The Most Interesting Engine In The World 😍 Citroen 2CV / How does it work in 3D?

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Repairman22

Repairman22

10 ай бұрын

In this video we analyze the mythical boxer engine of the Citroen 2CV and we discover why it is so good. Its manufacture lasted more than 40 years for the reason that we will watch today.
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@ericbouv4070
@ericbouv4070 9 ай бұрын
I own a 2CV Special, model 1986. Works like a clock, goes everywhere. Simple, «rustique», 6 liters/100km, easy to maintain, but be careful with the rust. Not only the engine, but everything is simple and basic on this car. The dashboard is so simple! It is my only car, so it drives almost every day, and every year I make a quite long trip to visit friends all around France. Hope to keep it for a long time.
@stevenlagoe7808
@stevenlagoe7808 7 ай бұрын
I know one shouldn't be envious, but... I ENVY YOU!! 😁👍
@travelbugse2829
@travelbugse2829 6 ай бұрын
Felicitations! My dream would be to own a Mahari, but keep it on a Mediterranean island for holiday visits. They are so over-priced, however (I saw one for sale in the Balearics just before the pandemic, and the owner wanted e10,000). The Two Horses was an amazing car - the French just didn't think like anyone else in those days.
@cayankeelord3730
@cayankeelord3730 6 ай бұрын
@@travelbugse2829 "the French just didn't think like anyone else in those days." An understatement. I visited a small regional airport that has a museum in Chino, California and saw a French motorcycle around the WW1 era. The front wheel has a small displacement radial engine in place of where the center hub and spokes should be. The tire rim is fastened directly to the cylinder heads with spacers. the crankshaft is bolted to the front forks and does not rotate, the rest of the engine does! The carburetor is fastened to one side of the crank and somehow two-stroke mix is delivered to the cylinders. The fuel tank is mounted to the handlebars. The most unique bike I've ever seen.
@travelbugse2829
@travelbugse2829 6 ай бұрын
@@cayankeelord3730 Good grief! But I suppose the Gnome Rotary did the same thing on aircraft, so the French engineers smoked a Gitane and said: "Alors, zat will go well on a moto - miniscule!"
@akra8925
@akra8925 4 ай бұрын
@@cayankeelord3730 en france on a pas d'argent mais on a des idées 😂
@MrLekatt
@MrLekatt 10 ай бұрын
I've had a -59 B425 and a -79 2CV6, 605cc. Both absolutely lovely everyday cars. On twisty gravel roads I could keep many times more powerful cars behind me. The body roll wasn't a problem and all 4 wheels stayed on the ground at all times. The time I lost on the 'straights' I easily gained through the tight bends. Very annoying to some... They never broke down and I used them as my every day cars, all year round...even below -25C°, completely closed air intake and plastic foam sheets in the roof lined with corduroy fabric. There are so many clever solutions incorporated in this technically advanced car, that even formula one tech people know of them and refer to the 2CV regarding certain aspects. The whole story would take to long to tell here. Thank you for bringing the 2CV back into the limelight where it belongs!
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 9 ай бұрын
>2CV >Body roll wasnt a problem Do you just like, lean left and right as you walk or what lol
@MrLekatt
@MrLekatt 9 ай бұрын
@@dragonbutt 😄 you could be right, but I'm not a sailor.. though I know how to handle a boat. No, seriously, the front end geometry does actually benefit from a bit of body roll. That's why. Body roll can definitely be a problem if it's not taken into consideration when designing a car. Citroën did though. Cheers 😉
@hughleocullen9497
@hughleocullen9497 9 ай бұрын
One of the most enjoyable cars I ever had, the most comfortable seats ever. This vehicle needs to be brought back, cheap and economical to run, I wish I had one today. I really miss my 2cv.
@MrLekatt
@MrLekatt 9 ай бұрын
@@hughleocullen9497 Me too. Miss my B425 most... smooth as silk at high rpm's 🥰
@Elkarlo77
@Elkarlo77 9 ай бұрын
@@hughleocullen9497 There are some new Mini-Cars out there with Electric Drive. The 2CV could be builded as one, as it don't have to exceed 450kg without Batteries. We are just seeing the Isetta (Bubble Car) returning maybe the good old 2CV as well. Safety is a big concern for those cars and seeing old 2CV in modern Car Crashes, it is not something you want to be in. The 2CV has a sound safety concept but a 500kg car hit by an 1.600kg-2200kg car you know who is losing.
@divingfe
@divingfe 9 ай бұрын
When I had the good fortune to live in Iran in the 70's I had one- licensed to be built in Iran- the Dyane. It was WELL used, and for the high altitude and the heat in the summer- well, it was hardly a tire-burner. I absolutely loved it. Handled so well on the streets and very reliable. I loved the gearshift coming out of the dash, the adjustable headlights, the smooth ride, and the great suspension. One winters day, on the way up to the mountains NE of Tehran, with 3 wonderful skiing companions in the car, going uphill- we chanced upon a VEERY SLOW heavily loaded truck, emitting huge clouds of heavy, thick, black smoke. Even this wonderful loaded Dyane 2CV, had enough HP to pass the truck. Unfortunately, after we passed the truck, we could smell lots of smoke still. I then realized that, coincidentally, new smoke was coming from under the hood of the Dyane.We pulled over and evacuated the car and I raised the hood and found that every inch of all the wiring in the vehicle was burnt to a crisp- all the insulation melted off and only bare copper strands visible. What to do?? I disconnected everything, and then ran one wire (bare,twisted strands) from the battery to the ignition. turned the car around rolled it downhill and drove back to Tehran without further incident. A day or so later I purchased a complete new wring harness, and installed it in about an hour. Car ran perfectly from then on, of course. I really regretted leaving Iran, and that wonderful car. I wish I had one now for commuting, here in northern Nevada- USA. Great memories from this video and great engine explanations, though I watched it with subtitles ON, and the audio OFF. Thanks so much.
@alitn588
@alitn588 6 ай бұрын
Same here Had lots of fun with this car in Iran when I was young. So many friends made a fun of the car but it was a fun car...!! 😊
@user-ut9ln4vd5m
@user-ut9ln4vd5m 21 күн бұрын
The wiring must have been practically fun. "Modern" cars seem to have hundreds or wires at least, one page says a Bentley Bentayga has 110 pounds of wiring harness, while a bare muscle car's harness is only 10 pounds
@Bamsebrakar2011
@Bamsebrakar2011 9 ай бұрын
Fantastically balanced. It’s the only engine I’ve driven continuously at max rpm for several hours on the Autobahn. Without damage.
@florkgagga
@florkgagga 8 ай бұрын
All the while it sounded so dry, right? We had the R4, in the 2cv i was a passenger a few times. Full rpm sounded funny, but equally funny or strange is that other cars were not supposed to be driven that way, while the 2cv could take it.
@dungareesareforfools
@dungareesareforfools 9 ай бұрын
It’s basically a little aircraft engine!
@roelsiebrand7181
@roelsiebrand7181 9 ай бұрын
When they had it on the test bank in 1946-ish they ran it for a 100 hours continuously without a hiccup. I had two 2CV's and the engine was never the problem.
@JonDingle
@JonDingle 8 ай бұрын
So how many other engines have you driven then?
@Bamsebrakar2011
@Bamsebrakar2011 8 ай бұрын
@@JonDingle Many. My point is that this little aircooled opposed twin engine is a real gem…
@andredescheemaecker5865
@andredescheemaecker5865 10 ай бұрын
I remember that when I was young (in the sixties), 60 to 70 % of my generation owned or had owned a 2CV here in Belgium. They were cheap and easy to maintain. We where all mechanics in those days, or so we thought we were😄.
@Nickos1b
@Nickos1b 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't a Citroen factory in Belgium making 2CVs? I seem to recall in my country the guys that were 2CV owners mentioning something like it.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 9 ай бұрын
.."We where all mechanics in those days, or so we thought we were" You make it sound like a bad thing in 2023?
@ottopartz1
@ottopartz1 9 ай бұрын
With so few parts to have go wrong, you could easily be a mechanic in those days.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 9 ай бұрын
@@ottopartz1 ...cause You're NOT allowed - these days?!?
@davebaker9128
@davebaker9128 9 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, my '52 2cv came from Belgium in 1968 or 69
@alzaidi7739
@alzaidi7739 10 ай бұрын
"That thing gotta a HEMI?"
@volante8657
@volante8657 10 ай бұрын
was thinking the same thing😂
@marymarlow5598
@marymarlow5598 10 ай бұрын
The Citron Hemi would have been a better marketing plan, than 3CV. It definitely was better designed for rough roads, and beat the socks off the bug in that department. I wonder how it compares to a DKW 3 cylinder.
@SuperErikRoss
@SuperErikRoss 10 ай бұрын
Yup all two cylinders !!!!! 😀
@cdevidal
@cdevidal 9 ай бұрын
Sweet
@rishz7857
@rishz7857 9 ай бұрын
Has the "hemispheric" head configuration. Sounds like a "hemi".
@bvista58
@bvista58 9 ай бұрын
2CV was my first car in the late 70's and a Diane for harvesting spare parts. I was able to do most repairs myself, unlike with todays's cars, I wouldn't even touch them. Still the best car and most fun I ever had!
@skydive1424
@skydive1424 9 ай бұрын
I drove the 2cv6, liked the dash mounted hockeystick shift lever. The red hot version. The main competitor was not the beetle but the Renault 4. Which had a rear mounted engine initially. However, Renault redesigned it with a front mounted engine. If you were really quiet, you could hear them rust. But mechanically absolutely indestructible and simple to repair and extremely fuel efficient. About as fuel efficient as todays low end models but half the weight, half the parts, half the price and super easy to repair and maintain
@darwinskeeper421
@darwinskeeper421 9 ай бұрын
I believe the rear engined car was the Renault 4CV. The Renault 4 was a later front drive car designed to compete with the 2CV.
@martinsaunders7925
@martinsaunders7925 9 ай бұрын
The rear engine version was the dauphin. I had the front engine version,the 4,as a van. The camshaft was driven by a composite gear which was up against the firewall and required removal of the engine. Guess how I know that.
@skydive1424
@skydive1424 9 ай бұрын
@@martinsaunders7925 my grandfather had both the rear engined Renault 4 and the Dauphine. The Dauphine had a larger engine and was larger overall. Both great cars. Renault grew the model further into the Renault 8 and later the model 10, after which they abandoned rear engined models altogether. Every iteration the engine displacement grew a bit. Fun fact; they produced a Gordini version of the 8 for a while. That was a pretty cool car, based on the rally car Gordini prepped.
@martinsaunders7925
@martinsaunders7925 9 ай бұрын
@@skydive1424 French engineering is idiosyncratic and usually excellent. The first front wheel drive car was a Citroën in 1934? Of course it had suicide doors.
@zaneenaz4962
@zaneenaz4962 9 ай бұрын
......back in the days were less meant more.
@garybulwinkle82
@garybulwinkle82 10 ай бұрын
My dad won a 2CV back in 1954 in a contest with Gulf Oil. His jingle was, "fill up with Gulf and you will see, no tailpipe smog or exhaust debris". The theme was emissions. I may have never been if not for that car; he sold it, and used the money to marry mom and honeymoon in Niagara Falls!
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 9 ай бұрын
Wonderful story!!!!
@maddhatter3564
@maddhatter3564 9 ай бұрын
Well at least something good came from at least one of these miscarrages of automotive justice
@bobanppvc
@bobanppvc 9 ай бұрын
Your dad was a simp
@qibble455
@qibble455 9 ай бұрын
Comment of the week! Congrats
@foximacentauri7891
@foximacentauri7891 9 ай бұрын
@@maddhatter3564I would always prefer this car over the monstrosities called SUVs we have today.
@thehills9865
@thehills9865 10 ай бұрын
My family has been the proud owner of a ‘75 Citroën Méhari in Montana Green and it’s my Dad’s pride and joy. We take it out to classic car meets every month. Most people confuse it for a mini moke, so I’m glad to see the Méhari got a shoutout! Great video 👍
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 10 ай бұрын
I know very well the Mehari that belonged to a friend of mine early seventies and we throughly enjoyed in summertime...
@migliaracer1
@migliaracer1 9 ай бұрын
Confused with a Moke? I think not!
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 9 ай бұрын
@migliaracer1 are you referring to me? I know quite well both vehicles but in truth I travelled much less on the Moke
@Aengus42
@Aengus42 9 ай бұрын
​@@migliaracer1This video was the 1st time I've seen that odd, boxy Citroën Méhari ( Méhari = "fast camel") and I thought Mini Moke!
@colonelfustercluck486
@colonelfustercluck486 5 ай бұрын
a Moke? Surely not, OMG.....
@JacquesPPage
@JacquesPPage 9 ай бұрын
I travelled and drove a 2CV back in 1974 in Spain. It was quite an experience! This car is amazing! Very slow but unstoppable. Very roomy and surprisingly comfortable except for the noisy cabin. It was also an convertible...added bonus.
@thomasalbrecht5914
@thomasalbrecht5914 9 ай бұрын
The 2CV engine was designed by Walter Becchia, an Italian engineer who had been at Fiat’s race engine design department before WW1. This design bureau was at the very forefront of combustion engine engineering and would see many of its members develop famous engines for a whole range of brands. In its latter stages the engine would rev above and beyond 7,000 rpm, and last forever. Try that with a Beetle engine...
@nicholasagnew2792
@nicholasagnew2792 9 ай бұрын
A beetle engine can easily make power over 7,000rpm. The aftermarket for VW performance parts has been the most vast one on the planet for over 50 years.
@Kimoto504
@Kimoto504 9 ай бұрын
@@nicholasagnew2792 I think he means stock (unmodified, from the factory) engines. Anything can be modified to do crazy things.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 9 ай бұрын
@@Kimoto504 I was about to say that
@petenikolic5244
@petenikolic5244 9 ай бұрын
the vw is still seriously inferior like most German engineering would not give a thank you for it speaking as someone that owned a garage it was always German scrap that gave all the big problems .
@mottthehoople693
@mottthehoople693 6 ай бұрын
@@nicholasagnew2792 not revving at the redline forever..
@Sohave
@Sohave 10 ай бұрын
I own a Citroen 2CV6 one of the last ones build in Portugal. I have had several old cars from the 80's and 90's all leaking and at some points leaving me stranded, with one exception the 2CV. despite the fact that I drove it as my daily for some 4 years plus the remaining 5 years as a slightly more spoiled summer car. its engine is so dry that I leave a carpet underneath it in the garage just to boast of this property. Despite being far from today's standards of streamlined design It is also very economical, having a fuel mileage comparable to modern cars. I adore the 2 cylinder air cooled engine.
@eloimumford5247
@eloimumford5247 10 ай бұрын
There was a contest in France that challenge drivers to roll over the car in any sharp curve. This was told by my girlfriend at the time , she was driving a 2 chevaux with the gage gas broken , so from time time we were checking the level with a wood stick ...great times of my youth in France , Bretagne , marvelous people.
@robertyaspo2496
@robertyaspo2496 10 ай бұрын
I remember in the early 1950's Citroen's challenge for 1 million francs to turn the car (the 2CV) over on a flat surface; with ice or oil at any speed. My school teacher had one with a dip-stick for gas, no gas gauge inside...
@hugueslecorre4893
@hugueslecorre4893 9 ай бұрын
The one who could overturn did it by driving backwards.
@johnwinters4201
@johnwinters4201 9 ай бұрын
Broken fuel gauge or just didn't have one? Dipping the tank was the standard way of checking fuel level on early 2CVs.
@davebaker9128
@davebaker9128 9 ай бұрын
My '52 has a dipstick in the fuel tank, factory equipment
@portedbikes
@portedbikes 9 ай бұрын
Mhm, i heard that story but was the Citroen 11 Ligero in my version. But yes they will not roll over, I drove a few of them and they are still being used in South America, indestructible cars.
@felixniederhauser7799
@felixniederhauser7799 8 ай бұрын
In the late 70's I was seconded to Agadir, Morocco to be the acting Station Manager for the Airline I worked at that time. I only had to handle one flight per week, hence a lot of free time. I rented a 2CV and explored the surroundings and even went to Marakesh on a desert road. A very reliable car, no matter if in the desert or on paved roads. I simply loved it.
@jouhannaudjeanfrancois891
@jouhannaudjeanfrancois891 6 ай бұрын
You can drive anything, fancy or not, but NOTHING come close to the unforgettable 2CV experience. Slow yet scary, way too soft yet incredibly good in curves. Love it dearly!
@catmate8358
@catmate8358 10 ай бұрын
If I could buy one new, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It was an awesome little car with a lot of smart engineering.
@HolgerKuhrts
@HolgerKuhrts 10 ай бұрын
Well, not the complete car, but the chassis and body parts you can. They are surplus parts of the production in Spain and Portugal.
@stevenboelke6661
@stevenboelke6661 10 ай бұрын
​@@HolgerKuhrtsBetter to have a modern engine anyway. It would be a great car to use a motorcycle engine in, due to its light weight.
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo 9 ай бұрын
There is a british company that makes them new but with an electric motor. It's pretty much the same otherwise, with all its quirks. The price is quite high though, as they are made on command.
@richardsmith579
@richardsmith579 10 ай бұрын
We had two 602 Dyanes, with centrifugal transmissions, and a 2CV, also 602. Utterly brilliant cars that never, ever, went wrong. In some ways they were the pinnacle of car engineering. Thanks for the vid.
@Bamsebrakar2011
@Bamsebrakar2011 9 ай бұрын
I agree the Dyane was a considerable improvement on the 2CV. I had a 1981 model years ago.
@sfertonoc
@sfertonoc 9 ай бұрын
Sad that back then these engineering wonders were looked on with some contempt. Nowadays Chinese crap Maxus cars still cannot hold a candle to it.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 9 ай бұрын
What a golden time for automotive design. The owner’s needs were the prime directive. No ego cars, these. The 2CV’s suspension remains unique, designed for the reality of driving at the time where it was sold and it really did the job like no other.
@Piltribus
@Piltribus 9 ай бұрын
yes, just to see what they did with the DS today
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 8 ай бұрын
>No ego cars, these. they were subconscious cars
@donnienicholson6062
@donnienicholson6062 25 күн бұрын
Hitch hiking in Germany to the Army base in Mannheim I rode in a 2CV for about 15 miles.The driver was getting everything the little car had to offer and the leaning in curves was amazing.Out of a couple million miles I've ridden or driven in 70 years I've never forgotten that experience.Quite the workhorse was the Citroen.
@stevesteve201
@stevesteve201 10 ай бұрын
I have restored beetles and recently restored a 2CV they are completely different. But both have simple engineering that makes them endearing and fun.
@barrypike4688
@barrypike4688 10 ай бұрын
Wife's grandad restores these, brilliant cars, independent suspension on all corners, inboard brakes has some mad body roll but handles bumps like a pro
@mro9466
@mro9466 9 ай бұрын
So far, i've never seen someone go into so much details, explaining things in a clear manner. This channel has a great future !
@johne7100
@johne7100 9 ай бұрын
We bought a used 1968 Dyane 6 with the bigger engine when we first came to France, and I did a lot of maintenance on it myself. The repair manual said (roughly) "to adjust the rocker arms it is not entirely necessary to remove the mudguards, but it helps". They were right; however to do this you had to disconnect the headlamp adjustment cable and remove 16 screws each side. To adjust the points you had to take off the front bumper and the fan. Wondrous. We took ours over the Cockbridge-Tomintoul road in Scotland and over the Alps in the Haute Savoie. Another time we rolled up the roof and got all the wood to make a double bed into it, along with the mattress. It finally died in 1976 when a mechanic at the dealership in Edinburgh stripped a clutch mounting bolt and didn't tell us. Still, it took us back to our home near Paris before the engine lost all its oil and we sold it to a scrap-merchant for 400 frs, which we spent that evening on a fitting wake. Wonderful car.
@JimiHendrix998
@JimiHendrix998 10 ай бұрын
Bless you for this fine article. The 2CV and Beetle are regarded by modern youngsters as weak and feeble or simply a fashion statement. I once rode a BSA Bantam from Norwich to Preston via Leeds in 1976 with a male pillion and luggage through a rainstorm. It never missed a beat. The most humble of our creations are often the most reliable. Just don't expect them to be "cafe racers".
@naradaian
@naradaian 9 ай бұрын
Now that bantam tale is,impressive….
@robertjames6640
@robertjames6640 9 ай бұрын
The BSA Bantam was the only stinkpot I ever owned. I preferred the Goldie’s I owned later. The Bantam was almost unbreakable: my pal ended up with it and “converted” it to trials iron. I did ride it from Oxford to Bristol several times during my college days.
@naradaian
@naradaian 8 ай бұрын
@@robertjames6640 I had a 1947 hard tail e army job and yes it was unbreakable always started; old fuel or not it max speed 35mph
@pollywollydo
@pollywollydo 10 ай бұрын
I understand that this engine was originally designed ( pre war- 1930s ) as a generator engine and so was intended to run many hours @ relatively low power. Interestingly a friends father who was a dealer in the sixties told me they never had engine trouble as long as it was worked hard, it was the little old ladies who usually had trouble as they didn’t “ blow them out 🤭”
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 10 ай бұрын
You go read up what causes carbon buildup and you'll understand how your friends father was right. This still applies to modern fuel injection vehicles
@pollywollydo
@pollywollydo 10 ай бұрын
@@OffGridInvestor yes I recon direct petrol injection is just an answer to a non existent problem- created by those genius non engineers @EUSSR 🤯
@HotWheelsBurban
@HotWheelsBurban 10 ай бұрын
Every gasoline powered car or truck runs better when "the cobwebs get blown out" from time to time.
@pollywollydo
@pollywollydo 9 ай бұрын
@@HotWheelsBurban agreed but decoking engines seems to have become a cottage industry again having largely died out by the end of the fifties. Back. In the thirties it was recommended every approx 5K miles
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 9 ай бұрын
no, the engine was designed after WW2, the early engine from the 1939 2cv (TPV) was liquid cooled and still absolutly not derived from a generator, but designed to be able to run without damage permanently at maximum power . The first prototype of TPV was fitted in 1937 , for tests with a BMW 500cc flathead flat twin engine, this explain more or less the later choice for a flat twin, but even the early water cooled engine was OHV and totaly different from the BMW engine...
@vilisnimojanum8244
@vilisnimojanum8244 9 ай бұрын
My first car was a 2CV. Had a lot of fun with it, but going uphill (we have lots of hills in our area) was ridiculous. In winter, it went through the highest snow with ease.
@johnmcmillan7358
@johnmcmillan7358 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the awesome 3-D, animated illustrations. It is helpful to see the internal parts working. I've owned a '74 2CV for the past 23 years and drive it almost daily during the summer. It loves our local round-a-bouts and puts smiles on just about everyone it meets. Parts are no problem what with several sources along the US west coast. Love the car. Hills are a challenge but most drivers behind you will be patient while you drive in low gear. We all need to slow down a bit anyway!
@famousutopias
@famousutopias 10 ай бұрын
Cam is driven by a spring loaded split chevron gear, so as it wears over time the cam timing never changes. Also notice no connecting rod bolts. The con rods are slipped onto the crank at the factory by cooling the crank in liquid nitrogen and heating the con rods. Renewing the engine, you’d purchase a piston/con rod/crank set. All new in minutes!
@alro2434
@alro2434 9 ай бұрын
No need to heat the rods!
@hg2.
@hg2. 4 ай бұрын
The 2CV is to cars what BREAD is food -- it is the baseline. Let's get it back into production and make it one of the world's transportation options.
@Gearz-365
@Gearz-365 10 ай бұрын
I liked the 2CV for its unique design and for its suspension setup. I know some people don't like it, but it's like a type of car you either love or hate. Since I see it being a lot like the Beetle, I called it "France's Beetle" since they both have a similar shape and the design didn't change a whole lot for a long time
@andrewgardner9615
@andrewgardner9615 10 ай бұрын
Or a tin snail
@arekb5951
@arekb5951 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact, the 2CV prototypes were made before the WWII, the car was supposed to be presented in October 1939 at the Paris Motor Show, but after Germany invaded Poland the Paris motor Show was cancelled and the 250 car pilot run and prototypes were either destroyed or hidden in fear of Germany stealing the project and using it against France. There are only 5 existing examples of pre-war 2CVs that we know of. The similar exterior design of the 2CV and the Beetle is completely coincidental as they were both designed in secret during the same time period.
@kriskross63
@kriskross63 10 ай бұрын
@@arekb5951 The same applies for the beetle, which was designed and first prototypes produced by Mercedes (with engineer Ferdinand Porsche working there, then..) Unfortunately, wikipedia has obviously censored all pages about this car. (I remember very well, that a few years ago, there has been an extremely nice summary with several pictures of Mercedes beetle prototypes/predecessors. Everything wiped away, obviously. Maybe, if you look for "130, 150, 150 V und 170 H (W 23, W 30, W 130, W 28), 1934 - 1939", you´ll find a German webpage, mentioning a W28, which is close to the first 30 prototypes produced at the Mercedes factory in Sindelfingen (under the lead of Porsche) which were the predecessors of the later KdF-Wagen, after the war renamed to Volkswagen. Unfortunately, no good pictures there.. and it seems impossible to find them with google..
@grolfe3210
@grolfe3210 10 ай бұрын
@@kriskross63 Unless your are in some country that censors the internet you will find lots of info on the pre-war beetle on wiki, mercedes website etc. It is debatable when a car begins. The beetle was not really created until the final production version. Early concepts are not the car, but the idea for the car.
@kriskross63
@kriskross63 10 ай бұрын
@@grolfe3210 You are possibly right: The last time, I easily found pages with lots of fotos of beetle prototypes, I looked for them from Germany. (I remember a variant, more or less identical to the beetle, except the „nose“, which contained a typical Mercedes grill on front, it was a Wdd with a 2-digit nr, I thought W40 or W30, but Couldn’t find it anymore now. This time, I googled it from Switzerland…
@Albisriede
@Albisriede 9 ай бұрын
Great report on a great little car. Actually drove a friend's 2CV once. Something that's possibly not widely know in the U.S. is what the CV part of the description means. it means chevaux = horses. People typically knew them as deux chevaux (two horses) but in the 'back then' tax system chevaux meant horsepower in the mechanical field. But even that is confusing. In countries like France, Switzerland etc. automobiles are or at least used to be, taxed according to engine size, not actual horsepowers. The Citroën Deux Chevaux thus was one of the least expensive vehicles to insure or to be taxed. Post War Europe was much more frugal back then compared to now. So, my dad way back in the 50s, owned a slightly more powerful Renault Dauphine, a small rear engine gizmo, and the first car I ever got to drive, illegally as I was then underage. Cheers ;- )
@johanaberg6528
@johanaberg6528 9 ай бұрын
My family had two in a row in the late 80's (light blue and a green one). I remember the queues it accumulated on the 100kmh roads, the view from the rear seat was great. Was too young to test drive it, but my mom struggled to find the reverse gear and we ended up in a barn door
@petemulhearn7787
@petemulhearn7787 10 ай бұрын
I've owned two of these quirky little cars and loved them. Really fun to drive, especially if you're not accustomed to 30 degrees of body roll in corners! 😂and so easy to repair. A bit of a death trap if you crash, but that applies to most cars of that era.
@SahnigReingeloetet
@SahnigReingeloetet 9 ай бұрын
The body roll in combination with the weak engine and… let‘s call it spartanic interior meant you felt like you‘re in a race car at all times 😂
@edonveil9887
@edonveil9887 9 ай бұрын
​@@SahnigReingeloetetbut exceptionally comfortable one.
@florkgagga
@florkgagga 9 ай бұрын
​@@SahnigReingeloetetnah, exaggerated. There is a hint of acceleration in 2nd or 3rd,like in the Renault 4, but never even a sligtest kick in the back like you would get from some small Fiats.
@SahnigReingeloetet
@SahnigReingeloetet 9 ай бұрын
@@florkgagga I meant that you basically floor it all the time, not that it‘s fast 😅 I distinctly remember the acceleration being so bad that you almost can‘t even feel it (when I was driving in a car that would lightly push you into the seat when you floor it, I was like „wow a sports car 😝“). The accelerator pedal is more like a suggestion to the engine to maybe go faster.
@Cuccos19
@Cuccos19 9 ай бұрын
One of the Hungarian car journalists said once: a more fancy Swiss chocolate is wrapped in heavier, sturdier tin foil than the 2CV's bodywork sheets.😅
@georgjrgensen8507
@georgjrgensen8507 10 ай бұрын
The first car that I bought was a 2CV, brand new in 1970. A 425 cc 18HP engine. This version had no belt-driven alternator, but a 6V DC dynamo on the crankshaft just behind the fan.
@gk9
@gk9 9 ай бұрын
In Greece there was a Greek-made Citroen Pony. Same engine and drivetrain but with a jeep-like chassis. Heavier than a 2CV, but could easily fit 10 kids for movie runs! That was with the 602cc engine. I learned how to drive on my dads Pony. It was very fun to drive, especially on dirt roads, thanks to the amazing suspension. It would be interesting to get a video on the gearbox of the 2CV, the weird gear arrangement (reverse and 1st were opposite of each other), why the 2nd gear was the strongest, and why you could go from 3rd to 4th 2 different ways (one was the normal way of going through neutral, and the second was moving to the right first through the location of what would've been a 5th gear if it existed). Thank you for bringing back memories!
@alansalter1836
@alansalter1836 9 ай бұрын
I couldn’t even work that out about gear changes let alone trying to drive it 😂😂👏
@almacdonald2506
@almacdonald2506 9 ай бұрын
Lived on a Canadian military base in NE France from 63-67, and saw the 2CV everywhere. Members of the military were not allowed to buy one, but I don’t know why. Supposedly fantastic suspension system, a point common in other Citroen models. I remember seeing one in Calgary many years ago.
@user-gdxt-7399
@user-gdxt-7399 10 ай бұрын
Not only my father had one, but I taught myself to drive with it. It was soooo easy and pleasant to drive. Unfortunately, it also died in my hands a few years later (busted crankshaft). It had been ticking for a long time, but dad was not interested in fixing it.
@davewebster6945
@davewebster6945 10 ай бұрын
😢
@640kareenough6
@640kareenough6 9 ай бұрын
You can buy fully restored engines for about 800€
@thedispenser8301
@thedispenser8301 10 ай бұрын
I love that little citroen
@kriskross63
@kriskross63 10 ай бұрын
Compared to a mini, Fiat 500 or 126, it was not so "little", actually. The interiour space was much cleverer used than in the Volkswagen beetle (4 vs 2 doors, 4 adults vs 2 adults and 2 children).
@deck614
@deck614 9 ай бұрын
One most unknown fun trick of the 2CV ( I discovered it in the 2CV of a student friend) is that you can drive hidden under the glass level. Just open the air vents (those above the dashbord) with the screwbutton. Then bend over to hide and drive looking through the events (it's not that safe for lateral checks, attention). Then, suddenly appear all together to look at the faces of passers-by. Garanteed laughs :D
@travelbugse2829
@travelbugse2829 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant!😆
@robertdemeny251
@robertdemeny251 9 ай бұрын
Many wonderful memories from my 2CV days. Simple to work on and joyful to drive.
@KF-bj3ce
@KF-bj3ce 10 ай бұрын
The Citroen 2 CV was the most enjoyable car to drive, it purred and made you feel you are on a carnival ride around bends. The suicide door where awesome.
@PlagueDoktor-
@PlagueDoktor- 4 ай бұрын
😅
@GilsonJr.Whitout.Numbers
@GilsonJr.Whitout.Numbers 10 ай бұрын
I am Brazilian. Then you already know about our love for the Beetle. My dad was in a cab with him for a loooong time. But I always found the 2CV very nice! I haven't had a chance to see one yet. Yet. 👍
@TheWilferch
@TheWilferch 9 ай бұрын
As a car enthusiast....this was very informative especially with the added animations.....both engines were simple and showed advanced thinking that were good for the times. Individually, it seems the 2CV had some advantageous design points.....shame there wasn't a 4 cyl version produced...but with the axial fan that may have been problematic as to cooling the extra 2 cylinders. Never knew about the 2-engine version.....thanks....
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 9 ай бұрын
Thats why VW had the cooling arrangement it did: They had to cool 4 cylinders and an axial fan would not have cooled the two rear cylinders. I have often toyed with idea of building a cut-down 2 cylinder version of the VW engine, which is what some small aircraft builders do! Would be interesting to compare such a motor to the Citroen engine.
@grafixbyjorj
@grafixbyjorj 9 ай бұрын
The air cooled flat four Citroen came with the introduction of the GS, similar hemi head but with overhead cams (and still with the axial fan at the front)
@emayteetee73
@emayteetee73 9 ай бұрын
There was at least one 4-cyl engined 2CV in existence in the past. This was during the production of the James Bond film in 1981 where a 1015 cc engine from a Citroën GS was transplanted into the 2CV. The reason was to make the chase sequence a little more exciting whilst still maintaining the familiar engine sound. So it was possible but never produced by Citroën. There have been other attempts to turbo charge the standard engine but, again, on an amateurish level only.
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs 9 ай бұрын
The French Panhard Dyna Z had a similar 2 cylinder boxer engine, but it made far more horsepower and ran quite well. They were larger and according to one man who I met at a car meet driving one, they, like other French cars, were a pleasure and comfortable to drive.
@kriskross63
@kriskross63 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this great presentation! Actually, the 2CV was not only designed for the French roads and landscape, but also for the French colonies as especially North Africa Algeria (desert, heat, sand), but also all other (former) french colonies. (Btw, also the famous Peugeot 504, too..) I had 2 2CVs, and I often think, that every driver should drive this car in the first 2 years after receiving the driver license, as you really learn, how a car works from A to Z, as everything is consequently designed "keep it simple"! To me, the design of the Citroen 2CV is much more brilliant than the VW beetle (4 doors, 4 seats for four adults, big trunk (vs almost no trunk in the beetle), much less noisier engine with same driving capabilites (110km/h max in both cases with advantages for the 2Cv as it is lighter and more comfortable), much less weight, the front wheel drive much more convenient and save than the risky RWD. Even in snow and winter conditions, you can start any 2CV with the provided jack using it as a starting hanfdle easily while all other cars including the beetle need jumper cables and an additional vehicle when the battery is too low. (I´ve experienced this myself in a unusually cold winter in Germany..) But, of course, the beetle just looks cuter, propably radiates more security, though its shape is more "feminine" the sound of the beetle´s boxer is much more "masculine".. and it seems, the beetle was much more reliable...
@clwomble
@clwomble 9 ай бұрын
But you couldn’t get a 4WD beetle. Go Citroën.
@kriskross63
@kriskross63 9 ай бұрын
@@clwomble Well, these few 4WD 2CVs were not really available on the public market, afaik And I think, there were indeed a few 4WD beetles, too (for military purposes, painted in dark green, with bigger tractor-like wheels)… of course, neither available on the free market
@wiegraf9009
@wiegraf9009 9 ай бұрын
The reliability of the Beetle is often overstated and confused with the ease of repairing it. There are fundamental design flaws in the Beetle that cause it to be less reliable than is often thought. These are often noted by people who actually owned and ran it.
@robertjames6640
@robertjames6640 9 ай бұрын
The 2CV was beautifully French with a certain romantic joie d’Vie. The Beetle was possibly designed by the guy who worked on the military Stahlhelm. My late grandfather, a WW1 veteran, referred to the Beetle as “Hun Cavalry” The 2CV was endearing, the Beetle just a car.
@paulorth2251
@paulorth2251 10 ай бұрын
I saw so many of these little vehicles while I was stationed in Germany, a very interesting automobile. Thanks for sharing this information. 😊
@KuRo88
@KuRo88 9 ай бұрын
My mom used to own several of these and some bugs.. I remember riding in the 2cv as a kid, I loved it. Especially over bumps because of the suspension. Also the sound it made was unique.. And we drove it pretty far (for european standards).. Like 600km road trips in a 20~ish hp car, most of the time behind trucks.. Fun times.. Back then they were cheap, that's why my mom had them. To think that all her old cars ended up in junkyards because of relatively minor stuff, people today would be furious
@michaelbarr8151
@michaelbarr8151 9 ай бұрын
Being born in France, I had 2 of those wonderful cars when I was young. They were extremely reliable, cheap to maintain and operate, and extremely fun to drive.
@ajaxa9
@ajaxa9 9 ай бұрын
I owned two of them here in New York. One a rest bucket van and the other a Mahari. Neither of them ever had any mechanical problems. The van finally broken in two after being vastly overloaded with lumber many times. Someone stole the Mahari and cut it up for junk.
@alansalter1836
@alansalter1836 9 ай бұрын
What a fantastic little car as an Englishman what used to amaze us you could spray and paint them in any colour you wanted and they always looked good. Solid and simple brilliant little car well done France 🇫🇷 👏👏
@HarborLockRoad
@HarborLockRoad 10 ай бұрын
The panhard dyna had a 2cylinder horizontally opposed engine too. But my heart will always belong to the nsu prinz 2 cylinder engine, ive never seen anything like that since. Both cylinders reciprocating together, but only one would fire, the pistons swung back around by a crankshaft counterweight. No belts, as the hemi twin cam overhead valves were driven by eccentrics and straps. It was only about 36 cubic inches, just under 600 cc, and delivered about 20 horsepower. But it got over 50 mpg.
@robertwillis4061
@robertwillis4061 10 ай бұрын
My first car was an NSU Prinz 600cc. It had a Dyno starter, so only about 20amps max Electrical output. It had radial tyres 135 r 12. Alloy finned steel lined drum brakes at the front, steel drums at rear. Cold air heat exchanger for the interior heater. Single speed fan
@HarborLockRoad
@HarborLockRoad 9 ай бұрын
@@robertwillis4061 yessir, i had 2 of them, a 59 and a 60, one was red, one was black. Tiny differences between the two. One only had 19k miles on it. I also had a 65 Renault dauphine gordini R1095.
@stephenberry1205
@stephenberry1205 9 ай бұрын
Great insight to my wonderful 3 new 2CV6s over 45 years and 550,000 kms. First a 1978 Club in the UK, next a 1982 Charleston and last a 1989/90 Charleston which recently received a Burton 652 cc Big Bore engine plus Power Tube for more power and torque. The 2CV was manufactured in downtown Paris from 1948 to 1987 and moved to Portugal from 1988 to 1990 with the last rolling off the line 27 July 1990. Also manufactured in Belgium, UK, Argentina, Uraguay, Chile, Spain & Yugoslavia. Here in Australia they were sold new in the late 1950s early 1960s. The first car to circumnavigate Australia was a 1923 Citroen 5CV in 1925. Citroen ID19s we assembled here from 1961-1967. I have owned 17 Citroens over 52 years. Totally addicted. My 2019 C4 Cactus plays big brother to my current Portuguese 2CV6 or is that now a 2CV7 with the Big Bore motor? I can no longer say to the policeman... But officer, can I have a credit for all the times I cannot reach the speed limit uphill.
@ijoseluis
@ijoseluis 9 ай бұрын
I had a 2cv of 1956, with the 400 cc engine and centrifugal clutch, absolutely fantastic. Then, I used a 600 cc, smooth and refined. Finally, a Duane with front disc brakes. Unforgettable. I'd like to keep it.
@josephocallaghan3000
@josephocallaghan3000 9 ай бұрын
doubt if they survived the rust and were scrapped - sadly it was a bad point, they spray painted rusty panels at least in the 1970's, and no rust protection on the chassis
@ragarse3
@ragarse3 9 ай бұрын
Yes a truly brilliant car. On a hot day simply slip out the doors - on a wet day if you forget tom put the roof down simply tip out the rubber floor 'mats'. In board brakes, longitudinal suspension all made for a lot of fun and with those skinny tyres the lean angles were astonishing. I had a Dyane but preferred 2cv - wish I still had one but so expensive now. Ah happy days and a very happy car!
@jpwillm5252
@jpwillm5252 10 ай бұрын
It was my first car: a 2CV model 1956 that I bought second-hand in 1974. You could easily fix everything. So many good memories associated with this car.... 😎 ** C'était ma première voiture : une 2CV modèle 1956 que j'ai achetée d'occasion en 1974. Tu pouvais sans problèmes tout réparer. Que de bons souvenirs liés à cette voiture... 😎
@intrepid5144
@intrepid5144 10 ай бұрын
In the summer of 1960, our parents took us to Paris, and while we were there, we got to ride in a Renault Daphine and a Citroen 2CV! As kids, we loved riding in the back seat because they were "bouncy" like a mini-trampoline! I've always had a soft spot in my heart for them ever since!
@poireau50
@poireau50 8 ай бұрын
I worked in a bakery in France in the '70s/early '80s. Not only did I make bread but I had to do the deliveries using a 2cv camionette. One of my favourite cars ever, so simple to use and service. We used it to tour France during the annual 'Grands vacances'. So many great memories. Not once did it ever break down.
@alanhubbard2739
@alanhubbard2739 8 ай бұрын
Yes, they were so simple, practically nothing could go wrong. My racing tortoise served me well for many years - I only sold it because I emigrated, but here in Mexico there aren't any! I really miss them.
@ernesthill4017
@ernesthill4017 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting video. I was always interested in these cars, so iconic on French roads for decades. They served post-war France well, being just was required in those days. Cheap, reliable, and homely as a mud fence 😂
@spicybecca4899
@spicybecca4899 10 ай бұрын
these videos are sooo cool! could you do the BMC A Series some time please? 2CV, Beetle and Morris minor were 3 of a kind in my mind!
@andrewgardner9615
@andrewgardner9615 10 ай бұрын
Plus maybe the Fiat 500.
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 10 ай бұрын
The BMC A series also had a diesel version. Thousands of those still in service, in small boats.
@michaelhamm6207
@michaelhamm6207 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for depicting parts operating in the correct direction (blower, gear pump,...). One of my peeves about this type of videos is how often stuff moves incorrectly (backwards).
@Rammstein56
@Rammstein56 9 ай бұрын
The idea to fit a flat twin for 2CV was actually thanks to the Beetle and its engine, in fact the Panhard 850cc air cooled flat-twin is much more interesting then the2 CV engine, in their last model the 24BT and CT the Panhard engine could get these cars to a topspeed of nearly 160 km/h . This engine had self adjusting valves
@benfreerider
@benfreerider 9 ай бұрын
Ich denke, zu dieser Zeit waren die deutsche und die französische Strassennetze ziemlich anders. Das Lasterhaft vom 2cv bestand einfach im Transport 4 Erwachsener (und roher Eier....) über schlechteste Wegstrecken in der Metropole und Nordafrika mit einer Geschwindigkeit von kaum 50 km/h. Für die deutschen nagelneuen Autobahnen von den 30ern war der Käfer unendlich mehr geeignet.
@duncanmacpherson2013
@duncanmacpherson2013 5 ай бұрын
The 2cv engine design is actually based on the pre-war BMW motorcycle engine
@naradaian
@naradaian 9 ай бұрын
The seats in my Diane version came out real easy too and with no rear or passenger seat AND with the roof open you could move a hell of a load …handled well round corners once the body roll is learnt
@ICGedye
@ICGedye 9 ай бұрын
The Diane van variant of the classic van, called an Acadiane was my 1st car. It was the perfect vehicle for someone with little knowledge of cars, but didn't mind learning! Not that it broke a lot, but when something wasn't right, it was easy as hell to investigate and fix. It was a good companion, cheap to run, fix, a hoot for camping trips, easy to leave in dodgy areas when going to gigs, and could be driven hard all day, and despite the roll, it handles really well. I miss it.
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 8 ай бұрын
>easy to leave in dodgy areas when going to gigs Because no self-respecting car thief would steal one.
@paulfontaine7819
@paulfontaine7819 9 ай бұрын
The heating/venting system was very simple too. To heat, adjust a lever that influences the amount of air from the fan that cools the engine to enter the cabin.
@pmfx65
@pmfx65 9 ай бұрын
The threads for the spark plugs in the cylinder heads where badly constructed, they very often broke and with a huge bang, the spark plug was shot out. I had this and there where ready made kits to repair this, when it happened because it was so frequent. In the first stage, there was a bigger thread cut into the hole and a spiral like thing was put in to hold the spark. When this was also blown out, what often happened, the hole was bored out even bigger and a repair kit was glued in. This was good enough to fix it permanently most times.
@alro2434
@alro2434 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, pretty well done! Might mention the centrifugal clutch, non-rubber 8 LARGE tapered roller bearing suspension, one of the earliest rack & pinions, and no shock absorbers to wear out on the early ones, seats & doors removable in about 15 seconds. Also, with that shift pattern, some have NOT known that there was a 4th gear available! Also, also, might mention the horrible F'up with the Mehari plastic's deterioration!
@099las
@099las 10 ай бұрын
The beetle engine shown is a dog house variant where the flow over the oil cooler is routed outside the shroud and thus no retard on cyl. 3. Also the fan on the beetle is much more effective in a pressurized system , where the axial fan will experience compressor stall rather quickly.
@TheWilferch
@TheWilferch 9 ай бұрын
Still... no doubt the # 3 cyl ran hotter.....the oil cooler was placed in the air shroud airstream with the discharge directed to #3. Hotrodders of the 50's and 60's often replace the cooler with a coiled-loop of copper external to the shroud right at the intake.....to get cooling and to distribute the shroud airflow more evenly to all 4 cylinders.
@099las
@099las 9 ай бұрын
@@TheWilferch No the hot air exits out behind the engine under the car on the doghouse shroud, but going external oil cooler is still an option! And those that mounted the oil cooler at the fan intake made a huge mistake, of course they didn't know at the time. Today we know it is the absolutely worst place you can put it. They would have been far better of not running the oil cooler at all.
@MorrisonManor
@MorrisonManor 9 ай бұрын
One thing I do have to credit the French with... Good or bad, they were never afraid of taking an idea and tweaking it from the ground up.
@bigjay875
@bigjay875 9 ай бұрын
Best Chanel for explaining engine pros and cons. Excellent work sir!
@MTSVW
@MTSVW 9 ай бұрын
This is really good. I’d still love to see a tutorial on the 2CV heater system. The Beetle has a simple yet convoluted system of piggy backing off the cooling fan, and blowing air over a few places on the exhaust manifold. Then it sends heat to the front of the car inside ducts that have a dual purpose of also giving the floor pan rigidity where it connects to the body. Then a collection of manual dampers. It doesn’t even use an electric fan-just the engine fan. So you get varying volumes of heat-directly depending on RPM of the engine and cooling fan.
@norwegiangadgetman
@norwegiangadgetman 9 ай бұрын
I though the Heater on a VW Beetle was a Jump Rope in the glove compartment?
@Alphamaxi
@Alphamaxi 10 ай бұрын
Great video, keep it up!
@whit101
@whit101 9 ай бұрын
What a wonderful vid. THANK YOU! More please. In 1963 my dad, because they were cheap, bought a used 1959 Reaunt 4 and a used 4CV for me. A decade later I worked in Isfahan, Iran were I owned a number of Citron 2CV's. Very 'cool' cars. I drove them like the wind across deserts and to work. These automobiles taught me a great truth; cars can be a 'status symbol', or a play thing, or a 'work horse'. I wish I still had one today.
@guystephenson5794
@guystephenson5794 6 ай бұрын
I owned a 425cc 2CV and two 605(?)cc Dyanes. Great little cars. The 2CV once got me home (along with another adult, two children and a large dog) on one cylinder, having blown out a spark plug following poor workshop maintenance!
@darwinskeeper421
@darwinskeeper421 9 ай бұрын
I can only wish that I had a chance to drive a 2CV, or even a Dyane or Ami. I was actually happy to see one in my hometown in the American midwest. They are extremely brilliant cars that rose from being practical transportation to becoming iconic. They also have room for taller drivers. The Oliver Pickard on KZfaq is 6ft 6in and is comfortable driving his 2CV. Hmmm...that actually gives the Citroen 1 up on the BMC Mini.
@daniel-bertrand
@daniel-bertrand 9 ай бұрын
Great video ! The flywheel was key to operations offroad. Had to spin it up and use all that stored torque with the clutch pedal as a secondary accelerator. Facing a very steep incline, you'd have to back-end so the front wheels receiving most of the vehicle weight would provide proper traction... err, propulsion. Never stuck with one of those, even without a winch.
@patrickpowell5430
@patrickpowell5430 6 ай бұрын
I have owned three. I crashed the first after a week, the second lasted me for years (and I can't even remember when our relationship ended) and I bought a third from a friend which again lasted for years. That one was wrecked by a 2CV mechanic and it had obviously crashed of a ramp as the door were now out of alignment when I picked it up after a service. They are incredibly useful and I liked mine a lot. I would get another execpt that I can't afford to run two cars and more to the point they are now 'classics' so buying one would be quite expensive. I never knew about the 2CV Sahara, I would love one of those.
@jean-lucbouchet3971
@jean-lucbouchet3971 5 ай бұрын
En 1963, j’ai acheté une 2cv de 1956 que j’ai conduite jusqu’en 1967. Je n’ai eu qu’une panne de régulateur lors d’un voyage en Espagne. Le garagiste dans un village de campagne n’avait pas le régulateur en stock, mais il a pris un morceau de fil de résistance et l’a installé dans le régulateur abîmé. Cela fonctionnait et j’ai terminé mes vacances et en France j’ai roulé encore 6 mois sans soucis jusqu’à une visite d’entretien chez Citroen qui a mis un régulateur neuf. Voiture increvable passe-partout que je regrette maintenant !
@kanes5105
@kanes5105 9 ай бұрын
I recall seeing many of the CV2 when I lived in Germany, my wife always commented on the "elbow coolers" the side windows folded down, and you would rest your elbow on the opening. I also remember seeing the odd one that would venture onto the Autobahn....risky business when struggling to reach 100 kph. We had to be careful when passing them at 200+ kph as the wind could upset the little car sending it out of control.
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 8 ай бұрын
> We had to be careful when passing them at 200+ kph as the wind could upset the little car sending it out of control. There are so many replies to this...
@paulkocyla1343
@paulkocyla1343 10 ай бұрын
I had one, but it was the late version of the 90ies with 23hp. The open roof was great in summer. We squeezed the whole physics class inside, consisting of 12 people in total, mostly standing upright. I took a sharp curve, and we´ve been on two wheels for a second - no problem at all. However, I wouldn´t like to have a crash in that tin can.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 күн бұрын
In the late 70s I owned a 485 ccm 2CV, I wish I still had it today, was one of the best daily cars ever, not for going fast, but to get anywhere you wanted to go, in rain, sun or snow. I never did put winter tyres on it either, the summer tyres worked just fine in the winters then. Today, we hardly have any snow anymore. Yes, one of my favorite cars, and going down curvy roads, it was hard for others to keep up with me, it was a blast! Cheers 👍💪✌
@Acrowat40
@Acrowat40 6 ай бұрын
Such a fun comfy ride. Complete death trap in any type of crash. Totally worth it.
@pudnbug
@pudnbug 10 ай бұрын
I drove a 2cv recently in Provence. It had adequate power for French back roads, and the quirky dashboard-mounted worked well. The main downer for me was the very heavy steering - getting it around a sharp turn at any speed required muscle. Guess I'm spoiled by power steering.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 9 ай бұрын
? the 2cv was very easy to drive even from a skinny woman, the steering was only heawy during slow speed manouvers ,never in normal driving...Not forgott that up to the 80' was power steering mostly optional in Europe even on large cars, as i was young, i had a 1976 Citroën CX 2000 without power steering, and i buy this used car by a slim woman who drove it during 5 years...
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 Күн бұрын
People get spoiled by power steering, but they also try to put in huge amounts of steering input at every low speeds. Just getting the car rolling and feeding the steering in more gradually gets it done without a load of effort. Once you have power steering, you never think about it again and just crank away on that wheel. I will admit that parallel parking, my advice is of no use! But other than that, yes.
@johnrideout7124
@johnrideout7124 10 ай бұрын
With pistons and con-rods being evenly balanced, I have often wondered why such heavy crank-counter balance weights were needed. Bearing in mìnd the weight of the flywheel keeping control. Once, I had to have it, a Volkswagen van with the most startling clanking noise you ever heard !. I clawed the engine apart, and the noise was coming from the crank-shaft, broken in half at an angle down the center main- bearing oil drilling, as it fired, the other half followed and made the banging noise.! I put it down to the owner labouring the engine in the wrong gear, over time........
@SiskinOnUTube
@SiskinOnUTube 9 ай бұрын
I got a lift in a 2CV once. It was quite comfortable. It did feel very basic, which is fine. It's an honest car.
@ianbarbarafry3707
@ianbarbarafry3707 9 ай бұрын
Had a bright yellow one of these with the 'big' 600cc engine and absolutely loved it. The rear seats were higher than those at the front, so rear passengers could see out better than with most cars. Even now, I've never had a more economical petrol car. Only part-exchanged it when rust became an issue. I'd buy a new one now, if they still made them.
@marcelo_rcosta
@marcelo_rcosta 9 ай бұрын
Tenho um fusca ano de fabricação 1964, está em perfeitas condições de uso. Boa parte de seus itens são originais. O fusca é um carro de verdade. Hoje só fabricam carros de plástico, cheios de sensores para quebrar, são verdadeiras porcarias frágeis. Excelente conteúdo! Abraços do Brasil 🇧🇷
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 10 ай бұрын
In France they taxed heavily cars over a certain cc, not HP. Most cars use only a fraction of the HP available most of the time. There is lots of HP available that is not being used. To access all this power you need to highly rev the engine. High revving engines vibrate producing lots of noise. Constantly highly revving an average engine will cause early failure. So the French designed smaller engines to rev highly to access all the HP available without any mechanical problems. That is why 2CVs and Panhards (see Jay Leno on his Panhard) could move well enough in road speed terms and acceleration, but you needed to rev them hard. So, you are using most of the power available in the engine, most of the time, making them more efficient in many ways, which is not the case with most engines. All because of the French taxation system.
@PrimoStracciatella
@PrimoStracciatella 9 ай бұрын
Right, I remember hitch-hiking in France in the early 80s, the drivers of a 2CV would rev the snot out of them, I was afraid the engine would blow up!
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 9 ай бұрын
@@PrimoStracciatella Yes. It sounded like the drivers were reckless doing damage to the engines. They were not.
@TonyKuehler
@TonyKuehler 8 ай бұрын
Perfect comparison, I have owned many mid-60s beetles so your explanations and comparisons were perfectly understood. All these years later I understand so much better.
@HermannKerr
@HermannKerr 9 ай бұрын
I have love for the 2CV for a long time. I travelled for a while with two French girls from Paris in one. If I could buy one today I would. A UK fellow, who was building new electric 2CV, said that all the parts are still available.
@tombartram7384
@tombartram7384 7 ай бұрын
The 2cv had inboard hydraulic front discs from the outset which was pretty amazing. Front discs didn't become standard across the Mini range til 1981.
@rjh_wijnands
@rjh_wijnands 9 ай бұрын
I love the way your 3D Footage is used for explanation of all functions. In all honesty, I Think it would have been better to compare it to its true rival, the Renault 4. I've driven both as they were very common on European roads for decades and really cheap to buy, until later in the nineties they gained cult appeal and at the same time declined in numbers, as they were, although cheap to fix, not really durable.
@ohger1
@ohger1 8 ай бұрын
7:45 The Beetle is the actual record holder of units produced followed by the T. Both cars were actually in production all those years virtually unchanged other than year to year evolution changes. The other cars like the Corolla, Golf, F series, etc. are just badge names on wholly different vehicles.
@robinsutcliffe-video_art
@robinsutcliffe-video_art 9 күн бұрын
my brother and I owned a 2CV back in 1998, the 50th anniversary of the vehicle I found out, many years later. It was two tone grey, and amazing fun to drive.
@henrikstenlund5385
@henrikstenlund5385 10 ай бұрын
I had a German made Isar between 1969-1973 and its engine was almost identical to the 2CV. It had a 700 cc 30 hp boxer with practically identical technical structures. Even the sound of it was the same.
@cesardavrieux3767
@cesardavrieux3767 9 ай бұрын
Pequeños motores "boxer" de 2 cilindros opuestos, como en el BMW 700. Toda una época.
@henrikstenlund5385
@henrikstenlund5385 9 ай бұрын
@@cesardavrieux3767 Lo recuerdo, sí
@lolszakjak7420
@lolszakjak7420 10 ай бұрын
2Cv sucks
@davidmatthews3093
@davidmatthews3093 10 ай бұрын
So does your opinion Mr Ignorant.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 9 ай бұрын
They Really should bring this model back especially the two engined version!!! 🤠👍
@dominiquecharriere1285
@dominiquecharriere1285 9 ай бұрын
My father had 2, for little trips in the valley and go to work, I learnt to drive on the last he had, in the 80s. Zero comfort but so funny to drive and you could go up in the mountain to places only big trucks and tractors would go (so you had less to walk to get to the top). Legendary car, I wish it would still exist.
@mus1970
@mus1970 9 ай бұрын
One of my aunts and uncles had one but I've never enjoyed a ride in it as far as I can remember. Love the way it sounds (that's true for the original Beetle as well) and seems to be alive when it 'gallops'.
@sydhughes6041
@sydhughes6041 9 ай бұрын
Had a 2cv. In red, and the Dyan model back in the 1980s. Travel all over the UK in them. Fantastic simple cars with a lovely soft ride, and loved the dash handle gear stick. Wish I still had the 2cv..as now they are very collectable in 2023.
@robertjames6640
@robertjames6640 9 ай бұрын
I have owned 3 Citroen vehicles in my life, one being a Deux Chevaux, a 2CV. Living in the north of France in a rural area, this little car never failed to do its job. It appeared to be bomb proof but it was imperative to keep her fettled, an easy task. It had 80 km when I bought it and 130 when I gave it to a friend to use as a farm truck. It is still running to this day! I also owned a 1955 Beetle, one of the worst cars I had. My 2CV had rubber fenders, canvas seats and sliding windows. It was good for around 50 mph on a good day but there was not a field or bad, hilly road it would balk on. My daughter owned a later model capable of 70 mph and a tad more sophisticated. The 2CV was a product of minimal, intelligent engineering that transported French people and others for years. Today, they make fun classics if you can find a good one.
@marsten3982
@marsten3982 9 ай бұрын
I owned a 2CV many years ago. Sorry to correct you, but the wiper was later (603ccm engine) driven by an electrical motor... I loved this car as it was my first one ever. Had a lot of fun but also some problems like clutch-wear, starter-motor quits its job and a blown out spark-plug ending on a trailer of a automotive-service vehicle to be towed to the garage. After a helicoil insert all was fine again... thanks for that great video !!
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