The Most Important Trick for Perfect Casing & Crown Miters

The Most Important Trick for Perfect Casing & Crown Miters - ROLL IT!

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Күн бұрын

"Rolling Miters" This is a must watch video and a must understand concept. If you want to execute perfect trim work even in bad situations, this is a necessary skill to understand and possess.
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0:00 A Better Way to Tweak Miters
1:05 Why Your Miters Don't Fit Tight
1:36 You Need to Know The Offset
2:28 The Miter Rolling Secret - Cut Miters "Nested"
6:22 Sometimes We Have No Choice But To "Roll" Miters
8:39 Can You Roll Miters & Preassemble???
9:36 How to Preassemble a "Rolled" Miter
11:17 Understand the Concept of Cutting Nested
12:19 An Extreme Example
13:56 For Perfection, Cut How It Will Sit on The Wall
14:23 Don't Do This Will Flat Profile Casing
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@InsiderCarpentry Жыл бұрын

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@csgamble Жыл бұрын

That tiny wedge is $100 for what it is that seems a bit pricy

@tissahewa1992 Жыл бұрын

One of the best trick i have leared today. thanks you lot.

@claypool1085 Жыл бұрын

Aquarium⁷q 11th qq

@Dave-ek2jx Жыл бұрын

Question. But first, great video. You always produce fantastic content. After watching this video, it got me thinking. Have you ever seen a trim detail where the casings were meant to have these rolled miters? E.g., the window jambs are intentionally, say, 3/4" proud and you must use this technique because the designer/homeowner wanted the look that creates? It seems like if it were done tastefully it could look really good.

@bmdman Жыл бұрын

Immediately bought both tools!

@royordway9157 Жыл бұрын

I've got 46 years as a carpenter under my belt and never thought of this and none of the people I have worked with brought it up. Thanks for the tip.

@farrarmarc Жыл бұрын

Same here. So simple!

@Koitus36 Жыл бұрын

My mind is blown!

@georgelutz8212 Жыл бұрын

Me 3

@danbob1650 Жыл бұрын

It's a shame that the generation from 1970-80 worker they were given the wisdom they were taught by old timer. But had stick in there butt to not going help you make you better fu . Your not taking my job or I just don't care. I was taught this by guy 5 yrs ago he was his 70s

@royordway9157 Жыл бұрын

@@danbob1650 I'm 66 and I hope to show a young carpenter this some day.

@capt_bry Жыл бұрын

i've got 128 years of being a Finnish carpenter, and something something never seen this before. Thanks for making this!

@maxcore2023 Ай бұрын

Oooh, rookie!😂

@backmarkerbanshee1220 Күн бұрын

I'm a Swedish carpenter.

@mjrwey Жыл бұрын

20 years of finish carpentry and I've never seen this trick. Really appreciate you making these videos

@jamesphillips9272 Жыл бұрын

Same here

@casimirkotarba5186 Жыл бұрын

In my 20 yrs i always used my pencil under the trim,,,it back cuts it and the front always looks tight

@bentonrp Жыл бұрын

It's easier to just use a hacksaw and eyeball it. 🤪

@Dave-nm3xc Жыл бұрын

This kid is the best trim carpenter I've seen on YT. 💯

@michaellatour9852 6 ай бұрын

Spencer you are truly a wizard. I'm so impressed by your work ethic,problem solving skills and overall aptitude for this trade. You have made me want to be a better trim carpenter and I appreciate you so much.

@InsiderCarpentry 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

@shinnick22 Жыл бұрын

Old guy I worked with years ago showed me this trick but he used a shim and marked it. Game changer.

@axxeman2002 Жыл бұрын

I'm only a DIY'er but what a great video and just love the no nonsense presentation; no robot voices or stultifying "muzak". Simply brilliant and brilliantly simple. Great job. 10/10

@gregstewart1895 Жыл бұрын

I am embarassed to say how many years I have been a carpenter and never have I seen someone with such a simple, reliable solution to problem of wonky extension jambs. I enjoy your orderly approach to the work ith details like your cut list holder.

@kennethwills2913 Жыл бұрын

My older brother, who is a trim carpenter, showed me this concept years ago. One thing that is new to me is the drill bit trick. That is slick. Thanks for a great video. I have never subscribed to a KZfaq channel before. You are the first. I just looked at the website for the step gauge and the price is awful. The same thing can be done with a marked shim or tapered piece of 1x. Slide it next to the proud jamb, mark it with a pencil, and use that to set the saw. Way cheaper, especially if you don't do it all the time.

@blaster-zy7xx 3 ай бұрын

Me too. We used shims to do this and sometimes cut the shims to use as spacers on the chop saw, but never heard of using drill bits.

@fredwehrhahn2162 Ай бұрын

Plus you can add a couple bucks to the bill under consumables to pay for the shims or just eat the expense as the cost of doing business.

@tonybrown7847 6 ай бұрын

It’s already been said but I’ll say it again. 30+ years as a carpenter and never seen this trick. Thanks Spencer. 👍🏻

@oscarjaeger2361 Жыл бұрын

Been in home improvement 50 yrs. I learn something new everyday. Great video

@CookeSonsCarpentry Жыл бұрын

This is why I love KZfaq! Just learned something awesome

@robertwagner3033 7 ай бұрын

This carpenter is spot on. I’ve framed 1000 homes and trim them as well as a carpenter contractor. When the window jamb is protruding past the drywall we sometimes power planed the jamb flush. I learned the method of tipping the trim piece exactly the way it would sit on the wall. Thicker casing is harder to do if you don’t tip while cutting. The problem with today’s windows is the jamb is not as wide as the wall due to the added weather proof tape and Tavel paper. Also when the windows are installed they have tendency to compress against the sheathing plus or minus. His method works . I did it with the miller falls manual miter box back in the day 1970s. When the jamb is not out far enough you either beat the heck out of the drywall or add jamb extensions

@duaynenaugle4186 Жыл бұрын

I owned a trim company and over the years trimmed out about 1500 houses. I never thought of this. I tried setting the chop saw at a slight angle but found it in accurate. We all had very sharp block planes and used them to touch up any joints that were not the best. You get pretty good at it after a while. Wish I would have thought about this back then. Nice work your doing on the channel

@andyfox5161 6 ай бұрын

I have over 35 years experience and this concept never entered my mind. I really appreciate the tips !

@InsiderCarpentry 5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@JuanSanchez-mk3ro Жыл бұрын

I guess an old dog can learn a new trick….Spencer by far you have one of the best channels on KZfaq. Keep up the good work!

@markhedquist9597 Жыл бұрын

I'm not even gonna read a single comment. I already know what they say. This is just plain carpentry gold here. I feel the same about looking back at how I fought these joints. Thanks so much for this!

@lanceleavitt7472 Жыл бұрын

What an amazingly simple idea. The only thing wrong, that I can see, is that I didn't think of it. Thanks you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

@awesometopics1988 6 ай бұрын

It really isn't amazing how long it took us to figure this out.. Thank you for that.. You just allowed me to learn this after twelve years of doing it

@davidjanis1997 Жыл бұрын

You are just as good if not better than Finish Carpentry TV. Keep up the good work!

@jtsloth Жыл бұрын

Explained so well that I knew what you were going to do before you did it. Thank you!

@MJ-qt4dm 6 ай бұрын

Awesome! As you said, "all the headaches I could have avoided over the years". Thank you!

@johnnyorbell4019 Жыл бұрын

Like an absolute mystic at 45 years of remodeling I guess I’ve been doing a lot of wiggling and padding out this technique is genius it’s so elementary duplicating the jamb situation at the saw thank you so very much for your knowledge and as always easy explanation of high quality content!

@bsmith2120 Жыл бұрын

An old dog CAN learn new tricks! Thank you.

@codydavis2009 Жыл бұрын

No words brother! In my circle of professionals I’m full of dark arts magic for carpentry… but I learn it all from you!! Thank you

@InsiderCarpentry Жыл бұрын

LOL That's funny!

@Dave-nm3xc Жыл бұрын

He's the real deal!

@user-sv2xw9gc7c 8 ай бұрын

I literally used this trick today on a old bay window that had a proud jamb on one corner and it worked like a charm!! Thanks for the tip!

@lyleconway6795 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!! A shim can do the same as the little step jig. Slide the shim along and put a pencil tick where it’s flush with the protruding jamb. At the chopsaw slide the shim in to the pencil mark under your piece of trim. Love your videos and knowledge man!

@gagegr Жыл бұрын

Great idea! I was going to 3D print a step gauge but this is easier

@tonybrown7847 6 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing but then think about the time it will take. I’d buy the step gauge once and be done with it

@dubmob151 2 ай бұрын

Could also just mark a shim at 1/16“ increments or to whatever accuracy is required. Could even have different shims with varying ramps to cover all ranges that might be encountered.

@cmennenger Жыл бұрын

Wow words can't describe how much this changes my work. Thank you

@tdz69 Жыл бұрын

My head just exploded. This is genius.

@RealTechSkills Жыл бұрын

One of the best tips I've seen in a while. Thank you for such valuable content.

@CaresforAll Жыл бұрын

I'm 67 so sad for me too! At least I've never done it as a profession but suffered through plenty. I would say this is probably one of the most if not the most valuable tricks I've seen. Now I have to find something to trim.

@RoaringOrange 11 ай бұрын

4:00 This camera angle is so satisfying!

@dominioncrowntv5197 Жыл бұрын

I think you made a separate video a few years back showing this technique and I instantly subscribed! This is a great trick to add to your bag of tricks 🔥

@thedumbassspeaks Жыл бұрын

I worker for a Serbian carpenter one time. He had me block plane the jamb extensions flush with the wall, which worked if they weren’t pre-primed or finished.

@jordangosse9609 Жыл бұрын

as an apprentice carpenter i really enjoy your videos you are a man of so much knowledge. keep up the great work

@andrewgiroux5332 Жыл бұрын

dude! you changed my life.

@mufuliramark Жыл бұрын

I’m not even a joiner and this was really helpful..

@peeloffrecords8496 Ай бұрын

Even preassembled miters will crack at the joint over time. It’s better to shim out the back on 1/16 to an 1/8 and let the caulk to the wall handle the rest. This is especially essential on profiled casing. Either way I love the rolled miter technique. Keep up the great craftsmanship

@waynemiller6070 Жыл бұрын

I've learned so much from you Spencer. You and Richard from Finish Carpentry TV are my go to's.... I appreciate all your help.

@mikec4834 Жыл бұрын

I think the 200k subs is only the beginning much respect to you young man!

@billmillar7234 Жыл бұрын

I've used drill bits and pencils to adjust the angles over the years....have also used a regular shim...most are 1/4"....slide the shim next to the casing and mark where it's flush..... simple...and you always have shims around

@jakewrtt Жыл бұрын

I’ve never used this technique but instantly thought to just use a shim. If a normal shim isn’t big enough well there’s bigger problems you need to take care before casing

@foreman3737 Жыл бұрын

Wow. After 20 years, you just changed my game. No more compound cuts. Thanks for pointing out something so simplistic.

@stephenhackley6479 Жыл бұрын

This was one of the most fascinating miter and casing videos I've ever watched. Thank you for this!!

@Linman27 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making me a better DIY carpenter. I have a lot of your videos saved in a specific category for my woodworking.

@robertromo4816 Жыл бұрын

This is great, I've been doing casing for a long time and this is the first time I've seen anything like this,,,,, Thanks.

@fmarku1125 Жыл бұрын

That’s very nicely explained, I’ve been doing carpentry for over 30 years and maybe It look stupid but never thought of this, never seen it before, best tip ever. Thanks. Really appreciate you making these videos and sharing this kind of tips, I have to say again that is BEST TIP EVER

@jacklassley8002 Жыл бұрын

30 years trimming and cabinets, and I’ve done it many ways, but I’ve never seen this. I’ve rolled crown to achieve this, but on windows and doors I’ve either cut back the drywall on recessed casing, or just shimmed the outer edge of the trim out to match leaving the painter to fill the void with caulk, which explains why painters usually cuss trim carpenters. Lol

@howdog007 Жыл бұрын

12 years of carpentry and just learning this for the first time. Thank you!!

@shan4083 Жыл бұрын

Man you are a very good teacher

@tdmjfountain Жыл бұрын

One of the best channels on KZfaq! You are a great teacher and I thank you for all your content.

@thedumbassspeaks Жыл бұрын

I tried this trick on a door trim today-magnificent!

@abc-ue1dr Жыл бұрын

So ingeniously simple - when you know the trick! Thanks a lot for sharing and explaining so well!

@bucketbill8143 Жыл бұрын

This is why I love this channel. You have saved me

@brocbradley2313 Жыл бұрын

Simply brilliant. A true professional.

@jarrodmeister4235 2 ай бұрын

Older video but I am great full for your knowledge and generosity to share it. I've been a carpenter for 28 years haven't done this and will try if this arises on the next job. Thank you for your contribution.

@KauaiDroneWRX 5 ай бұрын

I’m blown away! That’s an awesome technique. Thanks man 👍🏽

@targetshooter3 Жыл бұрын

trimming for 30 years. Where the hell were you then? This is the best trick I have learned yet Thank you so much. Now I have a trick for you......Get some safety glasses. I harp on this every time I we talk. Its just a matter of time before you crash.....and you will! That is my gift to you Spenscer. Roger the 78 year old one eyed chippie.

@InsiderCarpentry Жыл бұрын

Thanks Roger, i am getting into the habit more and more of keeping them on.

@nickalfonso4122 Жыл бұрын

I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve spent with my multi tool shaving the trim. This is so much better. No more caulk and shims for me

@derekrobertson1548 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great tip. I am just a diyer who is about to replace all doors and trim work in my house. This will help so much as nothing in this house has been put together the way I would like. My hallway is 5ft at one end and 6ft at the other and it is only 12ft in length. Thanks again.

@joshuamatheron1 Жыл бұрын

I’ve used this a few time after I saw it in an old video of yours. Works a treat! Thanks again

@billtex150 5 ай бұрын

Your videos are amazing. I have learned so much from you. I love the way you go into detail explaining things and at a speed slow enough that I can follow. Thank you for what you do. You are a great teacher.

@henryreinders3031 6 ай бұрын

Great tips. Been in the business a long time and learned a few tips with this video - thanks. As with most things, there is always something one can learn from other pros.

@bmdman Жыл бұрын

Just amazingly simple. I’d never come across this tip before. Thanks so much.

@joshbryant7363 Жыл бұрын

Really money tip! 20 year carpenter…never heard of this. Super slick.

@jaredhasenauer Жыл бұрын

I was this many years old!!!! 20 yrs!! 20 long years of teimming and i just learned this today. I've always back cut. I have it pretty much down, but I'll be doing this on the next house.

@jakeupmickey8175 Жыл бұрын

Bruh your a BaaaaaD MAN these cuts greaaaaaaaaatly appreciated

@stevehammerich7121 Жыл бұрын

My grandfather always told my do your best learn something new every day . This is awesome tip. We do lot of remodeling this will be put in my bag of tricks.

@darrelstickler 5 ай бұрын

This is needed advice. When we ordered our Pella windows, the contractor said to get them with jamb installed. Big mistake in an early 60s California house. Trim wasn’t in window contractor scope so bad person to get advice from. If we had instead got a bunch of clean pine from Pella, could have just cut jambs to fit the drywall particulars in each room. Window guy installed the windows per Pella requirements, but the house was not pure. This video will help me finally finish the job.

@richardhingle3634 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant...60 years of cursing like a drunken sailor gone!

@greensidedesignbuild3469 Жыл бұрын

Another awesome video. How did I not know this before. So simple. 💪🏻

@joeoverman3793 Жыл бұрын

Thx for sharing your tricks in trim work. Noone that I know does this or taught me this in my 23 yrs of miter cuts

@jecht34 Жыл бұрын

This is excellent instruction. Thank you for all the great tips and meticulous demonstration. Teaching is a lot of work- you do it well.

@robertwagner3033 7 ай бұрын

Again, this method works as when you tip the molding you are creating a compound miter . Cut it the way it sits on the wall.bravo to the young carpenter

@hardasnails64 Жыл бұрын

Another thing you can do if the drywall is proud is what i do in most cases. Smash the drywall behind where the casing goes on the wall. Slightly mark where the outside of the casing goes so you know where to stop smashing. Lol. Works like a charm :)

@osmith5086 Жыл бұрын

Yep. Smashing. unfortunately, I know exactly what you're talking about. Haha.

@5zwoodworks Жыл бұрын

You just humbled a lot of people. Myself included. Thank you very much!

@ching574 2 ай бұрын

amazing trick so simple but you'd never think about it haha

@micheledumas-quesnel8964 Ай бұрын

WOW.this has got to be the best video about window casing that I saw. THANK YOU! Not only is the « in the nesting position » trick completely simple but brilliant , but the quality of your video is A1. You speak slowly,clearly, you make sur the camera is properly placed so we see all the details of what you’re showing at Al, time, showing us from close but clear, and taking the time to explain every step of the way. I subscribed, and can’t wait to see what else you’ve be putting out there!

@mikeandcolleenk9831 8 сағат бұрын

Quality craftsman work . Little adjustments go a long ways .

@danstill1111 Жыл бұрын

Thank you sooooo much for your videos. I am a trim apprentice with 6 months on the job. Was fighting a proud door jam today of about 3/16. Spent longer than I will admit publicly rigging the compound miter to get a good tight fit. Stopped watched this video and put your technique into action and it worked perfectly. Not to sound over dramatic, but this is life changing for me. Thank you again. …is there some way to support this channel above subscribing and liking? You should offer paid classes!

@InsiderCarpentry Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@swooopg Жыл бұрын

Most of us here had to learn these techniques the long hard way! He knows his stuff and you would be wise to learn everything you can from this channel. Use it as a guide and you will figure out how you like to do things your own way.

@joelw6215 Жыл бұрын

I was hired to help set some Marvin French doors. And if you would do a video on setting doors with 3 way adjustments it probably would have saved me 3 hours of labor. It took me 1 hour to set the first door and I would be lying if I said I didn’t want to throw my drill through the glass

@swooopg Жыл бұрын

@@joelw6215 French doors can definitely be a pain! Especially if you have a floor out of level or walls that don’t line up! I Always check the opening thoroughly before I attempt to set double doors

@rickyperkins232 Жыл бұрын

@@InsiderCarpentry bro bro super thank you very much

@wayneyadams 11 ай бұрын

This is a great tip, just like all the tips you give. You can't beat professional carpenters for knowing the tricks to making work easier.

@tomhughes4980 Жыл бұрын

We used to back plane the jamb leaving and 1/8 flat, most sheetrock was 3/8 and a jamb of 4-9/16, this way has made life easier, I like the step gauge, time to order one.

@batch5626 Жыл бұрын

Dude this is rad. WTF have I been caulking these gaps for?? Haha

@DesmoProfundis 2 ай бұрын

This is a fantastic trick. I am a construction instructor at a technical college and just got done making crown molding simple for my students. This trick is the next thing I'm going to throw in their mental toolbox. Thanks!😮

@InsiderCarpentry 2 ай бұрын

I wish I had known the trick earlier in my career. Good for you teaching it!

@gregallen690 Жыл бұрын

Awesome idea!!!!!!!!!! 👌 thank you so much!!!! I'm 56 yrs old & never knew about this trick. (Never too old to learn) 😁

@HistoricHomePlans Жыл бұрын

16:00 Thanks for putting in the extra effort and sharing your knowledge.

@raveniskcrow Жыл бұрын

This was one of the most detailed moldings. It was very well explained. WOW

@deangarner4 9 ай бұрын

I've watched this twice now, having consumed the information the first time. I just really like it. Great talk, bro

@jonathanwright4995 Жыл бұрын

That drill bit as a spacer is BRILLIANT! Useful idea for many things. Thanks for that one.

@Cimone90 2 ай бұрын

Thats a pretty neat way of tackling this. When you first showed the problem, my inital thought was to run the piece through a router table to recess the back edge of it.

@scottsmith182 Жыл бұрын

Thats awesome. It took a minute to wrap my brain around it, then it clicked. Thanks.

@scottbertrand2057 Жыл бұрын

Very simple fix for a complex problem.. as always great work

@steveedwards6753 6 ай бұрын

I have run lots of crown but never saw a crown fence. I love it! Last summer I was cutting aluminum cove with a lighting channel for up- lighting at a compound angle. Holding by hand (not a good idea), it came loose, hit my blade and I now have a wobble in the blade that I am now repairing. Had I known about a crown fence this would not have happened. 67 and still learning. Thank you!

@hardasnails64 Жыл бұрын

Been doing this for many years. Only i would use a slither of wood or a shim under the casing when i cut it. That gauge is cool.

@rodpotts2666 Жыл бұрын

Best tip I learned in a long time!Thanks for sharing your knowledge my man.

@Eagles25 Жыл бұрын

Wow! What a super hack this is! What a great tip and trick!!! Brilliant!

@ileanamorales1384 6 ай бұрын

Purchased - Uprimu Set Up Block Height Gauges Set,5 Piece Precision Aluminum Setup Bars for Router and Table Saw Accessories Woodworking Set Up, 1/8, 3/16, 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 Inches, All 4 Inches Long for 13.99. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Brilliant !!!