The Most Important Mechanism OF ALL TIME, and No One Took Credit?

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Welcome to another episode of Scrap Mechanic! Today I am attempting to recreate an essential mechanism used in watches, clocks, and even movie projectors. The Geneva Mechanism, or Geneva Drive, allows continuous motion to be converted into intermittent motion. Despite its crucial role in watchmaking, the original inventor of the mechanism seems to be unknown. It is simply credited to some obscure "Swiss watchmaker". The mechanism has some very precise construction elements that might be challenging to accomplish in Scrap Mechanic, but can it be done?
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@captainstroon1555
@captainstroon1555 2 жыл бұрын
To make Mr. Swiss Watchmaker proud, you could build an entire mechanical clock based on this Geneva mechanism
@onerxowns2202
@onerxowns2202 2 жыл бұрын
You meant, ANY mechanical clock
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын
grandfather clock with 18 extra gears
@Drag0nmaster
@Drag0nmaster 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Rose_Butterfly98
@Rose_Butterfly98 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't really need this though. Geneva mechanism is mostly used for the winding mechanism, to stop it from being over wound or unwinding too much because when the spring is really wound or really unwound, the power it provides is a decreasing curve, in the middle is when the power is relatively linear and constant. All it does is prevent you from winding the last round and unwinding the first round of the watch. I don't remember if we have clocksprings in scrap mechanic but if it's powered by an engine, we wouldn't need the Geneva mechanism.
@RealPanzer999
@RealPanzer999 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rose_Butterfly98 but it can look better than just constantly rotating & it's a fun experiment
@Chris-ok4zo
@Chris-ok4zo 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this can lead to a select fire gun mechanism, you can have single, burst and full auto, using sensors, some logic, etc.
@JustIn-sr1xe
@JustIn-sr1xe 2 жыл бұрын
We're thinking a similar line of thought.
@danielm.595
@danielm.595 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the first automatic guns firing mechanism were inspired by this.
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 2 жыл бұрын
This is far too complex for a gun. Automatics literally just move the trigger out of the way
@Dragonorder18
@Dragonorder18 2 жыл бұрын
that is a clever idea. Though I was thinking more in the range of something like a Rotating turret.
@ilovehumongoushonkers
@ilovehumongoushonkers 2 жыл бұрын
@@THESLlCK have you seen the g11
@captainsnekk
@captainsnekk 2 жыл бұрын
So... maybe alot of these recent creations would work better in main assembly because you can do curves...
@Muis33
@Muis33 2 жыл бұрын
Scrapman should try making this in Besiege. I'm almost certain one of Drae's best Besiege mods videos had a clock with this mechanism in it...
@somedude4227
@somedude4227 2 жыл бұрын
but that wouldn't be challenging enough
@shromp_
@shromp_ 2 жыл бұрын
Main Assembly does allow curves, but they don't work so well when they collide with each other ._.
@cxtacon7543
@cxtacon7543 2 жыл бұрын
No one like main assembly
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 2 жыл бұрын
@@cxtacon7543 that ain’t true lol
@dantan205gaming2
@dantan205gaming2 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an actual movie projector using this mechanism and painted glass blocks
@ProjectNoDarkNight
@ProjectNoDarkNight 2 жыл бұрын
It would be very interesting to see this mechanism used in a creation. Could you try making a clock or film projector? (Film projector doesn’t have to be functional, but if you want it to, just use a green screen and fake it.)
@kadenjenner9012
@kadenjenner9012 2 жыл бұрын
Are you challenging him?
@sendie7645
@sendie7645 2 жыл бұрын
bro literally made a 3D printer hes got this ez
@ZephyrusAsmodeus
@ZephyrusAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
I can't express just how much Scrap Mechanic has awoken my inner engineer, no other game has gotten me so invested in invention and mechanical physics, yours and a couple other KZfaq channels adding to that greatly as well, having a great time with it all
@ttyler7256
@ttyler7256 2 жыл бұрын
You could probably use something like this to recreate the timed firing system they used on planes in world war 1 to shoot in-between spinning propeller blades while still being able to line up shots
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 2 жыл бұрын
Not how it worked at all. Those planes didn’t have actual machine guns. They were fired by the engine, and had a semi-automatic natural cycle with the only thing actually repeatedly triggering the mechanism being the engine itself.
@ttyler7256
@ttyler7256 2 жыл бұрын
@@THESLlCK thanks for the clarification
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 2 жыл бұрын
@@THESLlCK I think they meant that Scrapman could make something that accomplishes the same thing, not necessarily doing it the same way.
@thetuanschannel4113
@thetuanschannel4113 2 жыл бұрын
Scrapman, since the theme nowadays is Mechanically Mechanical Mechanisms, I recommend you try to make many other Mechanical Mechanisms. I'm pretty sure mathematicians and knowledgeable people will like it
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын
giant clock (for maximum lag)
@plushytoons7423
@plushytoons7423 2 жыл бұрын
Smart people will probably not care but he can try
@wannabenormaldude4570
@wannabenormaldude4570 2 жыл бұрын
You are single handedly getting me back into creating things. Your videos are so fun to watch and the mechanisms and history behind are entertaining to learn about. Thanks for being you!
@jacquelyn972
@jacquelyn972 2 жыл бұрын
be cool if he revisted old games he played like satisfactory brick rigs ect
@ZERO-7-7-7
@ZERO-7-7-7 2 жыл бұрын
I second him doing it
@tomatoe308
@tomatoe308 2 жыл бұрын
He won't bc no one watched
@guillermoelnino
@guillermoelnino 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomatoe308 to be fare, his scrap mechanic stuff is what he built his channel on.
@tomatoe308
@tomatoe308 2 жыл бұрын
@@guillermoelnino ye
@gmodshtpost2913
@gmodshtpost2913 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you fully explain how the mechanism that you are going to build works. That makes your video very interesting and educational.
@oscarsvensson6919
@oscarsvensson6919 2 жыл бұрын
I dont often watch a video to its very end but when it comes to your videos i listen to the outro multiple times. Its perfect,i love it
@guts60
@guts60 2 жыл бұрын
You could use this to make a giant ammo loader, a rotating turret so one side shoots while the previous shot reloads, a weird walking mechanism, and several other things I can’t think of
@PedroSantos-ie1oy
@PedroSantos-ie1oy 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this episode! The teaching, the mathy stuff, the scrap mechanic, I love it all
@Nate5
@Nate5 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a car out of this using this as the wheel so it only drives once or twice per rotation
@Lee-One
@Lee-One 2 жыл бұрын
Of*
@haydenbelles
@haydenbelles 2 жыл бұрын
Do a multiplayer Monday where you all build cars in trail makers that can pick up and throw barrels at each other. And maybe you can use the spawning mod to get more barrels.
@roningaming8238
@roningaming8238 2 жыл бұрын
very much please do
@moeck7342
@moeck7342 2 жыл бұрын
good idea
@rox2225
@rox2225 2 жыл бұрын
But the multiplayer monday is in scrap mechanic
@roningaming8238
@roningaming8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@rox2225 you do realize that scrapman does do multiplayer monday in both trailmakers and scrap mechanic
@Lee-One
@Lee-One 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you showed his channel and stuff too so it’s not just scrap mechanic pretty cool
@nordicdrow
@nordicdrow 2 жыл бұрын
Slight possible improvement to the mechanism: Set the suspension stop mecanism in two suspensions instead of one. You see, right now when you lock it in, it pull down to go in, so at higher speed it might still have it down and create the problem. If you have it in another suspension (probably with a bit higher stiffness) it will stop earlier. It would still go down with the piece that is being unlocked, thats why im not sure it will work, but it just might.
@blacktownshadow1325
@blacktownshadow1325 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite video on this channel!
@rarepepe6197
@rarepepe6197 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these recent invention videos
@henrystickmin8812
@henrystickmin8812 2 жыл бұрын
10:36 i think the problem comes from specifically the pipes exactly 3 blocks away from the center i realised it has a pattern when it twitches
@gbyt034
@gbyt034 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lined up with the driving pin
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem was the blocks sticking out from where those pipes were, which were causing the unpowered wheel to spin when it wasn't supposed to.
@henrystickmin8812
@henrystickmin8812 2 жыл бұрын
@@theyeetus1428 I dont understand, how is that supposed to change anything?
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrystickmin8812 The friction from them touching the wheel spins it when it shouldn't be.
@henrystickmin8812
@henrystickmin8812 2 жыл бұрын
@@theyeetus1428 i dont think thats a possibility
@weaselodooms
@weaselodooms 2 жыл бұрын
My highschool had a theater that used reel to reel machines. I got to help the technician fix the shutter on one of our machines and he told me about the geneva drive on it. Cool stuff.
@citruscyanide
@citruscyanide 2 жыл бұрын
So this is absolutely fascinating. Full props!!
@NotNitehawk
@NotNitehawk 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest, didn't think this was gonna work. Should have learned by now, you always make it work.
@McA_1987
@McA_1987 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos. Surprised you didn’t try adding in a second mechanism tying into that one to make a mechanical clock with 2or3 hands
@mki443
@mki443 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! A Cardan Shaft might also be interesting to see (Although it is maybe too simple, and sm physics might not allow it)
@Percussius_
@Percussius_ 2 жыл бұрын
This video perfectly exemplifies your genius. I loved watching, thank you for uploading this one!
@chilledout_5486
@chilledout_5486 2 жыл бұрын
Really loving the "recreate something from the past" theme going lol
@malhardeadshot6118
@malhardeadshot6118 2 жыл бұрын
well now scrapman's channel has become an educational one with a twist, he explains mechanisms in a game while others do it in a simulation, this one is way more fun :). keep giving your important and valuable knowledge for the greater good of humanity and science
@looksgoodonpaper
@looksgoodonpaper 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video yet again!
@robinkesterlives
@robinkesterlives 2 жыл бұрын
I am most certainly finding these recent sciencey videos very pleasing.
@alec1575
@alec1575 2 жыл бұрын
I really like these types of videos, super interesting to watch👍
@ShadowMajick
@ShadowMajick 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Was unaware of the history (or perhaps lack thereof) of this mechanism. I see a lot of suggestion of using this to power a car wheel, but I'm curious of the implication of powering a walker. Much like the Strandbeest, converting rotational movement into a walking motion. Could potentially even be survival viable as this could be powered by a controller. And now I think I have a project!
@Jeron-E
@Jeron-E 2 жыл бұрын
SMGR Build B2 Bomber
@tech-boy334
@tech-boy334 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a functional mechanical clock.... That would look so amazing
@EconomyElk
@EconomyElk 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. i stopped watching for a while but these videos making cool irl machines have brought me back. i got an idea what about a ball bearing system?
@Zedoone
@Zedoone 2 жыл бұрын
Love the vids man 👍
@JackAnderson232
@JackAnderson232 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍👍👍
@RockyBergen
@RockyBergen 2 жыл бұрын
I am an aspiring watchmaker so this is right down my alley. I'd watch you mess around in FreeCAD or something more technical too btw.
@torpidGlory
@torpidGlory 2 жыл бұрын
obsessed with this website now that you so so much
@EraChanZ
@EraChanZ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually pretty impressed by how you got this to work @scrapman! I would like to see you optimize this system and maybe turn it into a walking mechanism of some kind?
@matttrain3960
@matttrain3960 2 жыл бұрын
such a simple concept but so entertaining!
@karremania
@karremania 2 жыл бұрын
The filmversion is specific called 'malta cross', a adeptation of the geneva mechanism, patented by Thomas Armat in 1895.The odd thing is that everyone just refer to 'watchmakers in the 17th/18th century', at the end of the line its most a story of who patented it and became the known person (like the original photograph etc), dispite there were more people before that time coming up with the idea. If you search on those, with oppositite lock mechanism, you can find a version without the circular center bit to lock it, but a opposite pin that slides in the moment the rotator pin comes out, locking it in place for the duration. Scrap Mechanic wise, that should work.
@WolfiWeinbrecht
@WolfiWeinbrecht 2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning of this video it looked to me that scrapman started using a specific tile, an island on wich he builds his contraption and I really liked the idea because it would look much better for the viewer so i wanted to share it
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 2 жыл бұрын
I like your suspension based solution with dogs to keep the cross from over-rotating. You've re-invented the hammer drill.
@AgentWest
@AgentWest 2 жыл бұрын
Some time ago i needed to design a conveyor that would advance by a certain distance, then pause. A Geneva mechanism was one of the propositions, but i ended up using a Quick Return Mechanism (sometimes known as Whitworth Quick Return Mechanism or Shaper Mechanism). It consists of a rocking arm with a slot; a pin that's connected to a rotating wheel rides in that slot. With one rotation of the wheel the arm rocks to one side, then returns back at a faster speed. Should be a really simple build in SM, nudge nudge wink wink lol
@jumbojetnator
@jumbojetnator 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@electropulse3490
@electropulse3490 2 жыл бұрын
ScrapMan's videos are getting educational.
@TheHairyBeastie
@TheHairyBeastie 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool! when are you building the rest of the clock ? :)
@owenkotal8805
@owenkotal8805 2 жыл бұрын
@ScrapMan you should do it again but with 8 "channels", using the 1x1 wedge block in an 8 sided star pattern. You could probably get a lot more interesting movement patterns as you could have up to 8 pins, and it would be a cool follow up working it into a spud gun or something (or maybe a walker with an interesting movement mechanism?)
@olivercooksey2243
@olivercooksey2243 2 жыл бұрын
Long term project of constructing a watch would make my month
@trybrain6836
@trybrain6836 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content so much and the information with it. Maybe try something with soft cloth in Scrap Mechanic for reference I would recommend the KZfaqr Duff, there I first saw it. Maybe you could implement that in a Multiplayer Monday sometimr
@Jonanation
@Jonanation 2 жыл бұрын
Durf is actually a good friend of Scrapman and was on the MM crew a while ago, so I am guessing Scrapman already knows about it, but yeah, he should totally do something with it :D
@RogueAero
@RogueAero 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can use wedges to make an actual ratcheting mechanism is amazing and give me some ideas fo when I get a new PC and hop back into my survival world.
@potatoman9654
@potatoman9654 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video scrapman u should make a Ekranoplan in trailmakers.
@besquareorbethere8093
@besquareorbethere8093 2 жыл бұрын
"We can make it faster without going faster" That confused me for a second, but then I used my brain.
@Burschlag
@Burschlag 2 жыл бұрын
2:29 My Kinematics of Machinery course in college used similar software called dynacam and linkages to help with visualizing mechanisms. I might just have to send you my old Kinematics textbook, you'd probably get a kick out of it
@newnamepending7084
@newnamepending7084 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite video in a long time.
@minerharry
@minerharry 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that works SO WELL in SM!
@tropicalvikingcreations
@tropicalvikingcreations 2 жыл бұрын
The comment section over here talking about guns and clock mechanisms, meanwhile I'm here like but can it work as a transmission system for a vehicle though? Or will the transfer mess it up? While typing this I also thought that it might need two of those ratcheting mechanisms to allow it to slip and keep momentum but then still apply torque, if anyone wants to try to build it. Thanks for trying and showing this one Scrapman. Really made me go "HMMMM!!!!!!" Also thanks anonymous clock maker for laying some pretty cool groundwork.
@Raffeldy
@Raffeldy 2 жыл бұрын
I read the title, looked at the thumbnail, realized what it was, read the title again and laughed. Genius pun! :D
@markkovachev
@markkovachev 2 жыл бұрын
Helo scrapman I have an idea that I think is only doable in trailmakers A plane which moves left and right on its one wing to turn.Noted: the wing must stay stationary for the most part.
@maxetzescobar5755
@maxetzescobar5755 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@bonerbeats
@bonerbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Scrapman Look up The M400 Sky-car i still remember reading a article in 2003ish Paul Moller Tried to make a real life VTOL I think you will like the idea and story Can be made in either Trailmakers or Scrap Mechanic
@Orblets
@Orblets 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how that sounds!!! ConCave Curve Capabilities.
@reedbunting5745
@reedbunting5745 2 жыл бұрын
You should mess around with the soft body objects in vanilla scrap mechanic that durf made some videos on
@mr.creeper6836
@mr.creeper6836 2 жыл бұрын
Scrapman seven minutes in: Well boys we did it, no Geneva mechanism is no more
@robertbalazslorincz8218
@robertbalazslorincz8218 2 жыл бұрын
Okay now use this to make a RAIL LOCOMOTIVE or CAR. Actually that twitching motion breaking the mechanism could be resolved with a few well-placed wedges. Put the ratchets on a controlled switch that can rotate them 180 degrees.
@loganswan866
@loganswan866 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids your my favorite KZfaqr
@HalfWolf2
@HalfWolf2 2 жыл бұрын
That last part with the pauses would be great for a metronome, in 4/4 time you could have it pause one or play a different noise via color sensor, and the speed of the engine will adjust bpm while the number of pins is the measure time
@derpyaxolotl7683
@derpyaxolotl7683 2 жыл бұрын
14:46 best part of this video
@sirenheadbutnot
@sirenheadbutnot Жыл бұрын
he has ascended to anti anti gravity
@guts60
@guts60 2 жыл бұрын
Theoretically this would have been easier in Trailmakers. I actually made a Pentigrade Walker in it
@johnderat2652
@johnderat2652 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been worst in Trailmakers, the physics in that game are more janky than SM's
@reddrakus2937
@reddrakus2937 2 жыл бұрын
Physics are more realistic in trailmakers
@guts60
@guts60 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnderat2652 Not really. Due to the more realistic physics, the things I build, and I build really complex creations that go exactly to max complexity, tend to work perfectly (other than causing lag). Simple things like this would be easier in Trailmakers, especially since you can make circles
@turtleburger5
@turtleburger5 2 жыл бұрын
10:47 I like you, because this right here, would have been enough for me, and I would have called it a day. P.s. I really like the direction, content has gone in.
@TicketxBooth
@TicketxBooth 2 жыл бұрын
THE RATCHETING MECHANISM!!! 😧🤯 genius!
@_Ordinace_
@_Ordinace_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting thing to try, although hard would be a horizontal helicopter, its blades spin like wheels on a car and their angle changes so it always produces upwards lift, then by changing the angles of the blades you can make it fly forwards or backwards and also add tank steering
@Heyec
@Heyec 2 жыл бұрын
Concave curve capabilities creates countless captivating creative contraptions, cautiously curated.
@joenathan3860
@joenathan3860 2 жыл бұрын
In theory you could build the driven wheel (red one) bigger, but keep the drive wheel (green one) the same size, and use wedge block for a forty five degree angle, you could have eight slots for the driven gear
@redpug5042
@redpug5042 2 жыл бұрын
i swear this is what my school's clocks do. They just randomly tick like 10-15 seconds, then stop, then jump another 10-15 seconds, etc.
@SkrafEyeQ
@SkrafEyeQ 2 жыл бұрын
i like that you use vanilla even tho the pogygon mod would really help or you are just... or you didnt think of that
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 2 жыл бұрын
A MM where you make cars with this mechanism used to drive the wheels would be funny.
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 2 жыл бұрын
If we're staying on the topic of timepiece mechanisms, you could try to make a clock escapement in SM.
@krzysztofkozakiewicz3920
@krzysztofkozakiewicz3920 2 жыл бұрын
I love how scrap turned from basically making vehicles models to building scientifically accurate things.
@tuxedocat3620
@tuxedocat3620 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a working clock with an actual clock mechanism!
@redofredocap3000
@redofredocap3000 2 жыл бұрын
Still remember when I came across this man with a fabulous mustach and it's a daily thing now
@CorruptedRipper
@CorruptedRipper 2 жыл бұрын
Next you gotta build a useful machine that uses this system in a meaningful way. Find a use for this honestly cool build you did :3
@Ewout761
@Ewout761 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the geneva mechanism in cars, that would be fun lol
@LORDMM.
@LORDMM. Жыл бұрын
x spins per second is the new way to measure speed lol
@leoncaples2947
@leoncaples2947 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Historical science!!
@TazerLazer05
@TazerLazer05 2 жыл бұрын
You could also try to build a model of a single piston dual overhead cam engine to show mechanics like the opening and closing of valves with the camshaft in Scrap Mechanic.
@elTT91
@elTT91 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video mister American Scraper ! Keep up the great puns !
@BobBob-wq1mm
@BobBob-wq1mm 2 жыл бұрын
They are also VERY important in film movie cameras, without them we would never see the past in motion
@Vessekx
@Vessekx 2 жыл бұрын
You could probably use the massive quarter circle pieces (the cylinder parts of what you use to make the balls) to create a curve large enough to mimic a concave version of it with wedges & pipes.
@obiddy1756
@obiddy1756 2 жыл бұрын
This has a lot of cool possibilities, I wonder if this could be done with controllers to make a vehicle powered by it. Kind of like piston powered vehicles.
@slakkie_
@slakkie_ 2 жыл бұрын
ok, now make a car with weels powered by this cool mechanism.
@i_forgor7268
@i_forgor7268 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this helps, try the klann linkage mechanism
@bagelfox1314
@bagelfox1314 2 жыл бұрын
Major Challenge Scrapman. How about taking the boston dynamics robot. And try to put it into either Trailmakers or Scrap mechanic.
@aytelonne6866
@aytelonne6866 2 жыл бұрын
when i did my version of a Geneva Mechanism, i also made it spring locked but mine is smaller, the 2 parts are aligned, not diagonal like yours, and it can go both ways i also made one that move rotate one way because an arm push it on the forward movement but it bends on the way back like a ratchet
@melody3741
@melody3741 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genius by the way
@eliasmeyerjakobsen3268
@eliasmeyerjakobsen3268 2 жыл бұрын
i just heard the C`s SOO loud in my head when he said "Concave curve" :D
@anthonyplacek9703
@anthonyplacek9703 Жыл бұрын
you should use this as a primary driving mechanism for a puzzle box or maze for you and the guys
@kylebryce7
@kylebryce7 2 жыл бұрын
I think an actual clock/clock-like mechanism would be cool to see in sm (maybe with an offset arm that reaches up with a suspension or piston piece than can go through the middle arm so they don't collide)
@ninjashinobi1538
@ninjashinobi1538 2 жыл бұрын
Try the crank and piston mechanism, hope this helps
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