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I've always loved Frost as a character but, you're right. Her story was always garbage, 20 years later and all that's changed is her becoming a cyborg like Cyrax and Sektor.

So Frost is essentially a Karen with ice abilities?

If they wanted to have a character who basically is motivated by hate, frost is pretty much pointless. Noob Saibot pulls off that role 100x better than frost will against kuai liang

I actually liked the way Frost lost to SZ. Imo, it shows you can have all the power handed to you on a silver platter, but without the dedication to honing your craft, ultimately you will lose to someone who's more skilled or as Subby put it: *"Such wasted potential"*. As for her character in story, I will quote another: *"You think you deserve everything just because you've suffered, but suffering isn't enough. You can't just be strong, you have to be smart. You can't just be deserving, you have to be worthy. But the only thing you have ever been, IS A BLOODY MIGRAINE!"*

I actually liked Frost when she first came out in Deadly Alliance. I liked her design and story, but I was hoping for a bit of redemption. Instead we get evil robot Frost.

I would say Frost is motivated by *Envy* rather than hatred.

Frost is such a bad character. She's like the most easy character to come up with. Let's have another Sub-Zero character, who has the same abilities and powers as he does. Only make it a female. What is next? Female version of Scorpion and we call her Crab?

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Cassy Cage: "Sup Elsa" Frost: "Why does everyone keep calling me that!?"

Frost is full of missed potential. I would’ve written her like this in the new timeline: She is a descendant of the Lin kuei and an orphan, her parents dying in a mysterious way. Kuai Liang adopts her into the group after the cage match and teaches her about her past, giving her both pride & arrogance, steeming from a fear of not wanting to be left alone or betrayed. When Subzero trues to create peace with Scorpion, she sees this as a betrayal due to her clan’s histories and attacks, but gets frozen instead. She’d then quit the Lin kuei, vowing to bring real honor to the ‘weak impostors’. This is where Kronika comes & upgrades her; however, after a few fights & learning what Secktor did to the clan in many timelines, she feels conflicted & scared. Ultimately she joins Devorah to kill Scorpion but as she’s about to give the third stab, Frost stops her but gets bugs in her systems who deactivate her movement. Past Scorpion saves her and, at hearing Present Scorpion’s final words, she apologizes before he dies. Returning with past Scorpion, her injured state helps the others believe their story & intentions(Raiden still doesn’t fights them). Later when Kronika returns she takes the part of Frost’s cybernetics that controls the cyber lin kuei, leaving her nearly dead. The special forces bring her to get repaired, as Subzero looks on in worry.

To be completely honest when it comes to frost, I never liked her and always thought she was a wasted spot on any mortal Kombat roster for any of the games they put out. Like who wants to listen to someone act like an 8-year-old spoiled child who had everything handed to them and whining and complaining the entire time they're on screen?

In MK11 she’s the MK equivalent of that one TFS scene: “Frieza did it” “Excuse you?” “The robot thing, Frieza did it”

Yep, instead of being a clone of regular Sub-Zero she became a clone of Cyber Sub-Zero, what a redesign!

Frost was that kid whose daddy wasn’t there, to take her to the fair, change her underwear, seems he doesn’t care

So Frost is an angry, spiteful, petulant woman with short blue hair and is difficult to work with? Where have I heard this one before?

All of this is true, yet despite it all, I'm still a Frost fan. Not because I genuinely like her game characterization, or even as an ironic thing. But because there's so much potential in her character that was just wasted. If the games focused more on the insecurities and the doubts that could've pushed her to make such rash decisions, I think she could've gone down as a genuinely good character with interesting pathos.

To my knowledge, the reason why she's so loved is because of one giant reason: *She's a complete fuck up.* She's a horrible human being and can kill a ton of people, but it's like the universe is dead set on her never achieving any of her goals and it's just great watching her fail time and time again. Plus, I personally just like the idea of Sub Zero rubbing his temples in frustration because the girl he's been trying to train for the last month has tried to betray him 4 times already and every time she just gets herself nearly killed.

I'm just going to say it: Frost is MK11's Damien Wayne. She's jealous, obnoxious, disrespectful, egotistical, and thinks her skills alone or the fact that she kills her opponents make her superior. Also like Damian, I enjoy her playstyle, despite not having a lot of originality. It's literally the only thing I like about her. If they *ever* decide to bring her back, they have to actually try this time! Make her cunning, manipulative, a strategist. Give her a rivalry with Takeda for all I care; just make her more than a hot-headed brat!!

To add more toxicity to that, she then singlehandedly caused the second demise of G4

I love Frost's design as a cyborg in Mk11. Especially in her intro sequence when her head gets lowered into her body. It makes her actually look like a Cyborg instead of a robot with blood in them like the rest of the cyber lin-kuei.

Frost also makes a really bad case for transhumanism: what good is migrating your mind into a robot body when it’s your mental issues that is the problem which is also what’s really causing the impulse to migrate in the first place? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Sometimes we need those awful, toxic characters to discover new storylines and abilities that branch into really great characters. You wouldn't root for them in real life, but as a video game character, they are indeed fascinating. Sometimes we need that toxic blue stinger.

I am a Frost fan because she is a wonderland for anyone who’s studied psychology like I have lol. But I think you have it wrong: her main impetus is not hatred. It’s validation. There were more clues to this in MK11 than in any other MK. She has severe self hatred and lack of self worth. But because one has to be their own source for these things, one will never be satisfied in getting it anywhere else, even from people who care for them like SZ obviously cares for her. Unfortunately for people who care about her like SZ, loving somebody like Frost is like pouring into a torn bucket, the answer is not more water. Her need for validation and recognition has overgrown her discipline and desire to improve, which is one reason why she went cyber. Also, her self hatred and lack of self worth is such that she is willing to literally throw her own body away (to go cyber) for validation and recognition. While I don’t advocate her matricide, I get the impression that she was an only (and deeply neglected) child. She is one of those types who wears their wounding and lets their wounds become their identity. Pushing people away with demands for others to give her respect and acknowledge that is not owed her, yet clueless as to why she just sabotaged any chances for respect and acknowledgment, and she dooms herself to self fulfilling prophecies over and over. And she is way too deep in her own head living in her past traumas to have any awareness of others or even herself for how she comes across. Her disguise is hubris, except everyone can see through that and so they don’t regard her the way she craves, which would be doomed anyway because she doesn’t even regard herself well. So people get put off by her hubris. Which, a key clue in MK11, she refers to as DISMISSAL. Which was her main goal to avenge, according to her MK11 ending. Another huge clue: look at who is waiting in line to humbly beg for redemption/a chance for a do-over in Kotal Kahn’s ending when he gets the time powers. She just wants to be loved, but her unhealed wounds keeps self sabotaging, which creates more wounds, etc. And I get the impression that those who are Frost fans can also intuit these things about her themselves, consciously or unconsciously. P.S. and no, her look in MK11 is god awful. It’s a nice suit, but her face looks like bratty boy King Joffrey from GoT

The most irritating character in MK history that's Frost.

I loved frost a lot. In the very end its sad that she never learned to better herself and didn't take a helping hand. Definitely a tragic character where the master was not at fault but the student. When she dies in the end there's some relief but sadness in a way that there wasn't a way to save her.

Interestingly, I knew that Frost will become cyborg in MK11 the very moment she showed up in MKX. However, I thought that new cyber initiative and her cyberisation would be Dark Raiden's idea which would lead to conflict between him and Sub Zero instead of there being stupid bald lady who told her to do that... Just because.

It seems like Frost embodies the dark side of individuality. She isn't content to serve people who have more power than her, this girl wants to be the one in charge. Frost also despises those who serve others, probably thinking that people should break their boundaries, and strive to become powerful instead. FROST: You're a good little lapdog, aren't you? CASSIE: A good soldier follows orders. FROST: The best soldiers take command.

"I'D SPIT ON THE SHAOLIN!!!"- FROST

Frost should have been part of the kombat kids, instead of Jacqui. Than every faction would have a representative. Kung Jin from the White Lotus, Takeda from the Shirai Ryu, Cassie from the SF and Frost from the Lin Kuei. The potential is right there and NetherRealm refuses to see it.

When he said “step on me ice mommy” I fucking died 😂

"Such wasted potential" Sub Zero referencing Frost

Frost reminds me of what a gen z kid finds edgy, and puts it in their social media bio's to show how different they are from the rest XD.

I always liked Frost design and I always hoped for a bigger story between her and sub. Like having sub save her from keep going down that dark path. It would be like him saving his lost brother. This could've been great development for both sub and frost and they had their chance with MK11 but since NRS writers are hacks we got what we got. At least MK11 Frost design is still nice especially the games version of her human look and I liked her gameplay as well.

I want to see a Frost, Rain, and Tanya tag team story mode. Would be cool AF to follow them if MK12 follows Shang Tsung ending.

Deadly alliance - FROZEN Deception- FROZEN MK X - FROZEN (attempted suicide by attempting to assassinate Scorpion) MK 11 Chapter 4 - FROZEN I think it's a running gag of how effortlessly Sub Zero defeats her in almost every game shes in 😅🤣😂😂😂😂

"This is why you don't betray people Frost, because you'll become a Frostcicle"

Frost would be cool if she was one of the Kombat kids, getting humbled on the process

I think Frost is the only character I don't enjoy in MK11. Pretty much all of her dialogue is some cringe edgy shit. Maybe that was the point, to make her seem like some try hard edge lord teenager, but she still gets on my nerves.

"Such wasted potential" - Grandmaster Blueberry Ice -

I feel like she is a deconstruction of the Mary Sue archetype Feels and acts superior to anyone else, thinks that she needs no training in order to best the most experienced fighters, and expects everyone to bow down to her, but unlike Rey or Marvell's Captain Marvell she receives the consequences of such behavior Kinda like Martin Walker in Spec Ops deconstructs the "maverick" who's just too good to be following orderd and proper protocol, and causes tragedy after tragedy by thinking himself to be a superhero in uniform

Frost: Now, what say you? Hanzo: Sub-Zero did it. Frost: Excuse you? Sektor: The robot thing. Sub-Zero did it. After the Netherrealm Reboot. Frost: But that's not the same, I-- Hanzo: AFTER he had issues with the Lin Kuei, like you do now. Forst: Wait, he led the Lin Kuei! Takeda: Well, this is New Lin Kuei. Frost: So, it's completely different! Hanzo: Yea, about as different as you are from Sub-Zero. Sektor: SHOTS FIRED! Frost: Kill the red one. Cyber Lin Kuei: Beep! Sektor: Sub-Zero did it.

Tbh if they can do something with female sub zero, they can sure as hell do something for Kira!

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With all her negative tendencies aside, Frost his really pretty eyes.

I always saw this as a single dad and his unruly teenage daughter type scenario. Frost: you just dont understand me dad! Sub Zero: well I adopted you that means your my daughter abd I will always try and be there for you! Seriously she is basically the ultimate unruly rebelling kid.

Sounds like Frost has that "never my fault" delusion... She'll betray you, but she'll go crazy if you do it to her...

I’m a fan of her I just wish they did more with her .

Frost is literally the eternal side chick in Mortal Kombat 11. All her intros are literally just “notice me” this and “notice me” that and “I deserve all the attention and glory.” Writers need to understand that characters need more than 1 facet to their identity in order to be loved.

What's sad is Frost is a pretty cool concept character and has a badass design. It's just NRS can't write good characters for shit. I'd fully encourage MK fans to write their own origins for Frost and see what sticks in the community.

i personally always loved frost concept and design. evil ice lady clone of sub zero? hell yes

Great video underdog

Hearing Frost get called “Ice Mommy” at 6:21 had me do a double take, then double over from laughter. Nice one.

Love your content keep up the great work

"I-I can fix her..."

Have you already done the Funniest Moments in MK History? Like when Joker punched Scorpion in the back of the head with the glove? Or when Taven was all "You're free to go"?

Frost is one of my favorite MK Kharacters. She's always my main in every game she's in.

6:07 now that that was the time where those inner mind takes over XD

Most of the Frost fanaticism comes for her design, sex appeal and saltiness… because that the whole character… and it works? Well… Definitely…

6:17 For someone who's associated with the *COLD,* Frost sure Is *HOT* In this comic.

Frost is like a fregging movie theater manager. In fact she'd be a ideal candidate for that position, y'all how petty and untrustworthy theatre managers get sometimes.

dont hate the character with high potential that failed hate the trash developer that cant write a normal good story for 5 sec without 10 retcons in it. And gather all cool great villain in a game and thats it, they just there and evil, thats how the new developer handle the story of the besy fighting of all time like that.

Her being "evil" feels forced ..like she's trying so hard to be edgy and bad😩🤦🏾‍♂️

I always liked that mk11 frost can make bigger ice objects then the sub zero like the pick or shoot multiple ice stars but there very crude unlike subzero who while not being able to have as much ice output can make ice weapons with sharp edges and detailed patterns

I Call her Kunimitsu wannabe who was turned into Alisa wannabe, sorry xD

Hey "Super Nerd", it's called the Dragon Medallion. Not the Cyromancer Medallion or the Frost Mediallion. It even says it in the clips you included.

Isn’t this what NRS been doing with the characters in this new timeline?(retcon them with toxic traits).

nice video, I do wonder who's the most loyal mortal kombat character tbh

I love you TrueUnderdawg, but 6:20 was the horniest thing I’ve ever heard

6:20 you did not just say that 😂😂😂

I remember when I first saw Frost in DA, I was super excited. I gravitate towards female kombatants and u was ready to see what she had. I appreciated her variations and I liked her first fatality. I think it would be cool to see how she is in Liu Kangs MK1. Her shtick got real repetitive, for sure. But she knocked her first outing out of the park!

Underrated lore channel!

Chill out, Elsa.

What if Frost has a friend who she trusts well enough to question better actions of her plans and loyal to the bitter end

I loved using Frost in MKDA. She was my favorite character in that game.

That headslam before saying “yup, thats all she does” 😩😩😩💀💀💀

As someone who's favorite character is Frost and has been since I was little this is so Upsetting cuz like you and everyone in the comments is totally right but the game itself and I KNOW just how much potential she has

Nobody: Frost: ugh leadership

"Frost's anger is matched only by her failures" OOOF !💀 She's going to need all the ice she can get after that burn ! 🤣

Li mei in the footage: FROZEN Boob physics: I'm going to ignore that.

When you have that haircut, the only default emotion you’re allowed to have is angry or toxic

Frost the type of girl to call you a hacker when you beat her in a 1v1

Haven't you forgotten what Frost had tried to do to Scorpion thus leading him and Sub-Zero to a peace offering?? Also if I were to reach Frost, if I were to do my next MK story after 4 is done hopefully, I probably won't have Frost as the vengeful lunatic in the series. Perhaps she and Sub-Zero might be a couple instead like Liu Kang and Kitana. That's just a cold take; I have already hated her enough! Oh and a little FYI reboots and remixes never help! Just take a look at what Hollywood and the TV networks are doing, they're greenlit!

Frost is easily one of the lamest villains in Mortal Kombat thanks to her wasted comeback in Mortal Kombat 11. She had potential to be an interesting villain with a proper new backstory and gameplay. But instead they made her into a spoiled whiny angry teenager who cowards into a corner to shoot projectiles. Because of how badly they screwed her up, it is very unlikely she'll ever return in a future game ever again. ⛄️💩

Ah yes, go on, attack the guy who controls electricity with a bunch of robots.

"She kinda bad tho, is that Frost" 💀💀💀

what's sad to me is that if there were any other mildly interesting female lin kuei members then we'll never get to see them because we're stuck with frost. and while i do like frost from a design standpoint. she amounts to nothing interesting about her being a female cryomancer and a spoiled brat. they could have changed this or at least made her a redeemable villain in the reebooted timeline but the only good thing they did with her is give her some bling on he design and left 0 charm on her character. if they bring back nitara in MK 12 they better not show this level of disrespectful care that they put onto Frost.

He true I say a old video about the worst mistakes I think one might be is how Square and triangle interacts with objects

Frost didnt steal the Medallion because it would make her powerful. She thought it was just a symbol for grand master and took it from Sub-Zero which is why she wasnt ready for the huge power boost it gave her. Because again she didn't know. Without the years of training that Sub-Zero had she was helpless to her own powers.

I enjoy seeing the fatalities done in her for this reason

If they bring her back I'd love to see her look more like she does in Deception. She may be trying to kill my favorite characters but I'd like to see her again if she looks the way she used to. Oh and if she doesn't have a voice like a Terrible 2s toddler on a permanent temper tantrum.

the first time I saw her in Deadly Alliance, I thought she was awesome, a Sakura (from street fighter) for Sub-Zero, and then I finished her arcade story, and I saw that she was a traitor and not a gifted and studious student respecting her master. like sakura i was really disappointed not to have my stereotype of a female student like sakura or yuri sakazaki (KOF), and when mortal kombat x came out with all the kombat kid stuff i had hoped he would would reconnect. In a starring role with the other Kombat Kid, unfortunately this was not done.

What I would have done is the have her be a lost descendant from sub-zero's clan. Some lin Kuei somewhere left the clan and settled down generations ago and later frost is born outside the lin Kuei. She eventually enters an MMA tournament and fights Cassie but loses forming a rivalry with her. She then gets discovered by sub-zero and he sees she has untapped potential so he offers to train her all the while testing to see if she is right as a potential successor to look after the lin kuei should anything happen to him. Maybe have that be a conflict Her not wanting anything to do with the Lin Kuei as a whole. Idk this is just off the top of my head.

Frost would be a perfect sith apprentice

6:15 how the hell did he just read my mind

She should’ve been part of the Kombat Kids, instead of notice me senpai, at least to be a representative of the Lin Kuei and she can still be arrogant and antagonistic(especially to Takeda but more so to Cassie and Jacqui) but eventually warms up to the group. She has that ambition to be Grandmaster, especially with Sun-Zero basically spoiling her given their Cryomancer heritage and eventually something happens between MKX and MK11 where Kronika can easily manipulate her way into her head using the dark side of her ambition basically augmenting her and giving her the strength she needs to take the title herself

Can you do a tier list of how strong mk characters are

Frost is just like a five year old after he doesn't get his pb&j without the crust

I love Frost. Yeah, she's toxic but nobody likes her. She's like Waluigi, you can't help but feel bad for her and want her to succeed.

Yes your right when someone betrays Frost that is the ULTIMATE BETRAYAL