trying to understand people like that is pointless, there are just some inconsiderate pieces of shit out there that dont care for anyone but themselves

It's the very rare chance to be destructive without consequences. As a youth, I always preferred to build rather than destroy. But there were many opportunities where some mindless property damage presented itself and I can attest there was a compulsion to just kinda, fuck shit up and expend some energy. It feels good and there's no replacement for it thats acceptable in todays society. Couple that with some anxiety-reducing drugs like alcohol and some people are close enough to the grey area that if everyone else is already FUCKING the place up, whats one fist-hole in the drywall gunna add? That part also works as a justification method in the mind of most people because "I'm not nearly doing the most amount of damage" is negating the damage done at all. And there is typically 1 guy who is taking things much too far, therefor, like 7 people can all have this same thought that 'they're not doing much damage in comparison' and then it all adds up to a lot of property damage. For the record, these are my observations as someone who as a youth was always bored and looking to do B&E's in abandoned places, restaurants etc. And every now and again we would have *someone* with us who just, maybe wasn't from the area and so they just would start fucking shit up and the 2 or 3 of us who had done this already multiple times are kinda like "wtf man". A lot of the time as well these people don't have as strict upbringings as the friends I have with more control. The ones with strict parents who were still down to go "do shit" AKA look for some fun, were already pushing their limits with a B&E.... They, as I, weren't interested in anyone even knowing we were there, and *getting in* was the enjoyment we got as was looking around. I even recall a fake $5 bill posted on a cork board and we didn't take it because as I remember saying: "What, you want em to know someone was in here? It's a fake $5 anyway, what are we, the shittiest thieves ever?" lol But growing up in the country with shit-ass internet and Antenna TV for most of my years was boring, so we biked around a lot and just *looked* for shit to do. Now, people who are in their late-teens/ adult phases who do shit like that, just never had the parental upbringing to understand the consequences of their actions and how they compound over time in peoples opinions of you, and legally as you catch cases. I don't know the answer but I highly suspect that a part of the problem is the before-mentioned lack of parental guidance, and strictness. Coupled with drug/alcohol abuse and a group of "friends" with the same afflictions, therefor propagating further situations where things like this can arise. Not to mention the financial drain which will keep them in whatever cash-cycle they find themselves in without discovering ways to increase their income. I dunno, guess im just thinkin' aloud here.... Babblin' on again like Babylon. Thanks for listening if you read this, I appreciate chu. Wishing the best for yall and im pullin for ya! So keep your stick on the ice: were all in this together! :D

It's called no respect.

shitty parenting

The same thing I say when I see graffiti on the walls😑😑.

big brain move

@@DyslexicMitochondria omg hi bro i love ur videos. Didnt expect to see you here

@@epicstuff7522 thank u for recommendation~ U just gifted yer youtuber a new subscriber

Cops: understandable have a nice day

*Cops and Tyler awkwardly stared at each other for a moment, before the cops turned again to open the door* Tyler: Worth a shot.

Michael was a JUDAS... He worked for the CIA!!! 😡

i saw on reddit he took his life recently

@@ricvondutch5715 Yeargh, and I saw Robin Hood stealin' BEEF at Safeway the other day too... It was COVER UP!!!

@@ricvondutch5715 ☮️💜

But he finally had it

Oh my God, that's so sad.

Oh no, that’s so sad 😢

Source?

Source please!?! I can't find anything online about him committing suicide

Source ? Would be very interesting topper to the story please

lmaooo i would love that place

I don't even drink coffee but I'd totally go there just for that 🤣

lol

Well it's better than listening about scammers (maybe).

I imagined it, and I laughed. But me, I'd just sit and listen.

Haha, that's very true 😊

appearance's change as the years go by

The meds and HGH change the metabolism. Thas probably why

prescription drugs+puberty+steroids+most liklely stopping some and adding new ones in prison

All white people look like somebody else

He was probably a sociopath misdiagnosed as depressed

Ayyye 772 represent

Yeah, the witnesses are always like: oh yeah, i remember that 5 years ago I saw a guy dumping a body In the woods, but i didn't think much of it 🤷

@@nicolemeneses3323 IKRRR Many cold cases have witnesses that dont do shit cause they're scared they'll be wrongly accused.

@Sean john I missed that part, was he really abused???

@Sean john he still was a danger to society, he was already so damaged that covering that up would have horrible consequences... Like, he only killed once and felt so proud of it in jail. That's like telling a parent to cover up for their child, cause it's their kid

@Sean john I was just thinking the picture was the kiss of Judah 😂 but he did the right thing . Judging by this video because I did not hear anything about his parents abusing him am I missing something?

I see it similar to "The Joker" movie when Arthur killed the big dude and left his midget friend to leave after pulling a "funny" scare and kissing him on the forehead when unlocking the door. But i hear ya. Thats why I respect everybody

@@chvIry just as everyone has a dark side, everyone has bright side that can enhance our worlds.

@@user5214 we live in a society

Looked like he had been up for days! One night. Must have been so surreal and nerve racking.

Thanks to him who called the police too.

I feel the same way! I was their neighbor. I lived on the street directly behind them. As a child I didn’t get along with Ryan so much but Blake and Mary Jo were good people. It shocked our family to our core. It feels strange listening to Adrain describe Port St Lucie lol is it true that Michael the friend that called crime stoppers, committed suicide?

Mrs. Hadley was so sweet dude. She was my secondary teacher at Village Green for RTI (if you even remember that lol) and I’d stay after school sometimes when my parents were both busy. Tyler would show up around there and I always got along with him alright. Shit was fucking crazy when I found out what really happened

@@jaybarbieri8619 No way, small world! She seriously was incredibly nice.

@@Jason-ml2px Yeah she was. Also hello fellow Cent 10 alumni! I went there for a few weeks before being transferred to LPA

​​@@nsanton7 Can you, or anyone else on this thread, confirm if his friend Michael died by suicide? That's what everyone in the comments are saying, yet I've seen no proof, nor this news being reported on any news source.

I was thinking about that too. I can only imagine how much medication or substance was thrown up soon after ingesting?

That’s what i was thinking. Not sure why he told anyone tho😭

@@tiffanybalcazar6531 I think some part of him wanted to be caught

It would be, if it weren't for the fact that his murdered parents were lying right there covered in his fingerprints and DNA.

@@CFbastar Yeah, it was most likely the part of his brain that did not rot from that melting pot of drugs that he was too pumped with as a child. I’m not condoning his actions of murder, but the poor guy didn’t stand a chance when his parents decided to pump him with drugs starting as a child.

It doesn't really work if you the only one who claims your parents are in another state while their cars are in the driveway. I mean it would have worked if he killed someone else and nobody knew he threw the party but the fact that he threw a party and his parents are literally in the next room dead is kinda a giveaway

Also you need to WANT.

@@mrenteryourname7409 Yep, can't help someone who doesn't want it.

Terrible. Sorry you had to experience that. He was a prisoner of his own mind and probably made into that by having been put on these horrible drugs do young.

This.. there's no shame in therapy. If you're taking medication for it at some point you might even be able to take smaller dozes or completely stop. Previous woman I dated had issues (won't go into detail, I still respect her) but couldn't deal with any emotions coming her way. Therapy didn't work for her or at least the one therapist she tried, I tried to help her .. to find people who'd listen to her & listen when I could myself. But there's a reason that doesn't last, in a relationship you can't fully take that role; especially when dealing with your own emotional baggage. Still feel bad about breaking things off, I know it sent her way down again and I felt like she was slowly getting better but at the cost of my mental health. The moment I need to see my therapist once a week to vent, cry & let it out is when I know things need to change.

I used to take medication for behavioral or "anger" issues since i was 10 and never went to therapy or anything like that. When i turned 17 I attempted to stop and i felt like my whole life was flipped upside down. because the medication acted as a sort of suppressor for my emotions i never felt the full extent to being excited, happy, giggly, but also never felt the full extent of anger, depression, anxiety, etc. So the first week felt weird for me but after that brief transition period every emotion i could ever feel hit me so hard I had no idea what was happening. I would get severe panic attacks because of how I was feeling. My social anxiety soared through the roof. My depression got to the point of bodily shut down. My anger became a hugeeeee problem. I didn't know how to deal with it all and because it made me feel not normal my depression and anger really became the worst it had ever been. I got introuble for fighting at school multiple times a week and outside of school and I would disrespect everyone I came across. But things eventually got better. I started therapy after three months of being medication free and I've learned alot. Im currently 18 and have been in no trouble or anything like that for 7 full months. Because im getting therapy for the negative emotions its helping me learn how to naturally balance those heavy negatives with the heavy positives. the very positive emotions that i feel when i can make someone feel better is overwhelming but great. It makes me feel very normal and loved.

Does ecstasy have that effect on people?

@@BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ya, it infamously does the opposite of make you want to murder your parents.

I was going to comment similarly. It's so insane to me that someone would have such dark thoughts on ecstasy. He probably had, in a sense, *trained* himself on drugs. This is completely not normal behavior.

Brain chemistry. His was messed up, so he didn't react how a normal person would on x

Yep chemistry.

But how would we know that part...? Tyler said it?

@@Maximus213 Did you read the part following 'because'? Perhaps you ought to pick up a book instead of spending so much time on video games which teach you nothing!

@@messrsandersonco5985 Compared to listening to murders via youtube...? Nice logic, bud.

@@messrsandersonco5985 And this is productive how?

@@Maximus213 true. But seems Tyler wasnt really lying. Everything else he said has been accurate, so assuming that part was too.

😂

LMFAO 💀

😂

Stop !!!! Hammer Time.

@Robert Mugabe Death happens...thats life.

That quantity, frequently, and potency of the medication they had him on melted his fucking brain. Your brains aren’t finished developing until you’re about 25 he was put on those drugs when he was 10. Ultimately it’s his choice to kill them so he’s to blame but not solely him, the doctor who did this should be stripped of his license and it was her choice to give him these chemicals… and ANABOLIC STEROIDS, it’s clear she’d rather let the drugs patent him and this is the result.

Usually those people that take RXS take them after their brain 🧠 has fully developed when they are in their late teens or older. And not when they’re 10 years of age and their brain is still developing. There are plenty of other options for a 10 year old to deal with his problems that don’t require drugs. Drugs don’t fix or get rid of the problem they only suppress it

Look, I've been on different medications for depression and ADHD and they do mess with you. Some can be way worse than others but its also up to the individual to recognize that and talk with their doctor about where to go from there. The guy deserves to be in prison, no doubt about it but I also acknowledge those meds could have taken him far out there and his mind was in a whole other place and once he stopped taking it and he sobered up I'm sure things became clearer. He still deserves prison time, I couldn't imagine murdering both your parents and then throwing a house party

Yes many people take prescriptions and don’t murder but you have to remember that everyone is praying for him right! I do think you deserve to be in jail for a very long time but I also do believe that those pills mix with the feeling that may be good then work through were a big reason why is my broke.

@@keeprockingit2018 wtf is that word salad. Are you on "the pills"?

He’s actually in a mixed security prison, ranging from minor to medium security. He just wants to glorify his behavior, he was signing autographs with “hammer time” and threw a party after committing parricide because it had “never been done before “. The guy is demented.

I was thinking he threw a killer house party...im an optimistic person

That's exactly what i thought.

I assumed he’s the one who killed the house party. Cynic here

I thought he would at least kill SOMEONE at the party itself

the “Parent killer party”🤣🤣🤣

Looking at pictures of him I got some big douchebag vibes.

I’m on all the same meds

Except the growth hormones or whatever

@@GrandMasterPeep me too, I'm currently on hydroxyzine, and I used to take citalopram. I feel ok, mostly, and I start to think I don't need them, I'm fine, but if I run out, I feel a definite change in my mood, I'm scared to stop taking them now 🙄

@@Kazza_8240 I definitely can feel when I didn’t take it I can skip maybe a day. I still have a lot of anxiety so I’d like to talk to my doctor about upping my dose or getting something else. I really don’t like all the comments about how medication is a bad thing because this kid murdered his parents and just so happened to be on medications.

I think it's a weird way to look at things -- we're nothing more than a sum of our biology and experiences. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it couldn't happen to someone else. We also don't know the entire sum of that persons' experience and what actually lead them down that path initially, or what role models they might have had that influenced them negatively/positively. And ultimately, it's not about feeling sorry for them or not. It is about whether those things being fixed could lead to less of this sort of thing happening.

I agree. It just seems that something happens that breaks these people. No idea what that could be, but they seem to just sink into a breaking point. Perhaps it is a mental illness, that surfaces under extreme stress

It is context. Everyone deals differently.

Many of us had terrible childhoods, and we don't kill people. Don't think that is a valid defense. We all make choices.

@@abixiexie7822 Well said

😂😂😂Riiiiiight!!!!

Exactly! Wtf? I'm a parent 25 years now, and there's no way I'd have done what his parents did, no matter what. Lethally dangerous attitude towards a young life. I'm not saying it's okay that he turned out in the way that he did, but I mean, just how much control did he have after all of that junk in his system?

Eh.......

That sounds like a very unhappy upbringing to me.

LOLL ‘when life gives u lemons’ was a person

This was a super interesting read. Thank you for taking the time to share! It's crazy how a misdiagnosis can upturn a patient's and their family's lives.

Awesome!!

I was thinking too starting out with no touching holding loving poor guy didn't stand a chance Thanks for your perspective it's interesting how things like head trauma can all have affects

That was interesting to read, thank you for taking the time!

Yes, likely highly exacerbated by her immediate remedies to his issues always being of artificial nature.

Tragic

This 14 year old boy from my hometown just murdered his 13 year old friend. He stabbed her about 100 times. His friends told reporters that he talked about stabbing this girl for weeks before he did it and they just thought he was joking.

@@VTPfirewolf1994 I heard of this . So terrible . And ppl love picking at me bc I’m well away of threat and weirdness (I can spot somebody a lil off a mile away) in very aware of things. I wish ppl would just out folks who say Scary crazy things before the worst happens. I’m very sorry to that poor girls family smh 13 years old

@@mknight993 It's almost a subconscious cry for help in my opinion. Like they WANT someone to stop them before they do it and when they make it as obvious as possible and get ignored.... They likely feel there's only one option left if they feel enough shame to "not want to make themselves a liar". But these people are often sociopaths who rationalize the worst behavior and have no problem telling lies that suit their prerogative. So two sides to every coin I guess. The real mental health stigma is that people with REAL mental health issues who go commit violent crimes are all but washed from existence because the rhetoric is to "not say their name"... So we never learn what causes this shit and we seem to continue the cycle over and over again and still wonder why. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for listening. :D

It reminds me the case of Trystin's murder, how her murderer had told people he was going to kill someone. Nobody should take that, as a joke. It is not and that should be reported to authorities.

PEAK BRIT ESTABLISHED

@@taiyoctopus2958 your entire existence is cringe

British moment

I laughed too much given the subject matter.

This is more British than the queen

I was a menace as a teenager. I couldnt really help it, but I still regret it. Love & miss you mom. Im sorry. 🖤

I agree

There are definitely kids who benefit from medication, but according to a psychologist I’m friends with, we absolutely overmedicate children in the United States.

Pharmaceutical companies are making an absolute fortune though, so it won’t change. They have so much influence- around 1/3 of the websites dedicated to ADHD for example are owned by these pharmaceutical companies. And this has led to around 3/4 of the Children diagnosed with ADHD to receive medication, which perpetuates their need for medication down the line, thus ensuring their business in the future.

Weed is literally so much safer than a lot of opioids docs put kids on, it’s criminal that they’ll put these kids on all these opioids yet the good green shit that don’t hurt them is criminalized

Sure is profitable tho.

Should be teach how to beat the crap out of bullies

It's easier than parenting for emotionally neglectful parents, unfortunately. Some people shouldn't have kids. 😔

@@mjk6949 yeah, bullies choose easy targets. No easy targets. Bullying is less likely. Bullies are first and foremost cowards

He was born a broken person. No treatment would have helped.

@@LaFonteCheVi that's not true and that's a very harmful thing to say to people who suffer from chronic psychological issues. He could've been helped, but not with the ridiculous medication mixture his parents were administering to him. The growth hormone surely exacerbated his problems massively.

I have had doctors try to prescribe my children these mind altering medications when they were young but guess what... I said NO F'ing way. Both of my kids grew up just fine, are married with kids and doing well.... with NO medications. They LEARNED coping skills. We seem to live in a world where people think it isn't normal to have some depression or be hyper or slow. Children are DEVELOPING people, they grow and change and you can't just give them a pill to change who they are, it is a learning experience and parents need to stop looking for a short cut.

Honestly, I agree. I think a lot of people are terrified of these kinds of drugs without realizing there is a balance. I started them as a child and know many others who have too. Obviously, medication cannot do everything and should be used in conjunction with proper therapeutic practices. It also needs to be taken properly and not mixed with other substances like Tyler was doing.

I don't blame the parents at all. I do blame the effects of the Rx's he started at 10. That then mixed with steroid injections caused his brain to develop "roads to no where" as I call the open over active nerve signals. His brain didn't know how to function normal then he drank and did drugs on top of that 😲. 🥺 so sad. But what's been done can not be undone.

Did the same thing with that chapter

✌ guilty

@@-redacted_by_youtube I did the same with both lol

same. watched all vids in 1 day "D

I started with That chapter, MrBallen, now it’s CoffeHouse Crime. So I have a decent series of crime videos to watch every week.

I really believed that antidepressants just make your depression worse. Edit: For those who have provided me with accurate information about antidepressants, I would like to thank you. Your replies made me change my perspective about antidepressants. You guys are right, antidepressants does work in general but not with everyone. I do not know the pain of people who deals with this stuff. Neither do I know anyone in person who takes antidepressants which makes this claim so half-assed. I apologize for saying this with a lack of knowledge and I promise that I will take the lesson you all have provided me at heart.

In 2010, a friend of mine's husband began taking Lexapro in spite of having prior suicidal thoughts. Two weeks later, he hung himself in the closet.

@@LauraVee63 I'm sorry to hear that

@@v3rm1nslayer13 You're not wrong. To be honest, it never worked for me so I stopped taking them

@@v3rm1nslayer13 antidepressants has helped me a lot. they don’t necessarily make you worse, but there’s a lot out there that doesn’t work for everyone and instead give you bad side effects. for some it works, for others it’s completely wrong.

J

Big Pharmaceuticals completely let off the hook, their role in helping exacerbate disasters never an issue, they control stolen governance after usury slave debt banking israel and global corporations.

Surely scared!!!

I know Whatchu mean dawg it ain’t easy but we here tho

Open up if you wish. We’re here to listen

Forget sparing us the details we watch this stuff to know the details

well, now you have to tell us the details.

Yo

@@dootdoot94xo44 Calm down there old man

That's awful, I'm sorry for your loss.

Same with my uncle. It was almost like he was experimented on. By 30 he'd left us.

Same happened to my dad’s cousin. Wonderful guy but was put on a ton of medication as he got older for minor health issues. Well, they mixed badly in his system and he ended up becoming extremely depressed and suicidal. Killed himself only a few months of being on the new medication.

Absolutely horrible to hear. Sorry for your losses guys. You have my condolences.

@TheMrCaptainStfu Yeah you already said that on other comment you geek.

completely agree. for people to blame the ones murdered is beyond me. idiots with self proclaimed medical degrees. big difference between acknowledging the damaging impact of so many drugs at an early age and absolving someone of taking others lives.

Why does every youtube video have one of the top comments of someone claiming to own/known/seen/heard or saw whatever it is the video is about. I smell bullshiiiiddd

Why u were hanging with drug addicts at that age

@@Ghost8321 shut up

@@Ghost8321 because nothing happens in PSL

@@Ghost8321 Well first off I never said I hung out with him, just that he stopped by, like said hey to me and my parents, usually when I was out playing basketball at my place. And I was like 8 to 11 when I'd see him walk by and at that age I barely grasped the concept of drugs or even knew what someone on drugs looked like as cigarettes where the worst thing I knew about second hand back then. I didn't grow up knowing about stuff like that until I moved out of Florida when I was 12

@Cringe-Gamer - he said he was a bit older and there says he was 8-10. You hanged with druggies at that age?

She was an absolute moron of the highest degree. She pumped her son up with every med in the book.

@Robin Latte I don’t know about that one chief...

Growth hormone is typically given at a young age. It’s the antipsychotics that kill me

It's not any one thing really, but the combination of the colossal drug cocktail he was on. Plus the fact that if he was on that combination of drugs and it was deemed medically necessary, he should have been observed a lot closer, for his own sake.

@@vladvladimirov4399 that is a disgusting thing to say. She wasn’t a doctor. She took her son for help. That is what a medical professional thought would help. You act like she was buying the drugs off the street. We don’t know how he was at home, like the whole story.

@Scarface Were you _really_ ?

Well, you wouldn't know would you. So it wouldn't be that weird. You could have been to such a party. Shit, I could. Maybe the *same* party.

@@wisdomseeker3362 yes he was

Or knowing you drank a beer with a bloodstained ping-pong ball floating in it.

Well you just wouldn't know, would you 😏, for if you didn't know, there would be nothing to imagine 😎!

Yeah, his parents definitely shouldn't have sought out that kind of medication that young and whichever doctor filled out the prescriptions clearly wasn't doing it for his benefit so much as to get his mum of their back. It was really irresponsible to give him multiple ssri drugs simultaneously. Even one was questionable.

@@casanovafunkenstein5090 one is not questionable at all, one is very reasonable, it saves more lives than it damages, the rare extreme symptoms are what they are, rare extreme symptoms, very unlikely, the same way certain people can die from falling from their bed, it’s possible but unlikely. Just look at the life changing reviews online for Zoloft for example, the abundance of miracle stories bury those one or two off rare cases. Stop spreading misinformation.

@@floramiller1133 any tablet is definitely questionable when the child isn't even a teenager. That's what I take issue with. There are times when medication is beneficial, I'm an example of that, but it's definitely inappropriate to medicate a child the way this specific person was and furthermore it's especially fishy when a parent is able to convince a doctor to prescribe growth hormones to someone who hasn't reached full pubescence and has no genetic abnormalities that would inhibit their growth

Yes, now there's a crime !!

@@casanovafunkenstein5090 I agree with you that simultaneously taking a large quantity of a large amount of different medications at his age or at any age really is not good. However at the time when he was depressed chronically, a small amount of Zoloft daily would of been okay, I’m talking a low dose daily for sometime to balance out and to stabilise his mood. That’s what I’m saying because you said that taking one is questionable, when given his chronic depression at the time, sticking to only one would of been okay, and more than likely beneficial. But his parents are dumb and encouraging and allowing him to take so mannny and completely unnecessary amount of irrelevant medications too. Hope you’re getting what I’m saying

Why?

@@deecee527 because it’s obviously a 12 year old commenting who either hasn’t had or doesn’t remember his bad hair phase

What does a hair cut have to do with any thing?

@@deeskman1549 cant take a joke?

some good content on ur channel

They can be a lot of fun. When I was 16-18 I would visit them quite frequently. But I would've never had gone to an open invite party. On the house parties I went to everyone pretty much knew everyone. There were no psychopaths on ecstasy present, lol.

Most are nothing like how they are portrayed in the movies, usually a couple people hanging out playing drinking games. Every now & again you'll come by what's referred to as a 'rager', usually in college/university areas. These will have more of your crazy activities & attendees. While in college my sorority (yes, I'm a female) would host monthly house parties but again, nothing like in the movies, they were usually pretty uneventful & boring. It's usually the uninvited people who start the trouble, create havoc & destruction bc they know they can get away with no consequences.

Out of curiosity, which country are you in? In some countries it's illegal for any non-government event, which can be looked at as a conspiracy. Is it a legal issue in your country or a sociological one?

In the US teens are not permitted in bars or clubs.

That's hard to tell. I don't think either of the medications would cause a problem. It most likely enhanced something that was already there and/or was taken in the wrong dosage. Adhd medication for example are often amphetamines, which can cause the same effects as "party drugs" when taken in relatively large amounts. Hormone/Testosterone injections can cause aggression. Being a teenager on top of that, can be a really bad mix. It's not like a totally stable person will become a murderer just by taking a couple pills, but all it takes is a couple minutes to ruin your whole life

Then don’t victim blame! She was doing what she thought was best for her child. She probably questioned it and felt terrible guilt but also thought she was doing her best

Agreed, of course I feel terrible for the whole family and especially the ones no longer living but it seems t me like the mother was to willing to give her son drugs, I mean my mom wouldn’t give me a narcotic unless it was life or death, I had gone untreated with ADD and I was an awful student but I also am grateful that she didn’t put me down that road mentally at that age. I mean hormones, anti depressants, and anxiety pills? At some point you have to think of the long term effects on his brain at that age

Maybe blame the doctors? How can it even be allowed to give this drugs to anyone under 18? Hormones on top of that? Bad judgement and very sad

For all you know the regimen of medications worked well and were needed and him self medicating with elicit street drugs set him off.

This happened to me. Guy killed his grandma and we all were entirely unaware

@@drifter61 😳 I wouldn’t object to more details on THAT one. That’s bananas

@@drifter61 mind sharing any more details?

@@drifter61 Oh my god. Thats horrible, I hope you are okay after that.

Scary

One word; money.

@@averyisaiah1 Unfortunately, yes.

It's crazy that it's even possible. In my country, there is a national health service and all doctors/medical professionals, both public sector and private, can access a central database of patient records. That includes seeing prescriptions that have been given by other doctors. It's unbelievable that the US is so against anything like this, even when it would undoubtedly save lives.

It is because of privacy

The legal drugs weren't the issue, I pretty much have the exact same thing going on as he had and I am fine. The illegal drugs and alcohol, which you are warned against using with prescription meds, are the issue here. He fucked himself up with chems. The doctors cared for him the way you are supposed to care for someone with thyroid issues and organically induced depression.

What? His mom took his phone so he fing killed her? Sorry dude I'm not laying that at the feet of a doctor who prescribe meds that work for 99 percent of people

@@aloistrancy9204 All of these meds do not have a long history of study for people without proper therapy, especially when combined with other drugs. At what point do you realize that these drugs just treat mental illness symptoms and not the disease itself? How long has to go on before people realize these drugs aren't miracles when kids are drugged up and yet their mental issues clearly don't disappear? I'm not saying they don't help people but they don't cure anything, but when 90% of the time, people with depression are still depressed on and after these drugs, can we really say that they're effective? They have so many side effects, including A GREATER RISK OF SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR, especially in minors. Maybe in controlled situations they can be helpful to adults, but doctors just throw this shit at people who say they are depressed at the drop of a hat in the US because big pharma makes so much cash on them. I'm seriously opposed to just drugging up kids during puberty, I've never heard a single positive story of people taking them, and they often get off of them regardless of whether they're "cured" or not. I'm not saying that the blame of the actions of a human being should be laid entirely on the drugs or the doctor, but you cannot say with any certainty that they "work." Almost anyone that has experienced depression outside of a single, tragic accident has mild depressive tendencies for life, and drugs don't make that go away. They just fuck with peoples brain chemistry, and while that might not end up in tragedy with most people, in the cases of the most disturbed, it obviously has a bad response.

What kind of doctor gives a 10 year old antidepressants!? Start there maybe.

@@xravenx24fe I think it’s from improper continuation of care. I started lexapro at 17, switched to Celexa (citalopram) a couple months later, switched back to lexapro due to suicidal thoughts on celexa, and have maintained Lexapro ever since. I also take Bupropion for depression. I also was recently prescribed adderall, but switched to Focalin. I have only used the Focalin once since Ive been prescribed it, but I can tell you that taking a lot of the same meds this guy did, they cannot be blamed. Yes everyone’s brain chemistry is different, so they will react differently. HOWEVER, with a long history of being on these SSRIs and other drugs, I don’t see how any blame can be placed on them. The ecstasy he was getting is a whole different story.

@@bec2284 Kids with severe depression that don’t respond to therapy are often given SSRIs.

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Me too 😵

I replayed that to make sure I wasn’t crazy

@@novalee4650 i did the same thing

PAXIL made me extremely aggressive. I wanted to kill myself I wanted to hurt my brothers I was tired all the time I was hungry all the time I was angry easily. When I chased my brothers through the house wielding a high heel stiletto shoe as a weapon, threw a pill bottle at his head (missed) and then they grabbed my lil bro and hid from me. I snapped out of it when they grabbed my lil bro, took a step back, looked at the situation, and said "huh this isnt normal is it...?" I sat in the computer chair, Looked at the side effects, and called my doctors (all while my brothers hid- freaking out in the bathroom.)

@Don’t get Banned! ecstasy is 100% the worst drug for your mental state

lexapro is the medication that saved me from debilitating ocd when i was 12, but sure, ok, just spread fear -_- obviously everyone reacts differently to medications, and this is especially true with ssris, but lexapro can do a lot of good for a lot of people so stop spreading this fear mongering.

I take Lexapro and I feel suicidal alot but I deal with it. Figured its just me.. In either sad af or mad

@Don’t get Banned! Just because most people on it are fine, doesn't mean all people are.

I wear a mask with a smile

And that most likely indicates a family not really being there or trying to understand him. It can indicate an easy/simple "fix" rather than the one in need. Next to that there is friends. He was lonely and prolly never heard or understood. What to expect... And they punish him after all the seconds himself was punished. What he did is not kool, but.. Everything can be explained. (Even tho it would not make up for what was done). "That" is the path to solving a problem.. To understand.

His medication was likely fine, I have a similar regiment as he had, minus the adderall. And I have tons of medication still in my mirror cabinet that I don't use anymore. I have the same medical history he has and am also taking thyroid meds, antidepressants and used to take growth hormones. The ecstasy and alcohol is what messed him up.

@@EvanBear : Keep telling yourself that Marie. Let’s not address the real problem... let’s keep pretending it doesn’t exist. Your parents job is to prepare you for life. Food, education, nutrition, psychological care, healthy interactions are important as well as preparing you to handle other people socially. Truth is; very few parents are willing to take the time to actually care for their offspring; especially when there are problems that require money and time. Medicating children may be necessary on occasion but any diagnosis would be stringently checked & supported by multiple opinions by professionals if it concerned one of my children. It would be a cold day in hell where I’d have a cupboard full of psychiatric pharmacology in my Kids room. If it’s at all possible.... ask yourself how you were able to resist taking those meds. (The ones you stopped needing) You may find that they were not necessary in the first place.

@@JayJordanJuly I know that. I was abused as a child. Not being medicated for my obvious illnesses (hypothyroidism, depression) is one part of why my childhood was as shitty as it was. Also, you misunderstood - I didn't stop needing meds. With hypothyroidism you have to take them for the rest of your life. Just recently I had addison's crisis and almost died because I couldn't take my meds (vomited them up due to a stomach bug). The meds that I'm no longer taking where replaced by different, better, meds. I'm holding onto them in case my doctor decides to switch me around to the old meds again, I don't want to waste them. I still need meds. I will always need meds because my thyroid doesn't function right, just like the guy in the video who also had thyroid issues. Medication is necessary and if you refuse your child necessary medication for their hypothyroidism that's considered abuse. Refusing medical treatment to your child is ABUSE. The meds he got from the doctor were fine. The illegal drugs he took were not and taking those was his own choice.

I woulda been very concerned to be the next target in that moment. Shit is wild. Michael seemed to handle it well.

@Daht Dood Get therapy.

@@benadrylcumberbun dont give them the time of day, they're clearly a toxic individual.

Lol

I think the idea isn't that it was some kind of spontaneous drug fueled crime, but instead the end result of a decade of powerful medications screwing with his brain AND heavy drug use.

@@neeneko gotta agree with you more or less. OP clearly hasn’t done any serious drugs to know what the hell he’s talking about

@@neeneko not only that but in an underdeveloped brain too.

I've read a lot about this case, and never once heard of mixing blood and beer. What are you getting on with? If you're talking about the ping pong ball, maybe you missed it or maybe it was skipped, but they cleaned the ball before playing with it.

to be fair - during the average game of beer pong even compared to human blood you cannot imagine the rancid crap people half-knowingly ingest (apart from the booze). Balls all over the floor where everyone trapses in and out? No problem, just give it a wipe on your sweaty ass shirt to get all that hair, dust and nasty bacteria off. Good as new, drink up ladies and gents! The red cups of death!

@@earthredalert that's for damn sure lol

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@Ya boi that’s common sense though 🤣🤣

He was just a PUNK-ASS BITCH... He wasn't goin' NOWHERE even if he had NOT killed anyone!

are you throwing syllogism test? dang im bad at mathematics

What I don’t get it why no neighbours called the cops.

@@carolinemaybe They prolly had NO idea that he killed his parents cuz he did it quietly inside of his house... There was no gun involved, so not too much noise. Oh, or do you mean why didn't the neighbors call the cops on them for partying so loud at night?

Right! I thought same like all his friends should have know that was sketch

Burst out laughing 😂 thanks

The laughable thing about medication is it's handed out based on whatever the parents say most of the time. Doctor's "agreeing" is pretty much just going along with what the parents tell them. My mom had me put on so much shit as a kid, purely on her word without any tests or anything of the sort.

Concerts makes you either a zombie of a human or fucks your emotional balance so bad I was irritable moody secluded and it made my depression worse its a trash medication

it isn't though since the hormones he got were very medically necessary since his thyroid gland wasn't producing enough, and the SSRI he was prescribed was prescribed at 15 when it is approved for age 8 and up. The FDA does super rigorous testing and does not approve things for ages that it is unsafe for. 16 is when most medications that are approved for adults are understood to be safe for since their body chemistry is pretty much the same as an 18 year old's by then, so getting prescribed prozac at 15 really wasn't an issue unless it gave him manic episodes. also as i said above the hormones were simply an external source of the hormones that he would normally be getting from his thyroid. Without it he could have even gotten myxedema and gone into a coma or died.

In America they might prescribe shit like that to kids but it's been proven that it's not actually safe for children. There's something wrong with people who justify Prozac being given to children

The average family doctor is nothing more then an educated drug dealer for the pharmaceuticals. And ssri should not be given to anybody

It is interesting to note that in 2011, there were 120,000 medical practitioners between Melborne and Fort Lauderdale ~ approx 100 miles of coastline. Do the math..... did any of them CARE? ♥

Lmfao

I feel that lol

We'd have a good 'party' !!

philosophy can be a great topic but most who choose it aren't the most socially adept unfortunately :p

Your humor is awesome lol

What was her impression of him?

Very sad.poor children put on drugs

Yes, those sentences were a joke! They should have gotten life in prison. Or the death penalty. They were old enough to torture that poor child to death. So they should be old enough to accept the consequences of their crimes....

There was another channel I tried watching that talked about the same or similar cases, but they kept adding sound effects that were completely unnecessary and made it feel a little cheap or fake. So yeah this guy definitely does it right.

Honestly, I can’t even imagine what being alive felt like for him.

hormone therapy + adhd meds alone turned me into a monster. not the kind of monster that would kill their parents and throw a house party, mind you, but christ, i felt like i was constantly screaming

Growth hormones are not anabolic steroids.

im on olanzapine(anti psychotic), prozac(anti depressant), Ritalin, Lithium and Lamictal n I feel great!

@@damian8792 are you sure👀

sadly that's better than "just pray it away"

@@lawrencelopez9839 is it?

@@lawrencelopez9839 no it’s not. My parents force me to take lots of different meds and they make me angry and depressed

@Gods Grace Or Mans Synthetic Manipulation well its what the libs want.. people to have access to all these meds cuz reasons. no one is expected to be responsible for themselves

Saying “This is what the libs want” like you’re doing here is dishonest. This should not be a partisan issue - mental illness is a problem and there should be as many options as possible to solve it. Instead of blaming this on ‘the libs’, look at who has actually helped to reduce pillpusher policies.