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@williambrewer63465 жыл бұрын
That wood looks really nice! We're looking forward to seeing you make some Beautiful Furniture. Happy Milling!
@JoeMama-cl8cm3 жыл бұрын
Necessity is definitely the mother of invention. Nice boards too by the way. That pine smell is always nice when cutting fresh boards.
@SG-qg3qv5 жыл бұрын
That was one of your best videos so far! I can’t wait to see the upgrades you make to your mill. I hope you film everything. The rooster popping his head up in the back of your truck was hilarious.
@timgraaff75515 жыл бұрын
Good job! Those boards are beautiful!!
@richardcorwin55295 жыл бұрын
Man, that is some beautiful pine! All that work makes it worthwhile.
@talk2kev5 жыл бұрын
Some good looking lumber going to come out of that fall. You could drag lifting only one end. Also connect your chain closer to the 3 point to left heavy loads and if you are still getting front end lift move your load in reverse it will put the front end back on the ground. Great project post up when your table is finished . Awesome video
@mikesharp40335 жыл бұрын
I love working in wood in my retirement; although those planks are bigger than I had in mind! Great presentation. Best wishes from Linslade, U.K.
@bethpeelar34355 жыл бұрын
Pretty wood, love pine. I have two sets of pine shelves that I finished when I was 15, I am 63 now. The color of the aged wood is beautiful. Dark golden brown with a hint of red in it. Love pine.
@stevepoore24105 жыл бұрын
Beautiful boards! You can`t find that good of lumber in the store! Thanks for the videos.
@petershale99405 жыл бұрын
Good video as always, looking forward to the ramp build, stay safe.
@MeekoSan5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Nice job getting the log on the mill! A case of the end justifying the means. 🙂
@dalebrames55735 жыл бұрын
From log to table. The slabs leaning against your truck looks like a beautiful table to me. When you get it done please share. Great videos. I enjoy them very much
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dale. Appreciate you watching.
@charleshoward99835 жыл бұрын
sweet very good lumber, thanks for sharing!
@amykrell99845 жыл бұрын
I love all the different angles of the video!! great editing!!
@kenjett24345 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those old Ford 3,000 tractors we had one when i was a young lad. You certainly pushed it to the limit but they are tough and can take it. Those boards at the end of this show exactly why having your own bandmill is worth every penny it cost. It would not take many boards like those to pay for a mill. Nice job filming this i would certainly hire you as a cameraman for sure. Turning out to be a pretty darn good sawyer also.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Ken Jett It’s definitely a tough little tractor. Appreciate you stopping by as always, Ken. Thanks for the kind words too!
@butternuthillfarm15995 жыл бұрын
Beautiful log and slabs. I think I can smell that fresh cut pine all the way up here in southern Indiana. Great video.
@practicallyIndependent5 жыл бұрын
AWESOME LOG! That mill and tractor got a good workout today. Well done.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike!
@glg39455 жыл бұрын
Beautiful wood! Scary process. Glad it all worked out. Peace and Good Fortune to you and your family.
@MrArthurBard5 жыл бұрын
Great Vid! Thanks for sharing!
@martic515 жыл бұрын
I like all the different camera angles, good job!
@jimmydiamond3535 жыл бұрын
The guys doing his best
@MichaelHarrisIreland5 жыл бұрын
The wood looks beautiful. Nice job
@throngcleaver5 жыл бұрын
I think I cant, I think I cant, I think I cant. Yay! Great job getting that beast up there and sliced into fine looking lumber!
@warpig49425 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid and the tractor went nose up, pops just had me sit on the front of the tractor. Yes, I survived childhood.
@robertgoss48424 жыл бұрын
Your pops knew exactly what he was doing: showing you you're able do much more than you may have thought. Good story!
@thuss51624 жыл бұрын
We survived. today the snowflakes are having a tough time coping with work
@TallCanDan024 жыл бұрын
@@thuss5162 ok boomer
@timesthree57574 жыл бұрын
@@TallCanDan02 you do realize that most boomers are dead. Yer probably talking to a gen xer. So dont disrespect people just because you want to be an ass.
@Xiph19804 жыл бұрын
@@thuss5162 _you_ survived. Those who didn't aren't here anymore to tell you you're wrong. And there are plenty who didn't. Go to any cemetery older than 100 years, and make a list of all the graves' birth year and age at death. In excel make a scatterplot with the year of birth on the x-scale, and age at y. You'll notice a lot of people with lower age at death in the past. But yeah, you survived. That's some fine survivor's bias you're showing there.
@MichaelJeffers755 жыл бұрын
WOW, it's nuts that over a quarter million people watch wood milling in less than a month!
@jimb93695 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@galadhlinn5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 LT40. With experience, I simplified even more. The height of my mill is two inches lower than the height of my trailer that I haul me logs on (22' 17,500# deck over axles). This provides me a very slight down ramp, perfect really. I adapted the steel log ramps that came with the mill to hook onto the edge rail the the trailer. I no longer off load my trailer to log decks (well very rarely) only to move them again to the mill. I pull the trailer up to the mill(takes a few minutes to get it aligned right), hook up the ramps, and roll the first log onto the mill. Easy-peasy as they say. I have an 8,000# Ramsy winch at the front of the trailer I use with a snatch block to slide the logs forward or back to align with the steel ramps. Once I am about halfway through sawing the logs on the trailer, I move the remaining logs closest to the side facing the mill. Then I start loading the lumber on the backside of the trailer. When I am done, the trailer is ready to drop off the lumber in stacks or go to delivery. I'm a one-man operation which means I only have one back and one man's time to do everything. This setup saves may back and a ton of time, not to mention wear and tear on my other equipment.
@myredute5 жыл бұрын
Damn fine job on a brilliant machine.Lovely timber!
@robertgoss48424 жыл бұрын
I only recently discovered your channel and now, I've watched three or four of your videos. I love to watch milling, and your programs are great. Compliments on your camerawork, framing and editing. Can't say the same for most YT videos. You should give lessons.
@donlatimer51145 жыл бұрын
I would make a log deck out of 6 x 6 maybe 10 to 12 feet long then put your ramps leading up to it. I would make the deck about an inch or two above the sawing deck , that should make loading the logs onto the saw deck much easier
@benningtonwoodworks85005 жыл бұрын
Only hook halfway back on your boom pole will give you more leverage for lifting and won’t be as hard on the tractor. Nice log you have there 👍
@ronthacker2115 жыл бұрын
Absolutely... done it many time with my 8N.
@altonfindley69645 жыл бұрын
Yes , I agree and why is your saw so high ??¿ Leverage. That's working against ya too. Keep it up. Nice work
@mm97735 жыл бұрын
That’s what she said.
@anguscattle5805 жыл бұрын
and if he had hooked 1/2 way back on the boom, he probably could have picked up the entire log without making 4 foot of it into firewood.
@rodgerosborn48285 жыл бұрын
better solution---- lift one end up on mill chain loosely pick up other end pick it up swing onto mill
@neypimentel4795 жыл бұрын
23 years and we have tree pines and logs here in Brazil like these in U.S. Lobolly an Slash pine..we have here!Thanks sun !
@awldune5 жыл бұрын
Did they introduce those for reforestation? Very interesting!
@aporter7014 жыл бұрын
Watching an older video cutting 6' pine into 2" slabs. You've come a long way from that day!👍
@TheRinkboss5 жыл бұрын
Nice pine , it will make a great looking table ..Great vid bud
@GreatPlainsCraftsman5 жыл бұрын
Really beautiful pine Wes.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Great Plains Craftsman Thanks, Tim! Hope you’re staying warm out there.
@mrpatrickwilson15 жыл бұрын
That’s a big pile of fire wood. See MAN about TOOLS for really neat jig for cutting up all your slab wood into kindling and fire wood. Great video as always, love your multiple camera mounting positions. Looking forward to the ramp project.
@noneofyourbusiness35535 жыл бұрын
@All the arseholes tossing out names regarding this video. The man isn't a disgrace, or propagator of clickbait or etc... He's new at the game. That has value in itself. If he's still at it in 10 years, he'll go back and see what he's changed with that much more experience. I give credit for him trying a trade that is difficult at the best of times. @Fall Line Ridge : I've been at this type of thing for over 30 years... Make yourself a list of things you need for your mill. On the top of that list put a front end loader for your tractor. Second thing that should be on your list is a skidway for the logs prior to the mill. Third is a rack for your slabs (not the boards or lumber. I mean the offcuts). Nobody makes money walking slabs that far. Process the slabs as close to the mill as possible. In the mean time. A log that is too large for the tractor should be skidded. Yeah its going to pick up sand and stones but, a blade is far less expensive than an axle for a Ford 3000. Cut yourself a pair of 6x6x16 or 6x8x16 and lay them in on a slope upto the mill. Until you get a loader for your tractor, roll your logs up that slope. Smaller stuff can be loaded from the other side. Good luck from an oldtimer that broke the code.
@jamesthompson78255 жыл бұрын
Beautiful wood! I hope you share pictures of the table when it’s finished.
@willaimr.kirkland81704 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Takes me back to when I visited back woods mills in North Florida (about 68 years ago). Of course, those mills used the old style saw blades 4 or 5 feet in diameter.
@captgringo5 жыл бұрын
Good job, really nice lumber! Be careful.
@chrisbishop89794 жыл бұрын
New to your channel. I watched a few older videos on your LT10. Very impressed with your attention to detail. Great camera angles!! I also scrolled through the rest of your videos. Great variety!! I am interested in a Wood Mizer sawmill. I’ll be asking you a few questions! I SUBSCRIBED!! Chris in MN.
@JMo268 Жыл бұрын
Love those Ford 3000 tractors!
@jbjbuild5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@JOHNTHE8TH15 жыл бұрын
Great video, like the "saw cam"
@jamesmccorkle84485 жыл бұрын
Wait until you get your hands on some hardwood.
@richardsimpson31365 жыл бұрын
I must have sneezed and missed the Dangerous Part!
@GVH13055 жыл бұрын
Agree. Also, most dangerous part was not wearing safety goggles, ear protection etc.
@johnk36065 жыл бұрын
Richard Simpson The scary part was the extra 3 feet of the log that needed to be cut into two pieces to make it safe. If he would have made one cut he would have had that scary 36 inch log that could have been sawn up and used in all sorts of ways.
@DrJohn4934 жыл бұрын
Musta been a helluva sneeze!
@rogerdickinson9204 жыл бұрын
Clickbait...No PPE. Have there been any UTubers badly injured...anyone know the answer??
@ChrisR19465 жыл бұрын
Only found your site yesterday, great films................
@nellytalford71195 жыл бұрын
I love that wood....keep up the good work.
@crazycanuck25785 жыл бұрын
That's a very nice milling machine. Those planks sure are nice and solid and Heavy, Like the famous line from the movie Jaws, "You're going to need a bigger boat", well, "You're going to need a bigger tractor", lol
@KS-zt5zp5 жыл бұрын
Well done. Nice sawmill.
@buddydeal76955 жыл бұрын
Good video! Tilley! Tilley!
@iain19694 жыл бұрын
I think it takes courage and humility to post a video of yourself doing something where there might be a better way to do it - then conclude with the lessons learned and how you might do it differently next time. That's how you learn and improve in life. The gaggle of KZfaq 'armchair experts' (who are obviously perfect) might want to ponder this thought prior to commenting. Thank you for the video and I enjoyed it immensely. Greetings from downunder.
@howardfortyfive96765 жыл бұрын
That is some mighty fine looking slabs you cut on that portable mill.
@Mrjohnboyd19594 жыл бұрын
THE MOST DANGEROUS LOG THAT YOU EVER MILLED? WOW! Boy, I have to see this....I can’t wait! Can any or you readers? Not me. Slight title embellishment, don’t you think?
@donald68154 жыл бұрын
He only milled three, see how new is the equipment.
@CathyInBlue5 жыл бұрын
FLR! Pioneers of the chainsaw cam! We learned that you need a 24" lathe to make a couple of large pine bowls.
@josephsuva66764 жыл бұрын
imm enjoying watching your videos good luck and take good care my friend....
@mlt63223 жыл бұрын
You should watch a couple of Matthew Cremona's videos. He uses a winch cable around his logs to pull them up onto his trailer and sometimes onto his mill when they are really big.
@annpage30853 жыл бұрын
Beautiful wood....Ann From Georgia
@TheFalconJetDriver5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! The drone footage was great too! In Aviation I have a saying “You must know your limitations” you may have learned one of yours with the current technique of moving timber. You produce some wonderful videos and I enjoy watching the rewards you reap from all the hard work you do. I just wish I could be there to smell the saw dust. Living in West Texas I can do all my milling on a 17 inch band saw. I grew up back east where we have trees. Here we have mesquite bushes, they get pretty big. I have milled a few of the logs but I have not found a good use for it other than fire wood.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
TheFalconJetDriver Appreciate it! Glad you enjoy the videos.
@DrJohn4934 жыл бұрын
Couple of suggestions; wear gloves or take that ring off...better yet, do both. Damn near got my ring finger pulled off (with gloves on!!) working with machinery like this. Use/wear hearing protection if you're not already. Otherwise your spouse will have to shout at you in the future (this from experience). Ditto the counterweights on the front of the tractor! You're loosing steering ability. Air up your rear tires. Never, and I mean never, operate any controls on the tractor without being in the seat. Saw your waste slabs a bit thinner...a few more passes but it will save your back in the long run. If your going to keep sawing logs this size or larger, get the biggest tractor you can afford, preferably with a quick attach front end loader. Trust me, I've learned all these things growing up on a farm and running a portable sawmill. Things you did right; wearing leg chaps while using the chainsaw. Recognizing how you overloaded your tractor (a biggie!).
@txman2015 жыл бұрын
That heavy log wouldn't be nearly as difficult to lift if you didn't use the longest fulcrum point on your lift boom! You obviously never attended "farmboy 101 class". If you lift using a point CLOSER to the tractor on the boom, you can lift a lot more weight. Adding temporary counterweight to the front of the tractor will help as well.
@truthseeker19605 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought.
@VAspeed35 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@jakewalter37294 жыл бұрын
Brian Wysoskey u
@jakewalter37294 жыл бұрын
VAspeed3 j
@craigmooring20914 жыл бұрын
I was going to point that out also. You could have moved the 8.5 ft. section easily by moving the suspension point 3 or 4 ft. closer to the tractor.
@wesreeder67215 жыл бұрын
WOW. Nice grain there. It should be real nice for your home when its all cut & dried. I got an ol international tractor and Benningtons is right. If you hook on to it with half your boom you could have got the whole log. None the less. that tracktor you had. lol. The rear tiers were almost flat. You really scored with those pine logs though. Nice work man.
@larrymbouche5 жыл бұрын
My favorite scenes were with the Stealth Chicken. Please include more of the same. Love your log and slabs.
@MarkLilloGuitars4 жыл бұрын
The drone footage is a nice addition to your videos.
@margaretpervier8357 Жыл бұрын
That’s going to be a thick/heavy table. The wood is beautiful 😊
@Brandon.Fischer5 жыл бұрын
That’s an archaic Husky! I like it!
@SilverBack.5 жыл бұрын
Nice looking straight grain lumber
@tkishkapesilurian42813 жыл бұрын
I regularly load 16 ft logs of that diameter with my small tractor. I simply lift the large end a few inches and drag the log to the mill over the leaf mast. I then use the forks to lift the large end slightly over the mill bed. Use a short chain to secure the log in this position, release the forks and lift the other end to the mill bed, again securing the log to the mill. I then release pressure of the forks and roll/push the log into the desired location. Set dogs and remove chain to complete the log raising. Works for me. The leaf mast prevents rocks and dirt from coating the log.
@andrecloete20065 жыл бұрын
Shorten the boom and put weights on the front of you tracktor.
@sandmandave20085 жыл бұрын
Or, he could have backed oriented the log perpendicular to the tractor and hooked it to the loop half way along the boom. Much less leverage to lift the front end.
@christianboddum87835 жыл бұрын
What a sweet log :-)
@billsutherland21285 жыл бұрын
I belong to a sawmill club, and we have both a log deck and a complex pulley system that will lift logs like you handled with ease. "Give me a lever, and I'll lift the world."
@piledriver1415 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. A man can do a lot with leverage from the other side of ramps you build.
@PaulOtis5 жыл бұрын
Love the chicken photo bomb! Nice job as always!
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@frankdeegan89745 жыл бұрын
Other saw millers have stated dragging logs on the ground embeds stones and dirt in the log, Some also debark the log before milling to save the blade from cutting into the dirt and stones in the bark after dragging. The area where you have your mill set looks like you have the room, you can use the tractor to pull the logs up the ramp, using a winch is one more expense and one more thing to break down.
@DrJohn4934 жыл бұрын
Theoretically correct but never had that problem myself since I check for such before sawing.
@pboulware17375 жыл бұрын
Awesome job I know how it is working with the boom lift. I have had to use the closer lifting point on the boom closer to the lift arms for heavier loads. It doesn't lift as high but it does help put more weight on the front axle. keep on a tractoring and a cutting!!
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul!
@VKMilling5 жыл бұрын
That's some good looking pine you've got there! I hate that you had to trim it down to get it on the mill but we all have to do it sometimes.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
I hated it too, but the slabs turned out great! Thanks for watching.
@VKMilling5 жыл бұрын
@@falllineridge man, if I lived even an hour closer, I'd have come down with the 35.
@robertbeaulieu87215 жыл бұрын
The heart wood is only good for 4x4 to stack on. Helps relieve the stress in the lumber, couple of boards flip until you end up with 4 by 4 most of those wide planks you will need to split as they will cup.
@mikestolpp91955 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the finished table top. Will you make beaches? You most likely have chairs or will you make them your self? Beautiful wood!!
@MrGeroth5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@trampster73065 жыл бұрын
Nice Pine slabs! You need to get somebody with a welder to make you up a weight frame to bolt on the front of the tractor, and hang some weight on it - give you more capacity on your boom pole!
@trampster73065 жыл бұрын
This will give you some idea of the original Ford items: thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/ford-3000-weight-frame-and-weights.39918/ But I remeber my cousin making up a box out of 1/4" plate steel & just filling it with anything heavy he had around, some thing like this one: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ford_3000.jpg
@theshadow15595 жыл бұрын
One problem is that you are using your tractor to drag the log. Next time, slightly raise (12") the front end of the log by attaching it to the tractor boom, then attach a skid board under the rear end of the log, the tractor will then be able to pull the log to its destination. Second, once the log is parallel to the saw mill's bed, attach two large skid boards outward from the saws bed to the ground where you have the log waiting to be milled, then place the tractor on the opposit side of the bed and attach a come-a-long from the raised tractor boom (max height) to the log and bring the log onto the saw's bed by pulling it onto the saw's bed using the come-a-long. Hope this helps.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
The Shadow Appreciate it!
@bryansnewandused5 жыл бұрын
I never use the clamp until it gets smaller in size. The weight of the log will hold it in place. It just saves time.
@CCTOOLE5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who can dramatize the danger of sawing one cut log in a sawmill needs to be in Hollywood. Or on the damn internet. Good grief.
@xrisdavid7855 жыл бұрын
Yer T-shirt has a hole in the left underarm @ 12:44 -- LOL.....nice setup fella !!
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Ventilation!
@hardyakka62005 жыл бұрын
You could have gotten the whole log on your mill with a few old timers tricks. You could have dragged it into mplace beside the mill, placed poles between the log and propped them on the mill. Go around the opposite side and rolled it up the ramp using a chain wrapped around the log. That is how they got large logs onto wagons.
@Pocketfarmer15 жыл бұрын
hard yakka it’s an ancient technique called parbuckling.
@pulaski14 жыл бұрын
I moved a 1,300lb white oak log about 40ft up a 10% grade using a crowbar and wedges - the log was 7ft long and massively bigger at the butt end - about 26" v 20" at the small end, so really awkward to roll. I had rolled it about 60ft far using my truck and a 100ft chain wrapped around it, but in the end using the crowbar and wedges was actually easier.
@davewitham33432 жыл бұрын
22 Dia pine 95 lbs a foot.
@etem.a.49745 жыл бұрын
Beautiful grains there
@jerrylittle89225 жыл бұрын
You can put two skids against your mill rails...wrap chain around the centerof log and pull it up with tractor from the opposite side.
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea. Thanks!
@sawyerrob9495 жыл бұрын
It's called parbuckle, and I was amazed he didn't do that. SR
@jerrylittle89225 жыл бұрын
Sawyer Rob 👍
@jerrylittle89225 жыл бұрын
Sawyer Rob My granddaddy use to load big logs the same way with Mules. Many moons ago.
@TheByard5 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest the same thing, or even a Come Along anchored to a tree.
@briangorter71505 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of ideas to throw around. Just new to your channel but noticed that you don,t wear gloves when handling the timber, maybe a cheap pair would be better than nothing. Also, a piece of wood the width of the black stabilizer posts could be screwed to the side of the wooden rails which would keep you from having to get them from underneath the mill rails on the ground and off the the dirt. Finally, that ramp hopefully is not far away to help you put the logs on the mill easier. Not sure of your first name, but i really like your channel mate!!!! All the very best for your future milling endeavors and look forward to your videos.
@dantco5 жыл бұрын
You'd better copyright that Can't Cam!!! Great video! I had a tree service drop 30 loblolly pine logs that looked like this one, but with sap pouring out. Beautiful wood.
@jamesspears51275 жыл бұрын
I have cut lobiolly pine that big and bigger sap no longer gives me a problem pine sol and water keeps my blades clean
@dantco5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesspears5127 I used Dawn dish soap in the blade cooling water, but still sap all over the bunks and non-moving parts from my gloves. I'm going to try Pinesol in the water and in the machine cleanup. Thanks!
@freightdawg67625 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@mpkinc5 жыл бұрын
Boy, you have a tough audience, dude!
@gatito26805 жыл бұрын
nice. job. amigo.
@rmartin78465 жыл бұрын
Those slabs will make a nice country dining table.
@gkeefer25955 жыл бұрын
I help my neighbour and we lowered the deck to about a 1' off the ground and put ramps / rails so logs can be rolled up. Yes keep gravel and dirt off the bark. We sometime pressure wash the logs first. Hang a bucket under the sawdust chute. After each log dump the bucket away from the side of your mill, a bit safer and easier to keep clean. Nice clear wood though.
@mounbakko58714 жыл бұрын
... don’t know why I feel jealous of the yield from the log.... good looking slabs
@jeffmartin14075 жыл бұрын
Invest in an old dually truck, 1 ton or heavier. put a lift boom on it. well worth the effort, and you`ll find use for it more than you think. nice video, nice job on the planks. those telling you about the board you "wasted" forgot about the two inch log taper. skin cuts usually don`t yield much leftover.
@seanwilson20805 жыл бұрын
I've seen you mention blue stain a few times and a simple solution to that is to spray the log down so it doesn't dry out on you and start to stain.
@courtneykachur94874 жыл бұрын
You got a huge open area there. You should plant trees now for your retirement account. Expensive wood growing on your own property.
@oxfordman5 жыл бұрын
Check the air pressure in your back tires.......they look low. Thanks for the vids!
@falllineridge5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it and thanks for watching!
@edwardleroy76485 жыл бұрын
And some trac weight in the front tires.
@kelshadou5 жыл бұрын
I hate that you had to sacrifice length to lift it up. When I got started milling, the first couple of pine logs I milled into 4x6 inch cants and fashioned them into ramps about 7 ft long. With the ramps and a small tractor I was able to use a cable wrap to pull an 11 ft long, 34 inch diameter red oak log onto the mill. It was in the neighborhood of 3000 lbs, but I did have two other guys helping to steady the log. The biggest challenge was turning the cant once we started milling. I hope to someday add the hydraulic lift and such, but until I can afford it, the ramps are a good investment.