I think I’m gonna do Conker next.

Has it really been 24 years since Tooie? 😭

Interesting theories. As for what happened to Gruntilda’s lair, I feel like the place began to crumble a little after the events of Kazooie from the intense final battle. A house without anyone to upkeep the inside will eventually fall apart. Especially with it being in a cave. Which is probably why Klungo never went back inside because he couldn’t. Not to mention the bridge was out. The place is probably cluttered with giant boulders by the time N&B rolls around.

Gruntilda does briefly mention Brentilda during Grunty's Furnace Fun: She can ask questions about her, plus when you first correctly answer a Grunty question space she'll ask if Brentilda told you the answer.

Where could McJiggy's be located? As a kid, I always thought it was on the roof of Jiggywiggy's temple, and was sad I couldn't go to the top.

Regarding the matter of Grunty's lair being destroyed, I always assumed it was the consequence of the Digger's arrival. Remember, Banjo's entire house shook as the Digger emerged from the mountain. So one can assume that that drilling caused all that destruction to the land and the lair. Also FYI, the tower room was going to be accessible according to unused location text in the game's rom.

A part of me assumed that maybe Brentilda was killed by Gruntilda, and it’s actually her ghost we see during Banjo-Kazooie. It would explain why she has you defeat Grunty for her instead of just doing it herself. She could’ve just moved on to the afterlife at the end of the game as she probably thought there was no reason to stick around anymore as Gruntilda was defeated “for good”. It wouldn’t be that weird as she knows Grunty’s deepest, darkest secrets and she killed her other two sisters at the end of Banjo-Tooie as well.

1:04 I LEGIT had a dream where if you get EVERYTHING in the game, Cheato would crash himself into the debris, and you can explore the rest of the lair. Sadly, as I got older, I learnt of cartridge space. It would have been nice if Rare made a Lock-On Technology-type of cartridge akin to Sonic & Knuckles so you could turn the game into Banjo-Kazooie-Tooie to make the game the quintessential Banjo game, but sadly it didn’t come into fruition along with Cauldron Castle. If you’re going to do more mysteries of Banjo-Tooie, talk about the unused Castle World I lovingly refer to as Cauldron Castle. Did Donkey-Kong 64’s $1M marketing budget have something do to with it?

Hmm, Grunty’s sisters might have done more test runs with B.O.B. before they showed it off to Gruntilda. That thing did have the range to hit all the way back to Bottles. I’d just assumed that maybe Tooty was visiting Banjo, and that afterwards she went back to wherever their parents are.

Rare signing with Microsoft was the worst timeline. We could’ve had a GameCube title of Threeie and not have it been some weird vehicle based world with 327 clones of each world.

I had an itch for B-T nostalgia on this day specifically, and so the fates have deemed it.

Tooty was supposed to appear in Tooie, there are storyboards showing that she was going to be at least part of the opening. I’m guessing the reason she was cut was that she didn’t really have a purpose compared to Mumbo (Who became playable in this game) and Bottles (Who’s death kicks off the plot.) had Tooty’s epilouge journey happened in the first game she probably would’ve joined Banjo and Kazooie on their quest to save bottles.

Banjo-Tooie when I played it, I picked on way more British references, or things though out the game, than Banjo-Kazooie, like when Banjo becomes a Stony and gets to play that sport football, the sport is hugely popular here in the UK, and is often number 1 in the charts. King Jingaling, I remember mentions the sport, and sounds exactly how fans here speak about football. The pig with the union jack "pants", it's the name we call for underwear. The slap stick comedy, which has the burping and farting, which is often in a lot of films here.

Great video! You mentioned that Tooty was on the missing poster but didn't mention Brentilda's portrait in Pawno's shop. For the B.O.B., I wish they added a game over screen showing the machine being fully charged and Gruntilda's form restored. They had a game over cutscene for BK, why not BT? For the Glowbos, not only are they a race of magical beings, but there's a Mega Glowbo too. I wonder if there are more Mega Glowbos out there somewhere. Looking forward to the Conker video next!

1. I think this one requires a separation of story and gameplay. While we can go back and revisit Grunty's lair in Kazooie, and it's perfectly fine, this is mainly for people to go back and 100% the game if they didn't already prior to fighting Grunty. Story-wise, I always imagined Grunty's Lair falling into ruin as a result of her defeat. Like, the state of the lair is somehow tied to her power and well-being. 2. My guess would be the same species. 3. Brentilda probably left after Grunty's defeat, as she thought Grunty's reign was over. Tooty could have gone back to the Brothers Bear, and the "Missing" milk carton was actually originally from Banjo-Kazooie when she was kidnapped. Would also explain why the carton is in a garbage can in the first place. 4. Grunty's a narcissistic, power-hungry entrepreneur. She'll never turn down an opportunity to expand her power and influence. I highly recommend Designing For's "The Putrid Pride of Gruntilda" video if you want a more in-depth character analysis of her in this regard. 5. Yeah... I'm not touching this one. Too weird. 6. Grunty's sisters implied that Grunty would require a lot of life force to restore because of how big she is. I imagine restoring her magic powers to their previous potential has something to do with it as well. Otherwise, I would assume she wants to drain the entire island just for the evulz, possibly making her even more powerful than before. 7. This aspect of the lore has always fascinated me the most. I imagine the Jiggies are incredibly ancient, and multiple groups, philosophies, religions, and spiritualities have cropped up around them over the years, trying to understand and contemplate their mysterious power and origins. Notice how a good chunk of the worlds in Tooie revolve around the ruins of past civilizations. 8. Big. Very, very big. Stomponadon could be the equivalent of Godzilla in Banjo's world. 9. I imagine the Glowbos just simply fade from existence once their power is used up. 10. Microsoft is allegedly working on a new Banjo project as we speak. Hard to say if it'll be Banjo-Threeie though.

Just binge watched your channel (most of it at least lol) and subscribed, it makes me so happy to see people still talk and discuss about these games, specially Banjo, Kazooie and Tooie are my favorites of all time.

As a kid I always thought that Toots was just hiding in the sofa with his eyes sticking out and not......turned to ashes😅

I always assumed because we see how petty the BK cast are, what with playing kickball with Grunty's decapitated head, they just deface her lair at some point between games and maybe her sister's drill might've caused paths to cave in

I thoguht the Hag 1's digging caused the shaking that made Gruntilda's Lair to collapse inside.

I don't know which world in Banjo Tooie is my favorite I rather like em all but I definitely love the Glitter Gulch Mine because it's a lot like an old West gold mine and I love the train Chuffy

After you defeat Grunty you can’t go back into Bottles’ home. It always bummed me out as it was mostly the reason you went on this adventure and can’t talk to him or his family. I just wanted to celebrate with em.

4:18 I believe it was for two reasons: 1. Gruntilda's mind deteriorated and her angry as she layed trapped and decomposing underground grew exponentially releasing all the inner evil in her. 2. Its possible she didn't have the power to do such great evil before. However when she got the super weapon she was suddenly now capable of greater evil that she may have wanted to do, but never could. Come to think of it, we haven't seen much of her early life and other activities before the events of banjo 1.

Thanks for always putting detailed credits in your description. Loved the Stomp cam

I always wondered how characters like gobi or boggy made it into the isle of hags from gobis valley/click clock wood and freezezy peak. Like are the bk worlds actual places that exist in the isle o hags or are they stand alone realms created by magic? I guess that's kind of similar to mario 64, are the painting worlds real or not?

Grunty is a capitalist, no doubt about it. So "evil hag" 100% applies

I feel like the reason the worlds and lair are all worn down and unkempt are because Grunty and her sisters magic was probably giving power to sustain the way to enter each world. Without them occupying the space anymore the lair probably couldn't upkeep everything there that was needing magic to exist in that space and just ended up dilapidating over time.

What I'd love to see is a Banjo-Tooie mod that makes Gruntilda's Lair fully explorable again, but still have it all be in disrepair, like having all the worlds be completely empty and lifeless without Grunty's magic to sustain everything.

From what I've heard, apparently Banjo-Threeie got transformed into Nuts and Bots. I've never played Nuts and Bolts, but apparently the giant stages that have lots of empty areas are evidence that it was going to be the 3rd entry in the Collectathon Platformer series, before being recycled into the racing game. Also the intro does have you collecting items, but only to make fun of it. The game that was ultimately made, Nuts and Bolts, is a racing game, different genre, so is obviously a spinoff. Too bad Rare / Microsoft thought the Genre was dead...

I imagine the extra life force used to resurrect Bottles came from Grunty's rather hefty body. She DID head up as just a head at the end of Tooie after all.

Love the banjo content man. It makes my lunch breaks 100x better

Also, Conker 2 but half those people are part of an indie company with Chris Seaver, who regrets some of the jokes from Bad Fur Day

You forgot about the bridge in Quagmire 😢 Keep the great content!!!

Love your content mate keep it coming!

I did initially picture the whole islands life force being drained as a game over video.

Great content and insane production quality!

The developers didn't have enough children. No Banjo Treeie

One of my favorite games. Excellent video, as usual. :)

Man I hope this comes to NSO soon I miss BT so much. Glad I get to play BK again, but it's been over a decade since I played BT last.

Maybe originally you were supposed to go back through the lair after learning a specific move and rescue Brentilda who would give you a spell to enter in the Mayahem Temple Code Chamber. The lair might’ve also had 10 Jiggies to collect as well as I’ve always fo7nd itmodd that there were only 90 in the game and some of the previews said there were 100 new Jiggies to collect. Something else odd is that even after you give him his last page Cheato still tells you to be on the lookout for more. So there are definitely some unfinished things in BT.

Thank you another great video!

Great video! Now make another with more analysis and theory about each one!

+1 for Conker!

One of the best and most underrated gaming youtuber!

lol love the dino math! 😃

Canary Mary seems like she hangs out with Rickety Cricket

The glowbos don’t die, their magic gets drained and it looks like they get defeated. But if they’re magical, they can revitalize themselves. Mumbai and humba wumba won’t rely so heavily on their magic power on these creatures if it was only one use and done

A stupid headcannon I have is that Grunty used a spell to stal the life force from all the collectibles on the island and that's why you can revive Bottles and why the collectibles no longer have eyes or speak.

I've always thought that King Jingaling only got most of his life force back with a tiny portion of it being used to bring Bottles to life.

If only they could make a Tooty and Dixie Kong game in which they work together to rescue Banjo and Diddy Kong.

King Jingalings pet is toots from BK, I didn't realize the snaker charmer had a pet lol, but I remember it from the character parade, and found it on youtube and confirmed it. I guess you can tell which one I played more lmfao.

Canary Mary is one of the weirdest characters I’ve ever seen in a game. Also, she really is Satan. Her rematch in Cloud cuckooland can go to hell. Also, the real mystery is why we never got a third game. Agreed, nuts and bolts doesn’t count. Looking forward to your next video man!

A small detail. Like with Humba Wumba, whenever you use Mumbo's magic pad for the first time in each world, you'll see the Glowbo pop out of his bag and disappear much like with Humba's pool.

The Biggest mystery is where is mcjiggies?

Also the pet just died from the BOB firing. His eyeballs are on the sofa. Edit: Nevermind they’re alive woo!

Awesome video! It is funny as I had many of these same questions when I first played Banjo-Tooie as a kid, especially regarding the fate of Tooty and Bentilda after Kazooie. 6:40 I've been wondering this for decades and was going to mention it if you didn't already. I'm also curious if there ever will be a complete remaster of Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie much like Crash and Spyro received a few years ago.

The biggest mystery is: Where's the last Jinjo/Jiggy? [Who let my childhood self take control of this account...?] Banjo Tooie was another key N64 title for encouraging exploration for me alongside its predecessor.

I love this channel though I only discovered it in the last week...it feels so much like old school KZfaq.

At this point Banjo-Threeie should be a big rom hack using Banjo-Kazooie & Banjo-Tooie game designs while making the third game original We missed out on what would have been an amazing trilogy of Banjo games

They should make a Tootie-threeie with Tootie as the main character back from college looking for where Banjo and Kazooie have disappeared to

Don’t forget, there is a Banjo Kazooie game for the Gameboy Advance.

BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE 🔥 CONTENT

Gruntilda probably wanted to get her old goal back again by getting a bunch of life to Make her alive and to be beautiful

Banjo Three-ee does exist. It's called Mark Kurko games!

In "character parade" the King Jingaling's pet is named "toots".

Perhaps grunty wants an excess of energy to make herself pretty.

I have a theory with Tooty that the sisters unalived her by stealing her life force. This is how Banjo was able to revive both Bottles (who did not have his life force taken) and King Jinjo.

Nuts and Bolts is not a spin off, Is Canon in the series.

I keep forgetting his name is Stomp-on-a-don

very awesome video!

You correctly noticed glowbos fly off and disappear once you jump in Wumba’s pool, I think I remember that they jump out of Mumbo’s bag the first time you activate a Mumbo Magic pad too

I like to pretend nuts and bolt it a bad dream and doesnt exist

Banjo 2.5 might be grunty’s revenge on game boy. 3 is being made by a fan here on KZfaq well the best we will get for the time being, It has a lot of work poured into it and well worth playing. Built using unreal real engine 4.

I remember seeing constantly people complaining on Twitter about Canary Mary, I borrowed that game from a friend decades ago, and even though the race was long, I found it easy, as she was so far behind when I constantly won.(N64) I've never owned any Xbox consoles.

What kind of magic do you use for the entrances to worlds? That's what I wonder... same with how do the pictures on the wall in peache's castle take you to other worlds?

Where does Conga go after letting you into the Big Top? We never see him again

How many more dam years have I got to wait for banjo threeie to be made I couldn't care if it was the same graphics as n64

I can't believe there are people who don't like this game. It's literally better than the first one in every way, and the first one was excellent.

I agree with rare about Brentilda but not Tooty, I think she’s a pretty cool character. She’s got attitude.

After Conker… I vote Gruntys Revenge!!!

As much as we don't like it, N&B is Threeie. 😂 although.... they could bramch the timeline kinda like how Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Super both take place after Dragon Ball Z and they could then do a Threeie or they could just call it a spin off and disreguard it as non canon. But as it currently stands, it is the cannon continuation of what happens after Tooie. Very bizzarre though considering Grunty's Revenge actually plays like a proper Banjo game (or at least as close as you can on a 2D sprite based console like the GBA), and yet is still a spin off. Although later on one of the members from Rare claimed it to be cannon changing that making the situation more confusing. I'll still view it as a spin off though since it isn't mentioned at all in the three main titles. The N64 games are understandable since they came out before it, but there was no mention of Grunty's Revenge in Nuts & Bolts. It's also very clearly written in the way a spin off would be written. The events are made in a way that they have zero impact on the later games by having it based around time travel so you don't really affect anything in the present day as you went back to prevent that, and Grunty takes place by having her spirit transferred from under the rock into a robot Klungo made in like 5 seconds leaving no damage to her and leaving her exactly as she was at the end of Kazooie.

Great video. How did you get a free cam for this game?

Me: starting to write a “Whos here in 2024?” Comment Video: 4 hours ago Me:

I feel like the whole "rubbish video game character police" quip was just Gregg Mayles selling out his ex-Rare fellows at Microsoft. Just like the new art style and gameplay in Nuts and Bolts. He really got too big for his britches after the sale from Nintendo.

When I was younger I could’ve sworn they said in game what happens to the glowbos, but I guess my kid brain was just filling in the gaps. Anyways I thought that Wumba used to keep them as little pets while Mumbo would use them to make tasty soup.

I haven’t even beaten Grunty Industries yet and I had the game for years lol. I’m trying really hard not to look up any guides or walkthroughs.

I want to know what happened to the Jinjonator / Statue Jinjos from the final boss in BK1. Did they sacrifice themselves to defeat Grunty? Or were they also arrested for being rubbish characters? Also, when the ending was referring to Banjo-Threeie, they obviously meant Banjo Pilot.

Pretty cool Video😃😃

I like to think that the life force given to Bottles was somehow taken from George and Mildred. I have no way of proving it, but it certainly feels in line with how the games treat those two.

To be fair, none of the fans loved Brentilda either.

One of the devs said on twitter that the whole "Threeie" tease was actually meant to be a Joke, but like... come on... 1. You don't tease a sequel at the end of the first game and then do it again in the second game only to say "oh that was a joke" after you set precedent, and 2. Jokes are supposed to be funny. I hope we get Banjo Threeie but i'm honestly not sure I'd trust the current Rare to make it.

It was a nice video to watch it!, personally I hardly remember something of Banjo-Tooie since I rented the game just two times back in the day (the game was quite popular 😂) and I have to admit that had various misteries behind, still I'm wondering to this days where Tooty went? (maybe she left the group to have her own adventures... and end up M.I.A. lol! 😂). And about the other misteries of the lair and Canary Mary, I always thought that the lair was destroyed because there was a celebration party over there after beating Gruntilda in the first game and it went out of control. Meanwhile with Canary Mary, I'm pretty sure is a woman that identify as a canary, so in other words: a "trans-specie" person..., yep..., the first one on gaming... because remember, Rareware was a studio "way ahead of the times" (😂). By the way there was another mystery no mentioned that I never could figure it out (not sure if the game or maybe the manual mentioned in somepoint) and is: why Mumbo amd Humba had a bad relationship?, I ask it since when you control and play with Mumbo in some levels, if you visit Humba she is always rude to him and say that he is not welcome. I always wondered if there was a bad past between those two?.

Best Rare game imo

"Banjo threeie" never actually existed, it was a joke from the devs, it was also a reference to snake rattle n roll where they also say they'll be a sequel but never happen. and both of those games got also sequels with different names

Ppl shit on tooie and i agree its not perfect but god damn it its got some rich world building, a shame Nintendo sold it

um wouldn't gruntys revenge count as a third

I love Banjo Tootie it’s unpopular opinion but I think it’s better than kazooie, there’s just so much more and fun content

I like this YT video 👍🍤

I was super excited when i first heard about nuts and bolts then learned what it was and have never been more disappointed in a game ever in my life. We got two masterpieces then that piece of garbage ruined the franchise so bad it hasnt come back. We can keep wishing though and id even settler for a re style remake of the originals with some new stuff included.

Brother you dropping the video while church is going on 😭

1: So people don't re explore the old places. The N64 also doesn't have infinite space to work with. 2: Reused assets. The devs liked the creature so they gave the king it as a pet. 3: They did what they needed to in the first game. They were no longer necessary for Tooie. And yeah, the devs also confirmed that they did not like those characters. 4: Having a bad guy with so many talents makes you fear them more. 5: Orrrrr... The gas was as dangerous as radioactiveness. Or the devs couldn't think of a better character design for her. How do you make a bird look like a grandma? 6: Because the devs needed to give the player time. 7: Or maybe the devs wanted to not make them look like literal jiggys. I doubt you can do much animation with a jiggy lol. 8: Get the model from the game and take a look at it? We are no longer in 2003. 9: If you payed attention, once Mumbo casts a spell, the Glowbo jumps out and walks away. So no, the devs show that they don't die. 10: Banjo Threeie is Nuts and Bolts. Don't like it? Too bad. People like Shooters more than senseless collectathons. -L.O.G