like and subscribe if onma island is buried a treasure chest

"I don't dislike Mr Beast, I just dislike everything his brand represents" Well played, sir

when a video wants you to be engaged EVERY SECOND, no part of it stands out and it becomes boring. absolutely loved this, really glad someone tackled this topic

"This dude MrBeast-ified poverty" is depressing both for being a sentence we can truthfully say and for being one that everyone here instantly understood

"I spent 100 hours in the world's poorest country." Does "100 hours" sound longer and cooler than "4 days"?

Oh my god I was so annoyed by these videos and everyone seems to praise them as youtube masterclass. Thank you for this video. Such a breath of fresh air.

The hyper editing style that he popularized most definitely has permanently reduced a lot of kids attention spans.

This video perfectly showed what jacksepticeye meant when he said “mr beast is ruining KZfaq”

this is what jacksepticeye meant when he said he doesn't like mr.beast

The fact that you can keep our attention for 44 minutes is proof that you don’t need fast paced content to keep peoples attention.

"This dude Mr. Beastified poverty" threw me for a loop

Did you know, you can be generous and charitable without sticking a camera in someone's face

the eating one is incredibly scary for his audience demographic, losing weight like that is rarely long term is very dangerous and can give you an eating disorder that can put you in hospital if you don't manage to recover and eat normal healthy amounts again. As somebody who nearly lost a friend to anorexia this shit scares me so much

What’s more frustrating is that a MrBeast challenge would actually be more interesting if it was slow-paced with actual personality. Seeing the thought process and and in-depth techniques behind these crazy shenanigans would be really interesting. But instead it’s all conveyed in a lightning-fast stream of hyperedited gibble-gobble that no one could ever possibly keep up with.

Dude goes to the poorest country in the world. He could have discussed the issues that lead to this country being so poor, but he didn’t. Props to those orphanage workers who didn’t let him film the children

Crazy how the time MrBeast made content on making fun of kids minecraft intros has been erased from history, and no one even knew he used to do that 💀

As someone who grew up when there was a crash dieting epidemic among teenage girls (and guys, but primarily girls,) seeing the video where MrBeast starves himself and shows his weight loss set off serious alarm bells in my head. It is SUCH a bad idea to show that to a young, impressionable audience.

I think this is why I've moved far more towards watching video essays. It feels like all forms of content have began to learn towards just "spending loads of money" except for video essays, mainly because the intentions of them are solely a personal and niece topic. Whilst this is obviously not 100% of essayists I feel that the personal quality is what I really crave in the content I watch. Anyways great vid pinely

hyper editing really appeals to kids nowadays, and mr beast really took that type of editing mainstream.

I'm a nanny to a little boy who worships Mrbeast, he's only ten so to him Mrbeast is the coolest man ever! I'd normally just right it off, little boys try to emulate their idols all the time, but seeing the "I stopped eating for 30 days" makes me hesitate. it's hard enough trying to get him to eat on a normal occasion, I have to fight him sometimes even, so what if he watches or has watched that particular video and has it in his head "well Mrbeast went days without eating" he's seriously always concerned about gaining weight as it is so for him to see his idol do it, to see his idol celebrating losing weight while on a crash diet- what message will that send him? Mrbeast and his clones are marketed towards kids, like I can't see anyone in their twenties or up watching more than a few of his videos and enjoying it, usually what they put on screen is harmless stupid fun, but then there are those videos that really aren't so harmless.

this video was too long and not fast paced enough for me so unfortunately i speak for everyone when i say we will be taking our viewership back to tiktok now

I’d like to point out that Mr Beast had a golden period when he really blew up where Jimmy struck the right balance of relatability and the typical KZfaq insanity. Things like spending a full day in a desert with a group of friends or being buried alive for a night are like dumb ideas that cross your mind in conversation. And there were even storylines(Chandler never winning any challenges for example) that were like running jokes within a friend-group. But nowadays his remaining friends are more like crew members that’re obliged to be there and do jobs in the videos.

as someone w anorexia, the mr beast not eating video definitely (even if unintentionally) promotes restrictive eating disorders. “look guys! in just one day i lost this much!” this is so so so bad.😭 he even shows how absolutely tired and disheveled he is because of this and it just hurts me to know how many kids are watching that video

To add on, the genre has changed a lot recently. Back in the past when we had these awesome gaming KZfaqrs, irl KZfaqrs, etc.. the videos were longer not much edited, and were just soothing to listen to. Nowadays every youtube video is filled with sensory overload. Old KZfaqrs are something of the past, they either fell off, quit or are not appealing to today's generation

For a editing style that’s meant to hold your attention span, it really does the opposite for me, a person with ADHD. Frankly, it makes me more overstimulated to the point I feel like my brain will explode

I think it's funny that his editing style that's supposed to grab your attention and keep you watching has the opposite effect on me, considering I have ADHD and normally lose interest when stuff *isn't* engaging enough

Dude I was getting so sick of "onma island buried a treasure chest" repeating in the video until you told us the context and now i cant stop laughing

As a new KZfaqr who just wants to do the classic “talking to a camera” I feel so much pressure 😭😭 like I don’t wanna be overly loud and hype or have crazy edits. I just wanna vibe.

You finally said what no one was brave enough to say. Thank you, Pinely.

one thing i absolutely HATE about Matthew Beam is that he does not shut up about MrBeast. Like his entire personality is knowing MrBeast. In his MrBeast island video he calls every single fucking thing “Mrbeast.” eg. “MrBeast cave” “MrBeast pathway” like it’s not his thing 💀😭

"Capitalism breeds innovation" The innovation in question:

This is what Jacksepticeye was referring to in his recent "drama" with MrBeast

Wow this was incredible and accurate. For me, I think what annoys me the most is the copycats. There's no personality and half of their videos are faked / exaggerated. I've always felt my own videos were too boring, not kept up with todays standards to keep retention, but after watching this, I felt a lot better. I've always tried to be myself and not some copycat robot and this video really spoke to me. Thank you for speaking what so many of us creators wanted to put into words. It's just sad the algorithm is rewarding this type of content right now. KZfaq needs to go back to their roots and remember what made this site successful to begin with IMO..

was drawn to this video due to sharing the same opinions, and oh boy after hearing your thoughts on the editing preventing what could have been a really interesting video with the not eating video, I would love to hear your opinion on the man who was stuck in a circle for 100 days. what a waste of what could have been one of the most interesting videos on the platform.

The crazy thing is if I had access to Mr. Beast’s tax refunds or construction drawings for his crazy ass one use sets. And the dedication to do all that math, I could tell you with a decent degree of certainty how much unnecessary pollution/energy/carbon/water his content is creating. Which admittedly, not that crazy, rich guy uses large amount of earths resources who’s shocked. But the part where it gets interesting is you’d find those millions and millions of dollars he specifically asked the public to help him fund to clean the seas, plant trees all that money wouldn’t even offset the emissions Mr. Beasts videos ALONE cause the planet in a short period of time (months?). So literally it’d be more environmentally friendly for Mr. Beast to not make videos or content at all. The main issue is the way he tried to help out by planting trees and cleaning debris. It’s not an effective way to help with money on any large scale but the public doesn’t know that especially kids. That money could’ve been sent to a much more proactive cause and prevented billions of dollars of pollution instead of cleaning it up after the damage is already done but I don’t think he wants to do that because it’s less KZfaq flashy. Like jimmy cmon you don’t have to build a whole ass 30,000 sqft chocolate factory for a one off KZfaq video

The thing is, I'm sure plenty of people _do_ make unique, interesting videos but youtube doesn't recommend them to nearly as many people

"Everything in this store is off-brand MrBeast" At least he has a healthy amount of self-awareness

mr. beast use to be a favourite channel of mine, specifically in the "jimmy and his friends do dumb shit" era where he and his friends conveyed genuine chemistry and were hilarious, and not as family friendly. now when I watch a mr. beast video it feels like im reading a school textbook in the sense that its is just genuinely a bother to consume.

His style of editing makes the entire video feel like an intro.

Today, jacksepticeye and MrBeast had some weird Twitter “argument” about how jack doesn’t like MrBeast because he “MrBeastified” KZfaq, then I get recommended this video. I firmly believe MrBeast a couple years ago was the best one. It was kinda half half with the commercialized style of content, but he also had fun. Nowadays, when he goes into podcasts and talks about his daily life, it sounds like he’s enslaving himself. He says he’s constantly booked and when he isn’t he’s thinking of new ideas and whatnot. Okay that’s fine but for all those amazing ideas and all that money spent on a video that can potentially be hours long, gets cut down to about 10-15 minutes of super fast, oversaturated garbage. I like his videos sometimes, but other times it just seems like he’s simply not original. Like his new video was him crushing a lambo and exploding bank vaults. That’s cool and all but where’s the originality in that? How many more explosions need to happen and cars need to get destroyed before we can move away from this sludgy content style? Besides all of that, I absolutely love how MrBeast is a positive youtuber and everything he’s done has clearly inspired everyone to do the same. Good for him!!

this aged like expensive wine.

Mr beast is the fast food of youtube content

this exact video idea was on my next up list but you did a better job than i would of, well done home slice

"I didn't eat for 30 days" that's called an eating disorder

I miss the old youtube, the days where creators had a passion for the specific field they were in, now everything is so generic and factory made, one great example was ryan higa whos videos had a production value of like 2 dollars but were extremly entertaining and seemed full of energy

In 2012, PewDiePie made history and recreated the Let's Play videos and popularized it to the extent that until now, all other gaming youtubers are doing the same thing. Now, in 2022, the MrBeast clones are doing the same thing.

I think a lot of the "MrBeast-ification" also comes down to youtubers realising how profitable young kids are, so they deliberately make the content super quick and digestable since their attention spans are so low

The fast-paced editing is such a high-stimulus-but-shallow style of content, as it doesn't allow thoughts and emotions to sink in, and reflections to simmer. I feel like streaming kinda dodges this issue (it turns out you don't need ANY cuts AT ALL), and video essays are forced to edit to the shape of their points/arguments, because the audience needs to process the information--that's the entire point. A nerdwriter video can show a simple zoom and nothing else for 10 seconds, and I'm absolutely hooked--the rhythm of his music, voice, and visuals carries viewers effortlessly through the video. The more jarring cuts are only done when they add to the viewing experience, whereas in mr-beast-style videos, jarring cuts are so frequent that we're just numb to it. Walter Murch said in his iconic book on editing: "I recall once coming back to the editing room after a few weeks in the mixing theater (where all movements are smooth and incremental) and being appalled at the brutality of the process of cutting. The 'patient' is pinned to the slab and: Whack! Either/Or! This or That! In or Out!"

Dr disrespect, edp, colleen Ballenger, all mister beastified

Orr exclusively referring to him as “Jimmy Beast” is a beautiful thing. Honestly forgot MrBeast’s last name for a while and only realized that it is not in fact Beast about halfway through the vid.

I love the shirt, man. Also, I've noticed you stepping up the effort and quality in what you make. I always love to see that, because I've outgrown so many creators' content when they continued to make low effort, thoughtless/passionless, and childish commentary despite also growing older and richer. Thoughtfulness and writing is always more important than any visuals or crazy editing.

Aged well. Mr Beast getting cancelled.

Jacksepticeye gonna use this video as his rebuttal 😅😂

The biggest problem is the TikTok-ifying of KZfaq. As more people get used to short-form content, KZfaq videos are trying to imitate the rhythm of them. Being brought up on TV in the 90s, I find it exhausting to watch, but Gen Z has had their attention spans destroyed by fast content overload.

In the D&D community we have a phrase called "The Matt Mercer Effect" because there is the Dungeon Master named Matthew Mercer (most famous from critical role) who is perceived as such a perfect Dungeon Master that everyone tries to emulate him not really realizing that his abilities are a skill he worked on and it makes people deny their own skills in exchange for trying to be a better dungeon master This kinda feels like the same situation

its funny bc mr beast himself is disappointed by the clones too LMAO

The term we call for what the guy in the poorest county vid was doing is referred to as "poverty porn"

I 100% agree with everything you pointed out here. My brother was chosen to go to be in a Mr. Beast video recently. I actually found this video while checking to see if it had come out yet. Neither of us watches his channel, but my brother said he figured it would be a fun experience so he accepted the offer. He later told me and my friends that everything happens so incredibly fast that him and many other contestants could not even process or enjoy what was happening because it was just too chaotic, random, and fast paced. After going back and really trying to watch his videos, I completely get why people may get headaches watching and/or participating in them ahahaha

crying at the guy who bought all those chocolate bars to get the golden ticket because he either didn't watch/read charlie and the chocolate factory or _really really_ didn't understand the point of the story 😭

The visceral reaction i had when you played the clip of him celebrating weight loss in the not eating for 14 days video-

fidias just won a seat in european parliament 😭

I started to watch mrbeast right before he really exploded in popularity. Looking back, it was crazy to see his videos get progressively more intense. He went from smashing laptops to being a celebrity in what felt like 2 years.

You know, if I were to describe Pinely, I would say he's pretty loud, maybe even charitable.

Woah. This is my first video of yours I’ve seen… this was a relief to watch. My gooooodness. I’ve felt this way for a while and haven’t heard anyone go into this much detail. So thanks

EmpLemon was talking about KZfaq feeling like TV all the way back in 2017, it’s nice to see other people thinking about it and bringing it up

"Being obsessed with retention" to me basically means "catering to the interests and attention spans of children". But these people seem to forget how many late teens to thirty-somethings and above watch KZfaq. It's one approach to take for growth, but imo will not usually allow for long term success and will kill your soul. Lol. There are so many successful educational channels, video essayists, comedy channels directed at adults, and blends of these things that achieve deeper success by actually putting their heart into content that's more than just flashy and loud.

I miss the transition era of mrbeast where it was just him and his friends goofing off doing fun stuff, it made you care way more about the people winning things because you actually got to know them, like the first "first to leave the circle" video. Nowadays all his friends are in his content are loud guys who yell at the contestants

Finally someone making a video on something I’ve been telling people since this became the norm. Highly edited, Big productions, and highly scripted content makes it feel like Tv and not a personal feeling that KZfaq was back in the day. Personality has been drained for a cookie cutter of what a KZfaqr is now

back here because of the mr beast vs jacksepticeye twitter beef lmfao

I'm so glad someone is finally talking about this, I was thinking of how so many videos nowadays are so "overedited" like I was watching a youtuber called moon and just had to notice how incredibly fast paced his content was, there was not a single pause or a second of silence throughout the whole video. The comments here have reassured me that people won't always want fast content and that you can take it slow on KZfaq and still form a fanbase.

hearing "history of youtube" when i'm older than google (i'm 33) aged me GREATLY. enjoying this breakdown, thanks! been listening to a few of your videos while i do a lil paint by numbers and i'm gonna subscribe. (commenting for ze algorithm gods)

as someone who’s recovering from an ed, the eating one was super unsafe, especially since his target audience is young children. if i had seen that video at my worst, it would have fed my ed, convincing me that it is “safe” for me to starve myself for long periods of time. the warnings of how dangerous it is, and how he’s doing it with a doctors help and advice would’ve been really beneficial. he should be a good role model, and i think he tries to be a good role model, but he definitely misstepped with this video

To be honest, the MrBeast-like editing with all the fast-paced shots and sound effects, mixed with the constant screaming, just ends up entering my brain as noise, I no longer recognize anything

I have never once seen a single MrBeast video and at this point, it's being shoved in my face so much that I refuse to out of spite. Like, I'm sure his videos are fine, fun even, but I keep feeling like I could pretty much get the gist of the video just from the thumbnail and title

im ngl this autoplayed after the sneako anti-semetism video and i had this in the background and thought you just took a hard segue into discussing mr beast for some reason and i was like "ohhhhh shit"

I haven't gotten a single one of these type of videos in my recommendations for at least a couple years now and I'm on KZfaq for 4 to 8 hours a day (more on work days) If you don't want to get those vids don't click on them. You might not like the style but if nobody likes it, it wouldn't get views. People are literally saying the same thing about your genre (commentary) because every big channel has tons of Copy cats. It has "why are people posting stuff on MY WEBSITE?" energy.

Never heard of the guy, but my 2 cents are on it's more a yt problem than a creators problem. Yt now basically pushes for the 'soulless, sanitized, kids-safe' stuff, not much different from cable tv. If the guy made money with it, good for him. Fact is, yt is no longer the platform for weirdos and no filters creators it once was.

My favourite IRL content creator is Ryan Trahan because all his videos have this sort of implict development and ends with a message. It may be just me, but his videos always seem meaningful to me, like in his 30 day series, he met so many people who were genuinely so kind and friendly, and that really put a smile on my face. It’s like his videos themselves don’t focus on flashiness or anything and he just wants to use KZfaq as a voice to communicate a message.

mrbeast started changing his content and having it more long paced (for example the 1-100 ages video being 40 mins long) so i’m glad that they’re going for a change and the video was actually pretty good

I think Ryan Trahan is genuinely the best content creator on KZfaq. He can turn "boring" ideas like sitting in a room in silence for 60 minutes, building a shelter in the woods, and racing an old man on an airport walkway into actually entertaining and funny videos which show off his personality. Guy can make stories from thin air

from someone with a past eating disorder, the food video was so uncomfortable and i can easily see it triggering ppl who are actively recovering, hell even the thumbnail can be taken as a challenge to someone with disordered eating, but for him to show off how much weight he lost while starving himself thats so incredibly irresponsible and dangerous i sincerely hope youtube removes it or he adds a disclaimer/trigger warning because thats just an advertisement for anorexia as a weight loss tool (even if he includes the negative aspect of starving ppl with eating disorders will disregard them or view them as challenges or signs of success)

I fell asleep while watching this video. When I woke up and continued watching the first I saw is "on my island, is buried a treasure chest" gag. It was repeated over and over and over and over again and it felt like I was still having a fever dream. This was one of the Weirdest mornings ever

I really like your videos. They feel less fast and really take time to flesh out each topic and some of the nuances.

You know, my youngest son is 17, and we have been watching youtube together for a long time. When he was younger, his turn for a video would drive me crazy.. I'd kind of feel like I was losing my mind. I never could see what it was that I hated so much.. It felt like everyone was on speed, including me. I'm not sure why I needed the endless cuts stuff pointed out for me, but at least I no longer feel like I was just being judgy about youngster centered content. Also, the poverty porn is really gross.

im super out of subject but its hilarious to me : the person that bought 10 thousand chocolate bars to get a chance to get into mr beast's chocolate factory, he's acting exactly like the spoiled kids in the movie. thats. So funny to me.

The exploitation of the poor and lower class will always piss me off. Experiencing poverty in a first world county i cant imagine what a third world country must go through on top of also being exploited. Although these mr beast copycats and mrbeast himself are technically doing a good deed but it just feels so detached it doesnt even feel like a good deed anymore.

Hey, your storytelling is excellent and I can't believe just an opinion video can attract me for 44 minutes like that.

I wholeheartedly agree. I have fallen into the mrbeast-ification trap myself as I have tried to grow my channel. Over the past year I saw tremendous growth from using those strategies, fast cuts, etc. but I always felt like I had to fight to keep people entertained. and that feeling of "fighting" to keep people on the video made me feel like I was wasting my own time and effort, because the truth is that if someone doesn't want to watch a video they also shouldn't be forced to by using dopamine hits against them. It felt like I was trying to keep my audience prisoner inside of my videos rather than just letting them have a good time because they like me or they like the content. That made me unhappy to make, and I struggled to pump out videos because it felt like it was an empty-shell of a video. KZfaq has been a game-show recently, but I love movies where you see characters develop because I think that hits home harder and on a deeper more personal level. in the last couple of vlogs ive made, ive purposely slowed down my editing, eliminated cuts, and let people talk more slowly, stopped putting so many sound effects, and eliminated text from the screen when it wasn't necessary. It made me happy to create content again, even if I am going to sacrifice "views" id rather sacrifice that than the human element of a video. Its a lesson I myself am learning, I have to un-learn how to mrbeast-ify myself and my own content and come back to the core of KZfaq so we can move past this stage and into the next one. I love KZfaq and I think were all grateful for what mrbeast has done and will continue to do, but that doesn't mean we all have to act like and pretend to wanna-be mr beast. he's a legend in his own right but that doesn't mean we need a million copycat versions of him running around KZfaq. The Mrbeast copycat era will come to an end when more and more people wake up to the retention brainwashing our desperation for views has led us into. KZfaq still has the potential to connect with people in a positive way even more so than any other platform, it just has to be done correctly and the path must change now before were so lost we can't recognize our own humanity inside of content and storytelling anymore.

lost my shit at the repeating 'onma island' part omfg

Dogpack404s video made everything worse this aged well

catching up on the required lore to fully put the jacksepticeye x mr beast drama into perspective

This video was extremely informative.

"Taste like dirt" "I actually like" -The only thing I actually "retained" out of all the examples of the Retention-Oriented™️ editing style

the way this is being recommended after the Jacksepticeye and Mr beast twitter beef lol

I get bored watching a 17 minute long Mr beast but I can watch this entire video and be perfectly entertained the whole time

I do find not eating for several days as content also a bit distasteful in the sense, people do it every day because they don't have another option. It's not a game. However of course, the "poorest country" video is just insane

Ironically (or not), this video VERY MUCH stood out to me, grasped and sustained my attention, had me engaged for almost 45mins straight and made me subscribe to your channel.

"you're limited by your personality" mrbeast needs to be studied in a lab

Petition to legally call this “Into the MrBeast-Verse”

Another thing to note: Think of how easy it would be to make an iconic moment comp from old Mrbeast and how much harder it'd be with new mrbeast