The Murderous Downfall of YouTuber McSkillet...

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Coffeehouse Crime

Coffeehouse Crime

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Trevor Heitmann, better known online as McSkillet, was an American gaming KZfaqr who created videos about CSGO Trading Skins. Following huge financial losses and a profound disturbance to his mental health, McSkillet's forthcoming actions would devestate multiple families.
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00:00 Intro
01:03 Trevor Heitmann's former years
03:06 The Rise of McSkillet
06:39 The Fall of McSkillet
08:30 Early warning signs...
09:29 911 Call + Bodycam Footage
12:00 A missed opportunity
14:15 August 23rd, 2018
17:21 Aileen and Aryana Pizarro
19:01 Exploring McSkillet's Mental Health
21:24 Aftermath
22:44 Personal thoughts
24:09 Outro
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@CoffeehouseCrime
@CoffeehouseCrime 2 жыл бұрын
Hey folks! A little different to my usual format, but this case is very unqiue. The further I dug through my own research, the more I realised that this case is not fully publicly understood. There were a few breakthroughs in my own investigation, and I hope this video contributes to the importance and urgency of realising a sudden relapse in mental health. This story gripped me, it is a very real and tragic case which claimed the lives of our real victims Aileen and Aryana Pizarro. I hope their family finds peace moving forward. Stay safe out there, and I'll see all of you again on Thursday! Adrian ☕️
@tebogolegodi1174
@tebogolegodi1174 2 жыл бұрын
I'm obsessed with your content and style of delivery. Love all the way from South Africa. ❤️ You've covered 2 SA cases that I know of, please may you do another? That of Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp. Thaaaaaaannnkksss. Xo
@sibyly_mia
@sibyly_mia 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a lot of mental fortitude to continuously make videos about topics like this. Your research seems on point and being a part of the conversation allows you to make some valuable contributions ‼️ Keep up the good work 💯 ✨ Still listening 🎧 -- untreated mental health issues are at the core of so many of these sorts of incidents.
@purplestareyes
@purplestareyes 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished the video and loved that you focused on the mental health part of it all. It gets overlooked so much and people so easily point the finger to suicidal tendencies. Tho id love it in the future if you put the victims stories first like you used to do in past videos even if you don't know that much about it. I think so anyways, tho i understand it's a different kind of case. Thanks for covering this case! I'll be looking forward to the next one :)
@CoffeehouseCrime
@CoffeehouseCrime 2 жыл бұрын
@@tebogolegodi1174 Thank you! It's not Pistorius but we are back in South Africa next week!
@ibispaintfox1055
@ibispaintfox1055 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Adrian, and I'm hoping nobody comes for you because of the way La Jolla was pronounced. Either way loved the story.
@Savariable
@Savariable 2 жыл бұрын
It's legitimately fucking disgusting that the city is blaming the parents for "not acting sooner" when they literally fucking called the police who effectively just laughed them off.
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw
@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw 2 жыл бұрын
YEP police was negligent. RIP to the mom and her kid.
@TheK3WLK4T
@TheK3WLK4T 2 жыл бұрын
I havent even finished watching but yea the police dismissed it as soon as they found out the kid was a millionaire. Money does not make people mentally stable such a narrow way to think of life
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they didn't hide his car keys despite knowing he was having mental breakdown
@orinorio1
@orinorio1 2 жыл бұрын
yeah. Think the City will sue the parents to save grace on the police. Those policeman must now live with the fact that 3 people died due to them not acting. This oh he has to hurt someone or break the law first then he can be arrested mindset is shocking.
@elizabethtyrrell7362
@elizabethtyrrell7362 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally going to post the exact same thing. This is the bullshit that makes me so angry. And the government wonders why we do not trust them. Even the city government is fucking stupid. I just can't
@ashleytyraisaacs
@ashleytyraisaacs 2 жыл бұрын
“Why didn’t the parents do anything?!” The parents: *Called a practicing mental expert who was also a family friend to give a professional statement that would have normally cost thousands of dollars* *Called the police on their own son.* *Begged the police to stop their son and get him help.* *Were unable to commit him due to his age and him being a legal adult but tried anyway* *Put their own car in the driveway to PREVENT him from leaving the house.* *Were threatened by their son and put their own safety at risk by not only housing him, but trying to keep him IN the house.* *Called the police on their own son AGAIN. Not because they were angry that he rammed into their vehicle but because they were concerned.* *Were the first to warn police that something bad is about to happen despite the police having ignored them until they were finally forced to do something.*
@wezacker6482
@wezacker6482 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I don't know enough about the laws of CA to say for sure, but if those Police Officers genuinely couldn't do anything in that circumstance shown, that's the problem. If they COULD do something, and chose not to or were unaware that they could, THAT'S the problem. One of those 2 reasons cost 3 people their lives.
@khaightlynn5295
@khaightlynn5295 2 жыл бұрын
@@wezacker6482 the CA law is 5150, as stated in the video, which is a
@Neophema
@Neophema 2 жыл бұрын
@Goatbe Bryant More concerned about making jokes about Trevor teaching him how to make millions. So inappropriate.
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important part: *gave birth to and raised a dangerous murderer*
@thepackable
@thepackable 2 жыл бұрын
Something needs to be done about this. What in the world do we pay them for if they aren't taking the responsibility seriously. Why do we arm and armor them up if they don't think we are worth putting their lives on the line for? [Talking about texas] The land of "manly big gun big truck mans" With a chickensh police dept.
@melissaq8854
@melissaq8854 Жыл бұрын
its so infuriating to hear that 3 people were asking, practically beggingto get him help and those officers ignored them
@Nexuhss
@Nexuhss 3 ай бұрын
Tell me you don’t understand civil rights without telling me you don’t understand civil rights.
@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 3 ай бұрын
It is almost like cops are not trained to handle mental health issues and we need to find people who can help.
@ninakuup21
@ninakuup21 3 ай бұрын
I swear people cry about police brutality and then complain why they don't take action without proper evidence. Its really funny if you think about it.
@johnli25
@johnli25 3 ай бұрын
Same can be said about school shootings. So many red flags are ignored before they happen
@ThePokemonSoldier
@ThePokemonSoldier 3 ай бұрын
@@ninakuup21 Ever consider the police in America are morons?
@b.mcw.
@b.mcw. 9 ай бұрын
I am a mobile crisis worker but our policies in PA are different from California. There are very specific criteria that need to be met in order for a county mental health delegate to approve a 302 (5150). Then the individual is transported to a hospital and evaluated a second time and the physician has to approve the 302 one final time in order for the individual to receive inpatient treatment. We run into issues where we recommend inpatient treatment but it gets denied somewhere along the system. It's very frustrating and sometimes heartbreaking when we know they need the treatment.
@treysirius7414
@treysirius7414 2 күн бұрын
They Always Wait Until the Tragedy Comes 💯🤷🏽‍♂️
@cryptidonstrike
@cryptidonstrike 2 жыл бұрын
The cops showed up, joked that Trevor should teach them his ways (because he’s so rich), left without doing their jobs, then acted baffled when something bad happened. Great work everyone
@gavin1980
@gavin1980 2 жыл бұрын
im sure you are perfect - congrats , the parents are to blame they failed their son by allowing his manic episodes to get to that stage without ever stepping in
@AJWRAJWR
@AJWRAJWR 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great work to you too.
@jaden3651
@jaden3651 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavin1980 do the boots taste good?
@bushcatbandit2566
@bushcatbandit2566 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaden3651 ok I don’t agree with that comment, but what?
@bushcatbandit2566
@bushcatbandit2566 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaden3651 What the actual fuck does that even mean?
@Elzluv8
@Elzluv8 2 жыл бұрын
The parents literally begged the police to take their son. They even got a professional to help corroborate their concerns. Honestly I blame the police. How did the police watch him violently lunge towards someone while speaking incoherently and say “yeah it’s not that deep. Just wait a month and legally chuck him out the house.”?? I’m speechless. I feel so sorry for the mother and daughter that lost their lives. Their family must have felt so sick.
@justafanofnerdculture7602
@justafanofnerdculture7602 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything that you stated 100%.
@gregutz4284
@gregutz4284 2 жыл бұрын
Not the job of the police.
@DroneStrike1776
@DroneStrike1776 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to progressive California.
@tylerk6206
@tylerk6206 2 жыл бұрын
The cops should be held legally responsible for the death of all three people. They need to be in jail. If they want to be cops, there should be consequences for not doing a good enough job
@thefallenangelina
@thefallenangelina 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Plus the way he was clapping inappropriately and the Dad had to tell him it wasn't the time for that. Like come on.
@MartHommes
@MartHommes Жыл бұрын
I actually didn't know truly how tragic this story was. I was in my late teens at the time and just got out of my CS:GO phase but i did watch some CS:GO content from time to time after that. All i remembered hearing was that it just was an unfortunate accident with no one at fault. Up until i watched this video i had no idea it turned out to be such a tragic event
@katiebazzy3017
@katiebazzy3017 11 ай бұрын
Shame on the police in this situation. To joke and say “he needs to teach me his ways”. Yeah, he’s 18 years old and you are on a psych call. He’s definitely someone that you want to learn from, not. The police absolutely had enough information to put him into a 72 hour hold. I’m an RN and I’ve seen patients get put into 72 hour hold by the police for a lot less.
@Bulls_Aye
@Bulls_Aye 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the city had the guts to blame McSkillet's parents is absolutely disgusting. They tried everything to get their son evaluated, but the police laughed at their face. They are the ones to blame.
@evandaymon8303
@evandaymon8303 2 жыл бұрын
This whole he has to meet a criteria bullshit is really stupid. Like seriously stupid. If someone really concern you just do it anyways investigate it. You wonder why most people in the states hate cops.
@logy650
@logy650 2 жыл бұрын
This is the state of mental health in the “western world” at large unfortunately. Everywhere seems to have zero legal responsibility to do anything about the problem.
@michelleliddle3488
@michelleliddle3488 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and he may look like a grown man, and legally be an adult, but he was EIGHTEEN ffs. His poor brain couldn't process everything that had happened to him in such a short space of time.
@teebobaggins
@teebobaggins 2 жыл бұрын
America's finest city.
@investigate311comittee
@investigate311comittee 2 жыл бұрын
@@teebobaggins America's homeless tweaker border drugs poop sidewalk city. Oh well at least it's sunny here durrrpdeeerrrrp
@kiarah5602
@kiarah5602 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that that officer literally joked, “He’s got to teach me his ways” to an obviously distressed father, already set the tone that they weren’t in any capacity professional or taking this seriously because how could a 18 year old that bought his own McLaren need mental help? They were more interested in the car initially- I cannot. Edit: His father even had to say, “Not right now” in response to that idiotic comment about being taught his ways.
@rosenoel
@rosenoel 2 жыл бұрын
If I was the parent, I would have told them flatly "Not appropriate, Officer." With a stress to Officer. Since someone is supposed to be professional while there's a mental health call.
@cvgodd1432
@cvgodd1432 2 жыл бұрын
Yea this is how a lot of cops are... very cocky and joking around when it’s something very serious. Just imagine what they say when the cameras are off. The US needs to make it harder to become a police officer, I personally know people who became cops. That have no business carrying a gun and enforcing laws! Most police departments have a bunch of idiots running around enforcing laws they can’t even spell. It amazes me how other smaller countries require so much more to become police officers as the US barely does a physical test to see if they’re fit enough to run and jump over a gate. They might do it one time and that’s it, I was in Portugal and the Police looked like they just left the army. Everyone was in shape and actually cared about the people they were helping.
@Retrohhhh
@Retrohhhh 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosenoel that’s a great way to get them to antagonize you and do their absolute best to make sure you don’t get what you want 👍
@DR-nh6oo
@DR-nh6oo 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately all too commonly people mistake glitter and cash for integrity.
@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951
@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951 2 жыл бұрын
@@cvgodd1432 while everything you are saying is true, and I don't disagree, we still need decent people to apply in the first place. Where I am police have gotten such a bad reputation that no one even wants to be a cop. If you want to make a difference you pick any of the other several well respected and in many ways safer profession. So the few still applying are at best looking for a paycheck with benefits that you don't have to go to college for. At worst well let's not even go there....
@Lostloz
@Lostloz 5 ай бұрын
Really interesting case. It’s cases like this that highlight the importance of mental health services and the nuances often overlooked in media reports. Thanks for digging up important aspects of this story. The ending was so sad, obviously because of the lives lost but also, in my opinion, because it could have been avoided.
@519_jackpot_scottie
@519_jackpot_scottie 11 ай бұрын
This truly is a sad situation. Trevor was crying out for help & the cops did nothing to have him put on a psychiatric evaluation. Prayers to both families & friends.
@Obi7Haki
@Obi7Haki 10 ай бұрын
He still had no right to go and take two lives with him. I have no sympathy for him after that
@CaseyRedgrave
@CaseyRedgrave 10 ай бұрын
@@Obi7Haki not his fault that no one ( besides his parents ) took his problems seriously and just shrugged them off. Dude needed help, never got it and look what happened. Dude just snapped. It's a sad situation all around.
@smolivesmolive2798
@smolivesmolive2798 10 ай бұрын
You can agree that he was failed by the service and not feel sorry for him
@CaseyRedgrave
@CaseyRedgrave 10 ай бұрын
​@@smolivesmolive2798 To a certain extent- I do feel bad for him, he was crying for help and no one took it seriously. While it is true that he is at blame for the deaths of the mother and daughter, he is not alone to blame. Their blood, along with his, is on the hands of the police and rest who refused to take the situation seriously. This could've been easily avoided.
@Obi7Haki
@Obi7Haki 9 ай бұрын
@@CaseyRedgrave not his fault, after he taking two lives? Tell that to the mother and daughter’s family. Go on sir, tell ‘em. See how they feel.
@mellmurder
@mellmurder 2 жыл бұрын
"why didnt someone see the signs and act sooner?!" Here they did, and it still didn't matter. Mental health needs to be taken more seriously, BEFORE the crime is committed.
@Mandy-Lee
@Mandy-Lee 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and with all the school shootings, it's not something to ignore.
@justafanofnerdculture7602
@justafanofnerdculture7602 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mandy-Lee I agree wholeheartedly.
@mariakelly90210
@mariakelly90210 2 жыл бұрын
The way the laws on involuntary psychiatric hospitalization are set up in the US, it is VERY hard to get someone with a severe mental illness put on a hold, especially if the person refuses treatment. Also, the phrase "a danger to themselves or others" (the reason for making the hold request) is often misinterpreted by the authorities. So a lot of the time nothing will be done until someone is severely injured and/or killed.
@Mandy-Lee
@Mandy-Lee 2 жыл бұрын
Well instead of this huge argument about gun control, I wish they would focus on mental health. Seems like the way to go to save lives.
@spacerat111
@spacerat111 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariakelly90210 this. I have a relative with serious issues. It's next to impossible to get someone involuntarily committed. Especially if they are smart enough to not talk about crazy stuff in front of the cops.
@karastired
@karastired 2 жыл бұрын
"The city says the parents should have acted sooner." Ah, yes. I'm sure it would have made a huge difference if the police had ignored their pleas for help the week before instead.
@quartz14girl
@quartz14girl 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this.
@seangildersleeve1270
@seangildersleeve1270 2 жыл бұрын
Literally this. They wouldn't have done anything before. When his parents and someone who is a psychiatrist and knows him says he needs help, perhaps just speak to him?!
@tracykluse5055
@tracykluse5055 2 жыл бұрын
california for ya.... pfffffff awful
@thomasunderwood5780
@thomasunderwood5780 2 жыл бұрын
You guys seem to forget our rights in America, a police officer cannot just detain you for no reason if you’re 18+ which he was parents can’t control what happens with him, the police couldn’t do anything there
@vrjanice2
@vrjanice2 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasunderwood5780 That's not true. It happens all the time. In New York a car cut off a mailman as he walked to his truck while they were speeding. The mailman yelled slow down. It turns out the people in the vehicle were plain clothes police officers. They had no reason to detain him but they did. They said he was resisting arrest. Everybody had their phones out filming. Of course he was not. He had committed no crime when he yelled to them to slow down. They left the postal truck unlocked and wide open when they took him to precinct. Since he was a federal government employee just doing his job their heads rolled. They were used to doing what they did but they finally did it to the wrong person.
@fvg
@fvg Жыл бұрын
I worked with Trevor for a brief time on some advertising stuff. He was one of the first big creators to reach out to me when my channel was growing to give me some work and help me grow. Bro gave me my first big paycheck in the CS:GO industry. Really shitty how he went out, but he was a nice kid. Rest easy bro
@pattimaeda6097
@pattimaeda6097 5 ай бұрын
Stop calling a murderer “bro”
@fvg
@fvg 5 ай бұрын
@@pattimaeda6097 eat sand
@dukenukem69
@dukenukem69 3 ай бұрын
​@@fvgeat your bros charred corpse
@Rayroblox
@Rayroblox 3 ай бұрын
@@pattimaeda6097 eat dirt
@dthomason119
@dthomason119 Жыл бұрын
I live in San Diego, and I knew nothing about this case, but was effected by the accident when coming home from work that day; I was so far behind the crash, I didn’t know what happened. Very sad all around. My thoughts and prayers are with the families that lost their loves ones to the action of McSkillet (mental) and SDPD (incompetence).
@glendamccarty5605
@glendamccarty5605 2 жыл бұрын
Although the neighbor wasn’t Trevor‘s doctor, she was an expert in her field and the cops just dismissed her opinion, and they didn’t listen to Trevor‘s parents who probably knew Trevor better than anybody on the planet
@megami.x
@megami.x 2 жыл бұрын
They COMPLETELY tunnel visioned from the start on their assumption that she was like a dramatic Karen just causing drama in the neighborhood or some thing. Because of that all they did was argue with her in the driveway instead of actually listen to the parents or actually attempt to even interact with Trevor to see if he fit their “criteria“. I cannot comprehend it.
@skelpyr
@skelpyr 2 жыл бұрын
if dr. rusher was male, they probably would've taken him in for evaluation :-)
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp 2 жыл бұрын
You could hear from the start they were eager to dismiss it. I wonder, were they just upset they actually had to do a meaningful job that day? Did they let their own favorite narratives regarding mental health get in the way of an actual evaluation of the actual situation? I guess we'll never know.
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 2 жыл бұрын
Having the cops deal with mental health crises is about as much sense as if we made plumbers work as tax attorneys.
@mickflury
@mickflury 2 жыл бұрын
In California "A police officer, a mental health professional, or a person who is a licensed member of a crisis team." all have the right to call a 5150 and it would be illegal for these officers not to do so under that recommendation. so very sad.
@Misskittyclimber
@Misskittyclimber 2 жыл бұрын
He gave SO much warning, reached out for help, he told people he wasn’t ok and that he was worried over his thoughts. His parents BEGGED the cops to help and they did nothing. Who else is shocked over their lack of action?😬
@Cat-tg8nk
@Cat-tg8nk 2 жыл бұрын
That’s America for you
@Misskittyclimber
@Misskittyclimber 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cat-tg8nk you are not wrong 🙃
@JamesSmith-ny2gb
@JamesSmith-ny2gb 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not, cops especially American ones are useless
@Ocyla
@Ocyla 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a citizens police academy and 2 things I picked up that sucked. 1. there are so many crimes that they only focus on the stupid horrible obvious ones and 2. half of the time it goes to court and just gets dismissed.
@meap6474
@meap6474 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm sadly not shocked. So many horrible events happen due to police not taking action, looks at the recent school shooting in Texas for example
@MiaD666
@MiaD666 11 ай бұрын
I hope those cops who mishandled this are being haunted by the innocent victims.
@sarthakpatel3080
@sarthakpatel3080 2 жыл бұрын
The police were incredibly incompetent. Trevor was asking for help, his parents were asking for help, even a board certified psychiatrist was telling them Trevor is a danger to society and yet the police ignored all that. Also the audacity of the city to blame the parents. Trevor and those two officers are to blame for the loss of two innocent lives. Trevor knew there was something wrong with him and he was looking for help and the people that are supposed to him help, the police, completely ignored him and the pleas of everyone around him.
@marycarter6134
@marycarter6134 2 жыл бұрын
What did his parents do? When their boy was crying and breaking down, they did zero. They lived with him and didn't do anything. But you're putting the blame on police who didn't even know him and had to abide by certain rules.
@bodarkghost1864
@bodarkghost1864 2 жыл бұрын
Parents should of taking him to a physiologist they had the money
@TaiAngel01
@TaiAngel01 2 жыл бұрын
@@marycarter6134 What if they did and got the SAME answer? He hasn't done anything YET....
@gregutz4284
@gregutz4284 2 жыл бұрын
Not the job of the Police. At the time the young man was not a criminal, what are they supposed to do?
@tbarber742
@tbarber742 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregutz4284 the job of police should be emphasized as prevented crime. Unfortunately it isn’t that way, but one way that we could better reach that goal is taking mental health more seriously. This was entirely preventable had he been mentally evaluated.
@NehNehNehNeh42
@NehNehNehNeh42 2 жыл бұрын
These parents literally called the cops and reached out to a mental health professional. Do y’all realize how many parents wouldn’t go that far because they feel that they could fix it on their own? And here they are doing this? The police are to blame. The way they “joked” towards his dad knowing the extent of the call, the distress of his parents… they’re incompetent. They could of helped
@bigpun7916
@bigpun7916 2 жыл бұрын
True , also parents are reluctant to call police on a loved one because they are afraid the police will show up and shoot their child.
@readilium3432
@readilium3432 2 жыл бұрын
Yea we should get rid.of our own guns and let these stupid cops "keep us safe"
@Depths17
@Depths17 Жыл бұрын
Mental health is no joke
@bigpun7916
@bigpun7916 Жыл бұрын
@@Depths17 agreed ,Mental health issues affect us all , and people immediately blame guns , look at the Uvaldi texas shooting , that gun didnt walk into that school by itself and start shooting . Kid was mentally ill. Again everyone is focussing on the fire arm.
@KirstenMarie_MS3
@KirstenMarie_MS3 Жыл бұрын
It's more so the laws that govern police actions that are at fault. Without a crime or signatures of two licensed psychiatrists there's nothing the police can do, even if they wanted to. It's ridiculously difficult to get an order for a psych commitment from a judge for a person with no documented history of causing harm to others or themselves. The most you can get on word of mouth is a welfare check.
@heatherreddish9286
@heatherreddish9286 9 ай бұрын
I liked this video being different. I just recently found your channel and I have watched quite a lot. It is so sad how this turned out for both families involved.
@derekvanlimbeek9588
@derekvanlimbeek9588 Жыл бұрын
I remember this happening, was so crazy. I used to watch his videos all the time, hearing about this was truly upsetting. Couldn't imagine what his and his victims family's had to go through after this all.
@Sid-MMA
@Sid-MMA 2 жыл бұрын
How on earth can the parents be blamed for anything.... these parents have my utmost sympathy and respect.
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 Жыл бұрын
Because nobody wants to be the bad guy so blame someone else
@TheMary0831
@TheMary0831 Жыл бұрын
I have to question parents that allow their kids, with undeveloped minds, to spend all their time in fantasy land online.
@findthebox8623
@findthebox8623 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMary0831 that is 60% of the population including me
@TheMary0831
@TheMary0831 Жыл бұрын
@@findthebox8623 Well good luck with however your kids turn out then I guess.
@GeoffInfield
@GeoffInfield Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@littlefishiesinthese
@littlefishiesinthese 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that conversation between the police and his rightfully concerned parents is just INFURIATING.
@raidtard
@raidtard 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that, but in some cases they could have taken someone that would not fit the criteria and then the police would be to blame. there is no right move here. either you follow the rules and you're in the wrong, or don't follow the rules and you're still wrong
@evandaymon8303
@evandaymon8303 2 жыл бұрын
I still find that bullshit especially when you heard the phone call to police by someone who is concerned about someone mental health.
@blujaebird
@blujaebird 2 жыл бұрын
@@raidtard better safe than sorry. Unfortunately now they have to be sorry.
@raidtard
@raidtard 2 жыл бұрын
@@blujaebird I get it, in this case it was a sad decision from the police. But imagine that it was a different situation and was some girl mad at his boyfriend and calls the police on him and get him taken. I get it about the better fmsafe than sorry, but it won't apply for everyone
@poojanpatel2437
@poojanpatel2437 2 жыл бұрын
Police were just following the rules and law. Its no one’s fault.
@jonathanmoore7711
@jonathanmoore7711 9 ай бұрын
God bless the family of those the mother and her daughter, two beautiful lives with so much more to live. Rest in peace two beautiful souls.
@internetstripper
@internetstripper 6 ай бұрын
I’m nauseous. Everything here was avoidable. This poor boy was falling apart, he was too young to be going through something so adult and he needed help but officials failed him and the families of all involved. The two victims involved… that brought me to my knees. How painful and tragic, a therapist who would understand him. I know in death that woman understands him. But god. Why does shit like this happen?
@chrisbaker5568
@chrisbaker5568 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the state tried suing the parents for “not acting sooner” is just mind boggling when you see body cam of them asking for help and the cops just wanted to know how to make 4million in 10months smh
@johannas.l.brushane2518
@johannas.l.brushane2518 2 жыл бұрын
It's so retarded. Severe mental illness may not show serious symptoms long beforehand and not being possible to act sooner, they did what was within their available legal means but was told that the mom could move out for the month it takes to evict her hallucinating and deaththreat throwing son out on the street.
@hus390
@hus390 2 жыл бұрын
They indeed didn't acted sooner. They called the cops they day he killed himself and two innocent people. If the police forced him to go somewhere, without consent or any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
@aintshecool
@aintshecool 2 жыл бұрын
@@hus390 Untrue. The parents acted as soon as they saw he was a danger to himself or others. They were sure that something bad was gonna happen soon and that’s why they called the cops. He was 18 and that was the only way they could get him help LEGALLY. The cops failed in their job. A 5150 required them to evaluate this kid, make sure he wasn’t a danger to himself or others, and if he was, get him to a hospital and THEN leave the scene. They did the opposite. They were concerned with his car more than his life and that’s why he and two other innocent people are dead. This kid was not mentally well enough to know right from wrong, his parents were bound by law which stated they couldn’t involuntarily commit him because he was an adult, the psychiatrist friend could only give her personal recommendation because she wasn’t caring for him professionally. So who else is there to blame? Nobody other than the cops.
@alucard6919
@alucard6919 2 жыл бұрын
@@hus390 Yea, they didn't force him to go and look what happened? Potential lawsuit looking a little better now doesn't it?
@Jinx11z
@Jinx11z 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot force someone into services. Involuntary in-service is not enacted until someone is in full blown crisis. So no its not surprising that the state didn't respond until the point of no return. I work in the field and have a certification through the BACB and the MACBO. I have call the police with clients in such intense crisis blood covered the walls and two separate staff went to the emergency room. Police are not equipped for crisis in any sort and often will not engage. I know this from multiple police calls. This is a failure on the state to not IMMEDIATELY react when someone is showing physical aggression and a clear mental break along with a family begging for help.
@maliciousfemale
@maliciousfemale Жыл бұрын
His parents literally did everything they were supposed to do, this is gut wrenching.
@youtubeshypocrisy
@youtubeshypocrisy Жыл бұрын
The parents literally didn’t take him to get evaluated lmao they tried to force the police to do what THEY were supposed to do.
@hocky-ham324-zg8zc
@hocky-ham324-zg8zc Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeshypocrisy he was 18, so they couldn’t make him go. wanna try again?
@lesnaidoo843
@lesnaidoo843 Жыл бұрын
​@@hocky-ham324-zg8zc u can't reason with trolls n idiots bro.some guys are idiots bro
@Magmagan
@Magmagan Жыл бұрын
​@@hocky-ham324-zg8zc I've been in a completely different, yet similar situation. I live in a country where there are less if any checks to take someone in against their will. I was falsely accused of being a danger to myself, I was taken away from my own living space (I lived alone) and was physically intimidated to leave and be taken for evaluation at ward. I could keep no belongings, I had no ID on me, and the place was awful. I was clueless, had to share a small space with people with clearly more problems than me. I was drugged against my will. There was nothing to do. I couldn't leave until I was cleared AND had someone pick me up. A woman there was cleared but couldn't leave because her son was "too busy" to pick her up. She was crying to staff so she could phone call her son and they would not let her. Honestly I think the folks at the "Flying over the Cuckoo's Nest" were treated better. ABDUCTING people with alleged mental health problems works in this case because we know the outcome. But for other people, it is a violation of their own physical and bodily autonomy. I can't bear hear doorbells or see police any more because it was a very traumatic event. Imagine giving police and crazy parents the power to abduct ADULTS because of "claims" of mental health issues. No. You need a court order. You need an evaluation. Otherwise the system just does more harm than good. I can testify for that.
@VroomTech
@VroomTech Жыл бұрын
@@hocky-ham324-zg8zc Apparently you don't respect ur parents anymore. I'm 28 and If i ever did that kind of crap my mother woulda smacked me across the face and pulled me out of the house by my hair and I would know I messed up. They did NOTHING as parents to stop him
@actuallyadog_
@actuallyadog_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for talking about Aileen and Aryana Pizarro. Often, true crime documentaries spend minimal if any time talking about victims, beyond naming them. I wept for humanity’s loss of the two beautiful humans, and I would never have been able to honor their memory without your discussion of who they were as people. It’s touching and moving, thank you.
@dontwakethedeadp.jankey9592
@dontwakethedeadp.jankey9592 2 ай бұрын
I love this channel and the way you tell the stories. I've heard the McSkillet story before but not all the info you've included. You do it with respect to the victims and people involved.
@thecosmicxx
@thecosmicxx 2 ай бұрын
I love that he honours the victims, so few true crimes channels do that, yet profit off their deaths. Most be so difficult for the families, seeing your beloved family member only known for their murder and nothing else
@Rayshaadjackson87
@Rayshaadjackson87 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the parents. They did what they could to get him some help and was turned away.
@koweedate
@koweedate 2 жыл бұрын
if you check on the other comments, they are still being blamed for it nevertheless
@marys1808
@marys1808 2 жыл бұрын
true so hard to control an adult especially when they are in a mentally unstable condition. Clearly a professional needed to handle him.
@journalaway4753
@journalaway4753 2 жыл бұрын
@@koweedate yes I dont understand why they are blaming the parents even after watching this video. they called the cops on their own son and were not given help.
@briafae
@briafae 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They lost their son twice... once when his mind slipped and another when he died.
@neylandsmaxims
@neylandsmaxims 2 жыл бұрын
“Parents should have done something sooner.” How is someone supposed to predict a complete mental breakdown? If calling the police at an extreme point didn’t work, what in the world would have worked sooner?
@lifeloverNorris
@lifeloverNorris 2 жыл бұрын
Idk how much truth was there when the police saying they could not help when the parents called, but it's really frustrating, and one of the police's inappropriate remark about asking their son to teach them how to make that much money in a desperate call for help by their parents certainly paint an ugly picture of the police.
@georgexanthopoulos3003
@georgexanthopoulos3003 Жыл бұрын
@@lifeloverNorris Those cops are the criminals here. They absolutely should be held accountable for what happened.
@jhtsurvival
@jhtsurvival Жыл бұрын
@@lifeloverNorris there is zero truth behind the police not being able to help. They should have detained him. They were within their rights to even arrest him for threatening bodily harm nevermind just section him... those police were just lazy assholes. My parents had to have my sister sectioned when she was like 16 or 17. I was 19 and came home and found her in a manic state at our house. All it is is making the person safe and getting a mental evaluation. Those police are 100% at fault for not bringing him to the hospital. Coffee house even read out the California code. The problem is that a 5150 didn't count towards their arrest numbers so it wouldn't help the police gain a promotion
@RedHeadForester
@RedHeadForester Жыл бұрын
It's like that Simpsons scene where Wiggum says: "Just show me the knife, in your back, not too deep but it should be able to stand by itself."
@marivipalomino6975
@marivipalomino6975 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Blame shifting.
@user-iu8ys4yt3c
@user-iu8ys4yt3c 2 ай бұрын
I had a psychotic break…..thankfully no one died. It is very real and you see and feel things that aren’t there. We as a society are woefully ignorant on this subject….peace to all
@ChinadollTwo
@ChinadollTwo 11 ай бұрын
The frustrating/scary part is that someone has to “hurt/harm” someone in order for the law to kick into action! People are literally breaking the law and nothing is being done; sadly/unfortunately the moment the victim takes it upon himself/herself to protect themselves, out of fear/anxiety,l/adrenaline, with anything they can lay their hands on, they get into trouble with the law!! God Bless & Be Safe everyone🙏
@ClurAvocado
@ClurAvocado 2 жыл бұрын
As a former police officer on MCAS Miramar in San Diego we had some joint jurisdiction with SDPD. They were notorious for not helping at all. Due to undermanning on their part. The individual in this story DID meet criteria for 5150. He met 2/3, danger to himself and others. You don’t have to be PERT to make that determination. SDPD didn’t want the extra work.
@matty6848
@matty6848 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they couldn't be bothered with the paperwork. I know officers who will give certain cases the wide berth because all the admin work that comes with it...
@tamponlolipopmachine
@tamponlolipopmachine 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the SD flea market....I use to live in o'side.... Oceanside
@CreativeCreatorCreates
@CreativeCreatorCreates 2 жыл бұрын
I used to live there in the late 90s, early 00s. Looks like not much has changed. I loved the weather and things to do, but otherwise am glad not to be in that mix anymore.
@candice_ecidnac
@candice_ecidnac 2 жыл бұрын
They were notorious, you mean. You wrote "they were nitrous"
@candice_ecidnac
@candice_ecidnac 2 жыл бұрын
What a shame that this could have been prevented had they not been too lazy to do paperwork and too indifferent to public safety to do their job. SMH
@bobcatred
@bobcatred 2 жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely infuriating that the parents and the psych friend literally called and asked to have him held because he was clearly not well and the authorities wouldn’t do it. We always talk about how people need to be aware and say something when they notice someone struggling with mental issues that might make them a danger to others (mental health is ALWAYS brought up when there’s a school shooting) but when someone actually does it, no one helps them.
@nick2316
@nick2316 2 жыл бұрын
How does some start struggling with mental issues? It just starts happening out of no where? Is it from drug use? I’m just confused about the whole mental illness thing. He just goes crazy because he has a lot of money?
@mariatorres5563
@mariatorres5563 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you 100% The system is broken & noone wants to try to Fox it...our elected officials should be held acontable for not passing the laws that need to address mental health & very importante "Gun laws" that we the people have been fighting for since like for ever, with all of the school shootings.....They like the money alot more than any one of us & or our familys...Blessings to you all from puerto rico with lots of love
@myunknownland9272
@myunknownland9272 2 жыл бұрын
They were impressed by his money making schemes. Poor mum and sister.
@babydriver8134
@babydriver8134 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariatorres5563 Gun law? He used a CAR!
@doctorquib
@doctorquib 5 ай бұрын
I was living in La Jolla when this happened and I remember hearing the sound of the impact from my apartment, thinking it was some sort of training exercise at the neighboring Miramar base. I found out it was a car accident but knew nothing behind what caused it, this is crazy. I grew up in Carmel Valley from 5th grade through high school and can attest that there is a ton of mental illness in that part of SD. A lot of wealthy people with spoiled kids that receive zero punishments for their actions. The PD there are super incompetent as well, clearly, as they have literally nothing better to do. Sad story
@BSG0005
@BSG0005 8 ай бұрын
You handled this case so well & with such tact. While definitely tragic for the victims, Mcskillet was suffering in many ways too & I love that you gathered as much. Mental illness is illness & is not a fun place to be.
@robbycatalina226
@robbycatalina226 8 ай бұрын
Great content and well detailed analysis of such a tragic situation! I’ve been getting off the 805 on Miramar Road every day at 530am for the last 10 yrs n never knew about this until now?
@dominicpizarro7411
@dominicpizarro7411 Жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian. Thank you for sharing this video and spending time to remind people of what happened on that day. Losing my mom and sister still hurts more than I can ever explain, but I am grateful they are not forgotten. -Dominic
@connoroleary591
@connoroleary591 Жыл бұрын
Very sad for your loss. It must hurt so much to lose such a good mother and sister in such pointless loss. My prayers and good wishes to you and your family.
@lj0727
@lj0727 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for your loss Dominic. I lost my twin sister 10 years ago and its a pain that never ever leaves you. Sending good vibes your way man.
@Vyansya
@Vyansya Жыл бұрын
Im so sorry dominic. I hope he sees this!
@ChikaJihyo
@ChikaJihyo Жыл бұрын
I'm so so so sorry for your loss Dominic. Stay strong, and remember there is always a light at the end of the tunnel ❤
@romeowandrainbow1040
@romeowandrainbow1040 Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss 🤍🤍
@katsy0c0
@katsy0c0 2 жыл бұрын
I feel awful for both families. Mental health is never taken seriously until it's too late. The police continue to be useless.
@lyricberlin
@lyricberlin 2 жыл бұрын
you think police are useless, you try and do the job. You wouldn't last one day
@beebee8217
@beebee8217 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyricberlin they would cause again they are useless. Do you realise how easy it would be. All I have to do is say "sorry can't help" or "that's your problem" and not get any recourse legally. We will last a day in their shoes their shoes are the easiest to fill.
@thanib7796
@thanib7796 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyricberlin Stop being a boot licker. The police were incompetent in this scenario and they're responsible for these deaths.
@socialmedia2674
@socialmedia2674 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyricberlin obviously the police was useless in this case.
@ennjaychannel
@ennjaychannel 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard a song about the fire service saying fuck the fire department but I've heard a lot of songs saying fuck the police, ask yourself why
@douglascoleman1252
@douglascoleman1252 4 ай бұрын
Their parents , mother in particular, were appropriately trained to make a diagnosis. Their apparent intimidation by the presence of the police was infuriating to watch. I am a physician well versed in the management of individuals in crisis and in my experience had the mother simply raised her "authoritative voice" of professional experience...i.e. simply stated something to the effect that their refusal to act was going to have consequences that would be laid at the feet of the police who refused to do their job, this tragedy could have been avoided.
@lenevee4925
@lenevee4925 11 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for the victim's loss of life. After the collapse of this young rich guy's businesses he appeared to cry out for help but nothing materialized from it. His actions doesnt fall under "murder 1" but he made a wrecklace decision to drive his car through the school yard then make a wrong turn onto a busy highway causing a horrible outcome. The officers should have detained him but they probably saw him as just another smart rich kid with "superficial problems" . The court records seemed to excuse his actions.
@Arkonu
@Arkonu 2 жыл бұрын
Even the parents were like "Please, help our son! He isn't well!" THREE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU THAT THIS MAN MIGHT HURT OTHER PEOPLE! WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED? Christ almighty.
@kimberlypoole5325
@kimberlypoole5325 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@MusMasi
@MusMasi 2 жыл бұрын
one of them a professional in that field it sounds like the police where looking for excuses not to, like oh but hes not your patient right?
@bartglowa6778
@bartglowa6778 2 жыл бұрын
THEY NEVER GAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES that’s why he wasn’t escorted. The cops were looking for certain words that had to be said Also ultimately it’s not the cops decision to take him or not / it’s either ambulance on scene or her doctor You can’t just throw someone in cuffs and forced them to a psych ward for 72 hours just because someone stated “he’s a danger to himself” without expanding on it
@ricesneeze7107
@ricesneeze7107 2 жыл бұрын
@@bartglowa6778 Shouldn't a licensed psychiatrist telling you that he's a potential danger be enough?
@bartglowa6778
@bartglowa6778 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricesneeze7107 no. She doesn’t treat him directly and to repeat myself - gave no specific examples or why he’s a danger I’m a cop and I talk a lot of crap about cops cause there is a lot of aholes that are cops But this particular scenario they did absolutely NOTHING wrong at all
@procioneintubato
@procioneintubato 2 жыл бұрын
The parents’ quick thinking and actions could have saved three lives, the police made sure that wasn’t to be case and two families have been destroyed forever. Disgusting how the city is trying to blame shift.
@Vaginaninja
@Vaginaninja 2 жыл бұрын
Define "quick"
@livaugirard3383
@livaugirard3383 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vaginaninja Imediately after they noticed he was losing his mind?? Did you watch the video?
@mjinba07
@mjinba07 2 жыл бұрын
Mental health problems - especially mania, if that actually actually was Trevor's condition - are often difficult to treat in the best of cases. Whether or not San Diego had a policy about it, police typically are not properly trained or oriented towards mental health assessment in the field. It's a mistake to blame them, or the city. What we should be doing, in every state, is FUNDING mental health services and facilities. But health insurance doesn't want to pay for it and neither does anyone else, apparently.
@marcushoglund5893
@marcushoglund5893 2 жыл бұрын
i mean you cant just randomly take ppl in because some one else says you should thats a slippery slope
@livaugirard3383
@livaugirard3383 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcushoglund5893 yeah except they had a licensed psychiatrist there with them and were not "randomly" requesting that
@lisalynnn
@lisalynnn 9 ай бұрын
I subscribed because you asked so nicely, and you have a pleasant voice 😊
@thegrowshow5940
@thegrowshow5940 Ай бұрын
As someone who watched and even waited for mcskillet videos to come out on a daily basis, it’s extremely sad to see how this ended. Rest In peace to the mother and daughter. Mcskillet, you ruined not only your life, but your name when you decide to go for that ride. And I don’t feel bad for you.
@carlaemerson1195
@carlaemerson1195 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving attention to the horrible lack of mental health care in the US. My heart goes out to the family of the Mother and daughter that lost their lives. And to the parents of this young man. 3 victims that day lost their lives and many more are left behind to try and make sense of what happened.
@PaleHorseShabuShabu
@PaleHorseShabuShabu 2 жыл бұрын
@@byoshizaki1025 When I was in my late teens, one of my friends began displaying symptoms of the paranoid schizophrenia he was eventually diagnosed with. Trying to reason with him was exactly the same as trying to reason with my father years later when he had dementia.
@plops993
@plops993 2 жыл бұрын
I work in behavioral health, and those officers should be legally responsible for those deaths. That was a very clear cut danger to self threat that they completely ignored. Professional negligence resulted in 3 deaths
@jubilee.x6440
@jubilee.x6440 2 жыл бұрын
Do we know what department this is?
@godxxofxxwar22
@godxxofxxwar22 2 жыл бұрын
They were just some people hating their jobs and blowing shit off. And **Thats why cops have to be more**, this breaks my fucking heart. I’m always team cops but these guys make it hard and fucked it up so bad and had every single sign to make a difference and ignored it
@staybent9380
@staybent9380 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@janeace426
@janeace426 Жыл бұрын
Do you know there's literally a supreme court ruling that says police don't have to do their jobs? (not trolling. It's real).
@gregutz4284
@gregutz4284 Жыл бұрын
Not at all.
@deedebreaux
@deedebreaux 11 ай бұрын
I am sorry I saw this case!!! I really am. I had to stop and pray bc I usually have an opinion without emotion, but this one hurt like hell!! 😢😢
@tameramares5785
@tameramares5785 8 ай бұрын
This story rips my heart out. It seems like such an avoidable tragedy. That poor innocent Mom and daughter. May they RIP. ....😢
@skreemqueen7520
@skreemqueen7520 2 жыл бұрын
As the mother of a 19 year old young man , this breaks my heart. It sounded like the parents and neighbor were trying very hard to get help. If Mcskillet had not shown mental illness before, I’m not sure how people can say the parents should have intervened before. Great work Adrian.
@williamwchuang
@williamwchuang 2 жыл бұрын
Some mental illnesses only manifest at adolescence.
@blankx15
@blankx15 2 жыл бұрын
Mental Illness can also be triggered by stressful event. Mainly losing his job/business.
@KOSMOS1701A
@KOSMOS1701A Жыл бұрын
i feel this is a prime example of when a licensed psychiatrist says "this person should be detained for X reason" especially AFTER calling 911 for a "I feel he is a threat to himself and others" claim, you don't just blow them off because they aren't a family therapist.
@jimbomacgee3499
@jimbomacgee3499 Жыл бұрын
As sad as it is, that rule kind of makes sense so psychiatrists can’t just go around calling the cops on people they don’t like or random strangers. But in this case the cops should’ve at least called a mental health evaluator directly to the house
@austinmullins6607
@austinmullins6607 Жыл бұрын
As I agree with your intent that is simply not how the law is written. Simply because you can’t jail people you want just because you may think something is wrong with someone. Being in EMS we see this often where people make false claims to get the out of their house etc. sucks that he actually needed help. They should have called EMS for evaluation and talked to him prior to disengagement.
@chomalen
@chomalen Жыл бұрын
The actions of the officers seems insane itself. Even if there is a conflict of interest, if a psychiatrist is of their professional opinion that a person is suffering from a mental illness AND likely presents a risk to themselves or others, there should be a legally-supported avenue to detain them (and psychiatrists wouldn't just apply this to their hearts content because the medical board would likely suspend them for unprofessional conduct and/or unsatisfactory practice). This exists in most countries. In fact, in Australia, certain public officers (including police officers and/or ambulance officers, who can also liaise with each other in the situation) can 'section' or detain under the Mental Health Act a person who they suspect may be suffering from an mental health disorder, even if this is based on information provided by a caregiver (they should generally observe this person to subsequently complete the formality of this submission), so that they may be formally evaluated by a medical practitioner, usually in an ED. I think this case almost certainly has the hallmarks of someone who is acute and actively suffering from a mental health disorder (or potentially drug affected, as certain recreational drugs or combinations thereof can also produce such a state) so it would be unfair to cast any aspersions on this person, not matter who they were as a person before this change in their mental state. Their reality appears completely decoupled from the common one that others in their environment share AND they do not have the insight to recognise this. The officers responding and their actions should be investigated. If they are found to have correctly administered their duties, then there is greater culpability on the systems in place to manage these situations (it clearly and evidently failed and is likely to do so again in the future in a similar situation) and the liability should fall here.
@taxiuniversum
@taxiuniversum Жыл бұрын
Dumb cops were just too lazy to do their job and searched for an excuse to go shove donuts in their faces while fantasizing about being able to buy a super sports car. 😡
@nomebear
@nomebear Жыл бұрын
Several friends and family members are now deceased at a young age because of apathy. A family member was in the Santa Fe shooting and almost didn't survive. Apathy!
@ashamon101
@ashamon101 11 ай бұрын
Speaking as someone who had a person very close to me experience a mental breakdown, this case is heartbreaking. You just feel completely helpless watching them lose their mind, and if you don't know what to do, it's hard to actually take action. (Things get further complicated when the person is over 18, since they are no longer a minor, and it's completely up to them if they want to go to a psychiatrist.) And when his parents finally did try to get help, the police just did nothing! It's unbelievable and unacceptable, mental health crises are serious, and the fact that they just disregarded the parents' concerns is completely negligent on their part. (Not to mention saying they should have done more sooner, when they were ignored!) As for the accident, I do think it should at least be manslaughter. His actions lead to death. Though if he was having manic delusions, then that can complicate it. All in all, my heart goes out to the victims family, and to Trevor's parents.
@sweetanila26
@sweetanila26 2 ай бұрын
This is really tragic. I wish he had gotten the help he needed. It seems that everyone who came across him except the police officers said something was wrong and even he expressed that to his parents. I think that his parents could have done more like store his car somewhere else or make sure he was not able to start it at least. My heart goes out to the Pizarro family. There was nothing the mom could do in that situation. So sad.
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune Жыл бұрын
His parents: he thinks if he speeds down the road the wrong way in his car he can teleport through other cars, he's already tried it once and its a miracle nobody was hurt or killed Cops: Woah, _this_ car?? Hes got a McLaren?? Sweet! OK bye
@Rapture582
@Rapture582 Жыл бұрын
Police can't arrest somebody because they thought some stupid shit.
@Zorayah
@Zorayah Жыл бұрын
@@Rapture582 Did you miss the entire section about PERT holds and that he was obviously qualified to be detained on those grounds, and that he had admitted to breaking the law by going 100 the wrong way in a 25? The police just couldn't be bothered.
@jessicataylor7174
@jessicataylor7174 Жыл бұрын
@@Rapture582 It's not an arrest, it's detention under PERT (psychiatric emergency response team). The police handling of this situation is unforgivable.
@user-us9mk1de9m
@user-us9mk1de9m Жыл бұрын
@@Rapture582 I mean they've arrested people for much less, so what stopped them this time?
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 Жыл бұрын
@@user-us9mk1de9m "I mean they've arrested people for much less, so what stopped them this time?" Smaller arrests are less paperwork and hustle.
@samuelzelalem3079
@samuelzelalem3079 2 жыл бұрын
those officers that were talking about how nice his car was and how much money he had instead of the important information his parents and neighbor were telling them should be ashamed of themselves. The two victims would have lived if those officers listened to his family and I hope they feel guilty.
@barryallenflash1
@barryallenflash1 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the cops need to be evaluated? Hmmmm.....
@onibabapapa2659
@onibabapapa2659 2 жыл бұрын
"he didn't break any laws" driving 120 mph in a 30 zone the wrong way is no crime?
@hus390
@hus390 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they should feel guilty at all. Nonsense!! If the police forced him to go somewhere, without any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
@mart14k
@mart14k 2 жыл бұрын
You understand the cops LITERALLY can not do anything. By the law- which they enforce, they can not arrest someone because someone else thinks they need to be detained… and tbh, thank God for that… In this case it turned out to be tragic, but the fact remains… And this is not coming from some cop bootlicker… I very rarely agree with police action. But lets be honest… if the cops decided to take a strong arm approach w this kid and ended up putting a bullet in his head cuz he lunged at them- they’d be on the stand defending their lives… and if the law says you cant detain someone that hasn’t done anything yet- they’d be going to jail…
@TiaKatt
@TiaKatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@hus390 It's literally the law where they are that they can do that. That's why they kept referring to 5150. And she does not *have* to be his actual physician, she was on site and qualified and they were required to respond to her concerns with significantly more seriousness than they did. But hey, guess they've got a lawsuit now, eh?
@plainjaneofalltrades3853
@plainjaneofalltrades3853 6 ай бұрын
Eileen’s family should sue the city. His parents practically BEGGED him to be taken away.
@TheRealJayguar
@TheRealJayguar 4 ай бұрын
I lived in San Diego at the time this happened. It was a total mess and so sad, (btw, its pronounced La Hoya), I always wondered the background of his decline. Thanks for posting this. well done
@mrsh1006
@mrsh1006 2 жыл бұрын
The cops were more interested in how the kid made millions of dollars in less than a year than doing their jobs and why they were called at the residence in the first place. And the neighbor, I hope she isn't beating herself up or thinking she could have done more to prevent all of these from happening. She did what she could even when the cops implied in their questions that she didn't know what she was talkibg about just because she hasn't seen the kid in a professional setting. This is insane.
@flipnap2112
@flipnap2112 2 жыл бұрын
what job were the police called for at that incident that they could've helped? they cannot arrest him. he needed a psychiatrist. the parents and family failed him
@jimmietwotime
@jimmietwotime 2 жыл бұрын
@@flipnap2112 they couldn’t force their son into mental help, so they called the police in hopes that they could detain him and take him in and he would be FORCED to receive help, the police dropped the ball on this one.
@bamagirlce12
@bamagirlce12 2 жыл бұрын
@@flipnap2112 I see you didn't watch the actual video, where in the police are literally who get called to involuntarily commit people for psychological issues. They're literally who get called for wellness checks. Now should they be? Nope, but that's what the US has tasked them with.
@malinasworld
@malinasworld 2 жыл бұрын
Like the other reply said, the police can involuntarily admit someone to psychiatric care, at least in CA. That was their job, Dr. Rusher even called it out by code.
@khaightlynn5295
@khaightlynn5295 2 жыл бұрын
@@flipnap2112 the cops are legally allowed to detain a person pending investigation, which doesnt require a crime since it's not an arrest and no charges are filed. It's a different kind of law enforcement, which is still public safety. The law here is CA 5150, which allows the cops to detain and escort any person to a hospital for a professional evaluation by a doctor, for up to and including 72 hours maximum. After that time, they are legally required to be committed to hospital by a clinician for further treatment, or released. Since it's not an arrest, there doesnt need to be a crime yet, just the concern of threat to self or others, which they had. The cops dropped the ball from the jump by not even interviewing trevor and observing him with their own eyes, instead assuming a lot and giving the bare minimum non answer of how to obtain a TRO / eviction. They didnt do their *one job* of law enforcement to ensure public safety hands down period imo
@armurph1102
@armurph1102 2 жыл бұрын
Those officers were so condescending when they asked the parents who bought that expensive car for him. When they found out that he bought it himself it was clear that they were somewhat jealous and suspicious about how a teenager could earn millions of dollars. Those officers are completely responsible for EVERYTHING that happened later that day. They are responsible for the deaths of 3 people
@doomed8071
@doomed8071 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder some of them are tagged as pigs! Smh
@cuentasecundaria7956
@cuentasecundaria7956 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking ACAB
@lannyduong
@lannyduong 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@RatBoyTriple6ix
@RatBoyTriple6ix 2 жыл бұрын
They not only failed the people who were killed, but they also failed Trevor who was clearly very mentally ill and not accountable for his own actions. Even in his state of psychosis he tried asking for help and the police didn’t do anything. His parents and neighbour even did everything they could to prevent the situation
@MusMasi
@MusMasi 2 жыл бұрын
they where probably scared of being sued by an angry teenager with his own money or something? like when they where questioning the psychiatrist, trying to find any loophole out of doing their jobs.
@richardlippincott8881
@richardlippincott8881 6 ай бұрын
Adrian, thanks for your great videos.
@jerilynnjensen1648
@jerilynnjensen1648 Жыл бұрын
Goodness! What a case. Thanks for sharing it.
@tara.c837
@tara.c837 2 жыл бұрын
It was almost as if once the police heard "he's a very intelligent kid.. He made 4 million in 4 months" they dismissed the parents concern of his mental health!! Blows my mind!
@christinejohnston8977
@christinejohnston8977 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you're intelligent doesn't mean you don't suffer from mental health issues... It affects anyone and everyone... such a sad and frustrating story
@EvansClan2009
@EvansClan2009 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely enjoyed a story where mental health was the focus rather than “that bastard” talk that only demonizes. He desperately needed help. The family tried and was blown off. Our system is broken and that car collision should have never happened.
@Vaginaninja
@Vaginaninja 2 жыл бұрын
"The system is broken" This trashole and his family had more than enough resources to get help. Look at his actions before his "breakdown," he was a douche bag. What kind of jerk buys a car like that? And what kind of loser millionaire still lives at home? He was clearly just a shitty person. Good riddance. It's a shame others had to suffer because of this jerk.
@fuyiman
@fuyiman 7 ай бұрын
Really sad story, can't imagine how the family can continue living through such a tragedy!
@mdowling4827
@mdowling4827 7 ай бұрын
I have personally seen a close friend go through this kind of mania and until you have seen it first hand you really can’t understand what it’s like. The other aspect of this which is far from understood is the persons’ lack of self awareness. To them, they don’t realise they are unwell. Their delusions are reality to them. So it’s very hard for someone in this state to be able to recognise that they actually need help.
@seanmolloy6188
@seanmolloy6188 Жыл бұрын
I think we should go back and interview those two cops and ask them if they still think it was a good idea to do nothing
@evryhndlestakn
@evryhndlestakn Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there's no such thing as accountability for the people that make the most serious decisions.
@Brother-Crow
@Brother-Crow Жыл бұрын
HMMMMMMMMMMM i wonder what theyd say.... what a stupid comment.
@lealtirerepairandsalesleal6801
@lealtirerepairandsalesleal6801 Жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps blaming g the cops if his joker parents would have done something sooner how bout that I guarantee the parents are going to find a way to sue
@fck20112012
@fck20112012 Жыл бұрын
​@Leal Tire Repair and Sales Leal the parents did try an do something did you even pay attention to the video they were completely blown off by the police
@Bob-kk2vg
@Bob-kk2vg Жыл бұрын
If it’s not terrorizing poor people, they ain’t interested 🤷‍♂
@katdragon6025
@katdragon6025 2 жыл бұрын
as a retired psychiatrist that treated the chronically mental ill(schizophrenia and bipolar d/o)this story infuriates me- the only time one of my petitions for forced hospitalization was rejected ended up with a suicide.
@HerveyShmervy
@HerveyShmervy 2 жыл бұрын
That's upsetting. You guys have the biggest say in these things yet the authorities won't take your word for it
@kingdele01
@kingdele01 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear about what happened. I can imagine your pain especially when something could be done to prevent what happened. Do you think the cities are just not willing to properly fund facilities for people with mental illness?
@KrinchiD
@KrinchiD 2 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking
@sknkpop
@sknkpop 2 жыл бұрын
​@@HerveyShmervy Police are shit when it comes to mental illness as a default. Involving them, most of the time, only aggravates the person experiencing an episode -- this is why so many people having breakdowns have been killed by police. Police officers rarely, if ever, understand that their presence is threatening, and that a person can respond aggressively to what they perceive as threatening. At the same time, police know that whoever they approach is not going to comply, and that lack of compliance makes for a day that most police simply do not want to have. So negligence on the part of police is a given. They don't have the training, they don't have the self-awareness, and they don't have the motivation. This is also not just a problem in the United States. This is true pretty much everywhere. Almost all interactions between police and the mentally ill end with varying degrees of violence. With regard to sectioning itself, though, this is a complicated topic and it shouldn't be treated flippantly. On this particular occasion, having him taken in for an evaluation would have prevented this tragedy, even if they didn't wind up sectioning him. However, what the retired psychiatrist isn't going to mention is how destructive sectioning actually is for most people. Sectioning does nothing to contribute to a person's well-being except to begin the process of gradually taking away their independence. Most people who experience sectioning consider it one of the worst experiences they've ever had. The person above may feel differently, but I will take the stories of hundreds of thousands of people across the world over the opinion of one psychiatrist any day of the week.
@NatureLover-62
@NatureLover-62 2 жыл бұрын
@ KAT DRAGON, please accept my deepest sympathies for what happened to you and your patient. The system is FAILING mental health issues as we see them becoming worse as our lives are becoming much more difficult to navigate. FFS, YOU are an Board Certified Psychiatrist and your clinical diagnosis should have been the ONLY opinion to determine the necessary actions.
@HenryTravels92
@HenryTravels92 11 ай бұрын
Imagine jumping to conclusions like most people did in this case. Abselutely discusting. He cried for help, his parents pleaded with the police and they ignored it. Shame on big youtubers who also jumped to conclusions, using their audience for literal accusations, especially Keem. He suffered hard, even a complete stranger at the school saw it. "something is not right with him". Yet noone helped. Tragic, waste of lives that could have been avoided. It is sad.
@evanrozsa
@evanrozsa 3 ай бұрын
Rest in Peace Aileen & Aryana Pizarro.
@cursed_etches8128
@cursed_etches8128 2 жыл бұрын
Mental health is NEVER taken seriously by police. Both my father and my brother have gone through multiple episodes and the police have been involved around 2 dozen times. If the person in question refuses to self admit or be evaluated there's nothing they can do, and who in such a state would ever agree to either? Something needs to give with the system..
@sersastark
@sersastark 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that they're not taken seriously, they're not trained for it so they don't know what is and isn't an incident of mental distress. This is why the police need to be abolished and rebuilt from the ground-up.
@adrienkopish3220
@adrienkopish3220 2 жыл бұрын
Check out your mental health statutes. Normally you only need 2 sound reasonable adults who know the person to get a 5150/involuntary 72 hour hold
@catie1899
@catie1899 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely does. I have actually had to call the police on an online friend who was in a very bad mental state and thinking about ending his life. This was in Germany, though. (We lived about 700 km apart) They came with police, a few armed officers and a dog since he told me he had a weapon, and an ambulance. They talked to him, then brought him into the hospital where he stayed a few weeks. He was mad as hell at me first, but is doing a lot better now and I am glad I did call. I didn't go via 112 (911), but called a police station in his city. After I called I didn't hear from him or anyone for quite a while, but I was able to get the info that everything is getting taken care of from an officer I checked up with. They can't give any specific information of course, but it helped calm me down as well because I knew he was going to get help now.
@cursed_etches8128
@cursed_etches8128 2 жыл бұрын
@@AFDM007 I'm wrong? my brother was walking around the house with a knife.. the cops brought him to a local gas station for an hour to "cool off" and brought him back to the house right after. What's it going to take?
@oliveryt7168
@oliveryt7168 2 жыл бұрын
Dont say that. Of course there will be good police officers who will care about your mental health. Police officers represent all groups of society... you have all kinds of people who are police officers... they arent a "special kind"...
@whitrobinson
@whitrobinson 2 жыл бұрын
The police offer's lack of concern is infuriating! That poor mom & daughter! I feel so bad for all the families involved. 💔 Thanks for covering this case.
@error4159
@error4159 2 жыл бұрын
One was to busy trying to get rich then to care
@suzannebyles2939
@suzannebyles2939 6 ай бұрын
Very detailed and well structured episode. Always my go-to channel! ❤
@tannercoleman8652
@tannercoleman8652 10 ай бұрын
Great video, this happened right near my house and we were rivals with his high school. Just for the future it is pronounced La Hoya. But no worries
@shaldana
@shaldana 2 жыл бұрын
A little over 30 years ago, I suffered a manic episode very similar to his, and had my roommate not intervened, I would have killed someone that night. Mania is something that should never be taken as a joke, taken lightly, or flippantly with a 'get ahold of yourself'. My family was zero help and it took a stranger to realise what was going on. My roommate saved my life and I dunno how many others' that night. I feel bad for this guy. The anguish during a manic episode like that is beyond what anyone can imagine - and yet we know what we're doing. I certainly did. I just didn't care. I wanted peace in my head and had absolutely no idea how to get it, and would do anything to get it. That was a long time ago, and I survived. He did not, and it really breaks my heart that someone who was pretty much a decent person couldn't separate reality, and the police washed their hands of him. We need mental health specialists to respond to calls like this, along with officers. Lives would have been saved that night had that been the case.
@cdd4248
@cdd4248 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Mental Health Specialist need to be an active unit in every law enforcement agency across the country.
@A_Ducky
@A_Ducky 2 жыл бұрын
I get the manic episodes too.. meds, music, weed (legal) & keeping away from people except one or two max. Most importantly: knowing not to make any important decisions, deal with money in any way, nor drive. But it takes a lot to get the help you need in this country... unfortunately.
@poutinedream5066
@poutinedream5066 2 жыл бұрын
What a nightmare. I called the police twice to help when my teenage daughter was behaving irrationally. They were great, which in my city, is not to be assumed. They took everything I said seriously, they weren't rough with her, but they did take her (actually us, I rode with her) to the childrens hospital and they waited outside the examination room until she had been transported safely to the psychiatric location. I literally don't know how it may have ended without their professionalism and support. She was a tiny thing, but she had already left my brother with bruised ribs as he attempted to restrain her. They literally just traded blows. He had her boxed in in a hallway. She would kick him in the ribs and he would throw her against the wall, harder every time. She would hit the wall, crumple to the floor, then get up and deliver another devastating kick. He would answer by throwing her ever more violently into the wall. I finally yelled at my brother that I told him to restrain her, not hurt her. He turned to me and kind of wheezed "she's killing me." I couldn't believe it- she was actually winning the fight. That's when I called 911. She is a well adjusted 24 yr old now and it has actually become a source of family amusement, the time she beat up her uncle when she was 15. Even more impressive than the bruised ribs was the bruise that appeared on his back in the shape of her foot- like she had actually kicked THRU his chest clean to the other side. It's still a mystery- but I saw it. It was there for at least a week. We laugh about it now, but I haven't lost sight of how differently it could have turned out if the police here had responded like the ones in this story.
@catherinefulton4963
@catherinefulton4963 2 жыл бұрын
I read a comment previously that if you call an ambulance, or take the person to hospital, they are much more likely to get help than calling the police. The hospital will do checks and have specialists to assist, especially in child cases, the hospital has a duty to test and care for the individual, the police will just walk away if there is no crime being committed. But of course that requires the person to be willing to go. Glad you had help and are still here today
@novawilde2096
@novawilde2096 2 жыл бұрын
I'm bipolar 2 and have had only hypomanic episodes and even those are scary enough! People have no idea how much privilege they have when there blaming him and his parents after they clearly reached out for help, cause really this could happen to anyone... One mental snap is all it takes...
@jonn3041
@jonn3041 2 жыл бұрын
The research on this topic was unbelievable. I’ve heard of this case since it happened and I had no idea about most of the footage you showed
@makemosaics
@makemosaics 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy’s storytelling is amazing.
@carolkennedy466
@carolkennedy466 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving the facts. I really appreciate your hard work! So very SAD 😳😞
@sweetluvgurl
@sweetluvgurl Жыл бұрын
Wow, even in cases where people try to intervene, and see where things are going, it isn’t taken seriously until it’s too late.
@OneNiceKittyRightThere
@OneNiceKittyRightThere 2 жыл бұрын
There's lots of cases where at first the cops are like "well nothing we can do" then when a crime happens they're like "we should have been contacted sooner to prevent this"
@TonyGearSolid
@TonyGearSolid 2 жыл бұрын
What gets me is they completely brushed off an actual psychiatrist as if she didn't know what she was talking about, then go "whoopsiedoodle you should've told us sooner" when shit hit the fan literally minutes later.
@WildWombats
@WildWombats 2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason there's nationwide unrest about police lately. People feel they're inept, and constantly fail to take matters seriously when they should and taking matters that shouldn't be serious way more serious than they need to be. And it's true. I can count far too many cases where this exact scenario happened, all across the USA, and it's honestly sad.
@maskettaman1488
@maskettaman1488 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildWombats If they walked in to his room and took him away, you would be in these comments saying they're corrupt and had no right infringing on the rights of an innocent man. You're not here in earnest, you're here to spread an ignorant anti-police narrative. You're the worst kind of person.
@hus390
@hus390 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildWombats Nonsense!! If the police forced him to go somewhere, without any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
@hus390
@hus390 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyGearSolid She wasn't his doctor. So while her input is good, they can't shield themselves from liability had he sued them for unlawful seizure. Nonsense!! If the police forced him to go somewhere, without any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
@briafae
@briafae 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for everyone involved. Calling Trevor and his parents the villains is just not accurate. Mental health is a major problem. When your mind is that far gone you can't be held fully responsible for your actions. Then on the other hand two innocent people, just going about their day, lost their lives and their families have to live with that forever. Rest in peace to these two beautiful people who lost their lives for absolutely no reason...
@nathanlong8295
@nathanlong8295 2 жыл бұрын
This. The parents can't even stop the very issue that is his mental health.
@darrylmac6150
@darrylmac6150 Жыл бұрын
This story is heart-breaking for all parties involved that mother and daughter absolutely did not deserve their untimely demises and yet i also feel like Trevor was a victim too. To build such a massivly successful empire, and to lose it all through no fault of your own would destroy you. Especially at such a young age. A tragedy accosted to the modern world. The first time you get fired is from your own multi-million dollar company.
@chrisd3384
@chrisd3384 Жыл бұрын
How are you recording on your phone telling someone else to call 911?
@Digitalhunny
@Digitalhunny 2 жыл бұрын
When you are the parent of a legally ADULT child 18+, without police help your hands are tied! Those cops are 100% negligent for not interviewing that young man _before_ leaving the premises!
@elainevankat5353
@elainevankat5353 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!! So unbelievable.... those cops did nothing!
@jugglingthejenkins
@jugglingthejenkins 2 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked at how easily the police dismissed the pleas for help, and seemed annoyed by the psychiatrist. They instantly shut her down as if she were being ostentatious. It’s literally infuriating. Also… I love your channel, voice and consistency 🙏🏻 thank you for bringing us these stories and covering the heartbreaking content so gracefully.
@ipissed
@ipissed 2 жыл бұрын
So you would rather have the gestapo breaking down your door because Karen said so?
@Cheapphilosophysale
@Cheapphilosophysale 2 жыл бұрын
@@ipissed a psychiatrist is not a 'karen'.
@SamS-uv2ql
@SamS-uv2ql 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cheapphilosophysale Do you have a list of jobs that "karens" can do please? How often is this list updated and can I submit some jobs?
@therealdeal3672
@therealdeal3672 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the cops thought that a kid who could make $4 million in such a short time couldn't possibly have mental illness. Wrong.
@PhoenixRoseYT
@PhoenixRoseYT 2 жыл бұрын
Are you actually surprised? I’m not.
@richardbradfield7437
@richardbradfield7437 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an absolutely excellent report on a very tragic event that was, as I can recall, never on the National news in the USA. You deserve to be a highly paid journalist. Well done. I can only hope that the family of the two victims were awarded damages in the millions of dollars. If I was the parent of this boy, I would have given the victim’s family all the money the boy left behind. It also appears that the boy’s parents did all they could once they realized he was troubled. I can hardly imagine the difficulty in their decision to call the police and practically beg them to detain/PERT their own son. I can also see the Police side, since the boy was 18, and as an adult he is legally on his own. However, I think the police should have detained the boy based on the concerns of the parents and the Certified Psychologist Neighbor/friend. A very, very sad event!
@martinfarrington2416
@martinfarrington2416 27 күн бұрын
I just viewed this. I am from the UK and am experienced in all of those matters covered in your video programme. This carnage was completely avoidable. Two sets of parties shoulder responsibility to varying degrees. The parents and then law enforcement pre and post incident. Why the parents did not make use of the golden gift of their neighbour, an expert psychiatrist in mental health, beggars belief. They did not need to let affairs run so long. Their son was crying, pleading for help. Ask the neighbour who the best mh dr is. Call them and either take the son to them or have them make a house call. The neighbour may even have been that person. They arw clearly affluent. May even had had medical insurance. Whilst in the UK being o18 means that the person is an adult and no longer the responsibility of parents, there is a game changer. He announced that he was having a breakdown. He was a resident in their property. They had a duty of care. Once the police became involved they have a duty. They failed. They failed to speak to the lad which is criminal. They failed to listen to the concerns of his parents and astoundingly failed to heed the advice of the professional who provided the lawful reason for them to act. They never sought counsel. The officers neglected their duty and are culpable for what later occurred. The legal system in the USA is ........i am trying to be polite here, poor. Quite clearly McSkillet committed manslaughter, even by USA standards. The only reason I can think that the ever dreadful USA prosecuters failed in their job is something to do with the parties concerned and their social status. Reverse the wealth and I think there would be a different outcome.
@MilkPudding
@MilkPudding Жыл бұрын
His parents really tried their best. It's such a tragedy. :(
@VvvnimaL
@VvvnimaL Жыл бұрын
If they tried their best they would have got him to a DR and seeked medical help. Not call the cops. Cops can't just arrest a kid for no reason
@cadelfowl7724
@cadelfowl7724 Жыл бұрын
@@VvvnimaL you are not allowed to just... kidnap an adult and take them to a doctor
@VvvnimaL
@VvvnimaL Жыл бұрын
@@cadelfowl7724 police can't either
@Randomworldindia
@Randomworldindia Жыл бұрын
​@@VvvnimaL 🤣 police can atleast help idiot..
@Will-re5np
@Will-re5np Жыл бұрын
@@VvvnimaL well, like the video show, they could...
@infiresnation7430
@infiresnation7430 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a professional and being disregarded before finding out about the boy’s death and the death of the other two… the intervention would’ve helped a lot. And to make matters worse, the mother who died was wanting to work to help people in a similar way as the neighbor did.
@lean.2366
@lean.2366 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they must've cleared their conscience saying there was nothing we could do about it.
@Brotha00
@Brotha00 4 ай бұрын
@@lean.2366yeah. But maybe a new house would help too
@ataridc
@ataridc 2 ай бұрын
My understanding is it's very hard to detain ppl when they've not committed a crime. If the police felt there wasn't legally anything they could do they could either be wrong or right and if they're right then its an issue with the law rather than police not doing their job. Its frustrating. I've had ppl with psyche problems in my family and it cam feel hopeless when they won't do anything.
@siminmokarrami4799
@siminmokarrami4799 Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for a mother and her kld.😭😭😭😭😭 This boy needed help no one helped him. Beside that too soon he had lots of money that could not go to the right way. 😢😢😢
@allysonspringett9259
@allysonspringett9259 11 ай бұрын
New subscriber here. Very professional.
@Thefan
@Thefan 2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that the police had said that he'd need to break the law first - he had already admitted to driving at 100 into oncoming traffic in a 25 zone and they did nothing. How shocking that they have the audacity to blame the family for not acting sooner.
@that2.3literranger19
@that2.3literranger19 Жыл бұрын
I am a emt ( first responder) and he does in fact meet the requirements of a 72 hour hold and would have had the help he needs and in my area the cops would be held responsible for not acting in the line of duty. All of the cops should be charged with 2 counts of manslaughter. That is what would happen in my state.
@shaymorcormick8743
@shaymorcormick8743 Жыл бұрын
Cops once again proving they don't actually prevent anything
@trevthegamedev
@trevthegamedev Жыл бұрын
@@shaymorcormick8743 If we abolished all police agencies overnight, would there be the same amount of crime since they “don’t prevent anything”?
@shaymorcormick8743
@shaymorcormick8743 Жыл бұрын
@@trevthegamedev how about we take away their qualifed immunity and replace it with maximum penalty for any crime committedl
@trevthegamedev
@trevthegamedev Жыл бұрын
@@shaymorcormick8743 Answer my question and I will answer yours. You said they don’t prevent any crime, if that’s true then then you must think it would be a net positive to abolish all state/local agencies.
@orinorio1
@orinorio1 2 жыл бұрын
Trevor asked for help. His parents asked for help. Even called police. The law is twisted in cases like this. " we cant take him in he has to break the law first " mind set is shocking. The Police man who stood and did nothing most now life with the fact that two people died due to them not doing the right thing.
@jamesjameson4137
@jamesjameson4137 2 жыл бұрын
How would you propose we change the law? The idea that police officers could arrest whomever they deemed a threat even if that person hasn't broken any laws or been evaluated as dangerous by a mental health professional is extremely dangerous.
@glasperle77
@glasperle77 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjameson4137 if a person themselves say they need help and the surrounding people say it, there is no random arrest, but an aimed arrest.
@shortandsquare
@shortandsquare 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjameson4137 We have things like "Baker Act" that should have been used by the police in this situation. It is one thing to randomly arrest people they don't like and another when the family and friends declare someone is a danger. The fact a licensed therapist was ignored in favor of a manic person is the insanity. There are police departments who are taking place of the therapists that we use to have responding to cases like these. They have councilors who talk to the people to evaluate. Though they can't diagnose, they can take people to mental hospitals. This is very limited to better funded cities.
@jamesjameson4137
@jamesjameson4137 2 жыл бұрын
@@shortandsquare Yes, using a law like the Baker act he could have been detained, however that is a Florida state law and does not apply in California, where he was. They didn't "ignore" the licensed therapist, they just didn't have an option. And yes, I agree that there are better ways to do it and better laws obviously, but given how those laws didn't apply in this situation I don't see how the police are to blame as they did everything in their legal power.
@Nothingseen
@Nothingseen 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjameson4137 The THING here is that they did have the authority to do so. The psychiatrist who was there called them to do a 5150, which is something exactly designed for this where the police are allowed to detain someone to get them to a mental health facility for evaluation if there's a concern that they're a danger to themselves or others. Considering he screamed at his psychiatrist friend and then started babbling, and they were called there by his family and a professional, AND their response was "well, evict him," they just didn't do their jobs. This is, more often than you might think, the problem. The US isn't entirely full of shitholes that refuse to make useful laws. Often times when the cops don't do something you'd think they should, or do something you think they shouldn't, the problem isn't legality. The problem is often times that they're just not doing what they're supposed to and there's no way to hold them accountable for it.
@grap_e2545
@grap_e2545 23 күн бұрын
Heartbreaking story, not for mcskillet but for the victims RIP 🕊️
@graxian
@graxian 3 ай бұрын
I would be devastated if no one took my mania seriously when I have an episode. Shame on those cops
@KIP_KnowledgeIsPower
@KIP_KnowledgeIsPower Жыл бұрын
Complete stranger who approached his car immediately says when asked what he said just says “somethings wrong with him!!”…. How can a complete stranger have an immediate reaction & thought like that but the PD didn’t?? Even though he’d screamed & lunged at his parents & Psyciatrist making weird noises in front of the Police?? Perfect example of as a loved one, you can do all the right things to help someone but if someone in authority doesn’t do the appropriate thing, it’s all for nothing…. So terribly sad!!!! 💔💔
@rcajavus8141
@rcajavus8141 Жыл бұрын
Police saw a MILLION DOLLAR CAR and knew if he can afford a car like that he can afford lawyers too
@monkeywkeys3916
@monkeywkeys3916 Жыл бұрын
The PD needs certain criteria met to detain someone. That being said, they were given credible information that Should Have prompted them to simply ask him to stay in treatment for 72hrs.
@MsGhostofficial
@MsGhostofficial Жыл бұрын
Seriously!!!
@S.H.O.W.
@S.H.O.W. Жыл бұрын
The officers were idiots
@VaunShiz
@VaunShiz Жыл бұрын
​@rcajavus8141 not even close to a million dollars lmao it's a Mclaren 650S
@ragingdemon3127
@ragingdemon3127 Жыл бұрын
A pattern I’m starting to notice is how often law enforcement are warned about the potential threats these people are and them just shrugging it off.
@notDundi
@notDundi Жыл бұрын
To be fair - if they had to detain every lunatic on the streets, the cells would overflow within days
@elizegood7722
@elizegood7722 Жыл бұрын
“He wants to harm himself and others? Pfft, we’ll see about that! Give us a call when it happens, we don’t really prevent crimes from happening; that’s a myth!”
@moonysteps8064
@moonysteps8064 Жыл бұрын
​@@User-rka_zykx76 that really sucks. Good luck with that... Isn't there any way to get him committed to a psychiatric hospital or center or so?
@donskuse2194
@donskuse2194 Жыл бұрын
Or they show up and kill the mentally ill person.
@thelight5384
@thelight5384 Жыл бұрын
@@notDundi They were not going to detain him. They were supposed to take him to a psychiatric hospital for an evaluation. This young man was probably suffering from Schizophrenia which with the right medication can be treated and managed.
@CaseyRedgrave
@CaseyRedgrave 10 ай бұрын
The whole situation is sad and could've been avoided. Mental health should always be taken seriously, without proper help it can lead individuals to situations like this where people die. Police handed this poorly and didn't seem to take this situation seriously until it was too late. Mother and kid nor even McSkillet didn't deserve this. It's really sad that he was giving clear signs of having mental issues and they were just ignored or weren't taken seriously enough. I wouldn't blame his parents for this cause it seemed they did try, just seems like no one took them seriously.
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