I think it's a bit of a shame MMO mice haven't really escaped the 'mmo' branding, since I think there's a lot of potential we might be missing outside that space. I've been using one for all sorts of media editing for a decade now and it's such a useful part of the workflow. I'd be curious to see if a branding shift to other customer groups would help push a bit of innovation?

I originally got an MMO mouse for WoW, but I can't play any games without one now. Having almost all your hotkeys set to your mouse and keeping the keyboard purely for movement feels so much cleaner.

I feel like this would make an awesome productivity mouse, I’ve added it to my music production gear wishlist since it would really help with macros in DAWs (I use Ableton for electronic and Mixcraft for recording live vocals/instruments)

Finally I can make use of my thumb while gaming lol. On a more serious note, having more mouse buttons is more of a game changer than many people might think. You don't have to let go of WASD for any given action or selection which can make a huge difference in heated situations. Some games take more advantage of this than others but when it does it really shines. Not to mention all the use cases outside of gaming. I LOVED my G602 while browsing and working back in the day.

I have used Reddragon, now on my 3rd MMO style mouse in probably 5 years, cannot go back to a mouse with just a couple of side buttons. I really do think these should be rebranded, I have never played an MMO, but for productivity and general use it really should be adopted more. I use it for copy, paste, volume, skipping tracks, closing windows, switching windows, opening file explorer, closing windows etc. These should be called swiss army knife mice. Glad to see Steelseries doing this, hope more follows

Straight to the meat and detailed info. Exactly what I was looking for. Subscribed!

I use this mouse for Apex. For the side buttons: key 1-=Weapon slot 1. Key 3-=Weapon slot 2. (I separate them so I don’t accidentally press one of them and key-2 is harder to hit without accidentally hitting 3 or 1). Key-4 =crouch (makes sense because it’s lower and became very intuitive over time for crouching, sliding, etc.) key-5=put weapon away. key-9= heal & heal wheel when holding. Key-8= map. Key-7= throwables & throwable wheel when holding. Key-12= emotes etc. I still keep reload as R on keyboard, and X as ultimate etc.

for me it would be perfect to get a wireless superlight of the g600 using the HERO 25K sensor and modern mechanical or optical switches. its my favorite mouse and i love having the 12 buttons on the side and the ring finger mouse click and having those upgrades would make it soo much better

I use cut to size velcro strips on my G600 mouse's side buttons to help get a feel which buttons are which ie num2 num5 num11 have a square velcro strip on them it helps make it more obvious where your thumb is placed, looks like this mouse would benefit from this as well.

this actually appeals to me as a video editor! i've been using the corsair scimitar with those 12 thumb macros for 3 years, and it's alright. but after trying lighter mice, it's a bit dummy thicc these days and the wire doesn't help. i do wish the side buttons were textured; the corsair scimi has alternating textured rows so it's easier to recognize the buttons. but not a dealbreaker--when you use these types of mice, there is always a unique learning curve you gotta drill into your head! the price isn't.. great. but for what it is, it's not horrendous. will DEF look into this! 🙌

If I didn't use the G-shift excessively on the G600, I'd be tempted. I got mine initially for MMOs (and a wireless naga battery blew up in my hand) It's been the gold standard for me in the market, it's cheap feels good in my hands and I can always use the buttons for productivity and gaming, though I did get a second mouse for FPS/MOBA just because of the weight. It's tempting between wireless and weight, Bluetooth toggle would be handy for swapping computers too which is something I've had to do more recently. I don't think I can make the jump, but it's good enough for me to side eye it quite a bit. As for the button lay out, I just mentally see it as a numpad, helped me jump into it quite a bit once it clicked in my head.

i love you frank, big hug from brazil, been watching your videos since 2018 (bought a k70rgb because of your video)

the 123 side button layout is the most common for other mice like this. its built for MMO style gameplay (usually tab target) where your 1-6 buttons are the most common spells and therefore easiest to use repetitively

Hey, Frank! Great review on this mouse. Unfortunately not a pickup for me but it's great to see MMO mouses finally getting some attention again. Hopefully this helps some other companies to try and re-innovate the style. Have you had any interest in odd types of keypads for review? We usually see the style like the Razer Tartarus, but I picked up an Azeron Compact last year and it's completely changed the way I play "keyboard" and mouse. More shocking, it's gotten no attention outside of a review years ago by one channel. Would be awesome to see you give it some attention despite it being a little pricier than some other reviews you've done. Thanks for your content!

I use the Logi "mmo" mouse and I love. Took the weights out of it. I only use about 4 of the side buttons during most games, but it's great. I put any "hand items" on the mouse; reloading, interact, skills, lethal grenades, etc. and then I keep my left hand for movement. Am I any good at games? No.

I've been using Corsair's Scimitar RGB pro for years which has this same sort of keypad and layout, although on the corsair evey other vertical row has a different texture to help orient yourself, with a bump on the 5 as well. I honestly couldn't live without it

As an MMO player, this is HUGE. All of the other options on the market are so bulky and so heavy. If this mouse has a good feeling layout, it will take over the mmo community

Really cool review! I been waiting for Steelseries to release an MMO mouse for ages. I am a huge FFXIV player who has been using Razer Naga's since their first release but have been dissapointed with the drop in quality on the later models. Steelseries innovates a lot with their peripherals so I been eyeing up this mouse on amazon and this review was still awesome to see. The one thing I want to add as that it would be really hard for them to statically change the button order on the side of the mouse for the market they are targeting with the mouse, as at least with me I am a simple person who doesn't customize the buttons much, and like to have the order match the flow I have been using ever since the OG naga back in 2014 so having reverse numpad is a must ( I really tried to swap to the EVGA mmo mouse at some point but man that was weird, cool but so weird). That being said, having stickers to lay over them, or maybe something like mini elgato stream deck buttons so they can match whatever the user macros onto them (with internal storage to stay that way) would be a super cool premium option that could be so cool if any company wanted to go that far for a niche product.

THANK YOU! SO F’KING MUCH! I’ve been using MMO/MOBA mice for years for shooters because I hate having to let go of the WASD keys and for some reason beyond my understanding, most people disagree with me and brush off that reasoning. I have no idea why they don’t see the logic but I’m glad to finally hear it on a review from a bigger channel.

I just bought mine last night. Can’t wait to try it tomorrow. I like and recommend it!Specially since you can customize sensitivity and buttons!Great!!!😬

RandomFrankP Is everything okay? where is the monthly tech video for May? Awesome video as always!!!!

I have had the Razer Naga Trinity for the past 10+ years (I forgot the name of the original one) I use the mouse for every game, especially FPS, and I will never go back. Frank... THANK YOU for showing me my new mouse, just bought using your link!

I used a Schimitar Pro for so long playing FPS games, and finally moved to something lighter but hated having to relearn all my keybinds, and having them moved off the mouse, but this is the perfect middle ground

The 123 vertical layout was a result of the first MMO mouse from Razer which would be accompanied by addons that would load into WoW that would mimic the spell bar in that same fashion. To me the 123 vertical makes the most sense. You read left to right and top to bottom.

good looking mouse Frank, certainly catered for certain types of games, I too play FPS games and just because of the panic that tends to kick in when playing these them I could see me constantly hitting the wrong buttons on the side 🤣

Ever since Glorious dropped that first mouse I've been wondering who would be the first to give an MMO mouse that treatment. Seems we have our answer now, Steelseries, interesting, was expecting it be Razer. Not for me, but really cool to see and immediately wireless too which also puts it ahead of the competition. Will be interesting to see if the others respond.

Thoughts on the transparent mouse hand while streaming? Is it a good idea, or does it distract too much?

Great find 🥰👍😇. The MMO / MMOG etc market has been left high n dry by manufacturers for quite a while now. I personally got a great deal a while back on the Redragon “IMPACT ELITE M913” Wireless mouse for $35USD on a sale directly from Redragon. It ways about 125g on my scales (129g on website) and it’s an awesome wireless design with support and grip for ALL fingers which is great to see. If it was a little lighter i would says it’s the GOAT for me. I’ve tried Razer and Logitech, but the Redragon is the best for me by far with function and comfort!

The 12-button number order is the same as the Corsair Scimitar. I've been wanting a wireless Scimitar for years now, so I may have to pick this one up.

I am still hoping Roccat will make a new version of the Nyth, that was by far the best mouse if you to customize ur mouse and the buttons well perfect as well. Both this steelseries mouse as the corsair one has a lot of buttons, but the surface is flat, meaning that it can be hard to distinguish the different buttons, this wasnt the case with the Nyth. How will it perform with sweaty hands though? The sweat will fall right through... especially in the summer.. I was forced to get the corsair scimitar elite., that one at least allows for moving the buttons left or right for optimum thumb placement based on ur hand.

Picked this up on discount after being a religous user of the razer naga series since 2011 as an MMO player, I was starting to notice some wrist strain from how heavy the naga is so I figured I owuld give this a go. The weight difference is immediately noticable, I prefer the 12 button layout as well. I do miss the ergonomic shape and mechanical buttons for the 12 button grid on the naga though, but the tradeoff was worth it for me.

The feature I find most important in a mouse is onboard memory. I hate having software running and cannot download third party software on my work computer. I rarely seen much mention of this in reviews and if it was mentioned here I missed it.

I picked up one of these on prime day along with a huntsman mini. Got a pretty good deal

I’ve been using 18/21 button mice for over 6 years now. The other day I saw an add for this I thought it was some kind of scam because of how good it sounded but after watching this I’m definitely gonna get one. Thank you so much for the honest review

Can I just say I use a corsair scimitar pro with 12 buttons and I pretty much only play fps. I converted from controller 5 years ago and it really helps me and I will be buying this mouse 🔥

I went from the razer naga mmo to the logitech g600 mmo because i was having reliability issues with the razer and had to replace it a few times, for almost half the price and 1/3 the price of the steel series, I'll take the extra weight and stick with my g600

I've been using a G600 for many many years and it took me maybe a month or two to bind stuff to all the buttons. I am looking for a more modern replacement and this is pretty close if only it had a ring finger button. I bound ESC to mine and i can't go back to not having ESC at my fingertips at all time. It is super useful in games and for work.

i have a trust gxt 970 and i'm using macros for everything like closing/opening tabs, moving left right on tabs (no more sniping those tiny tabs) copy paste and all sorts of constant use functions. I used to have a 12 button one but it felt really clunky and tiring to press the buttons. This one looks really nice and a step above in quality, but I wish it was 9 buttons instead of 12

Wish I knew about this sooner all seem to be sold out in Australia. Going from a g pro superlight in FPS to a Scimitar for WoW and FFXIV the weight difference is jaring.

For that price I would expect individual mechanical switch buttons, like on the Naga, which are easier to press and don't wear out your thumb.

I really wish that these wireless mice would have a hotswapable battery. I quite recently got the Steelseries Nova Pro Wireless headset & having the dock charge a battery while your using the other, especially since the batteries last so long & charge so fast. OMG gamechanger. I really don't see why they couldn't apply this same technology to mice as the mouse itself already has a battery that adds weight, so adding the ability to say eject it out the side & slap in a freshly charged battery would be amazing. No more having to worry about your mouse running out of battery & having to charge it, 24/7 365 computing with no wires. You can't tell me that wouldn't be awesome.

About 6 years ago I wanted a Logitech mouse but it was out of stock so my dad got the corsair scimitar pro, at the time I said "why would I need 12 macro buttons" although now I can't live without them. My mouse is starting to have a few hiccups, left click randomly unmapped itself when I was playing halo, and the scroll button died 3 years ago so I've had to remap it to the 6 key and overall the mouse doesn't start up with windows sometimes. I was gonna buy the same mouse or the updated model so I can use iCue4 cuz mine doesn't support it but considering I don't have many corsair products anymore so this may be my new mouse weighing it WIRELESS!

Should i upgrade from my g604 to this? Is there much of a differece? I have big hands so I went with the g604 for that reason (and thumb rest) but also mainly for the buttons. I don't mind the weight but sometimes i do notice it and other days i don't. So should I upgrade?

I've been saying thumbgrids should go 1-4 on the bottom row since the first naga came out, thankfully I can just rebind it that way myself.

I personally only want a true successor wireless successor to the g600...that 3rd primary button is really nice

Traded my G Pro wireless (which I got for free in a trade) for this mouse as I needed something bigger as I have big hands. Options were the Corsair Ironclaw (but I wanted wireless and I hate the extra buttons that sit next to the left clicks), Razer Deathadder v3 Pro (had a v2 pro and loved it), or the Roccat Kain 200. I saw the Aerox 9 at Best Buy and messed with it and was shockingly surprised how nice it felt. I'm not into MMO games so its a welcome feature that the 12 side buttons are actually stiff so no accidental presses. I love the grip and the feel as I have a resting palm grip. Don't get me wrong, I was worried at first trading one of the best gaming mice in the market for a MMO mouse that I has more features than what I will use but its nice. Recommended for FPS and for big hands. Glad I made the trade!

I buying it to test it out. Can always return it quick and easy at BB. The whole mouse and if I keep it will come down to where my thumb will rest. The way I hold mice or grip. Is finger-tip/claw style and often my thumb can be further forward. All depending on shape of mouse of course. So if my thumb rest on the lower 4 keys in the front. so 1,2,4,5 then it might feel great easy click access and easy to memorize button position. I mostly would use the first two 1-6 buttons and mouse side wheel clicks. The other buttons would be for "inventory", "map" etc that I don't use often but have ease of access to on mouse. I love lots of buttons on my mice for any game. It's so convenient to be able to open up stuff in game and assign. Just playing battlefield you need 6-7 ease of access buttons for guns, equipment and so on. Anyway, I love buying at BB for ease of return.

I may have to try this over my Razer Naga!

I've got this mouse and it's amazing!! Best insta purchase I've ever had. ❤️

This is the best mice ive seen for my needs. I don't play a lot of mmo but i use the Logitech G600 and for editing Videos or quick switching in games its really helpful. Price on the mouse shown in this video is Decent but not going to buy it any time soon. Its a bit out of my budget lol

all of the moba mouses have the keys in that orientation you get used to it super easy. the theory of the mouse is to use the 5 button as the guide because of the little nub on it. I feel like if you played with the style for a while like I have you would fell no different. My concern of the buttons on the side is the fact that the buttons are sized very strangely at the top vs the bottom

Subscribing you again for reviewing steelseries products

I've used a these type of mice for shooters for so many years 😂i love being able to switch guns and equipment right at the click of my thumb but my naga trinity is for sure on the heavier side

Ordered mine today. Been using an MMO mouse on games like Apex and Valorant for years. So excited to see what this baby can do

Hoping more brands start adding onboard memory. Theres alot of mice that have amazing utility but working at companies that dont allow unauthorized programs make it the same as a normal mouse

too many buttons, ill accidently press the wrong button and unlock the basement instead of the cage D:

The lightweight refresh is way overdue for this class of mice IMHO. Been using the G604 and the Naga Pro. I decided to stay with Razer because of their optical switches and the mic mute option in Synapse. Their bluetooth absolutely sucks compared to Logitech and their software is occasionally buggy but you can't have everything. I guess I'll never switch to a mouse without the mic mute option in its software

Got excited there for a moment, thinking there was a new MMO mouse that was bigger than the G600 Im using now, but alas no. I really like the G600 but its just too small for my big hands to be comfortable.

I play FF14, so I like the MMO mouse. I was using a the wired Razer Trinity, I got the Aerox 9 about a week ago, I love it. It's lighter and I like the buttons on the side more. With my grip, my thumb rest on the 5 button.

I like mounting the buttons I need to use often but need to take my wasd fingers off of to press on the side mouse buttons, such as the crouch and melee buttons. I think I would be good with three or four buttons, but this is too much. My current mouse is the redragon M686, and that has three side buttons and tow dpi up and down buttons, but it's kinda a brick.

I think it's great to have some competition in the MMO mouse area, since there's really nothing else (that I know of) than Razer Naga. However I don't really see why one would buy this instead of the Naga, since the Naga Pro is cheaper and it has changeable button layouts. I don't think the light weight really makes a difference in the games this is made for, MMOs and MOBAs

I have been waiting SO LONG FOR a mmorpg mouse with these specs.

i really wished for a Corsair Scimitar ELITE RGB Wireless. That would be the PERFECT MMO Mouse

bro glorious model i and aerox 9 this year gonna be a banger

OMG! I have been waiting for an ultra-light wireless naga from a Razer for soooo long, but for some freakin' reason it was made just now and by Steelseries

just bought one bcs all the hype, aerox 9 feels comfortable to use except when you use the side button (which is the main selling point), all off the 1st and 2nd row side button is facing down, so when you press that button ur gonna lift your mouse.

Yo u got a new mic?? It sounds soo clean

As an MMO player who loves to play some FPS games too, this is huge. If I never bought a Logitech G Pro & Corsair Scimitar Pro, this would be my one and only mouse. Hope other brands will follow, but not the price.

I still have my razer naga epic chroma. Needs a service tho bcs when i lift it up too high (which is not high at all) and set it back down it takes a second to reactivate

I always found the mice that have those keyboards on the side as too hard to get used to. I like extra buttons, but any more than the G502 is just too many.

Hyte y60 case review? It looks super clean

Perfect timing, mine just showed up today ha

i only jus saw this at bestbuy the other day, been using it with csgo because i always used either the corsair scimitar or the naga pro and it's my new fav mouse!

Hi. Does the mouse pair with the steelseries apex pro tkl wireless keyboard dongle too to keep a usb port free for some other usb device?

Do the changes to the mouse stay on the mouse? Meaning, if I went to another computer that did not have any steelseries software on it, would the mouse have all the settings still?

I've had 3 wireless naga pros now and they get extremely buggy and even briefly stop working all together while using them wireless, which can really mess you up during games. Currently I have to use my naga pro wireless with the wire to keep it stable. I loved the steel series rival 500 mmo mouse but they stopped making it. Steel series' software is way better than razor's, which I find, is kind of bloaty and obnoxious comparatively. The way steel series decided to alternate the raised buttons on this one looks nice too, plus its competitive enough to be considered fps worthy? I'll have to try this out.

No shift button for a second layer of commands for the side buttons is a deal breaker for me. All Logitech would have to do would be release the g600 as wireless and in white again and it would be an instant hit. Until that day I'll stick with my wired g600 for FFXIV and my superlight for everything else.

I love my wired logitech G600 mmo mouse i wish they would get off their arses and make a wireless version so i could pair both my fps 502 mouse and my mmo mouse to the same receiver, hell even if it stayed the same weight i'd be happy as to have it.

been using an mmo mouse for years now, once you get used to the buttons you can do all kinds of things. also I much prefer this layout, I tried the g502? which has the buttons kinda like your example and I absolutely disliked that.

Rival 500 is still the goat of MMO mice imo, the ergonomics of it are unmatched and its such a shame we haven't had a revised version.

Such a shame the side 12 buttons aren't adjustable like the Corsair Scimitar. I would have bought this ASAP!

looking fresh in the Jersey fam!

could you review the redragon m913? it also has 12 side buttons but might be a better shape

as an mmo player mainly wow and FF14 I have no problem with the buttons and I'm happy finally SteelSeries entering the game with wireless mmo mice now we need 60% or 65% wireless keyboard

This is big, long time Logitech fan because of the G600. I will give this a try tho

i got this mouse and its really awkward to hold in comparison to my old razer naga and current logitech g600. its WAYY too long and MUCH heavier than the naga and slightly more than the g600. *(despite being advertised light weight)* the side buttons are smaller at the front and bigger in the back, as well as slanted inward from top to bottom making them hard to press while holding normally. ESPECIALLY when moving the mouse (y'know? the main thing mice are meant to do...) the honey comb pattern continues to the left and right mouse buttons making it really weird to click, and i would imagine, painful after long use. i decided to return it after using it for like 40 seconds, its really bad... overall just get a g600

I'm pretty sure that my Corsair Scimitar weighs a pound and a half. I can't even use it for gaming anymore. I switched to the Naga specifically because of weight so this is very tempting.

This late into 2022 and I am still waiting on the Chakram X from Asus to come out. I just want a good wireless charging mouse.

I am giving up on waiting Logitech G600 Wireless and gonna pick this.

I'm so glad it has tilt click. I'm using the MX master 3 for everything other than gaming, for that I have the Viper mini and neither have the tilt click, I had it on my old mouse and got so used to it I miss having it lol. That Viper mini is such a good value, I picked it up for 39.99 on amazon.

is it bluetooth multi-connect? I like to jump between my work-laptop, home-desktop, and Samsung DEX with x1 Arteck bluetooth keyboard and logitech mouse. I want a gaming quality wired mouse, that can be unplugged and used as bluetooth and can swtich between devices.

I've always wanted a wireless lightweight mmo mouse with a shape to use for fps. This product is a dream come true... too bad it's too expensive.

I use the Logitech G600. It's huge, chonky, has a ring-finger button, and its $40. The 12 side buttons feel great, they're not cramped, it feels good in the hand, but it's heavy as fuuuuck and all that weight goes to my pinky. I would love for logitech to give it a lightweight redesign because other than the weight, it's a perfect mouse *for me*. I don't even play mmo games, i just like not needing to move my hands away from the wasd area. I remap the 6 key to r for reloading amd rebind keys in game to whatever i need them to be and its great. I just wish it was so much lighter

Sounds good, I’ll try it when it hit $90

I've been hearing/reading the side buttons were hard to press in comparison to the Naga. Any truth to this?

I use the logitech g600 and love it. I feel like this will be a good replacement for when I want to go wireless, but I can't complain for $40 for the g600

Very interesting mouse, I didn t even know about his exsistence

what’s the width like between this and the Corsair and Razer? I bought a Naga Epic back in 2013 and it’s finally starting to have issues but I have super small hands and am struggling to find a replacement.

Is it possible to keep all settings in internal memory of the mouse without using the sofware after adjusting?

i think steelseries has another model with tilt scroll wheel from rival family, definitely interesting turn for steelseries to make lighter mmo mouse. bravo SS the market for mmo wireless lightweight mice is still wide open.