Paula Di even though he can execute them like a boss when he needs to.

Yuzuru Hanyu is a true master of figure skating

Vanessa Marza And he's still really young. Just imagine if he keeps progressing until his retirement.

Sofi Pab jeez he will be unbelievable!

Sofi Pab Let's see if he can improve yep but I guess he will be injuried very often...he's not a human machine...so I'm afraid his career will be short if he keeps on being a jump machine.

Woah am I really the first to comment ?

He appeared several times

as well as Kolyada's quad Lutz...

i just finish watching olympic's misleading video regarding the FIRST who landed quad lutz.. oh boy, olympics can't even do the initiative to delete the video. they wanted to get reported. ugh

He appears several times, are you kidding

his routines are flawless and mindblowing so yeah yuzuru ftw

Karen Ariel exactly

bc hes king

But he also has had to deal with serious injuries. So just because he can do it doesnt mean its good for him.

Yuzuru is good but in the 2019 world championships he was second second to Nathen😮🤯

True. It was Boyang and the Chinese attempt to dominate the male figure skating, that created this situation. I bet they will be the first to accomplish quadruple Axel too, which will probably put Nathan out of the game for the next Olympics.

o6ina As far as I know, Yuzuru is the only one who's training the quad Axel. Boyang still has his three types of quads (Toe, Salchow, Lutz) and has actually been focusing more on his skating skills and entertainment skills than adding more quads. Like, right now the one pressuring the field really is Nathan with his six quads in the free alone, but the only ones of the top six who are adding new types of quads are the two Japanese skaters, Shoma and Yuzuru.

Totally agree! I also saw a video of Time, it was titled "Meet Nathan Chen, the Figure Skater Who Brought Athleticism to Artistry"... Like excuse me, who? He doesn't even claim to be all that so why would you ignore and disrespect all the ice skaters who've come before him, by making such an unnecessary statement? If they keep over-praising nathan chen like this, he's gonna become overrated real quick. They also put too much pressure on him, he's only 18, they should give the boy some space to improve and perfect his skills.

DineLade Jin Bo Yang is actually doing himself a favor! His jumps are clean enough that he can focus on other skills such as artistry to give a well rounded performance. We all know Yuzuru and Shoma are well rounded skaters so it’s good to see Jin Boyang making advancements towards improving his overall performance, something I personally wish to see Nathan Chen do seeing as he relies heavily on Quads but is severely lacking in artistry in comparison to other top tier skaters such as Javier Fernandez who is arguably the most artistically skilled skater right now.

LittleInvisibleMe My comment was in no way meant to be negative towards Boyang! I really like that he focuses on his artistry and skating skills and when I watched his free skate yesterday, I even laughed because of his expressions and movements in that one part. I'm also a fan of his jumps, they are really consistent and big and a wonder to watch. And I agree, I hope Nathan will focus more on his skating skills and artistry, too, as well as getting higher GOEs on his elements. People were impressed by his free skate yesterday but they forget that both Yuzuru and Javier have gotten higher points with less quads in their programs.

LOL

Hahaha. Ngl, as much as I love Hanyu, it gets pretty exhausting when that's all anybody ever talks about 😂

@@Mica_T lol me too. i fcking love hanyu, but sometimes i just get tired of seeing his fans spamming every FS videos

That's because Hanyu fans are insane

100% video: no one else but Nathan Chen even though he's not the only one who can do quads 🙄

he's american so americans are just gonna pretend he created them like they always do

esmleo LMAO TOO REAL

You're right. It's FOUR revolutions. ;-)

@@tigonridge OOOOO THAT WAS THE BEST JOKE I HAVE EVER HEARD IN 17 FUXKIG YEARS

@A M Actually it was Kurt Browning of Canada in 1988 World Championships in Budapest.

That's not the point? If it's only one person doing it, who is going to retire someday, what is the point then of calling it artistic if no one is is capable of making it art via their interpretation

@@tinaloye2014 LOL what? You sound like the people who try and justify devaluing Simone Biles's skills just because she's one of the only gymnasts who can do them.

@@charlie2.048 no because those skills are quantifiable. Artistics are left to subjective interpretation.... hi

@@tinaloye2014 that's the point lmfao! If he thinks it's artistic, then that's his subjective interpretation of it 🗿

@@shenquanruiwife69 still think ‘artistic’ is a bullshit word for ‘my favourite athlete’...

vivian Wg he didn’t do as many as Nathan lol Nathan did 6 while he did 4 in a run

Starlise Jun.from.17 lol ok karen. You ignored the artistry part.

@@starlisejun.from.1799 karen karen karen

But neither Nathan or hanyu have done a quad axel

@@irismokashi9136 Hanyu is actually training it and you can watch his 4A attempt videos, unlike Nathan who still struggles on the 3A sometimes

Where does this video say that Nathan started the wave?

@@Andrea-yh3rc I think in US Championship back in either 2016 or 2017

THIS.

Not anymore they don’t

and the fact that he just doesn't mention at all how this jump is even more controversial in women's figure skating. Just pretends that women's figure skating doesn't exist.

The problem is when judges dont seem to get that lol. Just cuz you can land a quad doesn't mean your whole program is is artistic. Pcs and tech s are so unbalanced. And yhen now we also have the same thing with pairs now.

I'd also recommend along with the ones you mentioned, Jason Brown and Stephane Lambiel. They showcase perfection in what is supposed to make up half the score, without the more flashy and impressive looking quads (but still having great jumps). It really shows what those that are lacking in artistry are missing, and helps show how impressive those that can do both to an extremely high level really are.

L C So boring tho, if it’s just people jumping around. The artistry of the sport does matter in my opinion. I think a lot of people would also lose interest in the sport if it loses it’s artistic factor.

and in soccer its just people kicking a ball. if you find it boring, don't watch. i find it incredible. lots of people can be artistic on ice (including myself). but not everyone can jump.

jessie liu - if you're into artistry, then go to a theatre or a museum. Sport is sport. If the artistry takes the priority over the technical difficulty, then we start watching an artistic performance, not a sport. I'm totally fine with a ban on quad jumps in figure skating or a ban on any jumps but consequently let's exclude figure skating from the olympic games instead of pretending artistry is a kind of sport.

秋 How do you know you’re artistic on ice? Sounds like you have an inflated ego. You’re probably nowhere near as artistic as you think you are. How artistic you are is for others to decide.

slawero Figure skating is supposed to be 50% athleticism and 50% artistry. There’s supposed to be balance. Otherwise there would be no point in skaters using music.

And it should be about both, it's amazing and exciting to see the men jump really high and fast but it's the artistry that makes it complete and actually interesting to watch.

Yeah that cute dude with cool jumps😍😍😍😍

@@bushra___bushy___1361 lmao 'cute dude w cool jumps'. accurate tho XD

No we cannot because his fans make everything about him

@@Andrea-yh3rc well he's the goat, so why shouldn't people mention him. In a different sport like football, it would be like missing out on the likes of messi or ronaldo who have impacted the sport tremendously. If you don't want to then don't participate in conversations surrounding him.

@@samchau3476 This is a video about Nathan Chen ... not Hanyu. If you don't want to talk about Nathan, don't participate in conversations surrounding him

Lorina P Nathan Chen still crushed everyone in the free skate. He just had a very off short that put him in 17th (really unfortunate because he would have been untouchable).

Jamie Bridle Chen has no artistry. Figure skating isn't just about jumping.

He crushed no one, except the scoring system. I really recognize the fact he's able to do all quads at this young age, it's surely incredible. But he needs maturity in his programs and more artistry. He could never break the H&L world record, even though he's making 6 quads in his program, and this is telling everything. if he could do 6 quads perfecty executed and a really beautiful program to watch then it will be so nice. But I don't even know if it's possible or human body to do that. Still, I will acknowledge him as equal to Hanyu and Fernandez when he'll reach some kind of perfection in his execution, which doesnt have. yet.

Jamie Bridle He said that b/c he crushed the SP, he went all out in the FS and had no fear. If he did a decent SP, he may have felt the pressure again and crushed the FS. Then, what would you say? If yuzuru did not injure himself 2 months before and just started jumping three weeks before the game, he might broke the WR again. who knows?

Lorina P THAT IS GRADE A BULLSHIT.

Oh stop.

Chen just broke one of Hanyu’s records today at Helsinki. Although I can’t help but feel that Chen’s skating mainly relies on his quads and tend to lack in artistry. Chen still has much to learn in that aspect. Yuzuru on the their hand has not only exemplary skating skills, but also the ability to convey a story and emotion through the grace and elegance of his choreography. Eventually, Chen will surpass many of Yuzuru’s records due to his high technical scores, but as a whole, I still believe that Yuzuru is a superior skater. He proves that ice skating is not about making as many difficult jumps as possible, and that is what I love about him.

@@athenathai4082 So true.

@@athenathai4082 exactly

@@athenathai4082 that one in Helsinki was disappointing for Hanyu since he is injured. If both Nathan and Hanyu is not injured in a Championship or Olympic then that would be one hell of a competition.

DID YOU CLICK ON THE VIDEO JUST TO SAY THAT OMFG

Hayden K. 😂

@@hjhseo1114 I clicked on the video just to read this comment

Yuzuru is the god of figure skating

WHY R U HERE AHH WAE

DineLade well said

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priscilla chau 我们在谈花样滑冰，没有什么歌手?

Right? Yuzuru is one of the most well rounded skaters and his artistry and performance skills are beyond phenomenal. Just watch his olympics fs. It's gorgeous and so clearly a piece of art

Nicole Braun yeah, I'm so annoyed at this video and at the press in general for having this opinion that lots of jumps = no artistry. You can have both and also, you can't win with just the jumps. Nathan had 6 quads in his free at the Olympics but couldn't beat the world record which was made with 4 quads. Other things still count.

The toughest injury I had as a figure skater was a fall on my steps. Steps! Sports are dangerous, figure skating is one of them. There is no clear border - "it's still safe up to this point but from here on". If a person is physically capable, they should push the boundaries of sport.

Its mora about the points, for quad jumps you get almost 10~13 points, (quad axel is 15 points) triples are at most (Lutz) 6 points but tripple toeloop is 4.3 points, so if someone does 6 quads (Nathan) opposed to someone maybe attempting one because their jumps aren't all that well the differens on tecnical score is around 25 points (if everything is executed properly) and you can't make that up with anything else, if you have many quads and you succeed your component automaticly tend to be on the higher side and everythime you make an mistake components will get lower, and on average hanyu gets around 94 points or so for components, not many people get more points for components than that and it will probably be even lower (90 or so at best) (Hanyu and javier get pretty high components) and even for Hanyu it's difficult to beat Nathan because Nathan has more quads. Don't start with spins and step sequences the highest rated spin (CCoSp4) gets 3.5 points and step sequence is for lv4 3.9 points, so since the introduction of the quads it became a must if you want to be able to win in the male competitions. so imo ISU need to change the rules to restrict the amount of quads, or give them lower points, rather not the latter because it is still dificult al all hell and I think they should get rewarded for it but male skaters often don't pay too mutch attention to their transitions in order to consentrate on their quads, again Hanyu and Javier are the rare skaters with very high performance and I think that is thanks to their coach but I'd love too see other skaters peform beautifully and get rewarded for it too

Tikika Quads are almost physics defying content and they deserve high score.Remember FS is a sport with two elements : technical and artistic. For the level of difficulty it's awarded. It's no just a ballet! Even that has technical element.

fyndhabhar agree!

Bob Mag I know and that is why I want figure skating to be a sport where people with high technical ability and people with high performance can win, but now it feels like it's impossible to win if you don't land at least some quads. of course to win a certain technical level is required but It shouldn't be so that the ones with highest technical skill always win. but that's just how I see it

artistry is subjective anyways. technical is all that belongs in the Olympics. the artistry can be saved for Disney on Ice and Cirque du Soleil.

right!

Suzanne I agree. I remember when jumps were high, open, and spectacularly graceful. People were actually marked down for the "wrapping" that is now necessary for triples and quadruples. Skating used to be half art, half sport. Now it is pretty much about technical feats and possibilities. I guess tastes change.

But figure skating isn't all about Artistry. Artistic Gymnastics literally las it in the name, but figure skating is an ever evolving sport. People thought that triples would ruin the sport too...

The artistry is the shittiest part, gymnastics is so much more interesting without all the fruity flourishes in between. If human can do it, why not?

Unfortunately, sometimes they don't. It is notoriously inconsistent/controversial in its judging

Why fishing when you can buy fish in the market? Why learning classical music while rapping is more popular? Not every person enjoy the same things. Many people like you who probably just come to the conclusion that figure skating is all about jumping, but there are many true fan out there who care about the artistry of the performance. And also probably because of the media you watch which keep hyping jumper, that leed people come to the wrong conclusion, like this video. Hope you understand.

@@lonelyspirit9532 Sorry, you misunderstood me. Or maybe I just didn't make myself clear. I mean the _media_ make it about the jumps and virtually ignore the artistry in between. Also, I think it's easier to judge technical skills objectively moreso than artistry. So people tend to focus on that more. It's easier to say, "He/she didn't do that well," about something with well defined parameters. When it comes to artistry though, it's mostly subjective and each person has their own idea of what's beautiful, graceful, awe-inspiring, etc.

@@lonelyspirit9532 aren't you the one who came to the wrong conclusion of this comment

yes that why it is sport. If you want enjoy art go in a theatre, concert, museum or sth.

Figure skating is not just jumping, that’s why Trusova did 5 quads at the olympics yet still lost to Anna. “All the things in between” absolutely matter

only because nathan was 20 points behind in the short. The six quads in his long was why he moved up in the long and actually won the freeskate by several points

Because Nathan totally screwed up his SP and didn't complete a single jumping pass? He was lucky he advanced to the free with what he presented then.

Nathan won that free skate by 8 more points than Hanyu. Yes, he won it with 5 clean quads. It's the short program that costed him the medal.

g g yea i agree but, in my opinion, his artistry couldve been better because it didnt really come across well enough, but that can be because its his first olympics

gglovinglife yea i watched and i felt bad for him because of those nerves and hes totally going to medal next time but then again i think those nerves really fucked up his artistry aswell

I wish you would take your grammar to the next level and realize that your use of "sport's" is not possessive.

lambiepie english may not be their first language. You could've asked them nicely, you unwanted pinch of salt

Lol Figure skating evolves but remains the same sport : an artistic discipline !

lambiepie please forgive me for having English as a secondary lenguage, and not paying much attention while I write a comment on KZfaq

*Yuzuru Hanyu , he's a great figure skaterrrr !!! 💛💛

Yeah but you still have skaters like yuzuru who add components only because they are beautiful. Like the ina bauer and hydro blading. He adds artistic components and enhances them with quads. I agree that most figure skaters seem to really just be skating around without much thought or artistry between jumps. But you see someone like Yuzuru skate? It's totally different.

I agree with you, but then there's Yuzuru. 😊

Ok that's enough yuzuru fangirls.

Looking at Yuzuru's fans...it's like watching a k-pop fandom ;)

P V Yuna Kim also had very artistic programs... too bad she retired though

SHINee's Noona lol, I feel like a proud mother

They're never going to support a foreign athlete during olympic season. They're an American channel after all

stell la exactly

stell la they featured shoma uno and he's Japanese

IceTiger Yurio In this video?

Saeedat Adesokan yeah I saw both Shoma and Yuzuru in this video. Also saw Javier, who's from Spain.

LMAO yeah. Nathans diehard fans really like acting like Yuzu is just this overhyped femboy when he's the greatest of all time when it comes to figure skating.

they are doing quads now in juniors but we'll see how it translates as they grow. Medvedeva's training a quad sal, Kihira I think is working on 4T (?) so, it's coming. It is dicking up the artistry aspect of it for the time being, but it is what it is: growing pains in an evolving sport.

I too don't believe that quads lack artistry, but just scoring wise some things irk me. For example, spins which is an element required atleast 2 times in the free program, it takes time, it saps energy like jumps, and it also make use of muscle power, the point is they might be easier than jumps but they are still not easy easy, but even the highest scores combination spins are still measly 3.5 I guess and what is up with that? Jumps on an average get a higher goe when executed well, but all spins, step sq, and choreo sq barely get a goe above 2 almost 95% of time. Why is that? What are the judges exactly looking for execution wise in them. And 1 level increase in these elements means a 1 point increase in score, so what does it matter whether a long step sq is level 3 or 4 when more points can be acquired by doing a jump well in goe only. It's these small things I think which are affecting artistry, because all these elements too need tremendous skills and athleticism, less than jumps for sure but still points on these shouldn't be so low.

PantsB4Squares True.

Yep. Look at Tiger Woods.

but does making harder things make them more artistic?

No, but the best figure skaters have more tools to bring dreams into reality. For example, instead of flapping one's arms while skating on the ice, a skilled figure skater can jump across to simulate the flight of a bird.

Yeah, but too many is not good either. All you see is jumps in performances these days

@@hopemoon9172 That sounds like a good idea. Would love to see that in a performance

Yuzuru's delayed single axel in Notte Stellata Ex

stevenaudet LOL IKR

Things changed a lot. I think a very few could do the compulsory figures nowadays. Also, 100 years ago doing figure skating did not damage the body so badly in such a short amount of time. Ladies already retire at age 17. 😕

Trusova

And I'm so sick of idiots like you claiming that Nathan lacks artistry. He simply has a different style of artistry. If you want dramatic, flowery, ornate, and feminine skating, go for Yuzuru. If you're in a completely different mood and want subtle, clean, more masculine, and precision artistry then go for Nathan. Something doesn't have to be in-your-face obvious to be art, btw. Learn to appreciate the fact that there's more than one style of art.

@@divinearia1601 It'd be nice if he at least skated on an edge every once in a while, not even deep edges just an edge. Or do a correct sit spin position. Some actual connections and transitions would be nice. Especially if they're gonna give him almost as high a PCS as someone like Jason. Also Yuzuru's skating can also be very powerful and masculine as well, he's just graceful when skating. And lots of other very masculine skaters are also graceful skaters. It doesn't have to be one or the other And idk, your whole "masculine" vs "feminine" and the not so subtle implication that one is much better than the other comes off sounding incredibly toxic, the same kind of mindset that had Nathan saying such homophobic things during that interview about needing to make the sport masculine since it was overrun by the gays (with how homophobic the ISU has always been??? And the basically 6 out competitive skaters in the world???) and too feminine and that is bad, and all the very fragile masculinity that hides behind those statements. Just something you should maybe think about, why you think masculine means what you think it does, and why it's the better way to skate.

@@divinearia1601 There is no doubt that Nathan lacks artistry. Nathan is technical hungry and can be argued to be the ISU'S favorite. Even his fans say that he lacks emotion, that they feel absolutely nothing watching him. While I respect him a lot and congratulate him heavily on his OGM, there is no artistic presence in his craft. He was literally doing a victory dance after/during Rocket Man. Additionally, calling Yuzu's skating feminine is just weird. I guarantee that you wouldn't be saying that if he didn't wear the outfits he did to competitions. If Nathan is your screaming, masculine, blank, perfect man then just say that. Yuzuru literally did nothing wrong!

@@notthemaincharacter7400...there is no doubt that you're just salty. If you think Nathan lacks artistry, that's your problem, not mine. I love his artistry while Yuzuru puts me to sleep. No doubt, you pulled the idea that Nathan is the ISU's favorite out of your butt. If you put it that way, pretty sure Yuzuru was the ISU's favorite child all those years while he was being given scores that were higher than everyone else's, right? And who the hell are all these Nathan fans who you claim are saying that he has no emotions in his skating, you liar? I doubt anyone who feels that way about Nathan would be a fan. Common sense. Do you know what karma is? For all the trashing and BS that fanyus have been making up about Nathan, you all got what you deserved, and Nathan received his good dues. Hope you nasty, spiteful bunch are enjoying the karma. Kind people always win.

@@divinearia1601 there is no way you think that yuzu is ISU's favorite. he is always massively underscored in basically any and every skating competition. yuzuru does beautiful transitions (rockers, twizzles, etc. out of quads), has textbook perfect jumps (no under-rotation, pre-rotation, deep edges), at least uses different edges when he skates, doesn't do just crossovers, mohawks and three turns into jumps, and he is still underscored. one of his best quad sals was only given a +3 GOE, when he landed it perfectly with a spread eagle entrance and rocker exit. ur comment is actually counterproductive by saying that nathan only won this season's olympics due to hanyu receiving "karma", and not saying that nathan deserved his medal?????

especiialy at 2:40; his leggs somehow combine and split out

100 000 subscriber with no video challenge Makes prefect sense tbh..

Gold

@@yessir1913 Yuzu might've won if there wasn't a gigantic hole in the ice! Also, it should be said that while Nathan won, Yuzu made history as the first person to do a 4A at the Olympic games! (Wasn't downgraded + certified)

Lia Guzman the back flip is actually banned because it can damage the rink. It is much easier to do than a quad jump.

Just cuz everyone cant pull it off, for backflip? its easy actually nowhere near to a quad. Watch how efortlessly Brian Orser does a backflip at the age of 49.

Wait but, in a counter clockwise jumper flip does take off from your left, and toe loop from your right. Are you talking about clockwise?

tawnyflower678 9 I'm talking about CCW. Flip uses right toe, toe loop uses left toe.

technically, they didn't specify whether they were talking about the right/left TOE or the right/left SKATING FOOT. (Sorry for the caps, don't know how to italicize) But either way, it was a bit vague.

I'm pretty sure they were talking about which foot has the outside edge, not the foot assisting the jump to take off.

Wait for the quints. Yuzuru Hanyu said in an interview that in order to prepare himself for the 4A he practiced quints. 😎

Oragami Cactus uh.... People have been attempting and landing quads since the late 1980s and 1990s.

That is also incorrect lmao. Men have been doing quads for years. But the one who started the quad revolution, is no other than boyang jin. He completed 4lz3t excellently and even executing 6 quads in both his sp and fp. Yuzu and javi jumped along and started the trend of 2 quads in sp. I will not tolerate boyang jin erasure from the quad history.

Nope it was boyang and then Fernandez and Hanyu who started following in his footsteps when it came to the quad

Canadian Kurt Browning was the first to Land a quad, check your facts.

@@DSQueenie We're not talking about the first person to land it, we're talking about the person who really popularized it