Same honestly.

Sellers can't advertise repro cartridges because that's copyright infringement and Nintendo could have their listings taken down. Most reproduction cartridge sellers are likely counting on people having the common sense to realize what they're actually buying, and for everyone else: So what? The reproduction works exactly the same as an original, so why do you care?

@@NerdRise The repro works the same in the sense that it has the same game in the ROM. Otherwise they're inferior build quality and are known for crashing/locking up. Add to that the fact they usually have coin batteries in games that otherwise don't on real copies and you're very much buying a lesser product. You'd be better off emulating at that point.

Just get a flash cart at that point. No sense buying individual fakes.

​@MrPoeGhost, I hate to burst your bubble. But clearly, you don't know how most N64 games save work, Only a select few games use batteries and most used flash memory. Mostly bigger games like Zelda have batteries. Plus I don't see how anyone would think these are original, any one who cares about it being original would know the price is too low.

Yeah, in the early 2000s it was easy to find all kinds of NES games for like 2-to-5 bucks apiece, no matter how popular or obscure they were. Funcoland sold Mario/Duck Hunt for _a quarter_ . And that place was considered expensive! Imagine any place selling a copy of Wii Sports for a dollar these days.

Yeah, it's flash carts and emulators all the way for me. No point in hunting-down and wasting some money on a game I probably won't even like. It's easier to find hidden gems that way too.

The retro game prices are insane. Game that were 5 to 10 dollars 30 years ago are now 30 to 40 dollars. At this point you might as well save up 150 to 200 dollars to get a flash cart for your system. It's expensive, but getting the entire library is worth it.

the games themselves in the carts are the same. The difference depends on if you're going to play them or join the scammers.

​@@marccaselle8108you can get the entire library 4 free and make your own flash cart or just get an emulator and play them on your phone with a Bluetooth controller 🎮😁

Is that still false advertisement?.... 😂

That's not really a red flag. There are a number of small time repair guys that buy up cheap messed up carts and fix them. Not in this case of course.

Dont see how its a red flag when it works and its cheap....Price clearly shows its not real and a average intelligence buyer would know this but hey its a deal even for the dumb buyer , this is a freaking deal

@@prodigy455 Again it is stated as refurbished original device, and it is actually new replica. Means listing is a fake, no matter if it is working or not.

@@ronlevon4294 yea it’s called reading between the lines and the guy not trying to have his page shutdown, like I said that’s simple logic but grown people wanna act like they are scammed just because they either didn’t think or at least do their research . Honestly as long as the prices are cheap , the guy is doing everyone a service.

Also the listing said "Refurnished" lol

yep, the description is clearly not mispelled

Don't give them ideas 😂 (too late anyway)

Yeah, kinda hard to have 190 copies of a single game

Actually there are specialized sellers who buy and refurb old games. So, yes and no. If a seller basically advertises refurbed 100% originals, they have to deliver. Hundreds of good reviews and high resolution pictures are a pretty good indicator for honest sellers. Most fakers get caught pretty fast, if they ship repros.

Yeah, that was a huge red flag. I usually try to buy on eBay from someone who is clearly just a random person selling what they personally owned rather than an online business.

Not all stay gone though, I can give you atleast 10 sellers who will list the game as ‘very good’ or ‘new’, and will mention in the description that it’s not for collectors.

Exactly. It's just about being able to play the game for some nostalgia.

Depends on the PCB. Some are decent enough, and have good EEPROMs on them. Some are "whatever we could find lying around" and are likely not going to be pleased running a 3.3V chip at 5V for very long. Others are so shoddy that I wouldn't trust them in my OG consoles. If it's not worth the authentic cart prices to you, just pay the money for a respectable flash cart and be done with it. Or use the fakes as ornaments and nothing else.

Yeah, some of these games are just outta reach at this point. I really want Chrono Trigger, but I can't justify the price...I've played it via emulator on my phone years ago as a test to see if I'd like it, and I loved it! But again, these prices! I'm not sure if I'm doing an everdrive cart or a repro yet, but I know I can't pay $200 plus for a real cart. As long as I can play on original hardware and my Sony PVM, I'm happy.

​@@grandmaster1004Think you can get the playstation Chrono Trigger for about $40.

Wow you guys basically want reproductions for free. This is ridiculously cheap, most handmade ones usually go for around $35~50 for NES/SNES/GEN.

It's more of the issue of how they are sold. A reproduction is ok, but selling it as a real copy isn't. The people who sell reproductions that way are also less interested in quantity control. Honesty goes a long ways.

Call it what it is - these are simply counterfeits. Reproduction would be someone (likely Nintendo) releasing the same product again, including using the original chips and pcb layout. New shell castings, labels, completely different hardware (if anything, this is what kills it being a "reproduction"), and a random internet rom written to a non-original chip - counterfeit. No one would consider a knockoff N64 console system a reproduction. It'd be a "clone" if it looks different but plays original games, or a "counterfeit" of they try to deceive by making it look like the original. The price that they want for these fake carts is also ridiculous - those things should be $5USD at most, yet are listed closer to $20USD. I assume one could get some free carts if they were to buy something that's not labeled as a fake, and a return is created without the seller wanting to pay for the return shipping; although I wouldn't trust your saves to such a cartridge. I also doubt a failed fake cartridge would damage your console, but that's always a possibility too. An Everdrive 64 would be better than having a shelf full of fake carts imo, and in the same arena of legality as having roms on these individual carts.

I bought a cart once that ended up being counterfeit. Raised it with the seller, who pretended not to understand how that was possible, and also absurd that mere mortals could write EEPROMs, and also it must've been me who swapped them, but also "I never said it was an authentic cart" because why WOULDN'T somebody pay genuine-cart money for a knock-off? I think they got swindled, tried to pass it on to a sucker, and got caught. I would feel bad for them if they weren't intentionally ripping someone else off.

I'm for the copy games if the seller is honest because how much people want for the real N64 games is getting bad with prices.

Yep, I agree, repro is fine, if advertised as is.

That's so typical of Asian knock offs in general, they never put in full effort it's like 90% and never fully gets there as they cheap out on ridiculous things or miss/skip details. It blows my mind if they spent a LITTLE more effort on the things they made it would be close to top notch.

That’s the first thing I always look for, the embossed number in the back label

@narutobroken it's etched rather than embossed, but yeah, that's what I always do. I also check the placement of the numbers

@@huldu The thing is, it seems like there's 150% effort on some things, and 20% effort on others. I can never understand why some details are so meticulous while others are so blatantly just wrong.

No because you can swap backs.

Nope. My Repros have them, too. Bought them as Repros, so that's fine.

@@blackpete Really? I've never seen a repro that bothers to emboss the numbers since almost nobody looks for them. I've always used the embossed numbers as a quick easy way to tell if it's legit. Still, if they're missing, it's definitely suspicious.

@@aaronkosharskyswhiteknight5224 you can always put a pirate PCB in the original shell that is correct. So the safest way to check for the authenticity is fo look the eage connector .

@@Dave01Rhodes I've seen them the fakes have the code, but they're scanned into the label, it's not an actual dented in number.

Sisko rocking Garraks shit in his shop only to realize my man did what he asked was WILD

Ah, a man of nintendo culture. :P

You not getting the point of the video ???

@@cappaculla The fact that someone upvoted your (Grammatically incorrect) comment is nearly as pathetic as you missing the very obvious joke.

The issue for me is that these are usually unreliable and lose save data. I recommend people just buy a chinese everdrive clone for the N64 instead. For the price of about 2-3 of these fake carts you can buy a flashcart with every n64 game and the saves are stored on the SD card so no worries about a corrupted save.

? They haven't made them for a long time now, so no loss of income for Nintendo..

the way he said it popped into my head the second i saw that picture hahaha

agreed! ITS A Faaaaaaaaaaaaake! That Romulan was not happy. Probably less happy when Garek and Sisko wacked him.

Never get Nintendo 64 games from one of Garak's friends

Yeah. I got a cart recently that is a fake. It doesnt even boot up any game, just a yellow screen. I am wondering if maybe it just straight up isnt programmed? It also has a wire going from the battery to a pin on a chip though so I have NO idea if its even potentially functional.

eBay doesn't care about bootleg games. I've reported several accounts that sell bootleg games, pirated media (like full series on USB, the kinda stuff that's available for free if you know where to look) and they don't care. They're happy as long as they get their sale fees. The only way they'll do something, most of the time, is if the copyright owner complains directly to them.

Could the term "Remake" be kosher, or would there be conflicts with that as well?

@ThatLovelyRose I have a store that sells gaming stuff, and anything not listed as authentic is taken down. Ebay is supposed to only sell authentic merch. However, Chinese sellers spam ebay with "authentic " merchandise that even have pictures that indicate repro. Their feedback/ reviews complain about counterfeit merchandise, but if you report them, ebay leaves them up. Ebay makes roughly 30% of every sale, and these Chinese repro sellers post fake $80 games for $39 in massive numbers. As long as the title says authentic, they are cool.

No way he wins that, ebay doesn't really care about bootlegs specially at relatively low prices.

Yeah mine is E and I've had it for 20 years, so very unlikely to be a fake

This I completely agree with but it's never going to change and things are only going to get more and more expensive as it drives up prices.

People are the problem. People are why games like Pokemon Crystal are going for $150 now. They just pay whatever.

Somebody here doesn't understand how economics works. If a product is overpriced, you will know, because nobody will buy it. If people buy it, it's not overpriced. People pay more when there are fewer available at lower prices. That's supply and demand in a nutshell. Economics does not abide by the "that's more than I want it to cost" model.

@@j.d.714 OK. Explain to me like I'm 5, then. Let's say I have a copy of SMW, and I post a listing and want to charge three hundred for it. I put it online, and there are ten other listings for less than 50. What are the chances someone will take mine, assuming they're all essentially the same condition? Probably pretty low, right? Why would you voluntarily spend 6 times as much? Now let's say there is one listing for 50, and I put mine in for 300. The cheap one goes, leaving just mine. Somebody really wants it, and decides, eh, screw it, I'll take it. We've now got evidence that someone will bite at 50, and someone will bite at 300. How, if you have any functioning logic whatsoever, do you not determine that it's obviously worth 300? Maybe not to _everyone._ I'm sure there would be plenty of people who see that and say, NOPE. But I don't need EVERYone to think it's worth that much. I need ONE person to think it is. If SOMEone will bite, then I haven't yet even found the ceiling and might have been able to ask for more. Perhaps others see this and decide they want in on the action, and list theirs for 250, to undercut me and still get more for theirs. Maybe somebody decides they have a copy they don't value THAT much, and lists it, because hey, strike while the iron is hot. Maybe they saw them selling at 50 and weren't tempted to let it go -- yet -- just in case it went higher, or because it wasn't yet valuable enough to give it up. If that's not supply and demand at work, well then hey, maybe you should teach the class?

@@nickwallette6201 To add to what j.d.714 said: these were available at rock-bottom prices for 15 years. Jacking up the price on the same used goods is opportunism, not the invisible hand of the market. And the supply does not justify the price even at peak demand. Especially for Mario. Or even for Pokemon, as DakovP points out. (And I say this as someone who is probably a bit more lenient on pricing than I ought to be.)

this guy would probably feel bad about using roms

Yes, he does mention how many collectors have ethical issues with using reproduction carts, so same might go for roms. Plus there is something satisfying about having original carts and building a collection.

It't not like it's a rare part though, the cartridge was $20. That chip is probably less than $3 and available in massive quantities.

@@volvo09 Sure, available in massive quantities, but probably requires you to buy them in massive quantities too

@@volvo09 are these even reprogramable? aren't the cheap ones single time use?

It's a CPLD, not an FPGA. They can't do the complex logic of an FPGA, and are considerably cheaper, but they're great as address-decoders.

Also, this model is old, and looks like it was recycled. Don't think they're made any more.