрын
@JGR4LIFEyep Exactly why
@chrisguardiano6143 9 ай бұрын
This race along with the 2002 Indy 500 & the Abu Dhabi GP from 2 years ago are the three most controversial finishes that I remember the most. When it comes to the 2002 Indy 500 specifically, I think Paul Tracy got screwed big time mainly because IRL did not want to see a CART driver come in & win their biggest race for the 2nd time in 3 years at the time (this was at a time in which "The Split" was still raging).
@benconkle7422 9 ай бұрын
I am curious how this would be called if it were different drivers involved. (For example Stewart and Smith switched places)
@polycube868 9 ай бұрын
Uncle Tony would've been pissed if a rookie roadhogged him to the yellow line
@mikethechristiangamer85 9 ай бұрын
Stewart would be upset with the blocking bc he hates when drivers block unless he's doing it
@senna3 9 ай бұрын
One thing I know with 100% certainty, Brad Keslowski's last lap actions at the next Talladega race were a result of this
@Maverick33 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. It couldn't be more obvious
@MSC-Songwriter 9 ай бұрын
100% fact... NASCAR's incompetence has long tentacles.
@NASCARFAN93100 9 ай бұрын
Tony Stewart should have been in the "Winless in 2008" conversation alongside Jeff Gordon, Matt Kenseth and Kevin Harvick
@NascarAllOut 9 ай бұрын
"If we started having cars running 12-wide down the back-straightaway, just imagine what would happen when we get to turn three". - Scott Miller after the 2020 YellaWood 500 finish. Just don't enforce the yellow-line rule once drivers make it to turn three on the final lap. Scott's still happy because you won't have drivers fanning out 12-wide down the backstretch. Problem solved!
@jonathanweyant1060 9 ай бұрын
I think Regan Smith should have been declared the winner of the 2008 Amp energy 500, because I think Tony Stewart forced Regan below the yellow line, and Paul Menard simply had no place to go, plus I think the yellow line rule is dangerous too.
@sseek5924 9 ай бұрын
It's pretty cool that in the same season just a couple years later, Smith and Menard both got their first career wins and Stewart won the championship.
@stevenkilsdonk2046 9 ай бұрын
And then the next spring, the moment Carl started to do the same move Tony did in this race, I had the feeling that Brad wouldn't make room for Carl trying to muscle him under the yellow line. And he did not.
@miller4190 9 ай бұрын
Denny crossing clear across the stupid yellow line at ‘dega and then stole Matty D’s. Thank you for mentioning it
@teddyobrien4801 9 ай бұрын
Ya know what’s funny? Hamlin did the same thing to Kurt on the final lap of the 2011 Bud Shootout and was justly penalized.
@naparacingfan9275 9 ай бұрын
2015 Fall Talladega will always be the most controversial finish there for me. This 1 is definitely up there though. 01 should've been given the win.
@Jalingzah123 9 ай бұрын
I agree
@Maverick33 9 ай бұрын
Omg I was so pissed after that. Dale Jr got screwed that day. NASCAR went completely against the rulebook that day. Instead of going by video like the rulebook states, they went by scoring loop data. Probably one of the biggest screwjobs I've ever seen. Other than WWE Survivor Series 1997. NASCAR literally screwed their most popular driver at the time. Not a good move
@MSC-Songwriter 9 ай бұрын
I busted up my 1/8 scale big plastic Harvick car that day. Kicked it right off the shed roof.
@beatlejeff65 9 ай бұрын
Always felt that NASCAR screwed over Smith big time. He chose not to cause a big wreck and got stripped of his win for it. Brad K sure learned the lesson from this because the following year he held his position rather than dropping below the yellow line. Brad won the race and Carl Edwards ended up in the catch fence.
@Blizzard0812 9 ай бұрын
But you can’t deny it gave so much more meaning at darlington. Just the call to the finish was awesome
@LessGo7921 9 ай бұрын
This and Nascar’s robbery of Kurt Busch’s win at Auto Club 2015 are two biggest asterisks in Nascar history imo
@mikes7651 7 ай бұрын
The biggest asterisk in NASCAR history is Kyle Busch winning the 2015 championship despite missing practically 1/3 of the races that year. A perfect example of why the current championship format is so screwed up.
@LessGo7921 7 ай бұрын
@@mikes7651 as a Kyle Busch hater, I 100% agree with that. That whole 2015 season was a scam looking back 😂
@kyleraymer5581 9 ай бұрын
The very next year there was a similar situation as this between Keselowski and Carl Edwards, except that time Keselowski choose to not go below the yellow line and it resulted in a very nasty crash. I really think this incident was a big reason for that crash. If drivers weren't punished for making a safe decision, I think it could have been avoided.
@artwaldron986 9 ай бұрын
Definitely Smith. The yellow line rule is a joke. It's caused at least as many incidents as it's prevented. The very next race at Talladega showed the dark side of this rule.
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
Let’s keep in mind when the rule first came out in 2001 who was the first driver to be penalized it was Stewart. Could nascar have done it to smith because he was a rookie and rookies have to learn the rules
@JustinNYCode3. 9 ай бұрын
Pepsi, 400 yes
@jacekatalakis8316 9 ай бұрын
This is one of the many reasons I side with Jr saying the yellow line rule needs to go. It has served its purpose, and the sport has evolved, it needs to go, there needs to be a natural way to not be encouraged to go down there and pass
@Josh-oo9pv 9 ай бұрын
Every time I see this finish I just get so angry I feel for smith
@reidcraig3739 19 күн бұрын
As a Tony Stewart fan this was one season I like to forget for many reasons. 1. This win being the main reason. 2. This was his only season driving a Toyota 3. I really think this was his worst season at JGR. Yes he didn't make the Chase in 2006, but he still had 5 wins that season (eventhough 3 came during the chase)
@JayStephens8 9 ай бұрын
My take on the yellow line rule is if a driver makes a pass with more than half a car width below the double yellow line without being forced down or without avoiding a wreck and what is classify as a wreck is at least one car getting sideways with a save being highly unlikely and if there’s smoke from a spinning car, so a car getting briefly sideways and almost immediately continuing on is not a wreck (2020 fall dega)
@Jalingzah123 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith won that race. There is no doubt in my mind that he didnt, and honestly I think that NASCAR should just get rid of the yellow line rule. It doesn't even make superspeedway racing safer it probably makes it more dangerous as you can be penalized for trying to avoid a potential wreck.
@nascarsteve 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith won this race. I'll defend it to this day. Who did NASCAR want to win: some "nobody" or an established champ who hadn't yet won in his swan song season at Gibbs? Smoke forced him down. Regan won.
@danielblock6876 9 ай бұрын
I thought 2020 was the most controversial but dega from 08 gives it a run for its money and me being 16 at the time and as a Tony Stewart hater at the time I was mad he won but I bit frustrated at nascar too maybe not as mad as I was in 2020 but I mad cause it overshadowed one of the most competitive races of the cot era.
@mikes7651 7 ай бұрын
Regan Smith 2008 and Brennan Poole in the Xfinity Series race in 2016 are the two NASCAR rob jobs that always stand out to me. Every time I think about them I get pissed all over again.
@allthrills9973 9 ай бұрын
NASCAR couldn’t have gotten that call any more wrong… everyone knows Regan rightfully won that race
@nikkimejia6767 9 ай бұрын
This finish still pisses me off.... because smith avoided him wrecking Stewart
@nikkimejia6767 9 ай бұрын
3:15 "after half a decade?" Paul Menard was with DEI only 3 years not 5..... 1 year in the Busch series #11 car (2006) and 2 years in Cup #15 car (2007 and 2008)
@whalesequence 8 ай бұрын
It should've been Smith or Menard, I wonder if Brian France had something to do with this
@polycube868 9 ай бұрын
I remember going to Walmart after this race was over but hadn't seen it yet and there was a guy wearing a Tony Stewart shirt and he looked happy and I figured out why when I got home and watched.
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 9 ай бұрын
Pfft why even go anywhere. Plus the race was on tv.
@ZeusEKR 9 ай бұрын
Thus call still irks me to this day. Tony was gifted the win by NASCAR playing favorites and being forever inconsistent.
@christopherphillips1435 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunned seeing that starting grid and it not being a Busch Race lol.
@TanDawg58 9 ай бұрын
8:16 Still annoys me 15 years later that the announcers didnt acknowledge the fact that Front Row Joe just barely squeaked by Edwards spinning car
@SuperNASCARrocks 9 ай бұрын
Still to this day Regan Smith won that race and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
@Maverick33 9 ай бұрын
Watch this finish then watch the finishes of the 2009 Aaron's 499 and 2009 Coke Zero 400. There is DEFINITELY a correlation. This finish and subsequent call is why drivers had a "Wreck em or lose em" type mentality for plate races in 2009. You will never convince me otherwise.
@cadillacjohn1994 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith may have deserved to win, but his car owner, Teresa Earnhardt, did not. That’s the only time I’ve ever liked the yellow line rule, because it prevented Teresa from getting a win that she didn’t deserve.
@holzmann- 9 ай бұрын
Even worse - this situation likely lead to the finish a year later. Keselowski couldn't go below the yellow line, so his only way was to take out cousin Carl.
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
Being a seven year old and this being my first race and being a Stewart fan I was excited for this race little did I know
@mrwest231 9 ай бұрын
Never understood where my guy Andy Petree got the idea that the move would be legal on the last lap
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 9 ай бұрын
Because it was legal to go down on the Yellow line on the last qualifying lap at the time.
@mrwest231 9 ай бұрын
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld makes sense
@Farkle_8000 9 ай бұрын
I won’t tell you who actually won this race But lemme just say Menard has 1 career win and Stewart is winless at Talladega
@JayStephens8 9 ай бұрын
This call still pisses me off, Regan smith should have 2 cup wins
@rcguy902 9 ай бұрын
If this pisses u off you need a life
@danielfoster3642 9 ай бұрын
I remember that race pretty well. I'd say Tony Stewart forced Regan Smith below the yellow line, but Smith did not get back up in time before the start/finish line, so Tony Stewart won the race.
@seahawks2483 9 ай бұрын
So stupid he got blocked down there. Just such a poor decision by nascar
@stealthswim223 9 ай бұрын
Look at how full those stands are! Holy crap!
@tanjirouzumaki144 9 ай бұрын
Tony pushed him below the line
@seen48 9 ай бұрын
Regan for sure wins that ace. Rules are clear. If your are forced down, you an keep your momentum and get back on the track safely. He did all of that. If the argument was that he did not get forced down then that’s a bad call and the only way Stewart win that race. Ask him, he knows it.
@nicolesgaming8917 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith. Won. This. Race.
@averyalford2400 9 ай бұрын
I remember watching this race when I was a boy. I was eight years old.
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
I was 7 and was there
@averyalford2400 9 ай бұрын
@@nickb8773 I was watching the race in Alabama. However I watched it from my tv.
@joshuahitt908 9 ай бұрын
Me to I was 11, very bizarre moment as a new fan that year
@natman527 9 ай бұрын
I remember this race very well, I was 18 at the time and I still to this day Regan Smith won this race
@jbernfinger5494 9 ай бұрын
I still say that had Stewart given a penalty Keselowski wouldn't have wrecked Edwards the next time they went to Talladega, Brad heard what Smith said and held his line and wrecked Edwards for the win that time; I can only imagine if smith had done the same thing, what could've happened later down the line
@NETkid5880 9 ай бұрын
I think it should have been regan smith. I was rooting for him at this race. this race was soooooooo long ago though cant believe it has been 15 years since this race
@twc621 9 ай бұрын
I remember that race and finish so clearly. I'm a big Tony Stewart fan and know his history with losing at talladega. While I'm glad this one ended differently for him, I kinda hate it feels like there's an astrik next to this win...it's bs for sure. Also this is Tony only Toyota win despite having like 5 races that year he was painfully close. As much bad luck he had that year I am okay with this bullshit.
@Takingyoutojail 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith: “It should’ve been me, not him, Me!”
@austinstitzel 9 ай бұрын
Please do a video what if Tony Stewart stayed at JGR?
@nikkoperrella 9 ай бұрын
How are you not gonna bring up the impact this race had on the very next race there???
@cito1101 9 ай бұрын
The Yellow Line rule should've been abolished at that point. Smith won that fair and square
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 9 ай бұрын
Team Regan
@travisknoll 9 ай бұрын
lol @ “I think it’s legal on the last lap.” Why would it be legal on the last lap and not the previous 187+ that preceded it? 😂
@mikeybrown6526 9 ай бұрын
first Dega race i watched, i was six and I’m still sick that Regan Smith didn’t win
@saltbombcreations8336 9 ай бұрын
They literally stole a win from Dale Sr. as an owner, what a -10 iq move by NASCAR
@gabrielcraig8928 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I never even thought about Menard should've won but I get what u were saying.Nascar should've let Regan win, I mean it's the last lap on gawd sakes lol.
@Crimsonbrony4812 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith
@Ghost29303 Ай бұрын
Even if you are forced below the yellow line , you can't advance your position .
@NASCARFAN93100 9 ай бұрын
Don't be surprised if the Drama of the Double Yellow Line Rule is reignited this weekend
@aupaub1168 9 ай бұрын
Crazy they can kick Truex out of the playoffs after a week, but can give Reagan a 2nd place finish for that race. Yes referencing spin gate
@YouTubeAuditor1 9 ай бұрын
Jr's pass: no penalty Regan's pass: penalty Haley's pass: penalty Hamlin's pass: no penalty This is exactly why I stopped watching after the 2020 talladega race. They can't make their minds up about the rule after 20 years. If I do watch a race, it's on an international stream so nascar can't get their ratings. Screw nascar for completely lacking any sort of integrity or sportsmanship.
@jerrychase4177 9 ай бұрын
Crsp like this only happens at Daytona and Talladega
@ShotgunDolphin 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith has 2 career wins
@markkeetemanperformance 9 ай бұрын
Smith will always be my talladega winner
@Tylnorton 7 ай бұрын
Stewart won. He knew the rules and took advantage of it. Rule at the time was if you were forced below the yellow line you, you must enter back on track with out advancing position. Therefore Smith was not the winner.
@mikethechristiangamer85 9 ай бұрын
I just wonder if smith forced Stewart down would they dq Smith
@ryanperez4697 9 ай бұрын
Menard won (I may be biased)
@armondealey3714 9 ай бұрын
Regan Smith won that race. And I'm a Stony Stewart fan.
@wilcross50 9 ай бұрын
turns out I like seeing denny hamlin wreck in 2008 too
@holzmann- 9 ай бұрын
And because of this, Tony Stewart is the only driver to win for both Toyota and Pontiac
@therhusker2156 9 ай бұрын
Smith because Tony kept his line so Smith could not get back onto the racing line.
@zachg9065 9 ай бұрын
18th place? No if it was a penalty, then 2nd place…
@tjbartel9421 9 ай бұрын
Smith
@darnedstarbuck 9 ай бұрын
Morale of the story, don’t buy 2008 Goodyear tires.
@JeffWeselyan 9 ай бұрын
He was force down
@youngblood7624 9 ай бұрын
That would still be Biffles Kansas “win”
@johnvandeventer8668 9 ай бұрын
The yellow line rule is so inconsistent… Smith won
@punkskaterpizza 9 ай бұрын
Reagan won that race. Stewart is bum who forced him below the line cause he never knows how to race clean
@dannyblock5267 9 ай бұрын
This was the race had us seeing and beginning with this race something called the Double Big One and in the years that followed at Daytona, and Talladega we'd see that a lot. Because well one big one for us is not enough sometimes.
@KaiserAmaterasu 9 ай бұрын
As a Tony fan, i think that giving him the win is correct, of course im totally biased tho
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
Same here Stewart won
@robertstone9988 9 ай бұрын
@@nickb8773if you had to give a reason besides your bias for why he won what would it be? Like if you had to testify in a court of law what reasoning what technicality would you use? Just curious.
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
@@robertstone9988 smith was a rookie and rookies have to learn the rules Stewart was the first one to be penalized in 2001 when the rule came out
@blairdecker3735 9 ай бұрын
@@nickb8773so if smith was in his 2nd year would you penalize him
@Austin_Windric 9 ай бұрын
At least you're honest about being biased
@AngeloRametta 9 ай бұрын
Kyle Busch
@redxraider0613 9 ай бұрын
I like Tony but Regan is the winner of that race
@leesmith9903 3 ай бұрын
Regan Smith won the race!!
@noahcoleman5556 9 ай бұрын
I THINK IT'S LEGAL ON THE LAST LAP
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
Why would it be legal on the last lap and not for 187? The roasting in that conversation gets me to this day
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 9 ай бұрын
@@nickb8773 because it was legal to go below the Yellow line on the last qualifying lap at the time. Now they pretty much go down there because they only have 1 lap.
@loganengland8177 9 ай бұрын
We need to get rid of the yellow line rule and go back to what it was like in the early 2000s
@Dupontman627 9 ай бұрын
Tony Stewart hated driving a Toyota I don't blame him
@ToopyAndBinooRulesEst2004 9 ай бұрын
I’d say Tony Stewart won this race.
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
Yep rookies have to learn
@hunternixonfishing2500 9 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion nascar made the right call. Regan was never alongside Stewart when he went below the line. How can you “force” someone below the line when they are never alongside them
@nickb8773 9 ай бұрын
At least someone agrees Stewart won
@BrianIsTheGOAT594 9 ай бұрын
Uh... Stewart pushed Regan below the line to avoid causing a wreck. He didn't give him any room.
@hunternixonfishing2500 9 ай бұрын
@@BrianIsTheGOAT594no he didn’t. How can you force someone below the line when they aren’t beside them
@BrianIsTheGOAT594 9 ай бұрын
@@hunternixonfishing2500 like I said. He did not give him any room. He ran him off the track.
@Atari2600Gamer 9 ай бұрын
The more I watch it, the more I think it was a no-win situation for Regan Smith. Tony blocked him fair and square, then the gap closed, giving Smith nowhere to go but past the line. If Smith tried anything different it probably would've wrecked or slowed the field. Tony would've still got the win as long as he didn't get taken out
@joshuaburkhart7690 9 ай бұрын
Smith Won it
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