The Most Powerful Alternative Win Cards | Commander Tier List

The Most Powerful Alternative Win Cards | Commander Tier List | MTG

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The Commander's Quarters is your Magic the Gathering source that helps you Command Your Budget! Today Mitch talks about The Most The Most Powerful Alternative Win Cards with the Ultimate Commander Power Tier List!
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@SasoriRules2011 Ай бұрын

All the red, blue and black upkeep conditions become more viable in an Obeka, splitter of seconds deck.

@robertwilbrand3441 Ай бұрын

I have a Kenrith deck running all of them (taking out each win con as soon as I achieve it). I got my Halo Fountain win yesterday so it now joins Thassa's Oracle and Chance Encounter in my trophy collection. Halo Fountain should score a lot higher if you rate it as a card rather than as a win con. The other abilities are useful and normally the main reason to run the card, especially if you have a commander with a tap ability. I have now achieved Halo Fountain wins in 5 different decks (Kenrith, Oswald, Ellie & Alan, Queen Kayla and Yes Man).

@Toothbresh Ай бұрын

This is an awesome idea! Mind if I steal it? (I will include your name in MLA format on my work cited page)

@robertwilbrand3441 Ай бұрын

@@Toothbresh Oh absolutely, please do! You can also check out the deck on Moxfield if you like: www.moxfield.com/decks/R2Z2lFhIfkWwoxSHDmpTxQ

@RealPiercedBurley Ай бұрын

S) +1 tier for fast, -1 tier for slow A) Easy to do & easy to keep B) Easy to do, but hard to keep C) Hard to do, but easy to keep D) Hard to do and hard to keep E) Super risky F) Impossible

@shahrulizzat9352 Ай бұрын

if you play clue theme deck...it is very easy to win with mechanized production. commander like morska can create a clue at upkeep. instant like officious interrogation can create a lot of clues in instant speed. then you cast a creature with flash - final word phantom which allows you to play any spells at each opponent's end turns. then you cast mechanized production once you are sure that next upkeep the total clue will be 8. i think it is a lot harder for opponents to response to this process cause usually they are already tapped out and only counter spells can prevent this.

@cedarbobedar7223 Ай бұрын

Oh there's a Myr named Coretapper that can put charge counters on stuff. It taps to put one on and sacs to put on 2, so potentially 3 per. If you made a few copies or looped it you could get that Darksteel Reactor to go off immediately after playing it.

@ferminbalestrini6193 Ай бұрын

I have a shorikai deck that often wins with Halo fountain (Mirrodin besieged and The millenium callendar are also fun alternate wincons in it). The deck focuses on digging/tutoring for unwinding clock, protecting it and produce a stupid amount of value and pesky 1/1's. Halo fountain fits PERFECTLY onto this deck, since its an artifact that also gets untapped by unwinding clock, can be used to untap shorikai an additional time per turn (by crewing it, making it a creature to untap with any other of HF's abilities) while also producing 1/1s. This usually takes around 1 to 2 turn cycles (counting 3 opponents turns) to win and its incredibly consistent.

@flufftronix 23 күн бұрын

Battle of Wits, then set up an infinite combo with any of the repeatable "get a card from outside your library and put it in your hand" cards (ie flicker Legion Angel 100 times, you just need 108 copies in your hand to discard at least 100 of em.. or Inspired Idea yourself ahead of time to require a mere 105! Just make sure to compensate for any cards already in exile and on the board). Then, all you have to do is play a "shuffle your graveyard into your library" effect and viola, 200 card library wincon in Commander

@flufftronix 23 күн бұрын

Wow, Mechanized Production doesn't care which artifact you have 8 of. Some potential wincons: have 8 food tokens + drop MP, have 8 treasures + drop MP, control 8 creatures where one is an artifact + drop Mirrorweave and target the artifact + drop MP, clone a Myriad Construct (which will net you 4 or 7 1/1 constructs) + target the clone (4 more contstructs = at least 8) + drop MP..

@alex_oxGee Ай бұрын

I have an ezuri claw of progress deck that has simic ascendancy as one of its win cons and on a good game i can have 20 counters on it in 5 or less turns, Ezuri xp counters op

@natendragon7172 Ай бұрын

I floated the idea of throwing Liliana's Contract into my modified Blood Rites deck with the face commander. Seems stupid easy to do, but there is no fun in it for other people at the table.

@victortayupe8794 Ай бұрын

Can mechanized production target tokens? if so putting it on a treasure seems kinda busted

@davidrosenberg9615 Ай бұрын

Mechanized Production should be in A. It's much to easy to work with nowadays, thanks to the various artifact tokens we get. The easier upkeep trigger ones should be in B tier. Some of them you can legit just toss in decks on their own and they'll do it with minimal support, like Hellkite Tyrant.

@orboflighter6085 Ай бұрын

Flashing in triskadeckaphile is nutty though.

@THEdeadlynightshade1646 Ай бұрын

I won using bobbleheads (i think depending on wether having mor then 7 dice makes me unable to win my pod said it works so shrug) had luck inside my prototype portal with sonic screwdriver and that one that taps 2 artifacts to untap another artifact to keep spitting out more lucks rolling more dice making more treasures (house was my Commander and out so each 6 made enough to roll again)

@adamk5487 Ай бұрын

Can’t clone gates to win - “Gates with different names”

@FugueNation Ай бұрын

So many of these are sort of easier to pull off with Obeka, since we get Upkeeps right away.

@ReubenBruchez Ай бұрын

Gallifrey Stands is much easier to pull off with the full token copying mechanics that the Sixth Doctor and Romana manage very well. 1 changeling, copied x times, equals win. Inter-actable, but basically winnable right before upkeep with Three Blind Mice, or any other saga that copies tokens.

@leaflotus6726 Ай бұрын

As a newer player I appreciate this cause the dragon is a very easy win in a galazeth deck that runs protection

@mattmaccay2351 Ай бұрын

The good thing about biovisionary is you dont have to have the original copy to get the win. As long as u have a copy in play youre fine

@joshuabelew9653 Ай бұрын

Just to throw this out there: battle of wits CAN be pulled off, it's just ridiculously difficult. Basically there's an eldrazi card that let's you get eldrazi from outside the game and put them onto the battlefield, then you have to make all creatures eldrazi, and use his ability to pull 200 copies of persistent petitioners and somehow take them from the battlefield to your library.

@matthewwhale4514 Ай бұрын

“From outside the game” refers to the sideboard, of which commander doesn’t have or use a side board, “from outside the game” in commander almost exclusively refers to exile.

@psychpsych5086 Ай бұрын

You can't win with test of endurance even if you have vedalkan orrery. There's an intervening if.

@danielsenna3157 Ай бұрын

21:52 20 treasures are 20 artifacts with the same name. And the artifacts with the same name don't need to be the artifact you enchant.

@ThrabenValiant Ай бұрын

5 minutes in. I'd like to remind the audience that Pir and Toothy exist, and that Simic Ascendancy is probably a lot higher than B tier. I've accidentally gotten 20 in one turn.

@finlaymccormack2385 Ай бұрын

everyone who wants coalition victory back in cmd is wrong

@TheNuclearhippo1 Ай бұрын

Agreed but I think gifts ungiven should be unbanned as long as you use it the way it was meant to be used…I.e. you grab 4 powerful cards and split them instead of 2 for your combo plus 2 that give you cards from grave back, but I guess it depends on your playgroup

@garryparks9866 Ай бұрын

Disagree, eight mana is a lot, and the condition on the spell isn't the easiest to achieve especially if someone has interaction like a CS or removal for one of the creature’s or lands. It's also not nearly as good when compared to other instant win combos like thassa's oracle and demonic consultation.

@a6two Ай бұрын

I have the Painbow precon. With that card added I could win the turn after I play my Commander. That should not be legal imo either.

@chrisdetty5367 Ай бұрын

Halo Fountain is great in Preston

@EvanYoungMusic Ай бұрын

Maze’s end with scape shift

@theoceanman8687 Ай бұрын

That's why my playgroup has a ban on alternate win conditions and a strict 5 combo loop limit.

@JohnDoe-dh5jg Ай бұрын

Um... There's cards like Research//Development, Wish, Death Wish and Golden Wish that allow you to bring cards you own from outside the game into your library, hand, or play, depending on the respective card. And all of them are Commander legal, so you can play your Hedron Alignment win that way, but you'd need at least a two color deck and a bunch of hoops to pull it off.

@Ghostmagic619 Ай бұрын

When a card says to bring in a card from outside the game, it typically is referring to your side deck. Since commander doesn’t have a side deck, cards that pull cards from outside of the game only allow you to get cards from exile

@lorddiablo7659 Ай бұрын

Can’t get them from exile with wish

@Arvilion-fg6mw Ай бұрын

First! Love your content🎉

@crazypatchy1 Ай бұрын

For the Battle of Witts, I've seen ( but havent fully researched into) people using the cards that allow you to play cards from outside the game, like Spawnsire of Ulamog. Play 100 eldrazi spells you own from outside the game, then a spell to shuffle them into your library. It gets really convoluted.

@grav3m1nd Ай бұрын

Where's Frodo?

@mythito5120 Ай бұрын

He says at the beginning "No 'player Loses the game' effects" which is what Frodo is

@Ionos_09 Ай бұрын

First

@maxlindner2274 Ай бұрын

Such a shame you’re so bad at clearly pronouncing words and reading and explaining the cards 🙁 wish I could just listen to this vid but you mumble through reading the cards and your explanations…