The Mystery of Predelay, SOLVED!

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In this episode of MakeMineMusic, Marc Daniel Nelson shares his insight and thoughts on Predelay on reverbs!
Predelay on reverb is when the reverb starts after the source you are giving it to; it is the delay between the dry signal and the reverb.
An example of this is putting a one hundred millisecond delay on the reverb send of vocals. It will then take one hundred milliseconds for that reverb to start, meaning that you are creating a depth imagery in the stereo imagery, which is allowing the vocal to sound forward and the reverb behind it.
If you juice up the Predelay, the higher you go, the more the reverb sounds like it is distancing itself. This can be used as a trick to get depth and size from your vocals.
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@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

What is your approach to predelay?

@TheGuitartwanger 3 жыл бұрын

I like to use Reverb Foundry’s M7 Link for the Bricasti M7 as it makes it so easy to sync different note values with my DAW and then fine tune it from there

@reacherstudio 3 жыл бұрын

@Greg Elchert excellent tip. I have used reverb calculators but it just gets so tedious. Especially when wanting to change 1/8 to 1/4 for example

@TomiSimatupang 3 жыл бұрын

Like @Greg Elchert, but sometimes with multiple repeats, and often with tape delay, which also saturates and modulates.

@TheFeelButton 3 жыл бұрын

I use it to get a head start on procrastination! Cheers Warren!!

@AlexAvila-hw3ys 3 жыл бұрын

I use predelay on snare drum a lot. If you have a smaller drum and you want it to sound larger use this trick but, the predelay and the reverb are going to be a lot shorter than on this vox

@davearnold4426 3 жыл бұрын

Who is this guy? Doesn't he care if I'm doing Marvelously well or not?!

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Haha I'm sure he does!

@moodmusik 3 жыл бұрын

lol!

@Genious. 3 жыл бұрын

That might be the hardest I've laughed at any youtube comment

@deanrichards6334 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

3 жыл бұрын

kkkkk

@higltypig 3 жыл бұрын

this dude always seems to be mixing really great music!

@domdraper3221 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking.

@wademosher 3 жыл бұрын

True, and it's nice not to see 'DJ' in his job description.

@johnmcvicker6728 3 жыл бұрын

Also he has stories that date-back long enough to make me think Marc is like 65 years old.

@massivebeatzz 3 жыл бұрын

always!

@Genious. 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing within 10 seconds of this song: I'll buy that album. Especially as I've been sitting here listening to the new Lake Street Dive album and thinking I want more - this fits nicely. Now I have to watch the video twice so I can go back and learn what I was hear to learn in the first place.

@whisperthiefmusic 3 жыл бұрын

Between Marc and Gregory Scott I feel i've found my Mixing Yoda and Mr Miaghi... I can't get enough of these videos!!! LOVE IT!

@bwall615 3 жыл бұрын

I agree! I have learned a lot of ideas from Warren. Now, with Marc and Gregory Scott, I feel like I’m earning my degree in mixing.

@mbombaby 3 жыл бұрын

Yup...The Troika. Scott, Nelson and Huart.

@ehze5010 Жыл бұрын

100%!

@joevining2603 3 жыл бұрын

This is the most clear definition of pre-delay I've heard. I was never sure exactly what it meant. Thanks!

@RobGutmann Ай бұрын

agree!

@omstheband Жыл бұрын

I really love how much Marc underlines the importance of having fun!! It’s so easy to fall Into the mentality of just going through the motions of what you’ve heard other mixers suggest rather than relying primarily on your ears and listening to how the music feels. He’s also talked in other videos about how breaking the rules is how one creates their own sound and i absolutely love that as well. There’s really no right or wrong way to make art since that’s exactly what we’re doing :)

@HitTheRoadMusicStudio 3 жыл бұрын

Saw so many videos regarding this topic and ended up confused! Here comes Marc Daniel Nelson and fix this issue in his fantastic teaching style, thank you so much!!!

@nebyenrub 3 жыл бұрын

For those who aren’t scared of simple math: 60,000 divided by your bpm gives you a quarter note. Half of that is your eighth note etc. 👍

@wademosher 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Poindexter! Actually, the way I do it is set any delay to BPM, then turn the BPM off to see what the actual ms are. Sometimes I like them to be a little bit off of perfect, or set to .8th notes, or whatever.

@gjergjkastrioti1688 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, "engineer" and all.

@davejohnsonmusic 3 жыл бұрын

I think Marc Daniel's point is that, you should arrive at the best number on the feel of the track and not by something so absolute.

@larrybethune3909 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks B2. I'm not scared of the math or the feel methods....but I do like to know the mathematical basis for what I feel. Kinda like hitting a trap draw 8 iron in an 8 mph left to right cross wind to a pin tucked front right. Like Jethro said, you have to do some "cyphering" to square that circle.

@stormshadow2k 3 жыл бұрын

wat is dis matt you speak of and wat is the magic threrein?

@lLl-fl7rv 3 жыл бұрын

Can't imagine that you are teaching us those amazing techniques for free. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much

@MortalVildhjart Жыл бұрын

Great video! I think i wanna put this here for anyone interested still, If i remember the equation for Predelay correctly then its : 60,000 / BPM /4/4 = Predelay Time (Round up floating number) So you are taking the Milliseconds in one Second =60.000, Dividing that by you BPM to get how many MIlliseconds is in one Beat and then you divide it by 4 to get to a 16th note length and then again to get to a 164th of the second. So a song at 120 bpm would be 32ms (31.25 but we round up simply because it doesnt matter and is easier to remember). If i made any mistake i am sorry, its been a while since i learned this) I also wish to say that, I agree that Music is not a Mathematical problem, but I think the view described is ofcourse fine for keeping the Video simple, but increadiably reductionist to the Idea of there being no Wrong way to do Music. I think Math not being the right Tool for most people when it comes to Creative expression is fine but I think if someone is open to the idea it can become an amazing tool to solve "not getting the sound" the way that person wants. It can be frustrating to simply feel it out if one is not great at that. I hope i am making sense and i am saying this with no malice or ill will. I just figured if the Math is exactly what someone else may have looked for than providing it is the kindest thing to do. Anyhow thanks again, i did learn a lot as usual from your Videos.

@Noone-of-your-Business 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, so _this_ is what it does. I wasn't able to make sense of it, partly because "pre _delay"_ sounds like pulling the delay _ahead_ of the dry signal to me; you know, "pre" as in "before". It seems I lumped together reverb and delay (as in "echo") there. Thanks for clearing that up.

@Anvilshock 3 жыл бұрын

This is what happens when pre-people pre-abuse the pre-prefix pre to pre-unnecessary pre-levels. Like pre-heating an oven. It becomes so meaningless that when people do need to use it, listeners are ill-equipped to decode what they are being said to.

@Anvilshock 3 жыл бұрын

@@docdelete Please do not actually kick cats.

@philipjennings3490 5 ай бұрын

I thought exactly the same thing until this video cleared it up!

@RoryButlerMusic 3 жыл бұрын

I could watch Marc mix and talk about this stuff all day. The definition of an incredible mixer who mixes very creatively!

@NathanPanke 3 жыл бұрын

Who “thumb downed” this?!? This is and I am marvelous

@fytakytemusic 3 жыл бұрын

Finally! Someone talking about the most important control on a reverb! I like to use a room reverb to send all my mix elements to, but I send each of them through a slightly different predelay and eq setting. This gives me a sense of where the individual elements are placed in my imaginary "room" (soundstage).

@Seriouslycantplayguitar 2 жыл бұрын

love it, almost like mixing wet/dry. Really gives the clean non-reverb signal a lot of strong presence. It "feels" really good when you turn up the pre-delay.

@denniswalley3394 3 жыл бұрын

If I could go back in time, I would get a job working with this guy. He's the best. He also seems to love the same music I do. I've learned so much since discovering his videos about 3 months ago.

@TNT-km2eg 7 ай бұрын

Nothing to be proud of

@hansdorenstouter3813 8 ай бұрын

Great, finally an engineer who admits he hates math!🥰 Me too☺

@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын

Hahaha thanks

@scottvonensign6385 3 жыл бұрын

You had me at "I hate math"! I constantly tell my clients that and they can't believe it, probably because there really is a lot of math involved with recording and mixing. It's just not how my brain processes creative things.

@aryehwiznitzer9060 3 жыл бұрын

Besides, what will you tell the client if it sounds bad? The math led me astray? Should be done with ears not pencils.

@mankepoot9440 3 жыл бұрын

And when you write the bill you won't do the math but you just feel how much your client is prepared to pay?

@CJ-ck6kk 3 жыл бұрын

Great take on how to approach pre-delay. The biggest take away for me, and what is always my "north star" is, there are NO rules, it's about art. And to quote Warren: "if it sounds good, it is good". I truly believe in this. It is however good to understand how things work, to be able to achieve the goal you have. Cheers.

@SuperdangerStudios 2 жыл бұрын

Just used this trick on a mix! Thanks again for another great tip, Marc.

@Producelikeapro 2 жыл бұрын

Marvellous

@jasabasenara8124 3 жыл бұрын

Always love marc's approach...simple and fun. That's what music is about!!

@famosguider205 3 жыл бұрын

Marc is one of the few presenters I don’t read the comments during the video because FOMO and having to waste time rewinding! Lol... the other presenter is Warren! You all have a very valuable channel. So great that I have gone back to watch more of your videos! All GOLD! Thank you

@CraigFlowersMusic 3 жыл бұрын

I really love the low end on that track. Fantastically done.

@santibanks 3 жыл бұрын

Pre-delay is an interesting concept because you can approach it in two ways, really depending on what your goal is. What Marc demonstrates here very nicely is the creative aspect of pre-delay. Basically the separation between source and reverb. Increasing pre-delay brings the source to the front and therefor creates this depth as Marc demonstrates. That works really nice as a way to feature both the source and the reverb. Hence that long pre-delays like 120 or 250 ms is interesting for vocals (or a solo element) where the arrangement has a lot of space and the tempo is slow to medium. Ballad vocals just love a good hall or longer plate setting with a good amount of pre-delay. But, pre-delay is a feature of the real world. When a source creates sound, that sound needs to travel through air before it can bounce off any surface to form reverb. That distance it needs to travel is actually the pre-delay. As sound travels around 33cm per milli-second, it means that in our own experience we are used to a certain range of pre-delay from just being in places (a room, a club, a concert hall, a church or cathedral). If you add a room reverb to a drumkit, using 120ms of pre-delay will make the reverb very unnatural (though it can still be cool, vibey, and creative). So if your goal is to enhance your sources by encapsulating them in real spaces, short pre-delay settings will probably better settings to achieve that. This is also why tempo synced pre-delay, delay, and reverb times have their merit: they help with tightening up your mix and emphasise the rhythmic aspect of the music.

@Anvilshock 3 жыл бұрын

Frankly, it should just be called delay, because that's what it does. Calling it a predelay is just adding unnecessary confusion, suggesting some additional quality over its function that isn't actually there. It delays the reverb. That's it.

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much for sharing!

@santibanks 3 жыл бұрын

@@WAZA___ There are no rules, there is only taste informed choices based on what kind of sound/effect you want to achieve in the context of the material you are working on. Some values work very well, others less. Set a value, listen, adjust, listen, and continue till you have something which you like. But as I pointed out: if you want to emphasise the rhythm.grid of the track then maybe it's good to tempo sync the pre-delay so that the reverb hits on the subdivision of the song (16ths maybe). I'm no EDM expert by any means (not my genre) but that's probably where I might start.

@cured_bacon647 Жыл бұрын

@@Anvilshock then what, call it pre-delay on a delay? Nah. Pre-delay exp;Ian’s perfectly at what its describing and is universal

@Anvilshock Жыл бұрын

@@cured_bacon647 No, I explained exactly why it's redundant. You see a necessity for overclarification. Like, what, in contrast to "a predelay", would be a delay that you'd need to distinguish from? As in, what practical application of a delay, as opposed to some complete arsepull of a hypothetical, impractical, and academic application of a delay that could possibly justify the existence of the dedicated term that is "predelay" to which you could desperately cling to at least feign to have a point in the argument? Anglophones seem to be obsessively infatuated with adding the prefix pre to literally anything that could possibly come before some other thing. "I preheated the oven, I predrilled the hole, I pretinned the leads." No, you didn't. You heated the oven. It's now hot. You drilled the hole. There is now a hole. (The only valid use of pre-drilling would be drilling with a smaller bit, or drilling not as deep, or both, or whatever, before going all the way, for whatever practical reasons, like if your drill was not powerful enough to use the large bit in the first place.) You tinned the leads. They are now tinned. That's what the English simple past means. It's something you did in the past. And in these cases in the immediate past before some other step. There is no justified purpose for adding the prefix pre in there. All it does is saying, "I want to sound smart so I pretentiously sprinkle my language with smart-sounding lingo, without giving a second thought as to whether that lingo is even applicable, in the hopes of looking smart in front of others." Surprise, you aren't. At least not to those who see through your bs.

@mrduckboibones 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this one Marc! Been hoping you would do this after you mentioned it in another vid.

@abelhopson9785 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Marc , for such an informative session

3 жыл бұрын

Mystery of the pre-delay, SOLVED! Marc: "I have no idea" God I love this channel! You guys are great!

@stephenpeacock7990 2 жыл бұрын

Always thoroughly enjoy your videos Marc and learn a great deal from them too - thank you. Subscribed!! Best wishes from South Wales, UK.

@Nickzzzzz1 3 жыл бұрын

What an excellent few minutes. Thank you.

@AlexeySolovievMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Really wonderful video! Love Marc's videos! Thank you so much Warren for inviting Marc on your channel! Really marvelous stuff!

@mattywhitey518 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your videos Marc. Really enjoyable to watch.

@timweinheimer1 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks For your insight those vocals sound amazing

@Charles-gs4os 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video! Thanks for breaking it down nice and simple Marc

@arpantoppo3266 3 жыл бұрын

Explained so smoothly 🙌🙌🔥🔥

@scottblyth5940 3 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic song! Along with a fantastic tutorial!

@paulsmallmusic 3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful video! Awesome demonstration!

@EuropaMan 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Marc for covering this topic and making it easy to understand. I'm really looking forward to your new tutorials. Keep them coming. Thank you for sharing.

@shooten1st 3 жыл бұрын

That was a very timely video for me. Thanks guys.

@brettmarlar4154 3 жыл бұрын

Pre-delay used to be called "early reflections". I had it explained as the time it takes for the sound to meet the first surface from which to reflect, causing the echoey sound. In other words, it creates the geometry of the "room" or "space" that the reverb creates. Music is actually extremely mathematical. In fact it is maths at is core, as well as physics. Only difference is that the answer is aslo a variable that is often irrational. This means that the correct answer isn't a finite number. There are many different correct answers, ultimately it comes down to the situation and what the song calls for.

@replaceablehead 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I entirely agree with this, it is entangled in the size of the space, but it really does more to determine the distance between the listener and the source. Reverb length does more to determine the geometry of the room. Less predelay, makes the source sound faaaaaar away, more predelay makes them sound closer to the listener. You can have a singer an inch from your earhole in a giant cathedral, geometrically the space is still huge, you're just standing closer to the source.

@brettmarlar4154 3 жыл бұрын

@@replaceablehead By geometry, I'm referring to the distance between the source and the first reflective "wall". It could also be the floor or ceiling of the "room". At least that's how it sounds in my ear.

@crispyfrostings9620 3 жыл бұрын

Pre delay is not the same as early reflections

@brettmarlar4154 3 жыл бұрын

@Deep Moticons Of course it is. You count out your rhythm at a set tempo that is measured at a beat per minute. The rhythm is derived by subdivided beats, and harmony is derived from combining frequencies that are complimentary to each other based on how in or out of phase with one another. These combined frequencies played in certain sequences can trigger emotional responses in the listener. Everytime we pick up our instruments and play we are actually calculating all of these equations in fractions of seconds. Whether we're cognizant of this process is immaterial. Music is math and physics expressing its feelings.

@andrewwhitehouse1878 Жыл бұрын

Wow Marc .. thank you so much for this!

@tripwillie2 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this clear, easy explanation of predelay ! Really opened my ears !

@Jimmy87268 3 жыл бұрын

Marc is great, I really like his approach to mixing and listening!

@niclastname 3 жыл бұрын

Understanding and getting that depth with reverb and the predelay is always something that's been kind of over my head, and this is a great explanation and demonstration! Thank you Marc, and thank you Warren for giving us this video and channel! :)

@ChiefMiddleFinger Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reminder.

@jackcarolina856 3 жыл бұрын

what a great explanation TY Marc

@stupendousmusic4190 3 жыл бұрын

Great Song! Thanks for this. The predelay demonstration was excellent!

@michaeltablet8577 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and that song sounds awesome. Beautiful vocals. Thank you so much!

@JeffDunsmore1 3 жыл бұрын

What a great reminder to experiment with the predelay and really listen to how it creates different space or depth. Thanks again Warren and Marc for the knowledge!

@enado18 3 жыл бұрын

Great coverage of the topic at hand and even better message about making music musical rather than scientific. I needed to hear that one, thanks dude!

@vijayanand1154 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely track Marc !!! Loving the tutorial as well

@toilettunes1 3 жыл бұрын

thanks guys was really looking forward to this one

@Dugzy1117 Жыл бұрын

Thank You! You explained it so well!

@aaronbird9437 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, great information! And great song!

@Hugoknots 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Concise, to the point, and transparent with your approach.

@quigleyjamesmusic 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation of pre delay. You made it crystal clear for me. Thanks Marc

@kairosounds9161 3 жыл бұрын

Marc Daniel Nelson really is the 🐐

@MartinLuxen 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Marc! I use it to make sure my vocals (or whatever I'm reverberating...) are staying in front. I love the natural sound of this song! Great vocals/instrumentation.

@RogerioValgode 3 жыл бұрын

Best explanation I found about pre delay 👏👏👏 Thank you!!

@markoburrows 3 жыл бұрын

This is excellent. A great demo of creativity and feel focusing on the pre-delay function and the emotional effect it creates

@OriginalRaveParty 3 жыл бұрын

Super explanation. Thank you

@marksteinhauser3779 3 жыл бұрын

I've been staring at that knob - thanks for sharing this!

@lavalizard1 3 жыл бұрын

I love MDN’s approach to mixing - he really emphasizes listening skills (and having fun). These videos are great. Cheers.

@michaelcox8702 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, never new what pre delay was. I was always searching for something in the vocals and I think this is it.

@alexdivega 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! Love it! I didn´t know that we can have depth just adjusting the Pre-Delay. AMAZING! 🙏✌

@SoulsTongueRecords 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! Cheers!

@rome8180 2 жыл бұрын

I like to do the math because it gives me a nice starting point. And because, unlike most creative people, I actually enjoy math. For anyone who's interested, you can start with the number 60,000 and then divide that by the BPM. If that number is too large, you can just keep dividing it in half until you have a number that seems reasonable. So for example, if your song is 100 BPM, you would end up with the number 600. You probably don't want a 600 millisecond predelay because it would never engage. But if you divide it twice you're down to 150. You can try that and see if it's still too long. It depends on the melody. If it doesn't work, try 75 milliseconds. And so on.

@smileybucks7626 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information

@rocktonmusikschule 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos he makes. Would love watching him work for few days.

@rodhorncastle 3 жыл бұрын

Finally - this makes perfect sense. Just tested it on Valhalla with vocal track. What a difference. Thanks.

@TalentoUrbanoMundial 2 жыл бұрын

This video opened my mind and the way expained helped me to understand it better.

@Producelikeapro 2 жыл бұрын

That’s great to hear!!

@ChrisEffort 3 жыл бұрын

Marc Daniel Nelson is such a great source of learning and inspiration. And his persona is equally as inspiring. Amazing content.

@TNT-km2eg 7 ай бұрын

Member of the family ?

@zavaudioproduction 2 жыл бұрын

I have learned a lot from you, thank you very much Marc...

@guzzchannel8969 3 жыл бұрын

You are the best that explains how is this music and mixing, just listen. And with a very important technical preparation. Congrats.

@michaelhurwitz56 3 жыл бұрын

Great demo!

@paulb6630 3 жыл бұрын

Once again Marc Nails it. Simple, clear, and NO MATH lol

@delorusclaiborne3274 Жыл бұрын

Great to see a video which is actually genuinely useful instead of product reviews/advertisements thanks so much 🙏👍 gawd what a great video 👍

@zackorr421 3 жыл бұрын

1st vid of yours I have seen. Loved it. Thank you. “It should be fun.”

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful!!

@davidabair2280 3 жыл бұрын

I think of pre delay as the distance the wall is away from the source. After the source hits the wall the reverb starts.

@priitpajusalu6407 3 жыл бұрын

It hits the wall but must come back to you always. 128 ms it is 22 m distance to reflective wall.

@doctorscoot 3 жыл бұрын

that's exactly what it is. the shortest path of the reflections back to your ears.

@replaceablehead 3 жыл бұрын

That sounds great. But where is the listener standing in said room? From the perspective of where your ears are placed, predelay actually does more to determine how far away, or close to the singer the listener is than how far away the singer is from the wall, or first reflection point.

@doctorscoot 3 жыл бұрын

@@replaceablehead yes, I did say the path of the reflections to your ears. The difference also relying on the distance between your ears the direct path to the original sound source. So if you’re in a huge cathedral at one end and the source is at the other end the earliest reflection won’t be separated that much from the direct sound (plus a lot of diffuse mush). If you assume a close recorded vocal - you know like most vocals are indeed recorded - I think the assumption is the listener is at the position of the microphone and thus the predelay operates as an analogue of the shorter reflection paths. That’s all very artificial so you’re correct in that it does indeed operate in a more complex way, because you can’t hear a source from two locations in real life. However I’m pretty sure the ‘shortest reflection path’ is what reverb algorithm designers were thinking of in adding this parameter. In a plate reverb, for example, it’s the distance from the transducer to the pickup (at the speed of sound in the plate, which will be much much faster than in air).

@priitpajusalu6407 3 жыл бұрын

@@replaceablehead That example is describing situation you standing next to singer. Direct signal comes to your ears nearly same moment it was sung, reflected signal after 128 ms delay. When you move to the distance from singer difference between direct signal and reflected becomes smaller. And if you far away, then that delay is missing. So if you using same reverb for all instruments and playing with predelay you can move sources, bigger predelay moves closer, shorter predelay rises distance perception. The biggest predelay describes room overall, as was said 128 ms it is ~20 m to closest reflecting wall.

@elliotkillianmusic4619 3 ай бұрын

enjoyed the song and the tutorial! Thanks

@manisbeast1245 3 жыл бұрын

great info, thank you

@rickdeaguiar-musicreflecti7692 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial on predelay. Love it. :)

@zukipower9960 3 жыл бұрын

Oooooooooh! Snap! I won't just be twisting that knob without understanding what I'm hearing anymore. MDN continues to enlighten music producers by sharing his talent. MORE MAKE MINE MUSIC!

@HEATHfromOZ 3 жыл бұрын

Love this. Been scared of pre delay so been keying the vox into a compressor on the verb track. But now, I'm gonna look at pd again. Cheers!

@LyudmilaOsipova 3 жыл бұрын

Warren, I am listening to you and your remarkable guests, and I UNDERSTAND!!! You guys, are really Marvelous!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much

@edsyktyk 2 жыл бұрын

Так держать, Люда!

@nathanieljohnsonjr775 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this was very helpful. Very, Very Helpful!!

@PalkoChris 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely wonderful content! Thank You. 🤙

@thewiseandthefoolish 3 жыл бұрын

EPIPHANY!! Thank you! This is the tool I didnt know I needed. This video was very simple and helpful

@DThompson55 3 жыл бұрын

I had set up a complicated set of delays of 1ms, 2ms, 4ms, all the way up to 64ms. And it never sounded as good as what you just showed. Clearly, I wasn't adding enough predelay to make a difference. THANK YOU!

@DThompson55 3 жыл бұрын

Also, I was thinking in terms of distance. Sound travels about one foot in 1ms, so if the singer is 30 feet away from me, 30 ms of predelay should be sufficient. I'm probably completely wrong in that thinking.

@thesilentwind4243 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds great through my headphones. I realized good things :) Thank you!

@michaelnorth3785 3 жыл бұрын

This is the best video on this subject ... ever ! thanks

@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@roscoechance5155 3 жыл бұрын

It makes the reverb more apparent as well, it stands out more. Looking forward to experimenting with this

@nebyusamuel7858 3 жыл бұрын

the song is sooooo soothing

@karltraunmuller7048 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful song.

@HasseC 2 жыл бұрын

"It´s not the end of the universe" - LOVE IT!! Another GREAT episode!! Thanx ...

@Producelikeapro 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ever so much!!

@rudolfbaethge282 3 жыл бұрын

You Rock DANIEL!!!!

@MarcBecker_Music 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome showcase of the use of pre-delay. Thank you, Marc and Warren. And you've chosen such a beautiful song to demonstrate it, Marc! Love it. I like to play with pre-delay to give sources in the mix depth and weight. I learned this back in the early 2000s from an audio engineer who worked for a German broadcast service. I was a little desperate. Most of the tracks from the recordings I worked with had been recorded individually in small, dead rooms and always sounded very direct and lifeless. Adding reverb seemed to be the solution, but it often sounded too washed out and artificial. I talked with him about this subject, and he advised me to try to solve it with setting the pre-delay and simply explained to me that the longer the pre-delay, the closer the signal sounds to the listener in the mix. I tried and experimented with it for a while and it just works great.