Okay good. Phew.

@@maxderratnope, that was funny

@@maxderrat don't worry, I still remember when 4 was the black sheep of the series. It’s the only team silent game I’ve not finished. Heck I’ve beaten 3 of the Western-made games, (just have to beat 4 and Origins and I can call myself a proper Silent Hill fan again lol oh and also short message if I can get past feeling motion sickness in the first person view lol)

@sonicsean34 Heh. Ya. I remember when 4 was hated on for not being as good. Nowadays Id love a silent hill game as good as 4. But I am an old. I played the first 4 games in late HS/early 20s. think if I was not an old, I might have more appreciation for the later 4 than I do. The first 3 though at the times they came out games like that *had never been done* . Console games in the West were *just* breaking out of the "video games are for kids with kid appropriate themes" concept that was so prevelant. And to see something so twisted and dark...it was jawdropping. They were lightning in a bottle, at the time.

​@@sonicsean34before 4 2 was the black sheep because the fans wants a follow-up sequel to the first game

Eh. We all knew Ascension would suck. So for that reason, it was less disappointing than Downpour. I had high hopes for DP, and it honestly had a lot of great ideas but the monster design and, once again, incredible lack of subtlety let it down again…

Something tells me you're a downpour lover..... Its still the worst ever.

@@terrencepoinsett4169 are you talking about me?

@@terrencepoinsett4169 are you talking about me??

​@@terrencepoinsett4169To each their own. But Downpour has way more positive elements.

How about the whole concept that they were gonna beef up the combat cause your character was a badass soldier!! Oh wait no he’s just psychotic and shouldn’t be good at fighting… whoops!!!

Homecoming is the first Silent Hill where I as the player, learn the pattern of the monster's attack set. so for me, yes it's kind of clunky. But I also really enjoyed it much, the battle against the bladed spiders and Scarlet Fitch are absolutely addictive for me

Eh, As someone who's played HC, you can run away from like 75% of encounters

The ammo limit was also a fumb idea

Flashback to spirit of final fantasy from resonant arc

I totally agree. Silent Hill means a lot of different things for a lot of different people, yet all of the games have certain themes that set the franchise apart from others. For example, there's the huge focus on family. SH1, Shattered Memories, and Downpour all involve parents. SH3, Homecoming, and a game I won't spoil involve orphaned kids. SH2 and the Silent Hills PT involved a husband and wife, and Origins involves both a father and son and a mother and daughter. Only the Room lacks any direct family connection. Another aspect is the Curse of Toluca Lake, which we know had been active for generations on the southern shore (Homecoming) shore but only really became active in the town of Silent Hill because of Alyssa's trauma. I think we can confirm that one of the huge problems with the newest game was that it had zero connection to Toluca Lake, which left it feeling like the name was unearned. I think there are ways to connect games set elsewhere with Toluca Lake (they did it with the Amityville franchise), but that connection needs to be there for people to accept the games as being Silent Hill. I know The Room got a lot of flak because it surrounded events only mentioned in a newspaper article, but at least they tried to directly connect it to the curse. I didn't hate the new game, but they really did miss the mark. Had it not been marketed as a SH game, it probably would've gotten much better reviews. But they obviously didn't know what makes a game SH and instead just tried to borrow elements from the franchise. Having a video that really gets into what makes Silent Hill stand out from other franchises could be the very thing needed to help Bloober get the franchise back on track.

I wouldn't hold my breath. After the Short Message & the whole Silent Hill phenomenon BS that treats Silent Hill more like a mental illness and discards the infamous of the same name, me and many other lost hope for this franchise. I think the only game that might turn out somewhat decent is Silent Hill F since there's actual horror professionals involved.

Ragnarrox dropped a new video and I didn't see it? What the? I'll be right back. Going to go watch one of the GOATs.

every day could be a birth day, only if you'd _believe_ ...

@@necrosadotor I like how you think.

haha thanks@@Mantosasto

Finally, someone who understands what Silent Hill is about.

3 ended the cult storyline though. Heather kills their leader and their god. Team Silent didn't want to keep that plot going, as evident in 4. Homecoming brought the cult back, but Homecoming is like Amazon's LOTR. Sure, they legally can call it LOTR, but it's not canon.

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 True, I just want more than just a copy paste of trauma and punishmemnt Silent Hill,it's more to the town than that.

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 Well, Harry already killed their leader and their god in SH1 and they still came back.

I'd say the "trauma and punishment" that plagues a lot of Silent Hill media and "psychological horror" indie games in general is a misunderstanding and simplification of Silent Hill 2. Not only Westerners try to do it, but it seems very tied to a Western world view that they try to turn all horror to be about "bad people being punished". They want horror movies to tell them who the good people are and who the bad people are, and to have bad people be punished and suffer in hell, or something like that. A very religious-seeming wish. SH2 was about personal demons, sure, but it wasn't about "bad people being punished", it was much more about the ambiguity and what we do to ourselves, just as the original "Hellraiser" by Clive Barker was about the ambiguity of "Hell" and how the demons are not there as the evil guys or even to punish the "bad people". Westerners in general often seem incapable of accepting this ambiguity so the Hellraiser sequels more and more became this cliche of Christianity of bad people are bad so they suffer for it. Even the Silent Hill games that didn't focus on the cult (SH2) were not "about trauma" or "about bad people being punished". That it is so common and overused is just a sign how some people are unable to think outside of their cultural frame of reference. It's about punishment sure, but it's much more about a person wanting to be punished, like Dostoyevsky's "Crime and Punishment". The Silent Hill games tend to be subversive to the Christian ideas, but Westerners love to turn it into conformism with the Christian tradition. An exploration of the psyche and the ambiguous question of who does the punishing and what do the people deserve to be punished for gets simplified into simplistic "this is a bad guy obviously, because he does bad things so he needs to be punished" or "this person had a trauma, traumas like that are bad, so don't inflict traumas on people" types of morality stories. It's difficult to get get good subversive and layered horror out of such simplistic understandings of human existence and psychology.

Is not like it's super Bad, but it has a lot of Bad things ... The worst is the monster design, the only One that feels like a SH monster is the final Boss, the rest are just generic and uninspired

I feel exactly the same. Negative reviews and everything I'd seen about the game kept me from playing it for 10 years. I finally played it in 2022 not expecting much but I was pleasantly surprised how much I was liking it. It definitely could be better but the team that made this game were on to something. Sadly Homecoming killed too much of my faith in the series to give this one the benefit of the doubt.

Lo Mismo por aqui. Downpour era el unico juego de Silent Hill que nunca jugue y me guiaba por las Criticas diciendo que era el peor Silent Hill de la franquicia. Hace poco me anime a jugarlo y la verdad es que lo Ame, para mi es el Mejor Silent Hill hecho por desarrolladoras Occidentales. Los interiores dan una vibra a Silent Hill 2 enorme, los enemigos son genericos pero calzan perfecto con la trama de la Historia. No se como pudo tener opiniones tan negativas este juego.

Konami didn't even like giving Kojima the time to finish MGS5. There's no way some c list studio was going to get the time for what they wanted.

100% this, there's nothing (exclusively) eastern about silent hills horror other than the fact the game was made by Japanese people of course

​@@The_Sharktocrab What about the monster design? I think a good chunk of it is Japanese inspired.

@@Justmonika6969 what makes you say that?

You say that and yet all the western silent hill games are shit.

​@@The_Sharktocrab"nothing Japanese about it other than the fact that Japanese people made it." 😂

Yes

I would

Me

I think it's a matter of definition. I think the general sentiment you're getting at is that Homecoming is worse than Downpour? On that, I agree with you. In my mind, though, disappointing does not equate to "worst".

"Click the bell button and select all"

Hallelujah!

Like 8 people so far. Lol

It's not an explanation but a slap in the face for the sake of milking the franchise. If only they'd make a good game to go along with that. lol

I have thought about that... maybe I could do a Silent Hill Mythology episode on it.

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Yes that would be awesome i would love to see max break that crazy series down!

@@frazierfraz4040 he already has

I say this because some franchises and creators, for example, Call of Duty Zombies went through the same thing. Started out cheaper and full of small details and leaving things to the imagination but now we're at COD's Silent Hill ascension.

By the way, might I add how cute it is that Berserk acknowledged Elden Ring's DLC announcement and firmly put the release date of its next chapter probably before their release date; two peas in a pod, abduction by Ottomans.