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The Mystery of the Horned Church (4K)

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John Rogers

John Rogers

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The Elizabeth Line to Romford then a walk through Hornchurch and Upminster. Please subscribe for regular videos: bit.ly/1EJjIB8
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This walk in the London Borough of Havering takes us along a Roman Road through Hornchurch to St Andrew's Church which is mentioned in a document from 1222. From here we go to Upminster Windmill built in 1803 and then to St Laurence Church Upminster where the Revd William Derham measured the speed of Sound in 1709.
Also in this video: Upminster Tithe Barn, the River Ingrebourne, Romford to Upminster Railway, Fairtykes Hall, and Langtons House.
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@BEAR020159
@BEAR020159 2 жыл бұрын
John I enjoyed your video. I have attended St Andrews for many years and would be happy to show you around. The bulls head is not pagan it’s the symbol of the French monks who built the church 800 years ago. I have seen the seal on the documents where the king gave the lands of havering to the monks they are stored in New College Oxford. The small alcove to the Right of the West door is for holy water. If you want a chat about the history etc of the church or to have a look around let me know. Jeremy
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the info Jeremy and have just seen the comment about the bulls head on a church in France. Would love to come for a look around the church some time
@BEAR020159
@BEAR020159 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks no problem just let me know when you are available need to find a time when the church is not in use if you give me your email I can give you my number
@BEAR020159
@BEAR020159 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks John as you walked up the hill towards the windmill at Upminster you mentioned the four cottages on the left. These were the original workhouse men, women, boys and Girls.
@vickiekostecki
@vickiekostecki 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was that the alcove next to the door was where people could 'drop off' unwanted babies, but that would be more likely in a monastery or nunnery, I suppose.
@BEAR020159
@BEAR020159 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Price no cross was ever replaced the monks put the bulls he’d on the east end of the church when it was built it was their insignia not only for the church but also for the priory that they built.
@stevejones3635
@stevejones3635 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a Wimpy in Watney Market, Stepney. Opened around 1977, and the original manager retired only last year.
@lukebyrne-perkins4455
@lukebyrne-perkins4455 2 жыл бұрын
There was a wimpy in woolwich 3 years ago. I know because I went to the Wetherspoons across the road and stumbled out to find it. Hopefully it’s still there
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 2 жыл бұрын
Born in Romford. Christened at St Andrews Church, Hornchurch. My mum's funeral held there also. Lived near the River Ravensbourne. Ate in that Wimpy Bar when it first opened @ 1970s.
@maggiebee5261
@maggiebee5261 2 жыл бұрын
Like HMQ, I have recently developed some significant mobility issues, and can no longer go for walks. A simple pleasure that is only missed when no longer possible. So, keep walking, John - and take me with you on your marvellous rambles! A fan from Canada.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that Maggie - delighted to have you along on my walks
@BeyondF1
@BeyondF1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh what a gem. I used to live not 200 yards from where your walk commenced. So many memories. Behind the Horned Church there is an old quarry where we went tobogganing. No fancy vacuum formed plastic sledges, old packing cases served us well. Opposite the windmill you briefly showed the Old Chapel where I went to Sunday School over 60 years ago. It is now, I believe, owned by the convent situated behind it, though still used as a house of worship. I was fortunate to be able to revisit the church a few years ago. The text, "Jesus is Lord" was still there as was the old pulpit though these now moved to a side room. If you get a chance do go back and view the inside of the tithe barn. The beams are spectacular as are the exhibits. I recall watching the pargetting being undertaken of the building close by. So many memories for an old Brit now living in central Kentucky USA. My sincere thanks once again.
@dougzirkle5951
@dougzirkle5951 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy so many aspects of your walks. One in particular is your flexibility with sticking (or not) to your itinerary. That flexibility opens up new avenues of interest and wonder. You are appreciated.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Doug
@eboracensis
@eboracensis Жыл бұрын
Hi John .Love your work There's a Wimpy in Rickmansworth,though sadly they no longer do the Bender sausage which gave us so much childish pleasure back in the day
@raymondrichards4888
@raymondrichards4888 2 жыл бұрын
John, the area of Hornchurch is known to me from my childhood and teenage tears. My recollection from reading years and years ago is that the cattle Drovers would hold over in that area to let the cattle recuperate from a long drive and put back some mass on their bodies prior to going into the market in Romford. The church made its money by administering to the drover's spiritual needs and the recognition of this resulted in the head of a Bovine being placed under the eves, however, I suspect that a little bit of poetic licence has been used at some point because the head looks like a Scottish cow/bull. Another very interesting fact is that the last recorded official bare-knuckle fight was held in the area of the church which is because it was probably entertainment for the Drovers.
@touriel8943
@touriel8943 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds likely they rested the cattle up. Interesting about the bare-knuckle fights. People forget that the Public House was usually next to the Church e.g 'The Bells'!
@bakerloobadboy
@bakerloobadboy 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen many a bare knuckle fist fight in Hornchurch, mainly on Friday and Saturday nights
@petersaula2304
@petersaula2304 2 жыл бұрын
@Raymond Richards There is a natural bowl there, a dell where the fights took place. Well overgrown, the last time I visited. I recall many 'commonwealth' servicemen graves in the adjoining cemetry.
@benblumenstein7656
@benblumenstein7656 2 жыл бұрын
"IF"!!!! I ever have the opportunity to live in London, I want to hang out with John Rogers!!!! I have told YOU this before, I'm sure. But THANKS for being and doing what YOU do!!!
@tanniahutton4759
@tanniahutton4759 2 жыл бұрын
Having grown up in Gidea Park Romford in the 70 and 80s I knew the area quite well so it was lovely to see it all again. If you are in the Romford area again it's worth pausing around St Edwards in Romford Market to see if you can find 'Ducking Stool Court' there really wasn't much to see there just the wonderfully evocative name. I was told that the poor unfortunate women were tested there before eventually being dragged away past the Horned Church to Upminster Common to be hanged for Witchcraft. How true it was I don't know but these were the stories I was told as a child.
@paulhutchins6019
@paulhutchins6019 2 жыл бұрын
What an interesting walk on what would seem at first glance a mundane, ordinary, suburban district. Fascinating facts and revelation to the unitiated. Well done John. 👍🏼
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 2 жыл бұрын
Agree completely Paul. I've got very little interest in the well-known "attractions" but I find it fascinating when John unearths little-known history in these "ordinary" places. Perhaps unfairly, towns like Romford and Upminster don't really conjure-up images of "places to visit" but scratch the surface and it's amazing what turns up. Thanks to John for doing the scratching.😂👍
@grandmasterbeats9732
@grandmasterbeats9732 2 жыл бұрын
Hey john I do a lot a Sikh hymns over in Giddia Park Sikh Gurwara. Fab walk and this brings back those precious memories. As for Wimpys there are 71 outlets As of October 2021, the company remains headquartered in Johannesburg, South Africa where it has 459 outlets, this is followed by the United Kingdom with 71 outlets,
@grantbangkok
@grantbangkok 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic John, When I was a teenager, in the 70's, I boxed for the local Hornchurch club. The badge I proudly wore on my vest was the bull with horns.
@ianmaddams9577
@ianmaddams9577 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most prettiest boroughs. A cracking walk 👍🏻
@jant5737
@jant5737 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, really enjoyed seeing you walk around my local area. I was born and bred here and my parents lived in Hornchurch since the early 1930s. I have the book Hornchurch and Upminster by a local historian Brian Evans, published in 1990, this is what he wrote about St Andrew’s, the Church in question. “The Romans constructed the great Highway to Colchester, clearing the woodland on what became Hornchurch‘s northern boundary. Evidence of Roman occupation has been discovered at Mardyke farm, near the river bream. Even earlier than this there had been local religious sites. One of these was on the small hilltop where Saint Andrew’s Church now stands. An early British trackway connected Ilford and Barking where there were also religious centres with Hornchurch,Upminster and probably Horndon. All these sites were probably centres of pre-Christian worship; the Druids may well have celebrated their rites here, including the sacrifice of bulls. This may account for the incorporation of the word horn into local place names in the early medieval period. Further reinforcement of this symbol as a local icon occurred when monks from the Saint Nicholas and Saint Bernard monastery at Montjoux in Savoy were invited by King Henry II to set up a small Priory in Hornchurch in 1158/9; the motherhouse was designated Cornutem Monasterium or the horned Monastery. It may even have been built on the spot where there had earlier been a temple to Diana, using the symbolism of the Bull’s head.”
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic thanks Jan
@biddylisduff
@biddylisduff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, that's great!
@SeraVicky
@SeraVicky Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I am so grateful for this video. I used to regularly visit hornchurch, Upminster, Romford and Langtons with my (late) parents until we moved away in 1999. I had forgotten a lot, but you just have me back those memories. Especially Langtons. It's park was my favourite place when I was a kid and I used to delight in feeding the squirrels and stroking one of them too.
@Pierlover
@Pierlover 2 жыл бұрын
Great walk! I lived in nearby Cranham and went to school in Hornchurch - it was then called Hornchurch Grammar. I don't know what it is now. We were always told that the horns on the church were a reminder of the local leather and tanning trade in the area. I've no idea if that was true. We used to go to the Christmas Carol service there every year. A lovely church. And I have a wonderful painting of the the Upminster Windmill that my dad did many years ago - it's right beside me!
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Douglas
@adscri
@adscri 2 жыл бұрын
The school is now Emerson Park Academy, but with the same old school crest. Alan Scrivener.
@thewordofgog
@thewordofgog 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh I wondered where Cranham was - mentioned in a lyric by the Upminster Kid himself Ian Dury (yes I know he wasn't born there, just an epithet bestowed on him, I believe, by the music press)
@biddylisduff
@biddylisduff 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewordofgog Ian Dury lived with his Mum and Aunt for a while in Cranham village, lovely old house on Front Lane. Not sure if it's still there, but he wasn't a real Essex boy - the accent fluctuated, but I think he was brilliant! I grew up nearby.
@Pierlover
@Pierlover 2 жыл бұрын
@@biddylisduff I lived just off Front Lane in the 1960's. I think Geoff Hurst had a house there too.
@nicensleazy1892
@nicensleazy1892 2 жыл бұрын
John - We are originally from South Wales . My family worked for the NCB . My grandparents wanted to escape the mining industry and head for a new life. Funny enough, my Grandfathers doctor in a small South Wales village said to my Grandfather, " I've heard Hornchurch is rather nice" So the whole family moved to Hornchurch and I consequently grew up in Hornchurch. You bring back some great memories. St Andrews church also has an amazing scull & crossbones grave in the cemetery , very old indeed. Fond memories of my first kiss under the lych gate of the entrance to the church. Hornchurch was very important in the Battle of Britain ( RAF Hornchurch) . A lot of the Airfield still remains and would be great to incorporate within another video. There is also a museum there now. We were also told as kids that there is an underground tunnel that runs from the church down to the old Burtons sight in the Town Centre.
@paulosrcs185
@paulosrcs185 Жыл бұрын
Ive bin in it it connects to what was dury falls care home its sealed off now
@kevinsugrue
@kevinsugrue 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Upminster. Hornchurch had a medieval tannery, linking it to trades of cattle, a slaughter house, tannery and leather working. There was also a bull baiting pit near St. Andrew's 'horned church.'
@benedictmarshall7031
@benedictmarshall7031 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so missing London. So many parts I missed whilst living there many moons ago. Tokyo has its own merits, but… Another fascinating walk, John.
@stephenquinn6485
@stephenquinn6485 2 жыл бұрын
Just watching your brilliant walk re Wimpy i went to one in Teddington yesterday
@pete8222
@pete8222 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting John. This is where I grew up, and have memories of when the fairkytes art centre was the local library and the queen's theatre was just a playing field where we used to kick a ball about. Langton's park is beautiful and a hidden gem
@Pierlover
@Pierlover 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember Fairkytes being the library. And the old Queen's Theatre and seeing Antony Hopkins before he was really famous!
@biddylisduff
@biddylisduff 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pierlover I saw "The Ghost Train" at the old Queens Theatre, written by the actor who played Private Godfrey in "Dad's Army" - Arnold Ridley.
@jonathancole833
@jonathancole833 2 жыл бұрын
@@biddylisduff So did I - about 20 years ago.
@biddylisduff
@biddylisduff 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh! Round my way again - Havering! Looking forward to this ☺️ Hornchurch!
@upperwearparty
@upperwearparty 2 жыл бұрын
A pleasure to bump and meet last week at the Highbury & Islington pub John
@h.bsfaithfulservant4136
@h.bsfaithfulservant4136 2 жыл бұрын
@Upperwear Party… is this a clue to next week’s walk? Was Mr Rogers carrying his 🎒 🎥 and was he perspiring ever so slightly 😅?
@Heinz57ish
@Heinz57ish 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe it John!!!! You finally did it . . . after how many years? at least 5. But you went one better, you've visited my home town!!! And although I didn't grow up in Havering, I grew up in neighbouring Redbridge, yes we did have adventures with Hainault and Epping right on our doorstep. The great memories are probably the reason why I watch you . . and yes a Wimpey bar is part of those.
@jenniferlevine5406
@jenniferlevine5406 2 жыл бұрын
I have been saving this one and I really enjoyed it! What a splendid walk! Not only is it a beautiful place but so historic, an amazing and important area which has clearly been so for a longtime. It's a great privilege to be shown around. Thank you for always picking such wonderful sites!
@jazmo6662
@jazmo6662 2 жыл бұрын
I got married in Langton House, Hornchurch as have other members of my family. Beautiful venue and grounds for the wedding photos. As a young girl I used to love riding the little 2 carriage train between Romford & Upminster. They used to run once every couple of hours and the front carriage used to have windows so you could see the driver and where you were going down the track. I used to be absolutely fascinated by this. I remember the Queens Theatre being rebuilt and going to see some of the shows when it reopened in the mid 1970's, one of the early ones (maybe first one) was Joseph and the Technicolour Dreamcoat, which Michael Ball starred in before he got really famous. Lots of memories.
@jonathanmadden5112
@jonathanmadden5112 2 жыл бұрын
We were married there too, way back in 1980!
@brandondean8060
@brandondean8060 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Just finished watching coverage of the Platinum Jubilee. Now for a most fantastic walk with John.
@rainbirdoz
@rainbirdoz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for a really interesting walk. I grew up in the Romford area and often visited Hornchurch. I have lived for many years in Australia and now that I am growing old, I miss my homeland very much. Thanks to your walks, including the London ones because my relatives all came from London, I can still enjoy it all. Thanks for the memories…
@jonathanmadden5112
@jonathanmadden5112 2 жыл бұрын
Great walk John. All my wife's family are buried in the graveyard at St Andrew's. They all lived in and around 'The Village' since the early 1800s, and coincidentally my friends brother is the vicar at St Andrews. You walked down Burnway where my wife lived and then went to Langton's where we were married way back in 1980. Thanks so much for this film, great to visit the old haunts and learn so much about them.
@thewalkingman777
@thewalkingman777 2 жыл бұрын
Proper adventure that one! I love walks where you find a variety of remarkable things in seemingly unremarkable places...peeling back the layers of the history of places.
@markpickett5034
@markpickett5034 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I'm blown away with this latest walk! I'm born in Romford, and lived in Hornchurch until my late 30s, so really knew all the places you mentioned right from the start by the Durham Arms through to the Tithe Barn in Upminster, many comments already mention my own experiences with the area. One I will add though, having had many a pub crawls from the Harrow, to the Bull and to others around Hornchurch over the years my choice of hangover cure the next morning was always the Wimpy breakfast! I'm already looking forward to your next video, wherever that may be!
@petersaula2304
@petersaula2304 2 жыл бұрын
Hornchurch, Upminster, Lakeside, Loughton, there are Wimpy bars.
@mctasty6094
@mctasty6094 2 жыл бұрын
Early 80s my Friday evening treat a trip too wimpy cheese burger, chips and a knickerbocker glory. Se16 the blue bermondsey Amen.
@jackpayne4658
@jackpayne4658 2 жыл бұрын
There's a ghost story by M R James, 'A View From a Hill'. In it, the hero is loaned a pair of binoculars made by a local wizard, filled with a distillation of dead men's bones. With them, he is able to see into the past - buildings which have since been demolished, etc. Your videos accomplish something similar, but without the binoculars or the bones. (Just as well, probably.)
@touriel8943
@touriel8943 2 жыл бұрын
I read that. Quite eerie.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great story Jack - I need to read some M R James
@BN-hk6wf
@BN-hk6wf 2 жыл бұрын
What a powerful analogy - get just what you mean
@diogenesagogo
@diogenesagogo 2 жыл бұрын
Montague Rhodes James. Academic & ghost story writer. Simply the best.
@markofsaltburn
@markofsaltburn 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment.
@2Sugarbears
@2Sugarbears 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, I really loved this one. Tithe barns, windmills, weird churches, lynch-gates et al.
@morriganwitch
@morriganwitch 2 жыл бұрын
Was at the Stonehenge exhibition today be home soon and have this to look forwards too xxx
@touriel8943
@touriel8943 2 жыл бұрын
I see there was some blow back about it, but Pathe news 1946 had her being inducted as a 'bard' in the middle of a stone circle. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZuYa8h716etqas.html
@lesliegprice6652
@lesliegprice6652 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video my grandparents lived in Romford and my mum worked at Hornchurch Hospital during the war , also Hornchurch Airfield had many casualties, wonderful churches . Thanks 👍
@JTTW1455
@JTTW1455 4 ай бұрын
I like your theory, association with Mithras. Thanks for the scenic walk full of interesting sights.
@roxysimmons
@roxysimmons 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful walk as always John. Thank you for taking us along.
@lizstevenson7801
@lizstevenson7801 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be your best video ever John, I thoughroly enjoyed it. The history goung back to Roman times and St. Andrews Church was so interesting, and some of those houses and cottages were beautiful. Mystery tours are your new forte, loved it. Thank you so much 💕🇦🇺
@laurelgreentriumph
@laurelgreentriumph 4 ай бұрын
Growing up in Upminster in the 60s we often went into Romford on the short "Push & Pull" rail line. The station halfway along used to be called Emerson Park Halt. I don't know when it lost the Halt but I think it should be reinstated! I think it reflected the fact that you had to flag the train down if you wanted to board there.
@touriel8943
@touriel8943 2 жыл бұрын
0:54 I love how at the word MYSTERY, the man with flourescent orange cardi and 1 sock looks straight into the camera!
@XNA2NW3
@XNA2NW3 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t been to a Wimpy in years. Can’t believe they are still around. As usual, I learned so much by watching you. Also, shoutout to Roxanne for livening things up a bit.
@williamrobinson7435
@williamrobinson7435 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful as ever! Thank you for this very enjoyable film John (not forgetting Roxanne!).. Being, as I am, from E. Yorkshire, which is stuffed with Norman Gothic ecclesiastical architecture, I'm not so surprised to see a bovine where you'd expect a cross.. Some of the stuff in these churches (like the miserecords, under the carved wooden lift-up choir stall seats) depicts scenes which, let's say, don't exactly go with the flow as regards biblical tenets, very secular INDEED, let alone Pagan.. 🤣which cannot fail to amuse, when you see them for yourself.. Great film! Nice one. 👍
@jonasranson7677
@jonasranson7677 2 жыл бұрын
I’d never connected the idea of Hornchurch taking its name from a ‘horned church’. But it makes absolute sense. I have been to the church in recent years but had not noticed the bulls head bizarrely. Some of my earliest memories are of Hornchurch, having lived there as a child for a couple of years from the age of 3. I remember my mother taking me for walks to the Windmill. She used to tell me that a Troll lived there, which did spook me a little it has to be said.
@anthonymoore6009
@anthonymoore6009 2 жыл бұрын
Different sort of explore this week, really good and informative. Spotted the ghost in the window just after 14 minutes.
@christinetaylor6179
@christinetaylor6179 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this walk very much and was so excited when Langtons came on the screen. I was married there in 1970. I lived in Elm Park so I was familiar with Hornchurch and now after all these years I know where the name came from. Thank you for taking me there.
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Жыл бұрын
I love the enthusiasm for the novel walk . The delight of coming across the unexpected ✌️.
@terryblack2219
@terryblack2219 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much John I will never look at Upminster and Hornchurch through the same eyes such a beautiful place I’ve passed through it many times I never saw anything you’ve shown me this evening thank you
@minkwells8434
@minkwells8434 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, there's still a Wimpy in Streatham. Same dude running it for years and years.
@Curvesohyeah
@Curvesohyeah 2 жыл бұрын
He's such a nice man.
@minkwells8434
@minkwells8434 2 жыл бұрын
@@Curvesohyeah Yes he is!
@michaeloneill9831
@michaeloneill9831 2 жыл бұрын
Living for 12 Years in Masefield Drive Upminster so visited the Tithe Bar Museum several times.
@raymondrichards4888
@raymondrichards4888 2 жыл бұрын
On farmland between Hornchurch and Rainham (Essex) was where the WW2 Hornchurch airdrome was. It is now covered by a housing estate whose roads go by names associated with the airdrome.
@GRHDA
@GRHDA 2 жыл бұрын
Aerodrome,
@raymondrichards4888
@raymondrichards4888 2 жыл бұрын
@@GRHDA You are so right.....predictive text x2
@chrisdunn3817
@chrisdunn3817 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a student at the Royal College of Music the Wimpy Special Grill was my Sunday dinner
@debb4809
@debb4809 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, we've got 2 Wimpys in Suffolk. If you're ever up here, they're in Sudbury and Felixstowe. You still get your burger on a plate here🍔😋😊
@welshcake8086
@welshcake8086 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous walk to watch while recovering from Covid. Visited Upminster with a friend, but must go back to see the tithe barn too. Thanks so much
@Suho1004
@Suho1004 2 жыл бұрын
What a great walk! A true feast for the curious. Roxanne livened things up as well!
@stephenpinder9567
@stephenpinder9567 2 жыл бұрын
Superlative video, as always. More Roxanne please.
@nickbwalks
@nickbwalks 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Wimpy in Romford and I believe in Collier Row. I used to work in the Romford Wimpy when I was at school in the 80s on Saturdays. keep up the brilliant work John.
@andrewwood9635
@andrewwood9635 2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable. Both St Andrew and St Laurence are generally open to visitors in the daytime, not always the case with outer London churches.
@markriley4665
@markriley4665 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Wimpy Bar in Watney Street Market John. Great walk again John. I have been missing you on Sunday.
@artdecoy
@artdecoy 2 жыл бұрын
Great content John. I live in Gidea Park and grew up in Hornchurch so these locations are familiar to me. Next to St Andrews graveyard is the dell which has an interesting history. The graveyard also has some war graves. Did you spot the swastika design in the foyer to Upminster bridge station? James
@briwall1
@briwall1 2 жыл бұрын
I was also hoping John might spot the swastika on the entrance floor to Upminster station. Of course it was a Hindu sign for peace back then, before the nazis started to use it.
@dominicheaney9242
@dominicheaney9242 3 ай бұрын
True enough, but the station was built in 1935. Fair to say the symbol was used as a sign of "modernity and progress" in the early 20th century in Europe: some military air forces that were not in anyway aligned with the Nazis used it too, while I've seen editions of Kipling's poetry in which it was used as a decorative symbol on the cover. But in England, in 1935....it's incongruous at least. There used to be some splendid art deco lamps outside the station too, but only the posts remain. Such a pity they haven't been maintained and restored.
@mamnisel4815
@mamnisel4815 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting walk today through Upminster and Hornchurch with some very old properties on the way.This area is full of History!!
@vermeerofdelftscotlandwalk3294
@vermeerofdelftscotlandwalk3294 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting walk, and fascinating church. I think that I now know where Hornchurch got its name from. I see that Langtons house has an Orangery at 32.45. We've now got Aldi instead, which is less glamorous but more convenient.
@alphabarbs
@alphabarbs 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Wimpy on Wembley Park Drive, not far away from Wembley Park station. Visited before going to a gig. Good, solid plate of food there, and nice service 🙂
@keithpymer5557
@keithpymer5557 2 жыл бұрын
I got married in st Andrews church almost 50 years ago. Beautiful church
@harishk4033
@harishk4033 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video John. Just love the way you explain historical and factual things accessibly. The music always adds to the tone of the videos too. Can’t wait for the next instalment, wherever that walk may be……
@heidismit5261
@heidismit5261 2 жыл бұрын
What a walk! And a beautiful video. Very inspiring. Roxanne thank you too!
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
many thanks Heidi
@rogerhitchcock
@rogerhitchcock 2 жыл бұрын
Great video John. I grew up in Havering and moved away 22 years ago ! Lots of familiar locations and memories.
@briwall1
@briwall1 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for a great knowledgeable walk John. I’ve lived in Horncurch since 2007 and love the hidden gem that is Langtons house around the corner from me. My daughter attends the school opposite the windmill and was impressed as was I with the speed of sound fact. She’ll be earning a few brownie points at school with new fact!
@TGVScribe
@TGVScribe 2 жыл бұрын
So enjoyed this, John! Thank you for taking me along. :)
@dominicdelargy6461
@dominicdelargy6461 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John (and Roxanne), I really enjoyed your walk from Romford to Upminster. I grew up in Hornchurch in the 1970s near St Andrews Church, we played in The park, Ingrebourne valley and watched the Push and Pull Train. There was a rumour that a tunnel ran from St Andrews Church to Dury Falls House on the corner with Wingletye Lane during the reformation but this has never been proved.
@patm2480
@patm2480 2 жыл бұрын
I have literally just come back from this church! I used to live in Hornchurch and got married in St Andrews
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@ashleysgaze
@ashleysgaze 2 жыл бұрын
Super walk, John. Very nice ecclesiastical theme! Cheers!
@MrInfinitefinality
@MrInfinitefinality 2 жыл бұрын
Proper adventure indeed ! Just what i needed, thank you !
@terryvialls6512
@terryvialls6512 2 жыл бұрын
Hi john, really enjoyed this evening’s video Grew up in Rainham so very familiar with Hornchurch Love the way you enjoy walking in Havering Lol I went to air cadets opposite the windmill , brought back memories seeing that again. Thanks for a lovely evening’s viewing.
@scottkendall6672
@scottkendall6672 6 ай бұрын
I used to live in Romford and walk some of these places. I didn't for years have any idea that what I did have a name until someone called me a psychogeographer . Love the videos.
@stevegee7593
@stevegee7593 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John another great video. You mention when looking at the Queens theatre. That there was not one in Waltham Forest, but there was. It was in Lloyd Park. I was in 3 pantos there in the late 1980's. My two Great Nephew's tried to save it, but the council could not raise the money.
@Signals927
@Signals927 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Upminster Bridge 1943/45 and always thought Hornchurch was named after the Bulls Head on the church so thanks for the info after all this time via your video which I thank you for because it brought back a lot of memories of my childhood around this area. Oh yes I forgot to mention regarding the Wimpy Bar I used to use one at Gants Hill in my teens.
@Sue-rh4qj
@Sue-rh4qj 2 жыл бұрын
There's a wimpy in Loughton and one in upminster.
@peterspencer396
@peterspencer396 2 жыл бұрын
Great walk! Good energy John!
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter
@peterobrien7179
@peterobrien7179 2 жыл бұрын
Wimpy Bars are still a thing out here in Metroland. There is a Wimpy a few steps from Ruislip Underground and another one a few minutes from Eastcote Underground. Plus here in Ruislip , within a few minutes walk from the Wimpy through streets of Ruislip Cottage Society housing are the village pond, 13th century church, medieval manor house, tithe barn, moat, River Pinn and lots more. One or two old pubs too...all the best, Peter O'Brien.
@archiereacts
@archiereacts 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was born on Fillibrook Rd E11, raised in Upper Walthamstow ( where I told you about the river under the flats) and now live in hornchurch. So I'm finding all your videos so interesting!
@thomasbates2326
@thomasbates2326 2 жыл бұрын
John, there's a Wimpy burger joint in Streatham, on no.160 Streatham High Road, opposite the Odeon Cinema... been there since 1954 or so.....
@bakerloobadboy
@bakerloobadboy 2 жыл бұрын
Very few Wimpy's left these days, however I think there's one in Upminster as well. Can't believe you went to Upminster and never mentioned Ian Dury. Some time ago the LB Havering were thinking of changing their name to "Havering, a London Borough" to try and distance themselves from the capital and sound more countrified
@shadytube84
@shadytube84 2 жыл бұрын
Gutted.. wish I knew you were on a mission round Romford cos I’d have loved to come and bump into you!!
@robbojax2025
@robbojax2025 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful video. My parents were married in St Andrews. I lived there for a couple of years and never knew about the horned bull. I doubt my mother or her family did either. Top marks again.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robbo
@brighteastman4602
@brighteastman4602 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the delightful and educational ramble. I’m living in California, and yearn to return to historical London
@JagBetty
@JagBetty 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic adventure John….that bulls head sure was a mystery!! The windmill (giant) was amazing.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
cheers Jag - hope you're well
@texano1957
@texano1957 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, you make some great videos that are very interesting. Keep up the great work…
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian
@marty9011
@marty9011 2 жыл бұрын
That was such a fascinating walk. Loved it. Thanks.
@runningforasthma_
@runningforasthma_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video John. The Queen's Theatre in Hornchurch was just given Grade II listing to coincide with the jubilee, and what a magnificent piece of architecture it is.
@QatarSandMan
@QatarSandMan 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, a real pleasure to watch. I remember a Wimpy Bar in Green Lanes Harringay that was licensed, you could have a glass of wine with your burger. My memory is from the late 1960's early 70's. I travel to South Africa a fair bit, Wimpy is thriving there.
@damedavidfrith55
@damedavidfrith55 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another cracking ramble with such impressive history,there are 66 wimpy locations in the uk ,14 in the city of London alone
@duncanwanders4209
@duncanwanders4209 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, John ...Wimpy Bars in London ? Well, as part of my project to walk entire London Underground, I walked from King's Cross to Morden. At the end of the walk, and never having been as exhausted my life, the Wimpy next to Morden station was a most welcoming sight. One can read about this in my book "No Oyster Card Required" (!!!!)
@davidlewis8742
@davidlewis8742 2 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous video to watch from my couch in Adelaide South Australia, thank you John.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
thanks David
@lindasueanderson8024
@lindasueanderson8024 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that 2022 will be the year where I will have new favorite video each week, right down to the very tiny railroad with just 3 stops.
@biddylisduff
@biddylisduff 2 жыл бұрын
It was originally known as the "Push and Pull" as it literally goes forward then back on same track! Used to live there, travelled on it as a child!
@lindasueanderson8024
@lindasueanderson8024 2 жыл бұрын
@@biddylisduff that is delightful!
@stuartoldrey882
@stuartoldrey882 2 жыл бұрын
My wife and I were married in St Andrews. Thanks for checking out Hornchurch, which is often overlooked. Fun fact: the Wimpy in town predated McDonalds and is still there while Maccies closed.
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 2 жыл бұрын
"wow" , another wonderful vlog , thanks
@ToxikWaster
@ToxikWaster 4 ай бұрын
Hey John, I am the grandson of the owner of the "Foye" House seen around 6:00. My Nan still lives there and it certainly has a story, she has the original deed which is of course dated more than a century ago. I wish I had more to share but I can find the information if anyone is interested. The house certainly has a story, for me it includes, accidently leaving the tap running (oops) causing water damage, Sunday roasts fit for a king surrounded by family, and plenty of growing up. My Granddad was one of the biggest West Ham supporters you'll meet and held a season ticket, some of my fondest memories are going to matches with him. He refused to get his name on his seat but I had the privilege of using his bond ticket when West Ham beat Man United at home most recently. Obviously the story to the house is much more than that, and I will get more information from my Nan and Mother if you're interested. My Nan has lived there for decades and is in her 90s. Thank you for the video, C
@thfccfht
@thfccfht 2 жыл бұрын
in my Opinion one of your finest videos...loved it so much....thanks John.
@JohnRogersWalks
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
many thanks - I really enjoyed making this
@nancywysemen7196
@nancywysemen7196 2 жыл бұрын
lovely. noticed music at end. special.
@Stevegrass
@Stevegrass 2 жыл бұрын
Still a Wimpy in Loughton high road
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