THE MOST EXPENSIVE CZ RIMFIRE AVAILABLE TODAY, WITH A TWIST; CZ 457 QUICK REVIEW AND ACCURACY TEST

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Pursuit of Accuracy

Pursuit of Accuracy

Күн бұрын

Today we take a look at the most expensive offering from CZ, the 457 VPT MTR. Mine is sporting a 20" MTR barrel in place of the 16.5" MTR barrel that comes factory on this model.
We take a look at the Manners stock that make this package is what it is and discuss overall value of the rifle in comparison to the other 457 models.
We also discuss what the identifiers like "MTR" and "VPT" actually mean and the real world differences between these different models.
Closing it out with a 50 yard accuracy test with Lapua Center X, our typical control ammo, and a close look at the groups and it's overall accuracy potential.

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@invictus-23peacekeeper72
@invictus-23peacekeeper72 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 16" MTR on mine, from the factory. all my groups at 50 yards are within 1/2 inch. the targets are 25 1/4 inch circles and I hit 15 to 23 of the circles with Eley. my dad used to say that "a good rooster can sing in any chicken coup." the length of the barrel is irrelevant if you know your windage and elevation. use the flags correctly and you'll get there
@terrykleypas50
@terrykleypas50 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh. Another great and informative video. Keep us posted on your final setup.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry! Will do
@TheRonald6524
@TheRonald6524 2 жыл бұрын
Stumbled across this channel. Love it!!! Very well done 👍!! Keep the videos coming
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@TheGarnerjustin73
@TheGarnerjustin73 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yea Brother. Aluminum bedded stock as well.
@joe-dp3ng
@joe-dp3ng Жыл бұрын
I don't really like to give out a whole lot of praise to people shooting 22s because over a lifetime of shooting it just varies so much but you're very good I love your attitude your calm demeanor and you're one of the only guys that doesn't blame something else when you know one whole one shot goes out of the hole you say I might have pulled it it's a flyer which is usually the truth and it's refreshing to see that and hear that
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. Im not the best by a long shot but I love precision rimfires and love sharing that with you guys. Thanks for watching
@Natezoinks
@Natezoinks 3 жыл бұрын
Love my CZ 457 vptmtr, the 16” barrel works well for me with the suppressor as it keeps the overall length in check. Also seems to get decent velocity out of standard velocity ammo. Targets out to 280 are no issue, trying further targets soon. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent brother. Its just a personal preference for me really.
@thefrogking481
@thefrogking481 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the same rifle, I absolutely love it. It makes the Ruger Precision I owned feel like a Red Ryder. I run a Gemtech on mine, yes the zero shifts.
@jdmbraceyourself695
@jdmbraceyourself695 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and I love the stock 👍👍
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it
@rickpowell7550
@rickpowell7550 9 ай бұрын
Love your videos keep them comeing.
@charlesfitzgerald6095
@charlesfitzgerald6095 3 жыл бұрын
CZ 457 Varmint MTR moved it from the beautiful wood stock to an Oryx chassis & love it. Might have a wood working friend take the wood stock & see about cutting the cheek piece out then use a couple of steel rods to make an adjustable cheek riser.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
That would be pretty cool. I thought about the same but then stumbled on to the victor titan cheek rest
@livinginswva1965
@livinginswva1965 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Varmint MTR, and love it. My brother has the American, and it's also quite accurate.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have the varmint mtr as well, great rifle
@richfreeman739
@richfreeman739 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Jeff-mv4yy
@Jeff-mv4yy 2 жыл бұрын
It's my second watch of this video. It is interesting to rewatch the evolution of your rifle after seeing all of your vids. I too don't like the 16" barrel appearance.
@anthonykhalil70
@anthonykhalil70 3 жыл бұрын
I love that stock. My Mtr had the 16.5 barrel. Shot great. But balance to me was a issue. I have a lothar 18 on it now balance is much better. But I come from a using a weihrauch 660mm barrel. So its a adjustment when switching rifles.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, yeah agree completely...the longer barrel helps a lot with balance
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks. 👍
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. You got a great channel
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy thx man.
@biagiocozza8875
@biagiocozza8875 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Josh. Wish I had a range like yours in the backyard. Interesting, that it does well with the Center X ammo, my MTR loves the Sk rifle match ammo a little more. I shot a .34” at 50y and about .80 at 100y
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It shot the center x decent but waa prone to flyers
@lewisrice3741
@lewisrice3741 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that cz helps you out on all the new equipment you have or you have a nice cash flow or you are like me just cant pass up the latest and greatest I have seven cz rifles now I have to get this one thanks Josh. But rest assured I love me some cz.
@michaelwatson3730
@michaelwatson3730 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Josh! I’m just catching up with all them. What do you recommend to lengthen the buttstock?
@thefrogking481
@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын
Have the exact rifle. Ive not found it to be particularly finicky with quality ammo. Ive managed MOA 5 strings with Remmington bucket stuff. With match ELY or SK sub MOA isnt a stretch. I dont however have the best glass ( most expensive). I use a Vortex HD 4×12. Great rifles for guys chasing groups.
@capomand45
@capomand45 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I shoot exactly the same rifle/scope/rings/mount and riser. I do have the 16" barrel and it will shoot .349 all day with Lapua OSP, strange I know but the OSP seems to shoot better than Center X or RWS R50. RWS Special Match consistently groups will under half MOA. The real test is 25 shots, one shot each on a half-inch paster at 50 yards
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a whole bunch of pasters my friend. Yeah you never know what the rifle will like with these rimfires
@joe-dp3ng
@joe-dp3ng Жыл бұрын
Thank God there's somebody out there that's going to say 25 round groups I mean I I like to say 50 and then throw out a couple flyers and that's what that ammo's going to shoot in your gun clean the barrel if you change ammo and do it again so thank God somebody thinks 25 ground groups matter
@rapidrrobert4333
@rapidrrobert4333 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 24" CZ 457 in their factory chassis. It will shoot sub moa easily with good ammo.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Yeah just not a huge fan of a 24" barrel
@theunforgivenpuritan4102
@theunforgivenpuritan4102 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot the 457 Jaguar (28.5in barrel). 300 rounds of Eley Match through it...and I LOVE it. Shooting iron sights is humbling..i have shot a few sub 1/2 inch groups at 25 meters (2 MOA)
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Iron sights are tough. I like the stock on those jaguars, thanks for commenting
@charlesmiller2837
@charlesmiller2837 3 жыл бұрын
Jaguars and their 12 groove rifling are some great shooters. I love the 3 jags I have.
@theunforgivenpuritan4102
@theunforgivenpuritan4102 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesmiller2837 on a calm day...what kind of 5 shot groups can you pull at 25 meters with the Jaguar (iron sights)
@mlone7
@mlone7 2 ай бұрын
I just purchased a used 457 pro varmint with the 16.5 barrel. Like you I wasnt a fan of that barrel but liked the threaded barrel. This is not an MTR. A guy at the range told me to throw a Ultradyne Apollo Max on it and it would improve the groups. He runs the range and said he had seen other guys do it and tighten their groups. I just happened to have one laying around loose and put it on. I really dont know what the deal is but it tightened up the groups. I dont shoot exotic ammo like you do and was shooting CCI Standard and Federal Auto Match that day. MOA or less at 100. I will try the 50 next time out. Love your page
@marktwo3160
@marktwo3160 Жыл бұрын
16.5 inch barrel for the win!
@70willard
@70willard 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want one for my mtr. Great video by the way . That’s a very accurate rifle for sure. But you half to factor in the shooter behind the rifle also . I think your a great shot sir .
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Your dead to me now, vudoo guy....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@70willard
@70willard 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy hahahahahahah😂😂😂😂 but … but ……. But I still love my cz
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, your forgiven
@ShooterB1
@ShooterB1 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 16" version. I am on the fence about changing it to a 20". I have a varmint and love it. Both have a spot in my inventory. I do shoot the MTR more. I may pick a 20" and but the 16" on my varmint. I dont know. Great video. Thank you.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment. Great thing about the 457 is you can mix and match and see what you like. Never know til you try. Happy plinking!
@invictus-23peacekeeper72
@invictus-23peacekeeper72 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 20" is overrated. I'll change mine to 20" when it's time to replace the barrel, after 2,000 rounds
@msi1985
@msi1985 2 жыл бұрын
I decided to get the CZ 457 ProVarmint!!!! I am SOOOO excited! Ohh and I will buy your 16.5 inch MTR barrel if you still have it ;P
@charliesiempelkamp511
@charliesiempelkamp511 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle! Good shooting. I saw one a couple months ago, went back to really check it out, and the shop tried to push off the VPT Camo as an MTR. I wasn't buying it. Nice gun, but I wanted the Match chamber. I'm with you on the 16" barrel. I like an 18-20" for handling and velocity. I managed to come across a CZ 457 Long Range Precision .22LR 20" Rifle. CZ-02380 It has the same Match chamber as the MTR. It's almost identical to the model sold in the UK less the big rubberized ball on the bolt handle and a muzzle brake. I really like the stock it comes in. It's not a Manners stock, but I believe it provides better options for the shooter; at least for me. And I'll probably get a 28 hole blued brake from Kidd to put on it. Happy shooting!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Charlie. I havent had a chance to check out the long range precision yet.......cz-usa are you reading these comments?? 🤣🤣
@sportbikeguy9875
@sportbikeguy9875 2 жыл бұрын
You won't get any more velocity from a 22lr from a barrel longer than 16", the data is out there :) I love my MTR 16"!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@sportbikeguy9875 ive seen slight velocity increases over 16" but it depends on the ammo. Also the 16" barrels are louder than are 18 or 20 barrels
@sportbikeguy9875
@sportbikeguy9875 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy yes quiet is nice, I live in Canada and suppressors are illegal. And yeah the ballistics by the inch website shows some strange data where the same round will shoot slower out of a 17 inch barrel than a 16" but then also shoot faster from an 18" than a 17". I can attribute this to a final shockwave bouncing back from the chamber to the projectile around the 18" mark. But I'm not a scientist or a gunsmith haha. Either way, great videos dude. I just ordered my mtr recently after watching one of your video's, among others!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@sportbikeguy9875 yeah it can be strange. Thanks for the support!
@larrylinneman5915
@larrylinneman5915 Жыл бұрын
Really love my cv 457 vpt-mtr 16" mtr barrel works good for me mine likes norma 22 match, sk black box and lapua cx. I'm still looking for a lija barrel (going to move the mtr barrel to my pro varmint cz) and have been on the waiting list for a scar trigger for a year now
@larrylinneman5915
@larrylinneman5915 Жыл бұрын
To add the weighted arca rail is sweet best add I did so far
@toddwagoner51
@toddwagoner51 2 жыл бұрын
I watch ya quite a bit. I got varmint. Out of the box. Not the mtr. After around 350 rds 22lr) at 50. Mine shoots 1/4 to 3/8 all the time. 3/4 to 1 inch at 100. Mine is just the standard varmint. Norma tac. 1100fps. And gemtech 1020 fps. Mine didn't shoot with any consistency until that 300 to 400 rds. They really are an accurate tac driver. The trigger to me on these czs are what a guy has to know. Once you learn that the hit where you aim. Amazing accurracy for 5 bills. I've got an airmax 4 12 40 ao on top of mine. HAWKE. Seems to be a good combo. Like your videos. Maybe your wife will let you get that voodoo some day.😅😅😁😁. Great educational videos. Great work.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Todd!
@belt1974123
@belt1974123 Жыл бұрын
Actually, there is a version over this one with a different manners stock. It also has a adjustable cheek riser. It is the varmint precision trainer MTR 16". It retails for 1400.00.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
That model came out a few months after this video released
@JamesS.254
@JamesS.254 2 жыл бұрын
A CZ 457 is the next firearm on my buy list, but I promised my self and my significant others that I would wait until my birthday six month's from now. (They did just let me buy a bolt action 300 Blackout) Promises. 😒 But hey, it gives me time to save up for exactly the one I want. 👍🏻 I'm a fan of aluminum chassis, so I'm thinking about the Varmint Precision Chassis MTR. Or maybe look for a used 457 American for the action and build one from there.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a solid plan. Its worth the wait
@pravataracing
@pravataracing 3 жыл бұрын
Good shooting Josh
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@BlueSkinedCrackBaby
@BlueSkinedCrackBaby 2 жыл бұрын
They just came out with a new version of this rifle with a updated stock (cheek riser and setup for a Arca rail) $1635.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw that. Big price jump, will see if I can get my hands on that
@markthibault8579
@markthibault8579 3 жыл бұрын
Longer barrels just look so much better with that type of stock.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do
@JayCole37
@JayCole37 2 жыл бұрын
Putting me one together now
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@troywhitney4122
@troywhitney4122 2 жыл бұрын
When you changed the barrel on your custom rifle did you set it up to glue into action.read a build that talked a little about it, wanted to here your thought if that’s really necessary to get that 180yard aspirin/card splitting accuracy. Or do you leave it so you can do fast barrel changes
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I dont glue in the barrels in case i switch something up and want to change my headspace. Hasnt been necessary for me so far
@precisionmachineshed
@precisionmachineshed 2 жыл бұрын
Nice info on the rifle. Do you not wear hearing protection? First 3-4 years of my shooting career i used crappy ear muffs and I now have tinnitus. Not counting the thousands of rounds I put down a 22 as a kid. Lost my high range and I'm not even 40 yet.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I wear ear pro when i get away from the subsonic match ammo. Should probably wear it all the time but the 22lr with the match ammo and longer barrels is so quiet
@buckshotaaa
@buckshotaaa Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, loving all your vids man. I used to run CZ's (452/453/455), then i thought i'd try a Bergara B-14R. It shoots ragged holes at 50 yards with SK Standard Plus, but i'll always have a soft spot for CZ. It's like you regularly say "It's personal preference". I read somewhere that .22 RF ammo gets a full burn at around 12"?, i'm guessing barrel length is what the shooter feels comfortable with. ATB from across the pond.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
For match ammo its around 18" for full burn i believe. But yeah all pretty much preference
@thefrogking481
@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын
​@@PursuitofAccuracy Depends on ammo velocity doesn't it?
@mikeg3234
@mikeg3234 2 жыл бұрын
Josh, is your barrel free floated all the way up to the action? My varmint MTR stock is, but when I swap the action into the Manners VPT. There is barrel contact about 1” from the receiver. Thanks for all the fun videos
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. I noticed the same and sanded that down to free float it
@petealman6996
@petealman6996 3 жыл бұрын
Good shooting. How would you compare that stock with the walnut stock? Better ergonomics? The reason I ask is I shoot the walnut mtr left handed and I’ve been looking for more of a ambidextrous option, although I’ve gotten used to it.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I like both but i think the manners is superior. Its inletting is tighter and the aluminum pillar beds are a step up from the plastic on the walnut mtr stock. Ergonomically the manners is better for me but im a righty......may feel different to you
@jimhamilton3544
@jimhamilton3544 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. I agree with your assessment about a any barrel less than 20” will never be on any of my target rifles. I have a CZ and I would never put 16” barrel on even if CZ gave me the top of the line match barrel. Yes it is a personal preference 😉 it just looks weird too me 🤔
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@Jcruce7122
@Jcruce7122 3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy awesome awesome, love this channel, what state are you in ? We are in tn and no cz stuff hardly at all, I have a 457 synthetic its a shooter about to go line up my new burris e1 6.5-20x50, replacing my 4-12 so hoping my groups shrink
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey i appreciate it. I am in NC and the cz stuff is slim pickings for sure, atleast for a decent price
@Jcruce7122
@Jcruce7122 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy I been after a 10rnd mag for months now no luck found some on ebay for 100$ + that's it....
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jcruce7122 yeah not sure whats up with the lack of mags right now. I may call cz and ask them what the deal is.
@grasunmajjurach6026
@grasunmajjurach6026 2 жыл бұрын
VERYGOOD I FROM THAILAND พัทลุง..นิ
@TNtreasurehunter
@TNtreasurehunter 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done chrono on both barrels I would say 16” barrel is just as fast as 20” with match ammo.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I havent. I agree...the 16" is making max velocity ad the 20" would make max velocity and then the last 2" would slow it down
@TNtreasurehunter
@TNtreasurehunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the feedback I have the green one with think 20” barrel was thinking of replacing it with a threaded barrel. Have a suppressor if I ever get a stamp back. Trying to decide what barrel I want to go with.
@charlesmiller2837
@charlesmiller2837 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite model 457 is the Jaguar. I’ve not shot any ammo it doesn’t like yet and I’ve shot some crappy blazer, federal champion, and winchesters. The 12 groove rifling of the jaguar just loves everything. Best match ammo I’ve shot is eley match 1050 speed and Lapua Midas+ 26 speed. Liked the forst one so much I now have 3 Jaguars and none of them are picky about ammo at all.
@charlesmiller2837
@charlesmiller2837 3 жыл бұрын
Every ammo has shot MOA or stupid sub MOA groups so far in the Jaguars I own. Best groupings were with eley match the 1051 fps lot. 5 consecutive groups under .2 . I Honestly think the jaguar is a hidden gem in the 457 lineup.
@charlesmiller2837
@charlesmiller2837 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the pro varmint and MTR and since I got the first jaguar I’ve sold the other to buy more cats. Love those things a lot. You should get one for the channel.
@keithkirkland7585
@keithkirkland7585 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a comparison video between this rifle the vptmtr and a B14R ? For the price of this CZ around 1500 compared to the b14r around 900. Which one shoots the best? Thanks
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I currently dont own a bergara b14r but will keep it in mind
@roperboy87
@roperboy87 3 жыл бұрын
I shot my mtr cz457 with standard plus this weekend and it shot lights out.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Will see how my mtr does with it this week
@roperboy87
@roperboy87 3 жыл бұрын
If KZfaq would allow me I would have uploaded a phone of 5 shot group at 100 yards smaller than a dime
@davep3163
@davep3163 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, just wondering what your cleaning regime / method is? You get great accuracy. Thanks in advance.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I generally only clean when i notice accuracy fall off
@davep3163
@davep3163 3 жыл бұрын
Usually hundreds or thousands of shots? Also do you use copper brush, nylon or felts/patches?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
@@davep3163 typically a 400 or so depending on the barrel. I use a nylon brush and cotton patches. 2 wet patches with boretec, let it sit, nylon brush wet with boretec about a dozen times, then dry patches
@davep3163
@davep3163 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy great that's very helpful. 👍
@Riley_1955
@Riley_1955 2 жыл бұрын
For myself I will never put anything metal down my bores of any weapon.......It's always nylon brushes coupled with cotton patches......First I always use patches with some WD-40 and if that doesn't do it then it's Tetra gun solvent for 15 minutes then dry patch it out. For all my guns that will sit over the Illinois winters I use lots of Corrosion-X on a patch then when winter is over I dry patch each barrel again for the start of my shooting season.
@clorr060482
@clorr060482 Жыл бұрын
Recently started to look into CZ 457's and came across your channel. Love your content! I am currently in the market and would like an upper end CZ. Was looking into this model you are shooting as well as the CZ 457 VPC MTR and the CZ 457 VPT MTR. What are your thoughts on those?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Both are awesome rifles for the $$
@clorr060482
@clorr060482 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the reply! They all seem like they are so hard to come by! I have only had luck finding them on gunbroker and you pay premium price there. Any other suggestions on places to look?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
@@clorr060482 local mom and pop gun stores are the best bet these days
@robertlunsford1350
@robertlunsford1350 2 жыл бұрын
I have the varmint Mtr in the original stock but I am having trouble picking a sight for it. What ring height and sight are using?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
On that rifle i am running low height rings and an athlon helos btr gen 2
@CrHyde
@CrHyde 3 жыл бұрын
I have a cz457 VPT. I am looking to upgrade the barrel on it. Between your mtr barrel with its preferred best ammo and the lilja barrel with it preferred best ammo at around 200yds, which is the better more accurate option? Is the difference between the two significant? The lilja barrel is roughly $200 more than the cz mtr barrel. Thanks for the videos and info thus far!!!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I think the lilja is worth the extra $$ just because you can set the headspace on it. The eley match has been best out of both the mtr barrel and the lilja. Hope this helps
@stolleteddy
@stolleteddy 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy loop
@holdleftedgeandsendit9351
@holdleftedgeandsendit9351 3 жыл бұрын
Josh do you feel you give up anything 300+ with the cz vs say a vudoo or rimx?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Its hard to say honestly. There are so many factors at that distance. Typically a vudoo or rimx do start pulling away at 200+ yards because of the controlled feed but the cz feed is so smooth im not sure how much gain there actually is. I do plan on going vudoo vs cz at around 300 yards soon. Jons vudoo and his new ammo shoots the same SD my cz and its ammo shoots so i think thats the best way to test that.
@coganhagen01
@coganhagen01 Жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to clean the barrel , each time u change ammo for testing 🤔, I would figure on it wouldn't matter. Like in high end air gun they say most don't clean them. Seems like after a couple shots it would be self cleaning and want lead in barrel to fill any minor imperfections 🤔
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
10 or so shots usually cleans out the lube of the oil ammo. I usually clean just to be sure
@wintery193
@wintery193 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. What make of bipod is fitted please.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Its an atlas
@wintery193
@wintery193 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you
@roadglide6465
@roadglide6465 2 жыл бұрын
What sunshade is that for the helos btr gen 2. Tried 3, none of them fit...TIA
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Call athlon they will give you the part number you need.
@outboardfun3353
@outboardfun3353 3 жыл бұрын
where did get the check raiser, Also where did you the ten shot mags.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly i dont remember the website but google search victor titan cheek rest
@jbrown1261
@jbrown1261 2 жыл бұрын
I have the regular VPT that came with the 16.5 barrel. Was shooting sub .300 groups at 50 yards and at 100 yards maybe averaging 1" or so. Switched to the 20" MTR barrel and my 50yard groups opened up a little to just under .400 but the 100 yard is better at 3/4" average with a few ammos. Any ideas about why the 16.5" falls off past 50 yards?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing scientific. Rimifre is finicky and you will see ammo do that quite often. I find ammo that sucks at 50 and beats everything else i have at 200 yards.
@jbrown1261
@jbrown1261 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy Excellent. Thanks for the response and keep the videos coming!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jbrown1261 will do. Appreciate ya
@losoj30
@losoj30 2 жыл бұрын
Sure wish you could actually buy a cz 457 right now.
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 3 жыл бұрын
Good looking gun. Can you post the cheek riser where to purchase and brand.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Its a victor titan cheek rest. Google them and usually there are several online shops selling them for pretty cheap
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the information
@arnoldmoos1791
@arnoldmoos1791 3 жыл бұрын
If i was changing barrels ,i wouldnt use another CZ barrel .I would get a custom made barrel known for 22rf accuracy . I have bore scoped a lot of CZ barrels and there are flaws in all of them
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I have a lilja in my competition 457. The lilja outshoots the mtr barrel but the mtr is no slouch and i sometimes shoot in priduction and have to have a bone stock rifle for that class
@fls360
@fls360 2 жыл бұрын
MTR with wood stock. Nailed out several under an inch groups @ 100.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I also have the wood stock mtr and its been very accurate as well
@fls360
@fls360 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy Most accurate rimfires I have are both BSA made. One is a Century and the other a International MK2. Happy shooting and catch you next time.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@fls360 havent shot a bsa yet. Appreciate the comment
@glenthornley8217
@glenthornley8217 3 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out the cz long range Preseigen
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet but looking forward to it
@bertraminc9412
@bertraminc9412 2 жыл бұрын
Who makes the longer MTR barrel that you are using here please?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the Lilja barrel
@lazybear236
@lazybear236 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but I thought max velocity for 22 came somewhere between a 16" and 18" inch barrel. Doesn't CZ say that 20" and 24" barrels are mostly about balance and aesthetic preference, not necessary for .22 lr accuracy.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Ive found 16-20 is all pretty close but past 18" your not gaining velocity. Honestly velocity is the least of my concerns with a precision 22
@lazybear236
@lazybear236 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy So in what way is a longer barrel better for results when the gun is used with a scope? Or do you just like longer than 16" barrels?
@Threegunmaster
@Threegunmaster Жыл бұрын
Been trying to find a CZ LRP for a year now.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Yeah not many came to the US and now discontinued I believe
@No1JetDoc
@No1JetDoc 2 ай бұрын
It's crazy that it does not come with an adjustable cheek rest.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@600miles
@600miles Жыл бұрын
How accurate are we without a scope? I have a 457 Lux 22LR, haven't fired it yet
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Im an ok irons shooter. Havent done it in a long time either so maybe im better now, but likely far worse lol
@dannyward1733
@dannyward1733 Жыл бұрын
Mdt black monday sale! Cz457 xrs seconds for 344
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Nice
@matthewrezuke8130
@matthewrezuke8130 3 жыл бұрын
Should throw on a barrel tuner
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about it just not something i am convinced on trying yet
@matthewrezuke8130
@matthewrezuke8130 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy I’m getting one for my vudoo, made by ATS. Can still use my hellfire from area 419.
@BriarPatch_22
@BriarPatch_22 Ай бұрын
I have the Synthetic model. When i was researching the models it said online and in the paperwork when i picked it up that it had a match chambered barrel. So far, I've seen nothing to prove it's not a match chamber. If anyone can tell me otherwise....
@rawkemsawkem3328
@rawkemsawkem3328 Жыл бұрын
I tend to like 24 or 26" barrels simply because they are so quiet. To me there is nothing more satisfying than plinking without ear pro and barely hearing a pop... Not that a 16" barrel is loud, but it's just a little more annoying
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
The 16" is abnoxious lol
@ianwoodward1554
@ianwoodward1554 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, I have a CZ 457 AT - One in an container traveling to Australia. I’m told it’s CZ developed for Australia, imported through Winchester. I’ve noticed you’ve never viewed a barrel tuner. Would you consider a tuner worth the expense. I was looking at an EC tuner. But with a varmit barrel at 16 inches, would you consider it worth while. Cheers
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
They are effective at changing the harmonics. Plan on spending time and ammo testing with one and dont try to rush the process
@ianwoodward1554
@ianwoodward1554 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, that has to be fasted response I’ve ever had. Keep the content coming. Cheers
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianwoodward1554 haha im on break here
@tiltedflip4491
@tiltedflip4491 3 жыл бұрын
My first time here. I was hoping you would shoot a tee.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Well i did technically hit it 🤣🤣 Hope you stick around
@tiltedflip4491
@tiltedflip4491 3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy I was satisfied with the hit!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiltedflip4491 im not sure how i thought i could put golf tees in the target hanger and not expect myself to try and shoot them.....🤣🤣 Im easily distracted and somehow my 52 yard backstop seems to be a dragon fly landing pad......... you can guess what the end result is there
@disgruntalscout
@disgruntalscout 3 жыл бұрын
Josh Where are you finding ammo and spare CZ mags at?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I got the mags a few months ago when everyone had them. Same with the ammo, i bought a few cases few months back from good shooting inc
@disgruntalscout
@disgruntalscout 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@justinvandee9428
@justinvandee9428 2 жыл бұрын
Have you shot the LRP version?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I have not
@ronhess7249
@ronhess7249 2 жыл бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble, but the CZ site states the 16.5 inch barrel has a complete powder burn. Also its stiffer which will provide a better set of harmonics.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
So the extra noise when shooting the same ammo out of the 16.5 is what??? The extra stiffness 😂😂
@24397764
@24397764 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask what Cheek riser that is, thanks,?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Victor titan universal
@jck197
@jck197 2 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between this and the Varmint Precision Trainer Camo version?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
The barrel. The camo pattern comes with a standard barrel and the other the mtr chamber barrel
@jck197
@jck197 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy What barrel do you recommend to replace it with for better accuracy?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jck197 lilja
@richardlawton1023
@richardlawton1023 3 жыл бұрын
How about shooting an ARA BENCHREST TARGET. I just shot 2225 on Sunday out of 2500
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
I will give it a try. I usually have a little wind to contend with but i would be curious to see how the rifle and i perform
@yahatinda
@yahatinda 2 жыл бұрын
ARGGGG MY 452 DES THAT WELL BUT I DONT CLEAN THE BBL
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I dont doubt that. The 452 are awesome shooters.
@bertraminc9412
@bertraminc9412 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have steel or poly 10 round mags?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
They are poly
@joeycovert7230
@joeycovert7230 3 жыл бұрын
My 457 MTR didn't come with the polished trigger. Should I be concerned?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
No not at all. It may just be certain runs etc. There is no difference in the trigger other than that
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 2 жыл бұрын
Funny. Rifle with a twist. What state are you in?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
I am in NC
@dougrybarczyk4449
@dougrybarczyk4449 Жыл бұрын
Is there any downside for the MTR?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
Nope, very solid rifle
@Pew_pewchronicles
@Pew_pewchronicles 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice Rifles I have one myself and I have the Precision varmint trainer I replace the barrel with a match barrel that comes treaded and it’s also Fluted makes the rifle look really cool Tacticool About the test how come everybody test at 50 yards and claim half MOA or better I think it’s misleading because you can duplicate that at 100 yards then again maybe I just got lucky but my rifle can print under one MOA at 100 yards with SK standard plus and SK target i’m too cheap to buy the Gucci ammo
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
With the match ammo i generally shoot if its sub moa at 50 its also sub moa at 100 yards. Most precision 22lr with the right match ammo are capable of half moa at 100 yards.
@garyharvey2116
@garyharvey2116 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it frustrate you that ammunition inconsistency affects your shooting, given a good rifle “platform”, more than anything else?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is a pain
@asianarowana2086
@asianarowana2086 Жыл бұрын
What name of scope??
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
I believe that was an athlon helos or ares
@robertwatson818
@robertwatson818 Жыл бұрын
What diameter are the orange disks?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
1"
@robertwatson818
@robertwatson818 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you!!
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
@@robertwatson818 np at all
@denniskopecky9124
@denniskopecky9124 Жыл бұрын
I love all my cz pistols. Cyclops Joe Rhea likes the Bergara b14r vs CZ 457's. How do you feel about this. Dennis.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
I would take the 457 over the b14r
@jonbibb4208
@jonbibb4208 2 жыл бұрын
So I've watched alot of videos, u seam to have alot of poi shift in most the 22s u shoot. U have a reason for this
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to when im switching ammo or just shot to shot? I really havent noticed any poi shift out of what would be normal for the circumstance.
@jonbibb4208
@jonbibb4208 2 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy no I'm referring to when your shooting the same ammo and u move from one target to the next. Some groups you will be at 7 o clock on the target, then some u will be at at 1 o clock or 3 o clock. To me that poi shifts, At farther distances this would cause huge severe accuracy variations. Just my thoughts
@daltonv5206
@daltonv5206 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonbibb4208 probably wind
@williamklinke9034
@williamklinke9034 2 жыл бұрын
457 american 22 lr.
@johnschniederjan1683
@johnschniederjan1683 3 жыл бұрын
Try cleaning the barrel but don’t clean the chamber area about 1”of the throat and see what you think.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
With my cleaning setup im not sure if i could clean the barrel without cleaning the chamber
@karencollins9363
@karencollins9363 2 жыл бұрын
1450.00 is still less than a full boat KIDD or Volquartzen and from the 3 videos I have watched of yours only one is worth the money.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha we can agree on that for sure.
@dioendang1580
@dioendang1580 2 жыл бұрын
Bos berapa harganya saya ingin memiliki senapan ini maaf saya tidak bisa bahasa inggris
@joe-dp3ng
@joe-dp3ng Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the time that I actually had a range officer come up to me real nasty and said you can't shoot that here no suppressed rifles on the range that's internally suppressed 30 caliber I know a 30 caliber hole when I see one and I was shooting at 50 yards and I had to tell the guy now you don't know what you know you think you know you're looking at it customized Ruger 10/22 and a 50 round group yep it's a 30 caliber hole but just 50 rounds through that hole go somewhere else and bother somebody else not me
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
A range officer that cant tell a rifle is 22lr by the size of the bolt and brass coming out of it probably shouldnt be a range officer
@joe-dp3ng
@joe-dp3ng Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy I agree with you and I told him that but only thing I can say in his defense was it was a real long time ago and there weren't many people putting aftermarket barrels on ruger's and shooting groups that size I mean I've been doing it for a long time I wish I could experience what you do I just again I keep singing your praises because of the way you talk and the way you go about shooting you know you're you're doing it the right way I think you're one of the best on KZfaq
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
@@joe-dp3ng I appreciate it. Still be tempted to fire that rsnge officer lol
@joe-dp3ng
@joe-dp3ng Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy I wanted to ask you I'm sorry if it bothers you but I just wanted a question answered when you said that semi-automatics made damage the tip of the bullet or part of the bullet and that may affect its long range accuracy is it that or is it that bolts are just more consistent and how they chambered around and and hold the round before it's fired
@joe-dp3ng
@joe-dp3ng Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitofAccuracy and one thing I'd like to say too and this is probably going to be the end of me talk bothering you about it but I equate sometimes shooting like playing pool there's some nights where I seems like I couldn't miss a shot and I'd win many games and then maybe two or three nights later it would be just the opposite I would find it hard to make what I thought were easy shots and it always made me wonder why that was but it's just I think your brain is telling you you're doing the right thing but your hand I coordination isn't really right I guess so shooting tight groups constantly is probably just hard to do no matter what
@seanbrown7954
@seanbrown7954 2 жыл бұрын
I bought same gun. 16.5 barrel not mtr. Doesnt matter im going to up grade barrel.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@philipjmaddox
@philipjmaddox Жыл бұрын
Stock....but not stock. Would have preferred truly stock.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy Жыл бұрын
No rifle i own for more than a month is gonna stay stock
@johnhermsen6456
@johnhermsen6456 3 жыл бұрын
New game shooting golftee 😂😂
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a fun 100 yard game
@TheWheels1965
@TheWheels1965 3 жыл бұрын
My CZ 452 with Center X shoots better than that at 50m not yards! cheers
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
Every lot of center x is different. I had an older lot that would shoot .2's in my mtr and this new lot is pretty consistent at .3-.4 Also camera seems to ruin groups lol. Heard a lot of good things about the 452's, sounds like you have a keeper!
@pinslayer4579
@pinslayer4579 3 жыл бұрын
When your favorite pastime becomes a race to see how much cash you can throw at it......my old 452 seems to work just fine for me.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 3 жыл бұрын
We havent even got to the real expensive stuff yet.......but certainly a cz 452 is a very accurate rifle. My rifles are purpose built for prs style shooting
@seanbrown7954
@seanbrown7954 2 жыл бұрын
You never shoot a can on any of your guns. Why?
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
Thet tend to not be as accurate with a can
@seanbrown7954
@seanbrown7954 2 жыл бұрын
Thats interesting. Alot of guys in the ibs dont shoot breaks because they say same thing. I watch all your videos. Great job.
@PursuitofAccuracy
@PursuitofAccuracy 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanbrown7954 thanks a lot sean
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