The New 2021 Emonda SL 6 (PRO) | Ride Impressions | Is the new Emonda too heavy?

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Todd Jones

Todd Jones

Күн бұрын

In this video I ride the new Emonda SL 6 Pro. We talk first impressions, the new frame design compared to the outgoing model, and we have a discussion about frame weight.
Navigation Time Codes:
The new frame/geometry and fit changes: 1:35
Ride impressions: 4:38
Bike Weight Discussion: 8:28
Whats next: 12:20
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For more information on the bike and the parts including some HD photos and a write up, check out my website
www.landofbikes.com
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The Bike:
2021 Trek Emonda SL 6 PRO 56cm
Upgrades:
- Stock
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Media:
Webpage: Landofbikes.com
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Happy riding!
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I am not endorsed or paid by any company featured in this video, the opinions expressed are mine only, and are based on over 10 years of riding 100s of different bikes.

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@Noobynoobynash
@Noobynoobynash 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your upgrades.
@KerryLange
@KerryLange 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to your video on getting the SL6 lighter than the SLR6 for less money.
@stvb2123
@stvb2123 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Really helpful dissection of the weight issue. Love the obvious passion you have for your work.
@alanhill7965
@alanhill7965 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't be more pleased with my sl7
@kaizen81
@kaizen81 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Good technical and we'll thoughtful review.
@LAShooters1
@LAShooters1 4 жыл бұрын
Nice insightful review. Thank you.
@theFisforFrancis
@theFisforFrancis 4 жыл бұрын
That RSL 37 teaserrrr!! 😱😱😱
@philipmorrissey9156
@philipmorrissey9156 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent well rounded review 👍
@Bikes-guitars
@Bikes-guitars 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update video, I completely agree, weight is not the be all and end all of a bike, sure it’s always nice to feel a light bike, but it’s just a tiny piece in the overall weight combination of bike and rider, I have 2 Domane’s one SL6 with mudguards for winter and an SL7 Etap for summer, also 2 Bianchis, an Oltre aero bike and a Specialissima weighing 6.8 kilos all up including pedals, Garmin mounts and bottle cages etc, I’m no faster on the light Specialissima than I am on the Aero bike, in fact in some circumstances it’s the other way around, that gain from the lack of weight on the climb is outweighed by the outright speed of the aero bike on the flat sections! I can see myself buying a new Emonda as I would like a do it all bike on Disc brakes, I have considered an SLR but think it will be an SL7 Etap, and probably I will just buy the frame and build it myself with my choice of components as the 20mm set back seat post needs to be changed for the 5mm set back for me, and those 100mm reach bars are just too long, as you suggest with carefully selected components I think I can build an SL7 Etap at around 7.5 kilos including pedals and Garmin mounts etc which really isn’t bad, but there is no way any average rider can tell any difference by saving a few hundred grams, as you noted we stuff our pockets with things, add heavy water bottles etc, my bike feels no different on full bottles to how it does on empty bottles, I noted that when doing an Everesting last summer, not carrying bottles to begin with and lasted being forced to carry bottles because of the heat, the bike felt just the same, yet I am still one of those who will try to build as light as possible 😂 it’s all in our minds when it comes to weight! 😊
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that, it’s nice to hear feedback from experienced riders! Let me know how that Emonda build goes when you get around to it.
@shwndh
@shwndh 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review if this bike. It seems the 2022 is not much different. I test rode one (SL5) and now it's burning a hole in my pocket. I agree that although it's not the lightest bike, it is a better made bike. Really comfortable, fast, stable, handles well, efficient. I really appreciate the 1.5 geometry, threaded BB, and the seat mast as opposed to the hidden wedge that seems to always creek and make noise. Also, the traditional but forward looking shape of the frame as opposed to the popular but ugly dropped stays. Trek did their homework and made a bike for the people. It overlaps as a great allrounder and great upgrade platform to be make race ready. The SL5 is the best value to upgrade wheels and tires IMO but a great bike overall. BTW, your buddies Domane is phyre!
@fernandocavazos2761
@fernandocavazos2761 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike ! Just tried it at my local shop and I loved it .
@brend2549
@brend2549 2 жыл бұрын
Hi probably the best videos I have seen on this bike. When is the next video on this bike coming? I won a 2021 SLR6 and am intrigued about your upgrades.
@davidjohnson8054
@davidjohnson8054 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, thanks for the review, I have an Emonda SL5 2016, I added carbon Aeolus 5's, but I WANT the SL6 Pro!!!
@paulwhitehead1190
@paulwhitehead1190 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant review!! Thanks mate 👍🏻
@maxheadroom9014
@maxheadroom9014 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. Just bought this exact bike today (cheaper than the 2023 model). Swapped out the wheels for a set of Fulcrum Racing Zero Carbon DB units in 28mm. Carbon bars are going on and a better saddle. I too have a Madone 2012/13 (the factory white, grey, red and light blue). Swapped out the brakes for Ultegra and have Campy Shamals C17 units. One of the best bikes ever made IMO. Hoping this Emonda setup will rival my Madone. Cheers
@demiegamboa8185
@demiegamboa8185 4 жыл бұрын
Cool bike you got there pal 👍👍👍
@JC-pt2tw
@JC-pt2tw 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Vancouver and I should be getting my 2022 emonda sl6 soon. What I did before it even arrived at Thea tore was order the pro 37s. The flagship trek store in my area are able to install for free and charge the difference between the stock elites and pros. Great vis
@adamgriss2025
@adamgriss2025 2 жыл бұрын
Very balanced review👍🏻
@markakin3742
@markakin3742 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great vid, like your style. liked subbed..
@RolfAalders
@RolfAalders 3 жыл бұрын
@Land of Bikes Really looking forward to the follow-up video on this Emonda. I've bought the SL6 myself but it'll only be delivered in January, so using KZfaq during the wait. Big compliments on your content. By now I've seen a lot of videos on the new Emonda, but your content is best! Thanks
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@luttamaguziahmedbabumba3578
@luttamaguziahmedbabumba3578 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to have this bike ,but can't afford it.can it be delivered to Uganda any way?
@RolfAalders
@RolfAalders 3 жыл бұрын
Can we expect an follow-up video on this Emonda soon?
@paulgrundy1501
@paulgrundy1501 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my SL6 Pro for a month - it’s a brilliant bike and agree with all your comments in the review - incidentally I switched out the wheels to my Roval CL50 with 28mm GP5000 setup tubeless - the difference is amazing. Bike climbs really well but the real difference comes on the flats, you really do notice the details Trek have added to make the bike more aero - it may be a few grams heavier but that’s more than made up for (and then some) by the aero gains - you used the word ‘balanced’ which sums it up perfectly for me. Great review 👍
@thatboywong11b71
@thatboywong11b71 2 жыл бұрын
Are you trying to sell your factory wheels by chance?
@mkviz
@mkviz 4 жыл бұрын
2021's are about 60 days out. There few models are out there, but hard to find. Lucky you were able to find a bike in your size
@2radbraunsi864
@2radbraunsi864 3 жыл бұрын
Thx 🙏 for your advice concerning the geometry of that new emonda..😊👌🏻 I am was also Little bit scared of the reach & stack relationship...🧐🤔 Having short 78cm legs, but long torso upper body of 98cm ....i am still thinking of size 52 or 54...but that video showed enough spacers being placed....so i am calmed 🤪🤪👌🏻😉
@christiantaylor7150
@christiantaylor7150 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. Quick question: did you stick with the 20mm setback for the seat post or switch to the 5mm?
@richardhill9944
@richardhill9944 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I actually came across your video just after getting this exact model (minus the Aeolus wheelset) so it’s good to hear what people think of the mid range 2021 Emonda. I’ve done 90miles on mine from when I got it 3 days ago, and fully agree on your comments. It really is keen to turn, great downhill and has been a joy so far. Loads of feedback from friends on the design (especially no drop seat stays!). I’ve moved from a Synapse, so it was always going to be different, which also worried me a bit about the dimensions. My 54 came with a long seat mast so had to back and change it. Thanks again, I don’t regret my decision at all and good to see someone else with similar thoughts on the bike 👍
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your comments!
@richardhill9944
@richardhill9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@g4rymw110 its a tough one to call. at 5'8 id probably lean toward the 52. I have long arms and inseam of 32". At a 54cm for me it is noticeably longer than my previous bike like i said, so it depends on what your are used to. now i've done nearly 500 miles on it i don't regret my choice of bike or size. i've lowered the front 2 spacers and still feel fine on it. perhaps a set of wheels in the near future to replace the standard Paradigms...
@g4rymw110
@g4rymw110 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Hill Thanks 👍🏼
@markrobinson3920
@markrobinson3920 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Hill hi can you help with frame size. I’m 180cm and was thinking of a 56 frame but maybe 54? Any advice appreciated thanks
@richardhill9944
@richardhill9944 3 жыл бұрын
@@markrobinson3920 i'm 5'9 and fit my 54 right. i've just ticked over 500 miles now on it and don't get back ache etc. a 56 for me would be too big for sure. As the video says the geometry is a tad unusual, so i'd suggest trying it out. perhaps even at 5'9 / 180cm you may even look smaller...
@duchessofdementia7113
@duchessofdementia7113 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the regular SL6 model soon. I think it makes more sense, because you get to shave off a lot of weight when you pick your own wheels. I did some digging and without even touching the groupset (or selling both my kidneys) i can shave it down to 7,5 kg. that's pretty damn cool in my opinion. great review, thanks !
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! you'll have to watch my upgrade video when I upload it, basically i've reduced the weight quite a bit doing what you just said. Thanks for watching.
@duchessofdementia7113
@duchessofdementia7113 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToddJones awesome, can't wait. I really like your content man, keep it coming 👌
@mikael-xr6cv
@mikael-xr6cv Жыл бұрын
Any ideas what I can do apart from wheels to reduce weight without losing kidneys please?
@theemperor-wh40k18
@theemperor-wh40k18 11 ай бұрын
Tyres are a good upgrade.
@nateisright
@nateisright 4 жыл бұрын
T47?! Who cares about 3 oz.?! This is the most well rounded road bike Trek offers! I’m excited! ! !
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I risked sounding like a fan boy in this video but it really is a bike worth being excited over. Especially with the nostalgic feels I get from it.
@rothgartheviking858
@rothgartheviking858 4 жыл бұрын
T47 is a huge selling point. I have BB30A on my current bike, Cannondale, I had to glue my bearings in. Stopped the Creaking for now.
@GustavoSoares06
@GustavoSoares06 3 жыл бұрын
nice vid. I've never owned a trek before but I personally find the new emonda gorgeous. the cabling seems a bit messy though... I thought it'd be tidier
@stinkyfungus
@stinkyfungus Жыл бұрын
He's not using the stock Aero headset spacers - those are egg shaped and have a cableway built into them that feeds the cables from the stem down into the opening in the frame above the headset bearing cover. Look for a pic of a stock bike with a stock uncut steer tube - most of the glory shots online have the cockpit slammed, so you don't see the stock aero spacers. Also, a bar with internal routing like my Enve SES will be far more tidy, since the cables exit under the bar and closer to the stem than the traditional "under the tape, and back towards the stem" of external routing Granted, its not as slick as a full on internal bar, into the stem hollow and down through the steer tube full internal route... But done right its pretty tidy.
@arthurreyes2632
@arthurreyes2632 4 жыл бұрын
Buy the sl frame and put Bontrager xxx saddle and bottle cage, slr seat mast cap, rsl bar/ stem, rsl 37 wheels, 1st gen etap disc group. That should make the bike within range of slr.
@TheCam1966
@TheCam1966 2 жыл бұрын
they lowkey did this lol
@carlosblancarte7622
@carlosblancarte7622 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, really enjoyed your analysis. Question is, when can we expect the follow up video with added components? :)
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
Probably December, I’m currently working full time and studying for my national Physiotherapy exam. I’m done the filming and have been riding the bike. I plan to give a more in-depth ride review at that time. Also have a video to do on a Revolt, Diverge, e-bike... so hopefully I can get them all done. Thanks for watching!
@carlosblancarte7622
@carlosblancarte7622 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thanks for the quick response! I purchased the SL6 after watching your review and I’ve loved it thus far. If you release the follow up video in December then I imagine I’ll have time to update my Christmas wishlist. Cheers!
@carlosblancarte7622
@carlosblancarte7622 3 жыл бұрын
And best of luck with your exams!
@watereddown1s
@watereddown1s 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant bike!
@Chimy1423
@Chimy1423 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Bigger frames between 54 to 58 always looks awesome. Smaller frame 52, 50 or 48 looks totally different. Too bad.
@coonie18
@coonie18 Жыл бұрын
I agree 😣 the smaller frames look almost deformed, the extreme sloping isn’t attractive at all.
@MrAurel40
@MrAurel40 3 жыл бұрын
i've bought an Emonda SL5 disc brakes in 2020. My first carbon bike and it perfectly fit for me. The only thing that disappointed me was the original wheels too heavy for me. Very difficult to drive when i'm tired or when i come back to my job (38 kms). I've changed the wheels for a new Fulcrum carbon wheels set and it definively change my bike. Lighter, easier , reactive.
@PHBlair84
@PHBlair84 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could try fitting an 11-32 cassette to see if it works ok with the short derailleur cage? Trek claim the max on the Emonda Pro is 11-30t cassette.
@winbrendan
@winbrendan 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing your next set of videos on this. Particularly your plans to make it lighter. I'm planning on picking up the SL6 Pro this week myself. I've seen it in person a few times, hoping to pull the trigger on the purchase this week if one of my local shops has my size. Question would you recommend I just upgrade to 28C tubeless at time of purchase?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded everything today, will take time to edit the video, but yes, 28s with tubeless is a must in my opinion. The wheels are well setup for it. The bike is fantastic.
@winbrendan
@winbrendan 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToddJones heavier with 28c tubeless? Referring back to your SL7 upgrade where weight went up.
@SteveBrill
@SteveBrill 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Your comment about the seat mast giving you a clicking sound is interesting to me. As I have a clicking when I pedal on my 2021 Domane and thought it was coming from the BB? Could it be from the seat mast, although the seat post clamp is different?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
It could also be coming from the saddle. If you give your seat and seat mast a forceful wiggle when you are off the bike and can recreate the noise, also, if when you are riding you move in the saddle, give it some hard bounces when not pedalling, if you can recreate the noise then it’s the seat mastcap or saddle. If it’s the saddle add a little chain lube to where the rails meet the seat. If it’s only when you are pedalling then it could be shoes, cleats, or BB. Unlikely to be the Bb on a T47 so again give it a strong wiggle with your hands to see if there is any play. If the seat mast cap is as low as it can go, then it’s likely clicking. Hope that helps.
@hl6306
@hl6306 4 жыл бұрын
madone slr 7/9 (upgraded to sram red and 454) here. Weight is okay as long as it stay under 8.2, I installed an aero bar and that got it to close to 9 kg at its maximum, that point on I feel its really heavy and hard to start against on and off wind gusts. FTP is around 3.7wkg for a ref, it must be my noodle legs.
@jkjackson91
@jkjackson91 4 жыл бұрын
Is this Fight Club?! "Nobody knows they saw it, but they did." That got you a new subscriber.....
@tyleromeo
@tyleromeo 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Looking forward to more analysis on your new bike. I’m coming from a 2008 trek 2.1 58cm and looking at the new Emonda. I wonder if I’ll be a 56 or 58. I’m 6’1.
@Hatazwnafightme
@Hatazwnafightme 3 жыл бұрын
58
@ton11two
@ton11two 3 жыл бұрын
Whats your inseam?
@ton11two
@ton11two 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’10” tall & 30 or 31 inseam. Not sure if the size 54 or 56cm(trek emonda sl6 2021) is the right size for me 😅
@av5165
@av5165 2 жыл бұрын
Pulled the trigger on a sl5. Just got my hunt 50 carbon wheels :)
@kurtd1935
@kurtd1935 4 жыл бұрын
First, nice review. The 2021 Emonda looks like an exciting bike. I am puzzled however. When the 2020 Domane (an endurance bike) added weight and got more aero, people thought it was terrible. But when a climbing bike adds weight (admittedly, much less weight than the Domane did) and gets more aero, then it's okay? And I would also point out that the Domane probably felt sluggish and heavier in part because it went to 32s and slower rolling tires. I mention this because I bought the 2020 Domane SL7etap, put on Conti 28 tires and despite being "heavy" it doesn't feel sluggish at all to me. As you mention, weight can be important but it's not the end all. In the end, the 2021 Emonda will be a better bike than the '20 version despite the weight increase.
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
Yah, initial impressions on the Domane focused a lot on weight. I think people were surprised at the amount it increased. But as you mention there are parts or components on any build that can make it more sluggish. The guy I’m riding with in my videos is my uncle, he’s 58, weighs 180lbs 81.5kgs, rides a Domane SLR with XXX wheels, and is a beast on the climbs. So there are a lot of variables. People are still hating on this new Emonda’s new weight though, it always gets he most attention. But as I mentioned Trek has been going away from focusing on weight and adding quality improvements which I think is a good move, I’m sure the next versions will focus back on weight a bit once they dial in these new models.
@martymiller4300
@martymiller4300 Жыл бұрын
If you move away from the corporate spin and just look at the bike as a product you’re going to buy and use for enjoyment the Emonda SL is a great choice. As usually happens when a product is “typed” by the manufacturer, the lines get blurred with time. If the Emonda is a dedicated climbing machine why did my SL7 come with a mid-compact crank and only 30 teeth on the big cog? Have I any intention of changing it? Nope, works just fine. TREK savvy onlookers often comment that it figures that I’d buy the climbing bike (of the 3) and I’ve stopped correcting them. Awesome universally enjoyable example of Carbon Fiber engineering without any artificial ride enhancements. Weight? Seems perfect to me.
@brettdalpozzo8363
@brettdalpozzo8363 3 жыл бұрын
Just on your comment about frame flex causing disc rub. I have a 2020 SL6, in my case it was actually the wheelset when I went stiff DT Swiss it cured it.
@ayowser01
@ayowser01 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment that the rubbing issue is likely the wheelset, not the frame. Also, the tracking of the bike straight has to do with the rake/trail figure, not its "aerodynamic" properties.
@TheKauaiboyz51
@TheKauaiboyz51 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the sl6, only difference being the rims, I fricken love the bike. Im a triathlete and also have a speed concept 2020 and I wanted something that I could use for hill climbing and a little less aggressive for rides. Im in love!
@jamesswinney7484
@jamesswinney7484 3 жыл бұрын
when you said don’t use treks size guide do you think it fits smaller bigger? how does it compare to other bikes and sizes?
@stefankucera2390
@stefankucera2390 4 жыл бұрын
Its in the end all about drivers skills and stamina to ride fast and playfull
@globalhaddadholdings9540
@globalhaddadholdings9540 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there - are you planning to do a revised video on the Trek Emonda SL6 Pro?
@sebastianvalencia198
@sebastianvalencia198 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think it would be possible to slam your bars with this frame size or would it make your reach longer?
@aneurinthomas1796
@aneurinthomas1796 4 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the H2 vs H1.5 frame? I have been riding an old Emonda SL 5 with an H2 frame and am considering getting the new Emonda. I appreciate that the geometry and fit are different but is the comfort equivalent? Is the new frame significantly more race-oriented or can it be fit close to the old bike? Thanks
@markn4526
@markn4526 3 жыл бұрын
H1.5 will be a bit longer and lower up front than H2, but can be accounted for with stem length and height.
@ItsMinarmy
@ItsMinarmy 4 жыл бұрын
Integrated seat post is a killer for me
@monsword
@monsword 3 ай бұрын
i always hear comments from my "recreational rider" friends like "the bike is heavy"..."ok, take off your shirt, look yourself in mirror, visually size your love handles" that's what i say. If anyone really really wants to get a lean bike, spend your after-tax money on wheelsets then, not the frame and components, the OLCV 500 w/ 105 is no different than a OLCV 800 w/Ultegra as long as you don't compete Tour De France
@geolocate
@geolocate 3 жыл бұрын
It's going to be this bike or the Giant Propel for me next spring. I'm honestly leaning towards the Propel.
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll pay less for the Giant but the benefits end there.
@ramilramos7571
@ramilramos7571 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@EnesMansur
@EnesMansur 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I find your videos very informative and helpful, so I'd like to thank you for your valuable knowledge shared. I live in London, England and have decided to buy Trek Emonda SL 6 Pro Grey 2021 model as my first road bike. What pedals and other accessories would you suggest me to buy? Kind regards, Devrim Bölük
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be putting out a video in the near future about what I’ve done to the bike and what I suggest, stay posted.
@MrSmartTechnology
@MrSmartTechnology 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video, given that you had troubles getting the seat height low enough would that equate the opposite way too? I have ridden 56cm bikes since I was 18, and I run a 80cm seat height from center of BB, if you look at the geo that would be impossible on a 56, do you know what the max out would be for the 56 with the long seat post?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
According to their charts the highest the 56cm can go is 765mm (76.5cm) from BB to the rails,so if your saddle has 3.5cm from the rails to the top of the seat you would just make it.
@nsiebenmor
@nsiebenmor 4 жыл бұрын
I test road it and thought it was a decent ride. I wasn’t really into the metallic paint on the top tube. The sun reflected into my face. The SL5 has much better paint options imo but is too heavy.
@PHBlair84
@PHBlair84 4 жыл бұрын
I had exactly the same issue and wondered whether they test rode it much or not... Managed to find one in the red livery and pulled the trigger!
@Primetime_dads
@Primetime_dads 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I just heard you say don’t use treks size guide, I just bought this bike from across the United States and have always used a 50 so I order a 50 agian. So are you saying it’s smaller then normal or bigger or what
@JFomo
@JFomo 3 жыл бұрын
Have your Strava times improved? This bike is heavier than my entry level Canyon Endurace.
@silverfox0072
@silverfox0072 4 жыл бұрын
Love the bike and love the video! Weight weenies will never be happy until they have the lightest bike and of course to do that they in turn lose weight in their wallets. Excited to see your next video on upgrades, weight saving or not. Great job! Also, what was that tripod you were using to hold up the bike? Pretty cool 😎
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
Joby camera tripod, found a use for it, lol.
@EXHICyclist
@EXHICyclist 3 жыл бұрын
nice video
@lesliekirk7036
@lesliekirk7036 4 жыл бұрын
What is the weight with pedals and a bottle cage show that on your video
@jasonmadsen502
@jasonmadsen502 3 жыл бұрын
What is your preference groupset between the SRAM Force and Ultegra Di2? I have 105 on my 2021 SL5 and looking to upgrade and any recommendations that you might have. Thanks in advance! Great videos
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Madsen that’s a very good question. I prefer the novelty of the wireless system that SRAM offers, but I prefer how smooth and dialled the Di2 is. I’m thinking we’ll see a major overhaul of Di2 in the next year or so, so that’s what I’m waiting for. You can’t go wrong with both sets tho. Less wires make the bike look much nicer, it’s the future for sure.
@globalhaddadholdings9540
@globalhaddadholdings9540 3 жыл бұрын
Between this and the TCR Advanced Pro 1, there is clearly a value gap (no power meter, heavier wheels, and a heavier body). That being said, the Trek SL6 Pro is just esthetically more pleasing and seems like it would be more fun to own long term. Is there anything else I’m missing here? Been riding a few months, so this would be my first carbon road bike.
@chrismartinez4933
@chrismartinez4933 2 жыл бұрын
Im between emonda sl 6 , domane sl 6 domane al 4 It’s my first road back and it’ll be my first iron man - what would you recommend ?
@olivermartinussen8153
@olivermartinussen8153 2 жыл бұрын
so whats your size guide? can you set the saddle higher than sugested? thanks
@HatRock
@HatRock Жыл бұрын
Hello! I see that an upgrade video was promised but I can't see that video in the channel. What happened? Great channel. Cheers!
@zodgzod
@zodgzod 3 жыл бұрын
The Domane has the same seat tube issue. I'm 6'2" with a 58cm 2020 Domane and I have to ride with the seat as low as it will go. I really should switch to the shorter one, but it's £200!
@molfar9049
@molfar9049 3 жыл бұрын
how about that weight loosing video, any time soon? bought the same phat bike need some tips!:)
@norcalchrismeister
@norcalchrismeister 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Since you said not to use Trek's sizing guide, would you say to go up or down a size? I'm 6'2.5" and was wondering what size would work for me.
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always tough to say, it depends on your limb length also. At your height I’d assume likely a 60cm. If you can handle a lot of drop then maybe 58, but that’s a strong maybe. If you can get your local bike shop I’d suggest getting fitted and jumping on one.
@norcalchrismeister
@norcalchrismeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToddJones Cool. I appreciate your help.👍
@ramonsanabria1472
@ramonsanabria1472 3 жыл бұрын
You're good !
@oliviaolivia7011
@oliviaolivia7011 2 жыл бұрын
I am considering between Madonna SL6 and Emonda SL6 , any advices ?
@coco10060
@coco10060 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean, "Do not use Treks sizing guide because I don't think it does applies"? Can you clarify please?
@richardbriffod5251
@richardbriffod5251 Жыл бұрын
Hi Land of Bikes, great video! Quick question on the sizing topic of the Sl6 which I found indeed a challenge. Would you be willing to share your own height for riding the 56?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones Жыл бұрын
5’11”, 181cm. But short arms.
@ap.5081
@ap.5081 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at this bike and the Specialized Aethos Expert - Are there any similarities or totally different bikes?
@MA-ek1xl
@MA-ek1xl 3 жыл бұрын
They’re definitely extremely different just based on weight and frame construction/design concept.
@RaYdMyth
@RaYdMyth 4 жыл бұрын
Gettin the etap sl7 today. Upgraded the wheels to rsl, the saddle to the pro model and handlebar to the one piece. Should weigh about 16.75lbs in size 52
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing, please share when it’s done.
@RaYdMyth
@RaYdMyth 4 жыл бұрын
Land of Bikes can confirm she’s not too heavy. Tried stock parts before making the upgrades. Was 2.3 mph faster than the previous rig I was using on undulating roads that max out at 10% grade. Old rig was a Look 585 Campy super record (14.5 lbs, retailed for 1.8x the price of the sl7). The aerodynamic gains on this bike are incredible. A true undervalued super bike
@TheTmatsushita
@TheTmatsushita 4 жыл бұрын
RaYd what is your height and inseam as you bought a 52 size? Thx
@RaYdMyth
@RaYdMyth 4 жыл бұрын
TMatsushita height is 67.25in and inseam about 28in. I was between a 52 and 54 and sized down and paired with the more aggressive (400 x 110) one piece Aeolus bar stem combo
@RaYdMyth
@RaYdMyth 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRichToepperTeam it wasn’t available unfortunately.
@deanos1993
@deanos1993 4 жыл бұрын
What are the best upgrades to improve the bike? I have one on order. I'm assume an aero bar/stem and maybe upgrade the wheels?
@versacemoose2951
@versacemoose2951 3 жыл бұрын
Wheels for sure. You'll notice it instantly when accelerating. Less rotational weight.
@deanos1993
@deanos1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@versacemoose2951 Thanks! Shop confirmed I could trade up to the Aeolus Pro 37's today!
@philweezer4763
@philweezer4763 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, don’t know if you remember me from my question on the 2019 v. current Domane. I still haven’t made a decision but I wanted to ask, since you rode both the new Domane and this Emonda, did it change your mind on the T47 since you spoke highly on your experience with the BB90? Also would you recommend the Emonda over the other 2 Domane’s?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve personally never had issues with BB90 on my Trek bikes. I had issues with press fit on a couple Cannondale’s I owned, flash 29er and superx. So I have no issues with BB90. T47 is easier to work on since you don’t need the tool to knock the pressfit out but both are fine for most people.
@philweezer4763
@philweezer4763 4 жыл бұрын
Fair to say that you like this Emonda more than those 2 Domane’s that we discussed?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
For the type of riding I do, yes. But I haven’t ridden a Domane enough. It really depends on the type of riding you’d be doing. Thanks for watching by the way, appreciate the follow ups on my videos. 👍
@mouradsalem972
@mouradsalem972 Жыл бұрын
Nice review thank you, please I need help, I bay the 56 émonda sl5 2019 rimes brake ,I feel like you said, I feel non comfortable then my old bike, I mesure 178cm , is it bigger?
@rsanjuan31
@rsanjuan31 3 жыл бұрын
@Land of Bikes how would you compare the Di2 versus eTap? Any preference or more enjoyable experience?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, they both are nice. I like the wireless setup of the etap and the power meter is my go to considering you can install it easily. I did have an issue where the drivetrain dropped my chain and scratched the frame on my previous Emonda. It needs to be setup perfect and you need to be careful with frame flexion. The Di2 is so proven and buttery. If Di2 had wireless and power meter integration like the etap it would be the outright winner. If I had to choose I’d go etap though as it stands.
@donraahul
@donraahul 4 жыл бұрын
What does the wheel hub racket sound like..
@michaelpegasiou4531
@michaelpegasiou4531 4 жыл бұрын
Look at your lovely smooth roads,that bike would rattle to pieces around here,would need 28mm tyres minimum,32mm but wouldn’t fit,hello from Cambridge uk.
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
Yah the roads in our city rattle the bike pretty hard, will be putting 28s on. That smooth toad is an hour away in a National park. Thanks for watching!
@ayowser01
@ayowser01 3 жыл бұрын
How much better do the rsl37 wheels ride over the elite 35? I noticed that sneaky wheel spin at the end 😉
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say significantly, I’ll have a full review in my next video but the bike roles way faster, could be a combo of things but I’m thinking the wheels are the major reason why the bike roles faster. I had constant variable to test the before and after against and noticed a big difference, I’ll explain more in my next vid.
@adamkubiak1933
@adamkubiak1933 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. What sizing guide would you use? What’s your advice on that?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to size the bike is to get on one at your local shop or get a fitting done on a fit bike so they can simulate the sizing. It’s difficult to have a guide because every persons proportions are different. If you have long legs, short torso and short arms this bike will be tough to size, long torso long arms and short legs and you’ll likely ride a bigger frame. It just doesn’t fit into the same mold as their Emonda or Domane. Just beware when purchasing.
@jayjohnson1440
@jayjohnson1440 3 жыл бұрын
Do you utilize a cadence sensor, if so, where do you put it? I find the crank super close to the frame.
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
I went with a power meter fro 4iii. Cadence built in.
@beeess7987
@beeess7987 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Trek Emonda SL5? I'm currently riding an old Giant TCR from like 2011 with 10 speed and slightly wrong sizing for me and looking to uprade, is it worth the investment to save more and get the SL6?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, the difference between the two is the 105 vs Ultegra. 105 is great and honestly not a huge difference. Both bikes come with a pretty weak wheel set, so if you upgrade the wheels you’ll get a pretty similar bike that you won’t be able to tell the difference between.
@d_realpacifist1621
@d_realpacifist1621 Жыл бұрын
hi, nice review. I am 6.4 or 193 cm, and according to Trek I suppose to buy 62 cm frame size, but I've seen it, and it seems too big, and too long top tube. Not sure what to choose.
@adamlucienroy
@adamlucienroy 2 жыл бұрын
I was pretty bummd after watching the two 21 Emonda vid's that the channel immediately died. Good work otherwise, and it was cool seeing some 'Berta bike reviews.
@stewarthill8103
@stewarthill8103 4 жыл бұрын
Beneficial review! Thx!!! I’m actually looking to purchase this bike really soon and my local Trek store has a 56 in stock, now I’m 5 11 which calls for a 58, do you think the 56 would be sufficient for btw if I order the 58 it won’t be in till January thx for ur help
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’11” and I ride a 56, I can’t imagine riding a 58. Definitely go try that bike out. It depends on your limb length but I’d bet you are a 56.
@vincentmeersschaert5172
@vincentmeersschaert5172 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToddJones I'm also 5'11" (1.81m) and have a limb length of 2'11". Long limb length. So I guess I need a a 58.
@MA-ek1xl
@MA-ek1xl 3 жыл бұрын
Given your thoughts on weight being somewhat overrated due to improvements in other aspects of the bike, what are your thoughts on the specialist Aethos?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
A bit confused, I remember when Trek launched the new, at the time, Emonda which had a frame weight similar. Feels like a bit of a backwards progression, I think their new Tarmac is far superior. There are many rabbit holes to dive down showing how much weight you would need to drop to make up for aero. Interesting how this new Aethos talks about ride quality but nothing about speed. I never dug too deep but I’m guessing they built it to be a “riders” bike based on feel and not really about speed. Which is great because I’d take that or the Domane over a Tarmac or my Emonda any day on a long ride.
@greenophotography
@greenophotography 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the saddle left me rubbed and sore in the same spot on my '20 Madone SLR. Also wanted to like it, but it found the bottom of a drawer after a couple weeks. As to bike weight... People who dwell on bike weight should probably shed a little themselves. Just sayin'.
@MaxRothFitness
@MaxRothFitness 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.. everyone can lose probably 10-20’pounds instead of 1 pound on a bike
@petercollingwood4108
@petercollingwood4108 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, to be honest what good are your little toes, get rid 😳🇬🇧
@srddrs9285
@srddrs9285 Жыл бұрын
Losing any kind of weight off me is 100% definitely not safely doable. I have found the Emonda SLR series PLENTY light exactly as is. 55Kg of combined cyclist + bike weight leaves no room for excuses and certainly no room for reasonably losing weight from myself.
@alexm1841
@alexm1841 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to decide between an Emonda and a Domane SL6. Lots of hills in my area but I also enjoy riding about 3-4 hours
@JeremyLevyMusic
@JeremyLevyMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Get the Emonda. It's still plenty comfy on longer rides. I have the SL5, love it.
@mk-yg7op
@mk-yg7op 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you chose mechanical ultegra? Your previous emonda had electronic sram shifting. Thanks!
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
A few reasons, price and what was available at the time. But I used to ride Ultegra mechanical exclusively and loved tuning it and being hands on in terms of mechanics. I personally like to get my tools out to adjust the drive train to shift perfectly, so I do still enjoy it. Also bang for the buck it’s the best system out there, it’s so smooth.
@ComadoreSniffle
@ComadoreSniffle 3 жыл бұрын
honestly i ride a 1990 joe gardin chromo frame lol, with 90s 105, its like 30 lbs soooo I cant wait to upgrade to a 17 lb bike that will feel like a feather to me lol
@kevinjhan4268
@kevinjhan4268 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, my height is 176cm/inseam is 84cm, Trek website suggest using size 56. I hope for a comfortable ride. Is there a better suggestion?thx!
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
That’s likely correct. Unless you have short arms and/or torso. Then I’d get to your shop if possible.
@rkgr2
@rkgr2 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Emonda and really like it. However, it seems Trek is focusing on aesthetics and marketing. For 2021, the prices went up and the components and specs stayed the same. Also, the weight increased while they brag about light weight.
@KhairulkharExplorer
@KhairulkharExplorer 3 жыл бұрын
I wish this 2021 emonda comes to Malaysia market ASAP
@g4rymw110
@g4rymw110 3 жыл бұрын
Would you suggest sizing down when you mentioned ignore Trek’s sizing guide as I’m 5ft 8 which suggests 54 frame but my inseam is 30” and they suggest a 52 for that, not much play in the seat stem I’m guessing so you have to get it right
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
It depends a bit on how aggressive you want to be, I think you’d still fit a 54 with the shorter seat mast cap, double check that, if you can’t then you definitely need to size down. Also worth considering is how much drop you want, if you size down you’ll have more drop, and considering this bike has a h1.5 head tube there is already a decent drop.
@g4rymw110
@g4rymw110 3 жыл бұрын
Land of Bikes Ok thanks for reply , 👍🏼
@frankmoran167
@frankmoran167 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Just bought this and have done approx 200kms so far. On longer climb could hold a good pace and on flat definitely faster than my old bike and feeling the aero benefit. Still getting used to the saddle, feels different at start of ride but settle in after a few kms and no soreness afterwards (which I am prone to). Feels very nimble cornering and of course disc brakes build confidence. Worried that the 11-30 cassette may not be low enough for Gran Fondos so then need to change out the derailleur which is annoying for a climbing bike, all other brands come with 11-32... Agree the wheels aren't the lightest but since no weight limit, suitable for touring and also very stiff. I'm 160cm and the 47 fits like a glove out of the box.
@mantelles
@mantelles 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, EXCELLENT well balanced, intelligent review. Now how about a review of that awesome espresso machine???
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 4 жыл бұрын
My review would be something like, drink more QUALITY coffee, it’s good. Also it was likely the best purchase of my life. The end.
@Vlad-fj8fz
@Vlad-fj8fz 3 жыл бұрын
I need some help deciding between the 2020 and 2021. My loca shop has the exact gloss blue 2020 left over with force axs for a discounted price. And they have the new sl6 pro for about same price just a little bit more. Do I go for the better frame or better wheels and components?
@ToddJones
@ToddJones 3 жыл бұрын
100% better wheels and components. Once I get around to putting out my upgrade video you’ll see that this bike doesn’t come alive until it has better wheels and components on it.
@Vlad-fj8fz
@Vlad-fj8fz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToddJones thank you thank you thank you! I thought so as well at first and I saw that you have the exact same blue one that I’m trying to get but also sounds like this new generation Edmonds frame is amazing as well and I started to doubt if I’d be happy with the older version. But I think out of the box with price being about the same I get more out of the 2020 sl7 disk etap. Appreciate you replying and definitely makes me feel better about my decision getting the 2020. I’m going to buy it tomorrow!
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