The Most Expensive Cartridge On The Market?

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The Most Expensive Cartridge On The Market?

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2 жыл бұрын

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@stu748r 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks David, as usual a good video but may I say that the vast majority of people that shoot, in the UK are struggling not to try to hit clays with the marginal gains that more expensive cartridges actually achieve, but are really struggling with the large increases in the cost of cartridges over the recent months , to actually justify carrying on shooting. How about a cost verses gains video ?

@jamesdriver8148 2 жыл бұрын

The B&P cartridges look great but I like the litespeed. They are smooth to shoot with soft recoil, clean, not much confetti from the fibre wad and a good price.

@dtaylor9673 5 ай бұрын

The Gordon Recoil system which I believed is owned, and used by B&P makes a notable difference if you need a hard hitting cartridge with modest or low recoil. Gamebore used to have a 'licence' to use the system within the UK, but that agreement stopped some time just prior to B&P launching their new UK line of cartridges? No doubt all B&P are first class cartridges.

@jensgaus781 2 жыл бұрын

In Norway we are only allowed to use steel on clays. The Fiocchi F2 steel are good, but (very) hard recoiling and don't reach the quality of different cartridges made by B & P. Neither regarding pattern nor the comfort while shooting.

@Nemesis007 2 жыл бұрын

Fiocchi Litespeed I’ve shoot more than 3000 Fiocchi Litespeed 12G, in the last two years. They are a great cartridge for everyday use. Reliable, great value for money & bust clays time after time. The last time I purchased a 1000 they went up from £185 to £200 and now over £235/1000? From my local ground - Just Cartridges seem to be OUT of STOCK!

@stephenbattaglia5193 2 жыл бұрын

LiteSpeed Plastic £219, Fibre £224

@garytaylor7611 2 жыл бұрын

No cartridges under £210 / 1000 that I can find.

@Graham19951 2 жыл бұрын

At my local club we had a load of Lightspeed in. Most shooters did not like them at first, so the club sold them off at cost. Now we have none left everyone wants them. I bought a couple of slabs cheap and put them away, one day I will use them up.

@Nemesis007 2 жыл бұрын

@@garytaylor7611 I have asked David, to share with the TGS group, where we can purchase Litespeed at less than £200/1000? Watch this space!

@rosserpace3602 2 жыл бұрын

Shot B&P bird hunting several years ago and really liked them.

@solarimperium1217 Жыл бұрын

HI David, we use B&P here in Australia and they are 100% so sweet to shoot and break clays - avg price here would be $140 Aus $ for 250 (slab)

@stevengary7501 Жыл бұрын

Where do you purchase them from? I shot a slab of Nationals and really loved them

@jimcarter4497 2 жыл бұрын

B&P f2 Mach over here in the USA are great as they have less felt recoil than cartridges of the same payload and speed. And they kill well as they have 5% antimony

@richardminer1863 2 жыл бұрын

Fiochi in the USA are around $600.00 US per thousand at best, usually more. I bought B&P in 28 gauge a bit over a year ago, great shell, but since they have almost doubled in price from $15 per box to $28. Glad I stocked up when I did. Miss the days of $5.00 a box for premium shotshells. Once in a while you still see the cheap cartridges going for $ 8.99 per box but not often. Lots of price gouging going on between manufacturers, distributors and retailers. More so in anything not 12 gauge.

@gnarshread 2 жыл бұрын

Same here! I've stopped buying nice ammo and just bulk buy online whatever I can get for cheap. And your totally right about price gouging! It's insane what my local hardware store charges for budget 12ga.

@perrypappous7617 2 жыл бұрын

David, B&P shells are highly regarded here in California, but they have disappeared from the market. They were always expensive. The 24 gram shells @1160 recoil less than a 20 gauge. The standard 12 gauge cartridge @1260 fps are stone cold killers at clays. No one Iknow reloads these shells. Perry Pappous

@graemerice351 2 жыл бұрын

That was a fairly useless vid. No mention of choking in the gun and a fantastic view of your back and the right hand edge of the cage. Could hardly see the breaks on the first target let alone the second !! Come on David up your game, your videos are normally much better than this 👍🙂

@kengregory4930 2 жыл бұрын

As a novice and needing to get a lot of practice in, save some cash at the same time, Litespeed are an option so far I can only find as 26g do they do a 21g

@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын

B&p are excellent, very low recoil and great patterns, if the top cartridges are worth the extra money really depends what level shooter you are

@stephenmac3105 2 жыл бұрын

I've shot B&P game cartridges, brilliant shell, love them. They also had the recoil reduction system in the cartridge just like some of Gamebore's

@jensgaus781 2 жыл бұрын

Gamebore actually is using B & P's Gordon system for recoil reduction.

@stephenmac3105 2 жыл бұрын

@@jensgaus781 That's the one, I couldn't think of the name of it

@josephbucci3749 2 жыл бұрын

I shoot whatever I can find right now. Winchester super targets at Walmart for $8.49 a box or about $350/1000 is a cheap as it’s been for a while. I’d love to find shells at $240/1000. Haven’t seen that here in the USA in a few years.

@alleycat8483 2 жыл бұрын

Here in Australia, ie Brisbane the days of sub 100$ for a 250 slab have just about gone, Winchester super target is now 106$ a slab, Falcon is around 100$ but very hard to find..

@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын

Agree, but i'd rather pay 110 to 120 for something that patterns well, super targets are pretty average at best, clever usually can be had for 115 or so

@tonymorgan3526 2 жыл бұрын

I always used liyavale express for clays and victory cartridges for game, great cartridges at a reasonable price, and never any problems, but once you find a good brand you normally stick with them 👍

@FourT6and22 6 ай бұрын

Shot a flat of B&P F2 Mach the other day. 12ga., 1oz., 7.5 shot, 1250fps. Nothing too different from any other shell I've tried.

@simonbeal2148 2 жыл бұрын

oxford shooting company fiocchi litespeed 26g plastic wad £217 per 1000 so not under £200 per thousand

@Nemesis007 2 жыл бұрын

David, would you like to explain yourself on price/promotion of Fiocchi Litespeed under £200/1000?

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 2 жыл бұрын

Just load my own with anything that's available , when push comes to shove theres really not a lot init anymore just a hell of a lot of marketing 💥

@anthonydeveno9028 2 жыл бұрын

I normally when I can get them shoot the fiochi sporting dynamics cartridges number 8 shot one once and I love them

@sofalugger 2 жыл бұрын

A Top AAA+ shooter said to me some years ago "They all break em...some better than others!"

@johnrussell7158 2 жыл бұрын

Hope they have upped their quality as had absolute mares with blues and blacks, plenty not going bang and some getting stuck under ejectors of a brand new gun (20 mins old to me Reg fitasc) Hull for me are amazing so if they want a slice of big boys cake, hopefully they have massively improved their quality 👍🏻

@eurovicperformance1379 Жыл бұрын

State side “yank”, I shoot both Fiocchi shooting dynamics and B&P F2 Mach . Both 8 shot, both 1250 fps. Hands down the Fiocchi is a much softer recoil than the B&P. I shoot a full flat (250) every outing.

@davidrenton9935 2 жыл бұрын

Most modern shells will kill all targets. But sometimes worth paying a bit extra to have more confidence in your shells.

@borisfargo1290 2 жыл бұрын

Aren’t all fibre wads “eco”?

@paulreid7129 2 жыл бұрын

Paying £55 /250 carton here in Northern Ireland for GB Trap which are fine for clays 24g. Haven't come across BnP as yet

@kenstevens7064 2 жыл бұрын

Hi David I have used the B&P feloicy I found them to be very smooth teduiced recoil thanks to the gordon system that these have, they also seem to keep a tight patten. But a lot of money special day trip

@dankruger2890 Жыл бұрын

I buy multiply different shells for different weather conditions and disciplines. In high humidity with wind the pattern breaks up on very few occasions. Shooting handicap at the 27 and doubles takes better shells. I really do have a shell fetish

@aeron-mw7ofs 2 жыл бұрын

Fiocchi are my go to cartridge 👍

@richardtimms8733 2 жыл бұрын

Only tried Fiocchi Pigeon 32 fibre and Golden Pheasant fibre, Pigeon 32 I thought wasn’t bad, Golden Pheasant kicked like a mule with a hornet stinging it’s arse.

@deancann8537 Жыл бұрын

I’m shooting the compac and sporting ones really kill nicely and very soft shooting. Not the fastest but hold a nice pattern

@iantunnicliffe4509 2 жыл бұрын

Game bore dark storm fibre the best in 8 shot no targets to far 👍

@Graham19951 2 жыл бұрын

Eley Titanium will probably give them a run for their money. But I have heard Titanium might not be made in the future.

@welsworthy 2 жыл бұрын

Fiocchi f blacks have a very hard primer, stopped using them when I had 10+ miss fires out of 250.

@danielwatkins8208 3 ай бұрын

Do you shoot a browning ?

@aydingultekin2846 2 жыл бұрын

I do a bit of trap. I always shoot the cheapest shells

@peterlavelle567 Жыл бұрын

Not sure shooting relatively close rabbit targets offers a fair comparison on a shell like the Sporting HV. Would be keen to see how they perform on 55 yard crossers or a big battue, that’s where shells like that make a difference.

@lynchfaraaz3895 Ай бұрын

I love the long range b&p

@lukewestbrook7991 2 жыл бұрын

If your looking for a absolutely fantastic cartridge look no further than the bornaghi stars 👍what a cartridge, bornaghi do a great range of cartridges from the bornaghi sport cartridges up to the bornaghi stars there's a cartridge to suit all budgets in there range 💥david you should do a video on bornaghis cartridge range 👍

@markleedham8137 2 жыл бұрын

Could you put prices as a comparison along with your opinion and rank as you think ?

@michal.abramowicz 2 жыл бұрын

tt two blue box or fblack series or what you can ger cheapest at local store😊

@richardcranston1833 2 жыл бұрын

I've tested or rather tried many if not most ranges, manufacturers. I usually go with Gamebore or Fiochi but the costs are spiralling making shooting sports out of reach for more and more. Per 1000 most gave gone up £25-40 esp lightspeed etc

@DARRELLGRIFFITHS 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t understand the slightly negative comments, not many clay vids show good breaks and shooter in the same shot as its very difficult to do and the whole point of the vid was comparing cartridges which on video you can only do through verbal comments and to be fair you didn’t stop talking. The only thing that could have made it better would have been confirming velocities over a Chronograph. We shoot a lot of .410 challenges in our club and learnt a hell of a lot by shooting .410 over a Chronograph and comparing patterns, lead and breaks. Fiochi 3” were fast over the Chronograph and had good breaks but we had to stop using them because of the plastic wad, very similar performance and breaks were had with Hull high Pheasant 3” 7, fibre wad but and awesome cartridge in .410

@philbalf3363 2 жыл бұрын

Interested to know where you are getting litespeed under £200 - 1000 £234 at my dealer in Bodmin Cornwall

@buckshotaaa 2 жыл бұрын

True, i'll have 5 thousand at under £200/1000 thanks very much.

@raymondhawkins881 2 жыл бұрын

No chance of getting them for under £200 a 1000...

@Nemesis007 2 жыл бұрын

Kindly, enlighten us, David where your viewers can buy at less than £200/1000?

@thebigguy5538 2 жыл бұрын

Cartridges are extremely expensive and difficult to find in the US. I recently found a case of Winchester AA and was happy to pay $150 for a flat of 250 cartridges which won’t last a week.

@michal.abramowicz 2 жыл бұрын

It is like 2x more then normal price???? Man. 250x rounds cost like 75$ in Poland ;) (rio, fiotchi, this economic-good ones)

@pirgmujtabajan9308 Жыл бұрын

so many variants of cartridges

@Incountry 2 жыл бұрын

What is your personal gun (s) you shoot regular..??

@irfanjahangir8055 2 жыл бұрын

B&p legends and flash 👌👌👌

@ronyoung5586 Жыл бұрын

they r both awesom

@boffs17 2 жыл бұрын

Under £200 a thousand! When was this filmed.....2003?

@TSCTheshootingchannel 2 жыл бұрын

No they are still under £200 per 1000.

@boffs17 2 жыл бұрын

£227 from my nearest gun shop that sells them, and that's when they have them in stock 😭

@thebudgetshooteruk 2 жыл бұрын

Haven’t seen Litespeed under £220/1000 at the very best, and even that’s rare.

@kevinvajda 2 жыл бұрын

Hi David is that for 24g fibre ?

@aaronwaltho223 2 жыл бұрын

Cheapest plastic Litespeed’s near me are £217 per 1000. Trouble is that needs a 2 hour + round trip. Love this pastime of ours but it’s not getting any cheaper.

@pauljinks8480 2 жыл бұрын

Where are Litespeed less than £200 / 1000? Maybe 2 or 3 years ago.

@ghillie35 2 жыл бұрын

It ok doing these cartridges but what about other manufacturers and game and clay cartridges

@JorgeSantos-nl8he 2 жыл бұрын

How about the Gordon system??!!

@adelacour Жыл бұрын

Lite speeds every day, great cartridge 26grm fast and gret patter.

@tommygray2870 2 жыл бұрын

I am in the USA and shoot fiocchi shooting dynamics

@blair6052 2 жыл бұрын

Never seen or shot the b&p csrtridges but has always wanted to try them but up in Scotland I don’t know who stocks them.

@dhruvshah7545 2 жыл бұрын

Please review B&p comp one

@dave_724 2 жыл бұрын

But no Lyalvale express to show which is who distribute them don’t they fiocchi are becoming incredibly popular the rossa where vey popular when they where first sold at my local ground

@cblack1green 2 жыл бұрын

You hit everything with any cartridge, it must come down to which is the prettiest one. 🤣

@davidcoldicott8424 2 жыл бұрын

Chris B who were you watching??

@cblack1green 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidcoldicott8424 Did he miss many then, I thought he hit all of them, then again maybe this is why I miss so many

@andycarless9069 2 жыл бұрын

Never Heard Of Them Will Give them A go. I normally Shoot White Gold Megga Price Now !!

@michal.abramowicz 2 жыл бұрын

gold fiotchi whatever vs cheap tt.two ;) 32 PLN vs 49 ;)

@jamesdean5418 2 жыл бұрын

lite speeds are tragic!!!!!!!!!! .... handy if you know someone's getting married, forget the confetti 🤣.... but seriously ive had few of these from different boxes fail to go off

@staceybrookes807 2 жыл бұрын

Same with their ttone and f3 sporting. Even had a few with no primer! Will be going back to gamebore

@user-gk8jm2op3o Жыл бұрын

Dear Sir, are you aware if NSI goin the RIO GROUP or the oposite?Do you have a link for this info?thanks a lot!!!!

@richardsoto9493 2 жыл бұрын

What is your name ?

@martinhambleton5076 Жыл бұрын

Fiocchi has just bought out B&P and Lyvale Express I have been told? Can anyone confirm that?

@stevej7344 2 жыл бұрын

Use to use nothing but fiocchi and won lots with them but there quality control has gone down to many miss fires and miss shaped shells not fitting in the gun moved over to another shell now but yes fiocchi are one of the cheaper priced shells but not always the best oh and if you contacted fiocchi about there problems with the shells your pissing in the wind there not interested

@user-pc8tb7hg1lHandlesRDumb 2 жыл бұрын

This video seems super popular but maybe im just not as early as usual.

@NotSamoan 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing review.

@Jolly56Roger 2 жыл бұрын

Sellior & Bellot super trap 28g 7's for me, they are not the one's ye grandpappy shot these are a clay pigeons worst enemy devastating kills at long range to, and under £250 a thou. I think they are better than a lot of top brands .👍🏻😵😵

@gasgasjt250 2 жыл бұрын

Where can you get them for under 200/1000 I can’t get them any cheaper than 230

@gasgasjt250 2 жыл бұрын

They’re the only cartridge I use as well so I’d like to get them cheaper 😂

@Nemesis007 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I would also like to know where we can purchase Fiocchi Litespeed under £200/1000? - fibre if possible

@NarcisAdrianD 2 жыл бұрын

B&P cartriges are very good and reliable

@amolgaur96 2 жыл бұрын

Sir, it was a very informative video. Really enjoyed watching it. Can you kindly tell which shotgun has been used in this video. Thank you.

@FeckArseIndustries 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like a Browning B525 sporter with high grade wood. Or Miroku....? Best guess from me.

@bavariasuhl 2 жыл бұрын

determining how a cartridge performs based on "tumpiness" and whether you hit the damn target is the moist stupid thing i hav eheard yet.

@matthewdeepblue Жыл бұрын

Apex is expensive by my reckoning; $60 handloaded

@theessexhunter1305 2 жыл бұрын

You have to hit them all Dave to say they kill well !!

@jamesholton2102 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely ! Judging shells on the way the feel. Worth giving them to a descent shot, AAA or someone that has won something significant. Otherwise May as well ask a guy down the pub what they think. I know one thing at £350 plus a thousand they can keep them