That was truly incredible

the funny part is this chamber is BARELY in the woods.

I usually hike solo listening to music and definitely do this every time I pass pepple.

My internal dialog: Dammit he knows!

I like the Dwarf legend explanation best! :D

little people/ moon eyed people/ hulderfolk....

the dwarves were just not home, i would know that as i am one myself

Maybe some were ice houses.

Reminds me of the Pukwudgie legend

That's what I was going to suggest was that they might be water cisterns!

Shauberger taught that by covering the spring, it will keep flowing and not dry out

We had a spring "house" on our property. That's what it looked like.

If you wanted that wouldn't you aim the door at the winter solstice's sun?

Some caves at the bottom of hills have very cold air because the air goes between the broken up rocks in the hill, and cools as it descends. If they're dry, they might be ice storage. The ice cellar at Gadsby's Tavern in Alexandria, VA is beehive shaped. If they're wet they could be spring houses. The only spring house I've seen was wooden with a concrete foundation and had a spring running through it, not out of it - but maybe it was named after caves like this that were built over springs.

Jog like the orcs of Isengard

yes, they are still there.

Still no concrete information on the stone walls that line the forests endlessly throughout the north east US. They are everywhere in plain sight, yet no one ever questions them. Most I've heard is they were created by the farmers who cleared the forests during the Great NorthEast Mass Sheep Farming Era. All the trees were cut from New Jersey to main and all the stones cleared from landscape and stacked so Sheep could graze. But that doesn't seem right with me. No record of such deforestation and stone clearing. And that much Sheep would be insane nowadays, let alone back when America was like 100,000 people😂

​@@mobaj1147that farmer theory fails to answer why intact soil samples read to be 600 years old.

@@mobaj1147 I was told it was native american so we shouldn't move them. others told me it's both old farms and vanity.

We used to call the one in Thompson Connecticut the Indian tomb back in the 70s.

hey, thanks so much! Appreciate it!

Amen!

Not so. I used to know a really nice root cellar whereabouts in Rockport, Massachusetts

The thing is, if they were root cellars, they'd be for farmers who's farmsteads have likely long since vanished. A lot of old farms even back ~50-60 years ago are long gone now.

Could've been traps for animals. There might have been a one-way door or something.

@@ryelor123 not a chance

Yeah, Mystery Hill is more than a root cellar set up, for sure. The sound chamber thing, the rocks set up around it and the size. Not just a little cave set in the ground.

Check out America's Stonehenge in Salem NH

There is on in my home town. On top of a hill, its actually in my ild coworkers property. I live in West Central NH, just around the base of Mt. CARDIGAN. These are all over New England. I have a book or two about it, one is called MANITOU. check it out.

Check out the beehive hut in danville nh if you can find it

Nothing indigenous about earlier migrant groups. The entire species came from Africa. To say otherwise dehumanizes other homo sapien sapiens

Thank you!

Could've been used for drying lumber or stuff related to furs. They might've been like a small oven

Probably for tanning hides. It smells bad and part of the process can involve smoking them. Also could've been used for smoking food. The water on the floor is probably due to soil compaction due to people walking in there all the time.

funny

There's racists on all sides of these issues. There isn't any clear thinking on these things. The people who think everything was ceremonial or tombs are wrong about that as well. The reality is that these caves were probably built for tanning hides or drying food. People today have no idea how difficult it was to get clothing back then. There were no factories to mass produce textiles and wooden structures were too important to be used for tasks that would render them unfit for occupation especially due to the poisonous residues organic combustion. Building a house out of trees was very difficult back then.

Thanks so much, means a lot! Glad I could show off how cool they are!

@@DimeStoreAdventures Except - Vikings. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_colonization_of_North_America

​@@audasthe vikings never made it to new england though. Only canada.

Hey Joel was there any follow up to those carvings? Super cool!

What kind of chi rho? Because Natives did commonly use a cross in a circle as a religious motif, themselves. It'd be hard to know of it's a Native motif, or not, unless I saw one. I looked it up & found mention of something similar in an article, but the pic of the carving wouldn't load in.

@@MrChristianDTthere’s almost nothing at that site that points to anything but a long used (literally thousands of years) Native American ceremonial site and one time colonial farm settlement.

I went on a small private tour 30 years ago with an archaeologist at Gungywamp. We had permission bc it is on private land. We saw the Chi Ro carved in the rock. We also saw cairns. We went in a rock cellar which had a slit window on one end. I was told at the equinox or solstice the light passing through the slit would illuminate an doorway to the right of the entrance, which was very small.

any resources you have on finding these in hudson valley?

Putnam County is full of em. Outside of Cold Springs and Beacon.

I saw one near the AT around East Fishkill, very cool

I thubk many of the stone walls and What they did with the remains of castles:temples they destroyed

@@timmystool3349 I wish it was that exciting, it’s mostly old farmland and the walls delineated one farmers field from the next

So very true, and more true than you perfectly described. The glaciers left millions of them in the soil, and as the fields were plowed, they were used as walls delineating property lines, foundations, and walls of homes, barns, bridges, roads, etc. They are everywhere in the NE

I think the old Yankees saying was 'waste not, want not. ' :)

The stone walls are a separate thing. That's from farmers plowing their fields. They had to clear the land before they could plant, so they plowed the rocks to the edge of their field and piled them there. Since the rocks had to be cleared anyway, they used them to mark the property line.

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I know this is going to come as a shock to you, but the underground railroad probably had more to do with unethical human trafficking and less to do with charitable works. There's a reason why all the stories involve young girls and young women. They were clean of syphilis and thus valuable for certain services for men.

@@ryelor123 That's random but thank you for teaching me something new today. Fair to say not much has changed, eh? Just the systems and how human trafficiking goes on very much so to this day unfortunately.

Listen to what this girl says she knows because she was human traffic by the underground railroad and forced to deepthroat bj the whole way a whole new meaning to working on the railroad. ​@@vividvisions693

underground railroad didnt mean under the earth, it meant secretive, hidden out of plan site these were not used to hide slaves, especially this far north, they were for storage

as interesting as it was, you didnt offer any facts, also note they were for storage.

See Graham Hancock's Before America.

And one technique found to work by one people could also be independently adopted by another. Or something built by one group can be repurposed by another.

@merrygoldberry If you Google “Gungywamp”, it’s part of a nature preserve. You can schedule a tour of the chamber sites. It’s quite easy. I did it last summer.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks a ton!

show me I want to find crystals so bad legit so bad

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

I thought the same thing! Very similar.

I think they were for tanning hides. That would be an essential 'industry' of people many hundreds of years ago and a large chamber that can be heated and smoke the hides could be useful. Due to the survivor bias, we only see the stone ones and not the wooden ones.

There is allegedly one in Mill Creek Park in northeast Ohio, but it got too locally famous & the park rangers didn't trust it, didn't want anyone getting hurt trying to explore it & didn't want some aggressive animal that could hurt guests moving into it, so they had the entrance sealed off. But, the only known stone cairns in the area are in a completely different county, in the Grand River Nature Preserve.

Aligning stuff was probably done so that people would always know directions. Without compasses, finding fixed things in the sky was probably done for practical reasons.

Thank you! I was watching the video wondering why hundreds to thousands of years of aboriginal occupation was completely ignored.

Using them for tanning hides is probably more common. We have really bad tendency to attribute everything people did hundreds or thousands of years ago to ceremonies or religious events. In reality, they had to build practical structures too and places to dry meat or tan hides would've been all over the place. I'm sure these stone structures were build by piling up dirt and stones simultaneously until there's a rock-covered mound. Then rain and shovels removed the inside dirt leaving behind a structure that didn't require wooden false-work.

​@@CricketGirrl Yes, there's a bit of casual racism that seemed to be unconsciously slipped into this video, as there's an underlying implication that indigenous people didn't know how to build a structure out of stone.

It is :-) but we are struggling to protect some of the lands with lesser known structures and cairns against logging :-(

The line wouldn't point directly up it would point toward the horizon. He didn't show us the cairns but he mentioned they were on a hill on private property and he showed us the hill. From the mouth of the chamber their outlines would form peaks and notches along the top of the hill. As the Pleiades constellation rose over the horizon, certain stars would appear to rise from those points. Keep in mind the Indians in Massachusetts regularly burned the forest undergrowth, so these types of things would have been more visible than they are now. I have a book all about these chambers called Manitou, by James Mavor Jr and Byron Dix. The authors spent years researching and visiting several sites and took all kinds of measurements and made maps and diagrams. They found that many of the sites had a similar arrangement. Some type of chamber or observation point in a valley or on a hillside, and on a ridge or hill along the horizon a series of stone mounds or walls that roughly lined up with things like the Summer/winter solstice sunrise/sunset, or various stars and constellations. They used archaeoastronomy to estimate when the alignments would be perfect. I think at the Upton chamber they found that the Pleiades lined up with the cairns on the hill around 700-800 AD.

Edit: did some research. The stonewalls and stone chambers are all NATIVE AMERICAN in origin, that’s my conclusion. The sheer vastness of the stonewalls, by themselves, would take more than just 100 or 200 years to make, and the stone chambers, even more time, at least 1,000 years and probably more. European settlers have only been in what’s called “New England,” for about 400 years. Even more importantly, the early American period of deforestation and clearing farmland, at its most intense in the area, was from about the 1780s to the 1880s. That’s only 100 years. Not nearly enough time to build all of these thousands of stonewalls and stone chambers across MA, NH, VT, RI, CT, NY and further south! These mysterious rock chambers, falsely labeled “root cellars,” which is not what they were, lack historical archeological associations to early American colonial era farmers because they weren’t built by European colonial farmers, but by pre-Columbian Native American peoples, and these rock caves possibly had different purposes according to their design, geographic location and the needs and interests of the indigenous people who built them. The Upton cave for example, possibly for astronomical observation and ceremonial purposes, others possibly for food storage (indigenous, not colonial “root cellars,”) hide tanning, water storage, and who knows! and other reasons we haven’t yet surmised in this thread. Not saying early white American farmers and homesteaders didn’t have root cellars or spring boxes, being recent history, there’s probably records of them, but these are not them. I think these rock chambers are different and way older. I think people are coming upon these structures and “confusing” them for root cellars and spring boxes but that “confusion” is really their white racist bias keeping them from even considering their Native American origin. Also, I believe during the Underground Railroad, some Native Americans allied with Black slaves and abolitionists to liberate the slaves, telling them where these stone chambers were, to hide escaped slaves while on the journey North.

@@XandiMusic There are no "caves," shown. Try to speak the language. There is no archaeological evidence associated with many of those chambers. That is why they are a problem and a magnet for crack pots.

Yes, laying in the leaves is not advisable! Hope your Lyme is lessening. I had it back in 2016, along with Babeseios.