I’m so sick of people babying us with psychosis, acting as we’re incredibly dumb. This seemed so fun.

why is it so common in the wc community to get offended on behalf of a group of people you don't even belong to 💀

Cloudsnap had more effort put into him than canon background characters.

man it’s crazy how people think that making a fake character is ableist

Honestly the creator of Cloudsnap isn’t to blame for any of this, like you said it’s people’s own responsibility to keep track of their mental health if they see anything online that could potentially upset them. It was harmless! The hate was unjustified. People could’ve checked the wiki smh

i dont think its harmful purely because its just a book character. Perfectly mentally well people misremember stuff all the time, this is no different.

People with psychosis and mental problems with reality have to deal with things effecting them in the real world. Not if a fucking fictional cat was ever really a background character in a kids book. I honestly want to give a smack to the people against cloudsnap for the sake of helping those with those issues. Using someone else’s mental illness as a shield is fucking gross.

I’ve never once heard about this (probably because it seems like it was just a Tumblr thing), but as someone with psychosis: this is no where even close to being offensive or even psychosis related. Those that immediately went “omg this is so offensive to people with mental issues” really need to take a step back and let the people with the actual issues speak for themselves, no need to be a “hero”

I’m pretty sure Cloudsnap had a cameo/Easter egg in the movie Goncharov (or at least it was a cat who looked super similar). you can see Katya petting her in a super fast shot!

If you deal with psychosis so bad a fictional cat will send you into an episode, maybe you shouldn’t be online.

Wow, can’t believe the Warrior Cats fandom gaslit themselves into thinking that CloudSnap wasn’t a canon character. I thought the scene with him and Hawkfrost was super imposing at as kid !!!

the controversy was just... UNFATHOMABLY stupid. 😭 what a banger character, their reign will live on in history

as someone who deals with psychosis myself, i'm so mad ppl used that as an excuse to hate on cloudsnap. it's a fun character idea and if ur not sure if a character exists just... look it up? i constantly do that bc i can't always rely on my memory. idk why people think we're helpless babies that must be protected as we will be fooled by all misinformation lmao

So what im getting here is the project worked like a charm and people got mad they fell for it. Yes there was some worry of issue and the tags should have been enough to rectify it. Everything after was an over reaction because they got caught in the purpose of the project and proved its point. Fantastic lmao

It's essentially 'tumblr etiquette' to just block tags you don't like seeing. It's super easy to do. It does suck when there are people who refuse to tag for things like unreality because it 'ruins the joke.'

Having had severe psychotic episodes before, I really want to give all those who used it as an excuse to attack others a stern talking to. It's not forgetting characters, or being triggered by fake characters. It's feeling like reality suddenly turned on you, like you're going to be taken out at any moment by a force you 'believe' is real, maybe even 'see' & 'feel' it. More than anxiety, less than schizophrenia, but still an utterly terrifying experience. Very thankful that my circumstances & mental health are much better now. I can only speak for myself when I say this, but I wouldn't have blinked a dang eye at Cloudsnap. Like you said, there are so many background WC characters, I'd just believe that that was one of them. The only thing that'd tip me off is the shipping with Ivypool, because I already know that's not true, and could always look it up on the wiki if I didn't. That's how easy it is, and I've done 'reality-checking' before while in the thick of it. Personally, I feel whiteknighting on the Internet is at an all-time high. People are frustrated that they cannot enact change in the real world, so they take to the web to try and get some semblance of power, control, etc through their 'justice'. I wish they realized that they have more power than they even know, and that small-time bloggers aren't the real enemy. It's everybody who has caused these frustrating conditions to begin with, and they are laughing all the way to the bank thanks to this petty in-fighting between us. As aforementioned, there's also a severe lack of understanding regarding what psychosis is and how it presents. People think it's schizophrenia lite, but there's so much more to it. You may be psychotic and not even realize it, until you feel you can do anything. Maybe even that you've been the saviour of all mankind this whole time, since the delusions can be so powerful. Anyways, great video, especially for awareness on this issue. Really hope the creator of Cloudsnap's doing well, and that all who were impacted by this drama are having better days.

This is very intriguing. Not only because it became a “controversy,” but it seemingly succeeded in its first goal. That being: “do u think itd be possible to convince at least some portion of the Warriors fandom to believe in a fake cannon character”? It gained so much traction in its little circle of the fandom that it caused enough discourse BECAUSE people didn’t know. People second guessed themselves, people don’t read the books, and I can only assume some of the people that were upset actually, for at least a short period of time, believed CloudSnap was an underrated cannon character they simply hadn’t stumbled upon. Sure, it didn’t get to the Erins, but it made its point. Yes, technically if enough people get on board and with a bit of elbow grease, we can force a Mandela Effect into existence! It’s honestly neat to think about! Personally, I don’t see an issue in this. In the end, this is a discourse about a joke social experiment involving a silly little book series about battle cats in the woods that talk to stars. If such a small fallacy on the internet ((that was trying to poke at the authors lack of a series bible, might I add. Which they SHOULD have.)) gets people so ruffled up, they might want to consider stepping away from the screen for just a second. (The internet is a wretched place.) Especially if it got to the point of blaming the creator of the joke because completely different people weren’t tagging, or weren’t saying the character was actually fake. The point was for people not to know, and I think it was polite they used tags at all, because knowing the internet sometimes we don’t even get that much.

"this fictional background character cat being made up as a joke is harmful to people with psychosis" is the most Tumblr thing I've heard in a minute tbh

I was one of the first people to make fanart the night Cloudsnap was born and so it makes me excited to see people talking about her again! Some of the stuff you talked about I completely forgotten about haha. It was sad too see this little joke became controversial (espically since checking if she was real was, in my opinion, super easy) but ay, it's the internet, what can ya do?

As someone with psychosis the fact people think we're like. Soooo prone to falling apart just over misinformation on a cat kills me. Good god can people just see us as more than fragile???

this is my legacy... my grandchildrens grandchildren will learn abt cloudsnap. but for real though, this was super neat! i was actually kind of scared to watch this, since i was afraid of how youd handle the controversy part of cloudsnap. thank you for being so kind and understanding abt it, i remember having to stop looking through cloudsnap tags (and just warriors tags n blogs in general) for my mental health when stuff got rough, so its reassuring to me that ppl seem to generally agree that the treatment i got for starting the mmp was not justified. ive only recently been able to start enjoying cloudsnap as both a character and the project again, even if theyre no longer 'active' haha. but yea, this was fun! thank you for making it, cheers!

I struggle with my memory a lot and this probably would've messed with me if I had read far enough into the books to where Cloudsnap was said to be written in. It’s not that big of an issue and I likely would’ve figured it out after a few searches but I’m somewhat glad people are mindful enough to care about stuff like that. It definitely got too out of hand though and became people grossly overreacting. It’s thoughtful people care for people like me but the controversy just feels infantilizing. This is something I might be weirded out by and make me question myself but not to the point of it causing serious harm. I honestly love the concept behind Cloudsnap and would’ve participated in this if I was aware and active on tumblr. Practically gaslighting the Erins is a really funny idea and proves a point that they’re bad at keeping track of their characters. If the Erins believed it it could’ve been a good moment for them to realize they rely too much on the fandom to remember stuff for them. I also just like Cloudsnap as a character and honestly kinda wished she was actually canon. Her backstory is pretty grounded and cohesive for something made by a bunch of strangers on tumblr. I hope she’s not too controversial now to enjoy. She’s probably the most interesting warriors OC by origins alone and I think shouldn’t just be lost to the internet.

Unless there's someone who genuinely started freaking out because a cat doesn't exist in a fictional book then those people have no right to say that the whole CloudSnap situation is harmful Edit: I would delete this comment since I'm pretty sorry this caused a little bit of drama but I think it's good to look through the comments!

i am psychotic and the smallest things have been able to freak me out, however, PSYCHOTIC PEOPLE AREN'T STUPID, as any internet user, i am aware of the things that trigger me and i hide tags that relate to those things. i totally understand the ones mad at the ones who didn't properly tag it though. i myself saw cloudsnap on tumblr and quickly learned what the character was. i am sympathetic over ones that can get easily triggered but trying to baby us and speaking over us isn't the right way to protect people with psychosis

this situation is exactly why people say the internet is too sensitive nowadays. seriously, this was blown WAY out of proportion

this whole thing spiraled so bad and it makes me sad I deal with memory problems and derealization and I love the idea of fandoms coming together to basically making a fandom wide oc of sorts It only becomes a issue if folks are being rude or actually flat out not explaining the joke to people who dont get it and genuinely trying to gaslight folks and even threatening to block people for asking questions (which wasn't the case here at all but I've seen it go down with a similar case related to vocaloid on tiktok but then again tiktok is so much more toxic than most places) I hope this sort of thing becomes less controversial cause I would love to see more "fandom wide ocs" of sorts lol

Interesting fact about the name choice! I know it was decided from a generator among suggested names, but it's actually a really good thing that it came out as Cloudsnap! See, on the wiki, there's a documentation of every canon prefix and suffix and it shows how many times that name was used and who it was used on. Cloud- has been used a total of seven times (ignoring the DotC cat). That's is quite a lot for Warriors. But then you look at the suffixes! _There has never been a canon Clan cat as of either January of '22 or December of '22 named -snap._ So why was this name taken by the fandom as sounding believable? Because there are tons of OCs with that suffix! It's used so commonly no one recognizes it as weird anymore!

I almost want to reference Cloudsnap in this cat thing I'm making (not related to Warriors, but it might still be a fun little easter egg). Basically cats with powers, usually based around elements, given to them either at birth if born in the glade area or by some other deity. Maybe one of the other characters with the second type of power would basically have super charisma: making you able to believe almost anything...

For some reason this strangely reminds me of how heated I've seen some people get when they get told Dominoclaw isn't a canon character, his popularity got so huge that some people generally believed he was in the books themselves (also saw quite a few people mistake Rabbithop for Squirrelflight :/)

This is very interesting in hindsight. I only joined Tumblr last May, so I didn't see this Cloudsnap drama happening - I didn't even know about it until this video. But it happened again. The most popular meme on Tumblr in November was undoubtedly Goncharov. The original Goncharov meme came from an older Tumblr post about a shoe that was promotional material for a non-existent Martin Scorsese film, called Goncharov. The post recently resurfaced, and Tumblr went wild with it. Plot, characters, and themes were added to Goncharov, a fake movie written by the internet, with everyone acting like it was a real movie. And the same discourse happened. I've seen more posts than I can could telling people that Goncharov was a fake movie and for people to tag it as unreality. Goncharov was much more widespread than Cloudsnap, reaching number 1 on tumblr trending and even to the ears of Martin Scorsese himself, who played along with the bit. I'm sure everyone on warriors tumblr was experiencing total deja vu as Goncharov consumed their dashed. Luckily, Goncharov had a happier ending (at least the meme did. The movie? Not so much). Instead of it being subsumed in unreality/psychosis discourse, everyone appropriately tagged their Goncharov posts and let it fade peacefully as all memes did.

Honestly Cloudnsnap's discourse is the product of people wanting a reason to be offended. It's like if someone demanded that peanut butter be banned because they were allergic. It's peanut butter, some people are allergic but not everyone so why should everyone accommodate you?

I think it's so ironic that people got so mad about not tagging that they opted to attack people for having fun. I suffer from bouts of derealization (among other things) but I can easily say that I would sooner spiral into a bad episode if people harassed me for having fun with a silly little cat rather than someone not tagging a fake character.

Does anybody remember that cat who darktail killed, and then was on patrol next chapter?-

I have both psychosis and memory issues and if I came across smthn like this I'd be a little confused but then move on, honestly it feels kinda insulting to say this could cause an episode

A Cloudsnap Novella or Super Edition called Cloudsnap's Unreality would be an amazing fan project omfg-

With Goncharov being the biggest hit on Tumblr now, this seems so silly... like you gonna cancel all of Tumblr now and not just the warriors fandom lol? also kind of funny to see the warriors fandom did it first! Tumblr really did just want to Lie

"Warrior fans don't read the books" WAIT I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO READ THEM??

Yoooo! I was there day 1 for the Cloudsnap project, and the first day or 2 before the controversy caught on were super fun.

Dappltail got like 50 chances at life before just vanishing 💀

This whole situation was so chronically online 😭 as a person with psychosis I promise some background character that isn’t even real wouldn’t send me into some mental spiral atp it seems like certain people wanted to play a holy than thou role because they didn’t enjoy a joke

This is the Warrior Cats fandom. Of course people are going to take something harmless and twist it into some form of oppression. They're not happy without something to crusade against.

Cloudsnap seemed fun like.. he's a silly non existent dude!

Not only is it super easy to check for characters like that (if you wanna check at all. God knows i dont know half the background characters in warriors nowadays), but it also would prove the point that the Erins rely too much on the fandom for information. And if Cloudsnap did appear in a book, it would have been monumental for the fandom. In the End, the tagging was a good thing though, to accomodate people, but things got too out of hand for what wasn't that big of an issue.

I completed agree with your take. It’s for the individual to mind their own health, and as you suggested, searching it or blocking the tag are completely valid ways to deal with it. Honestly I don’t really see much of a difference between Cloudsnap and any other popular OC people may draw, its just roleplaying and actually I find the social experiment of “can we get the Erins to believe in Cloudsnap?” is a really interesting project and I’d have loved to see Cloudsnap get written into the books. I didn’t know about Cloudsnap until now but if I knew about them in the day I could see myself making fanart lol, it’s honestly a super interesting social experiment and I think the whole “damaging to mental health” bent of it kinda overshadows it. Cloudsnap was never made in malicious intent, they were just a “what if”, an OC shared by the fandom which frankly is really cool. It seems like information on Cloudsnap being fake was kinda readily available and honestly if someone did believe it, I don’t really see the harm. I’m autistic so I often get punked by stuff like that, like if I’d believed in the Mystery Flesh Pit when I first discovered it since that too is a project written as if it takes place in our own reality. There’s creepypastas and all sorts of works that are written as a “what if” parallel to our own reality. It’s my own job to figure out if something is real or not and to learn the social communities behind something, so when I hear a creepypasta for example I always know it’s fake. And if I wind up believing something then finding out its fake later on I guess I can just move on. I don’t understand why a cat should be so mind breaking to someone. In 20 years will you even remember Cloudsnap? Will you have faced many arduous trials of life and struggle with your very existence because of Cloudsnap? It’s just a dang fake cat. All the cats in Warriors are fake. I don’t think people should let a damn fake cat and some people having fun with them absolutely ruin their life and shatter their world. I can see it being troubling to people with memory problems (also something I struggle with) or who have difficulty separating reality from fantasy, but if you’re dealing with these problems in your life I really don’t think a fake cat should even be scratching your list of “troubles I must overcome”. If it is then maybe you’re just a little too chronically online, and frankly tumblr in it’s day people really suffered from being chronically online lol.

This reminds me of the time where the BBC Sherlock's fandom created a WHOLE character from old literature of Sherlock just to ship with series bad guy Moriarti - blogs, AUs, fanfic, fanart, fake gif sets (because people selected an actor who would theorically play as them) was a HUGE section of the fandom. Nobody brought up anything like this sort of this, he was basically a public domain fandom OC which is super cool when you think about it - an entire fandom created a whole ass OC from literally nothing, with lore, fan art, a ship It's sad that people have to be... people and bring up non-issues like this /:

While I was reading firestars quest I noticed that petal was called petal nose before she became a warrior and it only happened once

Doesn’t tagging it ruin the whole point which was to gaslight people into believing they were a real character 🤦

I could have 1000% been convinced that Cloudsnap was real, my memory is terrible and honestlly so many cat names were slightly recycled (Tigerstar/Tigerheart, Lionheart/Lionblaze etc) that I wouldn't doubt there being a second Cloudkit later on into my relationship with the series

Ultimately, even if a prank has the purest intentions lots of people don't like to look stupid/admit they were completely fooled, so they will treat it like a full on malicious attack. Some people can just laugh off a "good prank" an can say "Haha good one! Ya got me!" But a lot of folks on the flip side will react with stuff like "You did this to make me look stupid in front of everyone on purpose! You need to be perma-band, this caused me permanent emotional damage!!" In short, drama tends to fallow a big prank.

Cloudsnap is real in my heart. I blame my psychosis/hj

I wish cloudsnap was focused on trying to prank the erins above anything else, maybe then they soundly have gotten as much hate by people who don’t even have psychosis issues

i have memory problems bc of adhd and diagnosed bipolar which can cause psychosis, those people on tumblr be ffr a minor cat character from some book isn't going to send someone into a psychosis attack or a big freak out lmao, and if it does that person has way bigger problems and should be institutionalized in a ward if some fake side character in a book is going to make them have a huge meltdown because that's not a normal or mentally stable person that should be out and about. it makes me so mad when people do this especially when it's my own mental illnesses they're using, they make people with these illnesses out as super sensitive and fragile, that we'd freak out hugely over such a tiny thing. the majority of people that do this also usually are faking these illnesses/pretending they have it and overreact and dramatize the symptoms to gain more attention.

This is exactly the kind of content I want from warrior cats KZfaq. Diving into weird/obscure warriors content. Keep it up!

was this video inspired by the "goncharov" stuff on tumblr currently? i couldn't help but notice the similarities; tumblr loves making up group projects and i love that for them. as someone who suffers from psychosis, i don't think this project was in any way harmful. not only were there multiple posts stating that it was made up, but as you said there are many was to check this information; if this was done involving something genuinely important, then sure, but this was about an inconsequential background character in a children's book series

off to make cloudsnap fanart now ! The unreality misinformation stuff is tricky i think, as someone who is Frequently Confused I really appreciate the unreality tag. There was a trend on Tiktok last year where people were making jokes about shedding skin when on their period and I knew it wasn't true because it's just not true but everyone participating REFUSED to say they were lying and it was a bit, and some people even got mad whenever anyone informed confused people in the comments that it was a joke. This is because tiktok is a hellhole. Recently on tumblr the entire community collectively decided that there was a 1973 mafia film called Goncharov and posted discourse and fanart and analysis of it like it was a real movie, when it was actually Nonexistant and based on a joke about knockoff shoes. It's really fun and has formed its own fandom now, and something that many people kept in mind was the unreality tag, making sure to let people know that the movie doesn't actually exist. So yeah i think that if people are tagging it with unreality then the hate for Cloudsnap is kinda unjustified. Especially on tumblr, people do this kind of stuff all the time.

I think I need someone to explain to me exactly how this Cloudsnap thing could in any way be truly harmful to anyone? I just can't imagine such a scenario. I love most of the Warrior books. Though I was quite worried about how the us vs them clan loyalty issues were handled in the first few series. Now there is something that may actually have had some harmful effects. I would not be such a fan of the series today if the authors hadn't started to show the issues with the so called warrior code more clearly in the stories that followed.

I love when people get up in arms about stuff they didn’t fact check. If a fake cat character is traumatizing I can’t imagine how those individuals even use the internet considering there’s far worse things out there. The fandom can be so crazy sometimes over the smallest things it’s sad.

This is the Lightning Blitz drama all over again. Back in the day someone said that Lightning was their fictional character put into My Little Pony via connections to Hasbro (as there have been pony inserts among the MLP series) and everyone believed it to the point of crediting their fanart to the person. All it took was a few snappy tweaks to old art and the world believed it for a short while.

YES I loved the cloudsnap project, it was so fun to spectate and partake in (though I don’t remember if I did much, I think I drew a fake Warriors Wiki Sprite and that was it.) Glad it’s resurfacing!!! And I 100% agree. It’s not the posters fault if you aren’t being careful about the media you choose to consume!

I'm a huge fan of like, internet culture related stuff like this. The idea of making a fake character for the sole purpose of, basically "lets fuck around and find out" is simultaneously hilarious and super cool. The amount of work and detail that went into this project is pretty admirable tbh. It almost makes me wanna draw fanart for them- but i also don't wanna get skewered. But yeah, Imo- the deciding factor of wether this whole thing was bad or not is intent- and i dont think the creators had any malicious intent. As they said, it was just a joke- and it was only ever meant to be harmless fun. All im saying is people dont always tend to think about the wider implications of 'on a whim' jokes, and they almost certainly expect those jokes to become massively popular, even if becoming popular was part of the plan.

Thank you for actually including the music you used!!! The music from Petz Catz 2 was hitting such a nostalgia spot that I couldn't place.

I have no clue about any warrior cat lore, I haven't read it ever or anything but I have so much fun watching the drama about it, it is so entertaining. Great video! Also as a person with psychosis... lmaooo how would that even "trigger" us in any way? People don't know anything about it and it shows.

I love this and I truly wish it was a successful mission. Rip Cloudsnap.

I dont see how its harmful. If youre upset by it grow a spine. If youre upset on behalf of someone else, why not ask the group of people youre upset for before getting worked up on their behalf. Theres many ways to figure out if something is real or not on the internet. If youre not capable of looking something up when you literally have a computer in your hands at all times then youre the problem. Dont be mad because youre not in on a joke. join in and have fun with the rest of us.

do any of you remember greenflower?? she was a queen talking to silverstream in the first series im pretty sure, but shes not in any of the allegiances.

schizotypal here. honestly, this shouldn't even be considered unreality. it's not harmful gaslighting, paranoia-inducing, or uncanny, so even tagging it is a bit frivolous (although it doesn't hurt). even with goncharov (1973), which you could hardly get away from on tumblr at its peak, i assumed it was real, found out it wasn't, and was like "ah, it's a bit, alright" and moved on. from this, it doesn't seem like anyone in the cloudsnap situation was seeking to mislead those with disorders that affect one's perception but yeah, people who experience psychotic symptoms / have disorders on the schizospectrum aren't idiots. we're not constantly on the brink of total loss of connection with "reality". i also think bug-meats handled it gracefully and did the best they could to diffuse the situation, so kudos to them. cloudsnap is neat, went into her tag and really love the art, perhaps she can have a resurgence in the future

Honestly I thought that Cloudsnap was just a popular oc or au that people were making fan art of. I literally made a drawing of Cloudsnap in StarClan with Reedkit and Swankit without knowing what she was. This fandom is just great sometimes.

yooo hands up if you were there for cloudsnap's creation :D she was made and molded by funky people running with a wild idea and i think that's super dope, i personally love seeing all kinds of art of him!!

All jokes aside, in my opinion CloudSnap was a magnificent project showing a gorgeous ability of trickstery. It was a wonderful test of the Warriors knowledge, and I think NO ONE deserves not even a tiny amount of any hate

Cloudsnap and Goncharov are the 1# proofs that Tumblr’s favorite sport is lying

I feel like you went over it perfectly and explaining stuff that is going on in the fandom can help people who may end up feeding into harsh comments without thinking about it. Side note There are both a lot for fan made ocs that aren't tagged as fan made at all times and the cats that vanished because of the authors. I think people should be able to have fun unless it's hurting someone and then reaching out to the artist kindly is the best course of action most times because artists are people. It irritates me is that they were harsh to the creater who was trying there best. (Srry for any misspellings) (Srry if I got anything wrong aswell) Hope everyone has a lovely day

as long as cloudsnap didnt harm anyone it shouldnt matter. as one person said, just block the tag and/or the users, it isnt that hard

this kinda reminds me how when I was younger I was convinced Dominoclaw was a canon character bec of all the art n such he has (and at that point I had stopped reading so I assumed it was just a new character I missed)

That little list for information places ( I no longer can brain ) showed us the most forgotten place, the best place, to get you Warriors information. THE BOOK!

This project made the online fandom lose its crap: it made the cloud snap. And she got that name from a randomiser?? It literally describes the character's life purpose! No idea how the video landed in my recommended btw, idek Warrior Cats. Gg on winning the algorithm over! 👑✨

Can't believe the fandom Goncharov'd a cat

I have to wonder how many actual people with that kind of condition actually had a problem with it, and how many people kicking up a fuss were using those people's existence as a convenient excuse to stamp out something they just personally didn't like?

The Goncharov of the Warriors Fandom

1:27 To be fair, in into the wild blue star says thunder clan has less warriors than the clan ever had before(or something along those lines) so that could be why there’s such a drastic difference between the number of cats

6:28 I really like that an effort was made to help, it was just a lighthearted joke but that didn’t stop the creator from tryna help. That’s just nice

I have memory issues and I would find this hilarious if I were in the fandom

I’m sorry but “it’s harming people with psychosis” is suuuuch a reach... the internet is literally full of fake characters passed off a real (see simpsons graggle for ex) and if someone had such a severe reaction to a fake character I’m not sure how they are able to even be in a fandom...

I don't think Cloudsnap is any more harmful than any other alternate universe OC from any other fandom. It's just funnier here because there's a good chance the Erins could've seen that and been like "uh oh, better put Cloudsnap back in before there's a riot, here she is at a Gathering guys" before realizing it wasn't a real cat. And if that's what people are mad about, they're mad at the wrong people since the Erins should be aware of their own cast.

6:11 - my old art jumpscare 💀💀 (the caption was a reference toa meme btw)

oh my god the jump from "teehee silly fake cat" to "people with psychosis will explode" is so fucking funny

Can I just say that I love your voice? It’s really calming

As someone who suffers from heavy disassociation and yet really loves stuff like this, unreality tags are pretty important and super good to use!! It can be triggering when the places you go to for escapism and fun may end up bleeding into your current issues even more, and while I don't think anybody deserves heavy scrutiny for this, I feel like it'd be nice to have it properly tagged so people can avoid stuff like that on really bad days using filters and stuff. Tags are quite helpful as reassurance that I'm not making up yet another thing that isn't actually real. To a certain extent, I think at least some of the effort to encourage the use of tags is well-meaning and useful!

Cloudsnap walked so Goncharov (1973) could run

The way this turned sour made me roll my eyes. Most of the posts had tags that said unreality or (if you did some basic research) you would’ve immediately found out that it was a fake character. I guess we can’t have fun anymore? And the whole thing about it “potentially triggering people with psychosis” is weird. It’s a drawing of a fictional character geez.

I think this was a really interesting and fun sounding project. It seems pretty harmless too and not like it was created with malicious intent. Kinda makes me wanna check out more stuff about Cloudsnap or make something, I might do that tbh.

I thought u were going to say something like “the controversy reached its peak in (book) where Cloudsnap canonically appears”

cloudsnap walked so goncharov could run

I love your videos so much!!!!

I guess I share a birthday with a fictional cat that a bunch of people thought was canon for a while

Ok but am I the only one who thinks this whole idea sounds absolutely hilarious. I understand how it could potentially be triggering to people, but as long as those people do what they need to to avoid it, I think it's pretty funny

seeing a video about this is insane since i was super active on tumblr at the time of all this and watched it all go down in real time lmao i never made any art of cloudsnap but watching the whole thing was so fun at the time and i wish it didn't have to end how it did

Cloudsnap walked so Goncharov could run

I was a part of the Cloudsnap thing, somehow LMAO I remember getting so incredibly angry at people who said "omg this is offensive towards people with psychosis!". No. Let people with psychosis speak for themselves- honestly, did people saying this even KNOW what psychosis is? Lmao But anyways, I think it was a super fun project, and I was really rooting for the Erin's writing Cloudsnap into the series But again, if the character did make people uncomfortable, then that's respectable I was just upset at the people who didnt know the hell what psychosis was lmao

I think it would have been fucking hysterical to see cloudsnap appear in a book, I would love to see the erins get tricked into adding a cool fan character into cannon

this is, i think, the 3rd time i've seen this sort of thing happen on tumblr and it's always the same discourse. there was a dsmp mmp, goncharov which which didn't even come from a fandom, and now this one. it always ends up with massive discourse about unreality tags and psychosis.