this the first time i am hearing of this, amazing!

Broke the game so hard they had to ban his technique, Absolute madlad.

This being forbidden for safety puts in perspective how insanely far we're going with extreme sports. For instance, this very same move is done on a daily basis on parkour/freerunning but over concrete and sometimes over deadly vertical and horizontal gaps

A friend in high school kind of did this, but a judo roll, at a school athletics day. He came second after a guy who actually competed in long jumping and track and field. However he fractured his clavicle landing on his shoulder.

It would be really spectacular to see longjump competitions with this technique

That jump technique was awesome.

This dude was legit OG, absolute legend.

From a physics standpoint, I always thought this made the most sense to maximize a long jumpers distance. They should start off by making this an exhibition category of track and field as a trial. Aside from some possible head gear the jump should be no more dangerous than pole vaulting.

As an avid Track & Field competitor of the 1970's, we experimented with a lot of 'technical and physiological' improvements. I was a pole vaulter who benefited from the advent of the fiberglass pole and as a high jumper we favored the relatively 'new' Fosbury flop. The forward flip long jump was unusual but not outlawed at the time. We experimented with these fairly unique techniques of human form including the Oldfield spin in the shot put. To us, the long jump forward flip rotation was no different than the backwards leap in the high jump. Yes, officials would ban some of these techniques during competition, but to the athletes, these 'bans' made little sense because you've no individual advantage, as you're relying on raw ability not equipment. (Pole vault the exception) As a nationally ranked decathlon competitor I actively participated in many of these forms and techniques and I can honestly say - the 'flip' long jump made the most impact improving many of our best efforts by almost 2 feet. Considering a good H.S. long jump at the time to be 24 feet, exceling another 2 feet to over 26 feet was national top ranking. The inconsistent banning of techniques in Track & Field shares no proclivity to physical reasoning.

I'm old enough to remember back in the 70s when some guys were experimenting with this, and the physics behind it made immediate sense to me. I always wondered why it didn't become a more popular technique... never realized it was actually banned.

In high school, I was using my own "Cannon ball" method. To prevent my legs from touching the ground by reflexive extension, I just tucked them in and held on til the last second. Was it the safest method? No, but I gained about an extra foot or so which is several medal positions.

Thanks for the footage of this mythical LJ technique. I heard about and saw films of the backflip high jumping technique in the 60s but never saw any footage of the LJ flip technique. Legalizing the technique would make the event far more exciting visually for the spectators. Thanks again.

Gee, what an interesting guy Delamere is! He was a MP here in NZ, had no idea he was an athlete!

I knew a parkour athlete who did long front flips, I never measured them. My brother was a solid long jumper and he couldn’t get close to the distance this guy was flipping.

The ban should be rescinded! That's an awesome technique and deserves to be made legitimate again!

They do this all the time in parkour. It actually looks more natural to me. Bring it back!

this does seem more natural and organic. i always feel stressed out watching long jump when they touch the sand anywhere behind where their feet land, but it seems inevitable. it looks like if you time that flip perfectly you could just have enough momentum to fall forward, which would be highly satisfying to watch at least

Seriously though despite following athletics for nearly 40 years I didnt know this!

i used to wonder when i was a kid if this was possible, this is the first video i have seen, thanks

Great post! I had no idea about this time in the history of athletics.

I have always thought to do the long jump that way 😂Never know it was actually done b4.

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Damn. That's quite a thing. I love this channel. Straight to point and educative.

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Here in South Africa in the 80s we had a guy who did somersaults, flip flops when high jumping. Like a gymnast. This technique was banned, and I unfortunately cannot remember how high he jumped. Roy b, Cape Town. South Africa.

This video has answered one of the questions I had always thought about... Now I know!

Amazing. Bring it back

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Thanks for this video. I was always wondering why the professionals don’t use other technics to beat the world records. For example you can do handspring as run-up to jump higher than the current world record.

Incredible!

It makes sense how these gymnasts and even parkour runners flip with such ease.

It must be made legal. It's natural forces that are being used in the jump. It's the sheer ability of the athlete in motion. How can this be illegal?

I am not shocked!!! 15 years ago, in the army( military service,compulsory) ,a villager boy always jumped 5,5meters with this technic , also carrying G3A4 Rifle( not athlete, but very strong). Our commander always grumbled that boy was not human.

This is fascinating.

Wonderful...looks like some Ninja Technique 🥷

When Dick Fosbury came up with the "Fosbury Flop it was not made illegal. He was considered a genius. It changed the High Jump forever and is still the technique used by just about everyone today. It's funny how one innovation is accepted and praised, yet another innovation is banned. The goal is to Looooonnnggg Jump, there should be no limitation on the style used by a competitor.

I don't know if anybody remembers this, but back in 82 or 83, Carl Lewis jumped over 30' and it was ruled a foul even though he had not left a mark on the plasticine. It happened.

Innovative Kiwi. 👏🙂

Mind blowing 😎‼️

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I was doing long jump competitions in high schoo (mostly in 1990), and the longest I jumped was 6.15m. I went to a regional competition and finished fifth, but there were really just 5cm between first and fourth position. This backflip jump video is amazing!

He is really rolling with that jump, damn what a man.

he outsmarts the system !

Now here is a long jump that won't break your body if you perform it on a hard surface. As someone who trains Parkour, I approve of this landing. Beautifully done. 1:04

It’s not the athletes foot being stationary on the board that causes the forward rotation, their feet are stationary on the ground every time they take a stride, just like everyone else. It’s the fact that you need to get your weight ahead of your foot to allow you to push your weight forwards as well as up to get maximum distance that does it.

Imagine if gymnastic commissions were like, "Whoa whoa whoa! Front flips are *WAY* too dangerous. We gotta band those." 🤪

Damn, those crazy Kiwis!!!!

I think the flipping long jump is banned for the same reason that two footed takeoffs (which can be either back or front flips) are banned in the high jump -- it just "doesn't look right". Almost surprised the Fosbury Flop didn't get banned for the same reason! I think it's particularly silly to ban front flip high jumps, since that doesn't even involve any handsprings, just a straightforward run up to the bar like the regular styles. I seem to remember hearing (from gymnasts) that there were tumblers who could clear 10 feet with a back flip, but I don't know if that's actually true.

Bring it back. It looks natural and as risky as the other techniques where you can risk your Achilles tendon.

In the late forties or early fifties, a gymnast challenged the high jump world record by downing a run to round off and two legged takeoff. His flip over the bar was well over 6’6” at that time. It was banned and a single leg takeoff was required. He later did another attempt with the same approach but used a single leg, again flipping over the bar. The rule was then change to only a run up and no flipping action. In the late sixties, the “Fosbury Flop” was invented, and the western roll was extinguished within five years.

I experimented with this technique in the mid-to-late 70s. At the time, I was unaware someone had already tried it. I was actually a pole vaulter but the technique intriqued me. I remember the first "flip" was a bit unnerving but it was pretty easy to get the hang of. I never thought it was particularly dangerous to be honest. In fact, I thought the pole vault was way more dangerous.

If you have a high possibility of landing on your neck with the Fosbury Flop in the high jump, they can easily allow the forward flip in the long jump even if it is ostentatious.

There was a guy here who did a similar thing for highjump but they banned it after he went so high he couldn't get back down and they had to send a blimp up to get him

Very cool

A guy in high school used to tuck his knees up to his chest, wrap his arms around them and just cannonball his way through the air. He wasn’t too bothered about how he landed.

can you do a video on noah lyles american record?

Wth this makes a lot of sense and it’s making me angry to find out it’s not allowed…how is this not just a human trying to jump as far as possible

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It’s no more dangerous than what gymnasts do every day. You should get extra points for twists.

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I always wondered why they never did this at the Olympiad. I came up with this idea as a kid.

that's pretty awesome

Technically, in the long, high, and triple jumps all you have to do is take off on 1 foot. Had a kid at my high school do this and jumped 22'4"!.....he was a gymnast a d he pole vaulted; he was quite an athlete. They banned the technique for "safety" reasons!! Yeah!!

On the one hand it looks so cool but on the other hand it really seems dangerous. Maybe one could think of jumping on a mattress, like in highjump.

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Can you do a video about the 1000 m WR? There are not many videos about it, it's a crazy record with incredibile splits

Yep. We had a high school athlete jumping about 22 ft. He started somersaults and instantly added 2 feet. It was allowed in the late 70s. But he also landed wrong once and almost broke his back, so the coach made him stop. Unless you are running from a tiger and you need to jump a wide river that has hippos in it, it's not worth the risk just for pride. Pride goes before a fall.

I do agree that it can be dangerous because you have to think every long jumper is going to want to do it. I'd say absolutely no athlete attempts or coaching of it until you are in high-school and even then, maybe only the ones that make the team can be taught and be allowed to use it. It's like the karate death punch of field events

I saw a documentary on Parkhurst and those guys have experimented with all types of techniques to jump long distances and have found that the tuck/roll gets you the furthest distance.

Crazy!

a lot of the rules in athletics were changed because of health and safety and this was just one of them just like moving away from metal spikes in running shoes or altering the balance of the javelin so it didnt travel outside of the designated area etc as with most decisions there will always be a few that cry foul but its done for the greater good

Track of field would of been alot more exciting

What a legend

Physics teacher and former NCAA long jump coach here. Your forward rotation and landing spot are both predetermined once your take off foot leaves the ground. It's basic projectile motion and you are essentially a cannonball. The purpose of the flight technique is to land in a way that doesn't take away from this predetermined landing spot, making sure your feet and hips land far enough out and both equidistant from the board. Any forward rotation is determined by the distance of the penultimate step which sets up the take off angle. Fron there it's just about maximizing your trajectory.

As a former 23’/7m jumper as a junior there is zero chance a ‘proper’ jumper would agree with this, they achieve their 8.75+ jumps by being great sprinters that can transition speed into a jump…and at that speed you are never going to be able to do anything other than a hang with a leg technique for maintaining form for the leg extension at the landing. It might however give slower athletes a chance to break 8m.

all it takes is to misstime your takeoff and then you're paralyzed

Aotearoa, a warrior will do what is needed to be victorious! I wished he did a Haka before competition! IMUA! Aloha from Hawaii MK!

This video gonna hit million views

Wow. I think i know this person. His brother lives 2 mins walk from my house. I never knew this. Respect Thanks

I like it.

Nice!!!

A street performer did the summersalt jump over ten of us standing side by side. And landed on his feet. At least 24ft. This would be cool to see!

And millions more would watch it!

a lot more tame than the spinning javelin throw!

I guess the difference with the Fosbury Flop in high jumping is that when doing that you always land on a very thick crashmat, not in a sandpit.

Ninja style!

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Jump, jump how you like, just jump, no matter how, it's still you doing the jump. They should make it tradition.

30年以上前、私が大学の体育学部生だった頃、大学の図書館に回転跳びを解説した陸上競技の古い研究書がありました。おそらく回転跳びが禁止される前に出版されたものだと思います。 More than 30 years ago, when I was a student of physical education at a university, there was an old research book on track and field in the university library that explained the rotational jump, probably published before the rotational jump was banned.

It would just be so easy to make the somersault long jump a new event, like the triple jump. That way nobody has to risk the danger of landing on their head if they don’t want to. The rest can just train like the gymnasts do and practice flipping into a foam pit until they are comfortable. The whole point of the long jump is to see who goes the farthest. It’s time we let them actually go as far as possible.

Dope

This is like if high jump banned the western roll, the straddle and the Fosbury flop. They would still be doing the scissors.

Banning it was ridiculous. It's like banning the Fosbury flop in the high jump.

It looks so much more graceful.

Create a landing zone of soft and deep styrofoam pellets (or whatever), use electronics to determine the jump distance, allow the forward flip, and the long jump will be a feature of the Olympics.

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He changed people's mind set about long jump