The New 2022 Subaru WRX Got Ugly And Its All-New Engine Makes The Same Power? - Two Takes

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The 2022 Subaru WRX does a lot of things right: its the only AWD car in its class, and remains well composed on damp roads. It has a lot of space inside, an upgraded multimedia system and goes fast for the money. But even with an extra 400cc of displacement, it makes the same power and torque as before. We think we know why. How do the brakes, shifter, and suspension feel? Do the things the WRX does well outweigh the ones it doesn't? Matt and Zack find out.
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The New 2022 Subaru WRX Got Ugly And Its All-New Engine Makes The Same Power - Two Takes
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@TheSmokingTire
@TheSmokingTire 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the new WRX's engine?
@joeblacc8573
@joeblacc8573 2 жыл бұрын
In an age/era dominated by numbers and figures, they definitely sold themselves short from a marketing standpoint. Sure "tuners" might under stand the benefit but the general public...notsomuch
@stevemartegani
@stevemartegani 2 жыл бұрын
Need to drive it first. The 6000 redline is disappointing, but more low end and power across the curve is good. Seems like more of a truck motor though (it did come from the Ascent)
@axeya366
@axeya366 2 жыл бұрын
I think its trash. after 20yrs and not even close to an AMG 45s
@jfnurod
@jfnurod 2 жыл бұрын
The turbo has an electronic wastegate which I'm interested to see how it helps boost response. No t thrilled with the plastic bypass valve or the plastic intake manifold. My complaint is the 6k redline! It's a sports sedan not a diesel jetta.
@The_Stanman
@The_Stanman 2 жыл бұрын
It's seems decently effective, but is incredibly boring. It's meant for Outback and Ascents.and it shows. Make a "Just the Noise" video to troll Subaru 😅
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru: "You know what looks cool? Dark boxy fender cladding!" Pontiac: "Hmmm, that's what we thought..."
@henlolneh
@henlolneh 2 жыл бұрын
Breaking Bad reboot about to have a new meme vehicle ?
@YeahItsYourBoyG
@YeahItsYourBoyG 2 жыл бұрын
@@henlolneh hahaha Mr. White boutta send it in a '22 WRX. not a bad idea actually.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@unlisted9494
@unlisted9494 2 жыл бұрын
Nahh, Pontiac got fucked. They would design pretty decent vehicles, then the accountants at GM would ruin them. Remember the fiero V6 gt? It was actually pretty sick. That is what the fiero was supposed to be FROM THE BEGINNING. The 5th gen camaro was supposed to have a twin turbo 4.2L i6. It got neutered and stuck in the trailblazer.
@stinkothestooleater4490
@stinkothestooleater4490 Жыл бұрын
Looks don't matter when you don't have to worry about paint chips every time you drive on dirt roads
@Slickpete83
@Slickpete83 2 жыл бұрын
*all HVAC controls should have physical buttons , including heated/cooled seats and heated steering wheel* no matter what !!!
@The_Stanman
@The_Stanman 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@daves984
@daves984 2 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous you can adjust dials and buttons by feel without ever having to take your eyes off the road. It's definitely more dangerous
@paulwade5853
@paulwade5853 2 жыл бұрын
Heated/cooled seats just shouldn't exist in what's labeled as a performance car.
@f1jones544
@f1jones544 2 жыл бұрын
All controls should use buttons and dials. There's no practical exception.
@The_Stanman
@The_Stanman 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwade5853 A WRX is a daily driver with some performance chops, not some dedicated track day toy. They'd lose a lot of buyers if it didn't have at least heated seats on higher trims.
@kevinryan2992
@kevinryan2992 2 жыл бұрын
The wheel cladding I can take or leave, the rear bumper/diffuser is what I can't get past.
@SomethingSeemsOff
@SomethingSeemsOff 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus it's atrocious.
@scotchbonnetfk8
@scotchbonnetfk8 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like when you do most of your homework but get lazy and hit up your friend (brz) for the last few answers.
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
@Taichou Levi 3 hp more may not seem like much, but it’s on 4 lbs less boost. This engine will vastly outperform the ej257 in your STi mod for mod, the fa20 in the previous generation WRX does as well…
@mojojoji5493
@mojojoji5493 2 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is just messed up though lol
@YasumotoUS
@YasumotoUS 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Likely so, but that's also thousands of additional dollars and a voided warranty. May not matter in the argument of which platform is better for modifications, but it sure matters for those of us who don't have the time to wrench.
@stevemartegani
@stevemartegani 2 жыл бұрын
All Subaru had to do was bring a sedan version of the Japanese Levorg over... But nooo they had to stick ugly black plastic on the car because "rugged" :/
@brucelee5465
@brucelee5465 2 жыл бұрын
Japan only has Cvt wrx no manual
@stevemartegani
@stevemartegani 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucelee5465 Not exactly difficult for Subaru to put the US WRX drivetrain/manual trans into the wagon body. All the parts exist, nothing requires re-engineering.
@Wpjgdmtu
@Wpjgdmtu 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it until today. That's a seriously cool car. Bummer we don't get it imported here with a manual.
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevemartegani americans dont buy wagons
@adamleininger1387
@adamleininger1387 2 жыл бұрын
The touchscreen is not an improvement. It sucks in the Outback, and it sucks in this.
@colinsdad1
@colinsdad1 2 жыл бұрын
I owned an 07 Subaru and miss how dead ass simple that interior was. Why Subaru thought sticking a TV on the dash was a good idea I'll never know.
@djsone3499
@djsone3499 2 жыл бұрын
The oversized vertical touchscreen with integrated HVAC is the main reason I won't buy this car. I refuse to buy anything without physical HVAC controls.
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinsdad1 Because it's what most people expect now-a-days and unfortunately what they want. No idea how, I find it difficult as hell to hit buttons on screen while bouncing down the road, but apparently I'm in the minority.
@brucelee5465
@brucelee5465 2 жыл бұрын
@@djsone3499 they have a base model which has physical hvac buttons.
@colinsdad1
@colinsdad1 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSlowestD16 Maybe it's my age (49) but, all I want are two things in a car- a manual transmission and FOR THE CAR TO STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY DRIVING!! I don't need it talking to me, "grabbing" the wheel because it thinks I'm out of my lane, or flashing and blasting sounds at me while I'm just driving down the road. I'm in the process of building my Own K Code Mustang with a 1995 Steeda- it has a 306 in it with a... *gasp*.... carburetor!! That way, I can actually tune/work on the fucking thing!
@KennyJacobs
@KennyJacobs 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who complains about the cladding is not the target audience for the WRX. It's a rally car. It's meant to be driven off-road with dirt and rocks. Anyone that has done any off-road driving appreciates having that cladding to protect the paint/body. It's much easier to replace scratched/damaged cladding than body work and paint job. I love the look of this WRX. Looking forward to putting in an order for one.
@ianholmquist8492
@ianholmquist8492 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. I love my sti and loved my wrx before that. And I long to just let it really rip on gravel but I always hold back because I don't want to tear all the paint off the fenders, which would take about 12 minutes of beautiful, gravel-slinging joy. Yes the cladding on the 22 looks crappy but I have always liked subaru more for their function than their form anyway.
@jasonmoyer
@jasonmoyer Жыл бұрын
We're starting to flirt with snow (PA) and it's nice having the majority of the slush and salt slapping against that plastic instead of trying to tear the metal apart.
@MrAlf24
@MrAlf24 Жыл бұрын
If you’re using this as a rally car you aren’t going to care either way. The cladding or the paint…you aren’t going to care. The main audience for this vehicle are people who will be daily driving this on the street. That cladding is ugly af and needs to be binned.
@jasonmoyer
@jasonmoyer Жыл бұрын
IRL I've had multiple people say they like the cladding (including every WRX owner who has come over to look at it) and one person who gave the internet review word-for-word (not enough power, it's ugly) while his buddy said "yeah, that's because you can't buy one". My reaction, as an owner, is basically "if I cared what it looked like I wouldn't have bought a WRX". I bought it because I wanted to replace my AWD daily, and I wanted whatever I bought to be quick and fun, which the new one is. What I didn't expect was how much traction the new chassis has. It's the perfect car for where I live in Pennsylvania, driving mostly 25/35 mph backroads with lots of hills and switchbacks, usually in some sort of precipitation.
@a_unit_NG
@a_unit_NG Жыл бұрын
Yea. Cuz 90% of the people buy who this car take it off road SMH. It's ugly as shit
@NZmellowyellow
@NZmellowyellow 11 ай бұрын
None of these older reviews are aging very well. Lots have come round to the looks and the cvt isn’t a bad drive either.
@Cats_Are_Scary
@Cats_Are_Scary 6 ай бұрын
I was just thinking this and wanted to see if anyone agreed with me in the comments.
@leospaceman2976
@leospaceman2976 11 күн бұрын
I didn’t mind the looks at first but now it looks pretty bland. Almost like a rental car.
@murmsuniversalrobotics3938
@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 5 күн бұрын
I like the way the car looks, and the car has performance potential for days. Leagues beyond previous versions.
@Mrsonicslash5
@Mrsonicslash5 2 жыл бұрын
Not even 4 minutes and Matt wanted out lol
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 2 жыл бұрын
Matt did a commendable job of not puking about the entire car. It is such a disappointment. Outgoing car is a cult tuner car. That's what makes this so hard to accept. Subaru ruined it. Hard to believe such a fail could occur and only plausible explanation is there was a sea change in the staff at Subaru. Subaru did improve the engine and the rev hang in this car. The rest is unacceptable.
@ZONE3965
@ZONE3965 2 жыл бұрын
Can't blame the man 🤷‍♂️
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukewalker1051 sounds like you didn’t watch the review but ok lol
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 2 жыл бұрын
Wdym?
@cs2294
@cs2294 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Subaru's angle with this car is actually marketing it as more of an outback sedan given the CVT trans and the cladding. Maybe they're trying to grab more buyers who don't know what a WRX is. That's my only guess
@SuchFinessse
@SuchFinessse 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure, they’ve had a CVT in this thing since the last generation. The cladding almost looks like they’re pushing more of an off-road look lol
@v8_sami
@v8_sami 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuchFinessse most likely trying to get the SUV/CUV drivers to buy the car. Seats that is higher cladding that makes the car look higher.
@joshuafallet5690
@joshuafallet5690 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuchFinessse isnt the cvt different in the gt trim though?
@ABoringTool
@ABoringTool 2 жыл бұрын
Possible that enthusiasts go for STI and the average WRX buyer is just someone who vapes in new england and won't mind the cladding
@notmybadd
@notmybadd 2 жыл бұрын
@@ABoringTool LOL!!
@GeraldineLancaster
@GeraldineLancaster 2 жыл бұрын
Man, these cars used to be iconic.
@user-ih7gc7dt9l
@user-ih7gc7dt9l 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this new video format and you guys are excellent together so cheers for that.
@stevethomas760
@stevethomas760 2 жыл бұрын
There has been a WRX in my driveway since '02. Wanted this new model to be the car I buy in '22, no way. Over the top plastic is just to much for this guy.
@ericpetschl8347
@ericpetschl8347 2 жыл бұрын
The car looks awful
@wrxrcr1
@wrxrcr1 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I have owned 2 wrxs and saved up to get this one, subaru just lost a sale.
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
Plastics will help with longevity in the salt belt, no stone chips in the paint means no rust… I don’t mind the cladding, the rear end is a bit excessive though
@ericpetschl8347
@ericpetschl8347 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeper.simulant7327 in my opinion the front it rough too. It seems a bit like a crossover and not a sporty sedan
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericpetschl8347 the fronts not that bad, looks modern and is fairly clean. Not perfect by any means but looks are subjective
@BCNeil
@BCNeil 2 жыл бұрын
I finally got to drive one. Its faster than I thought it would be. I'd say pretty close to my '15sti. They say 12psi, old was 16psi. Getting this new one 16psi of boost and a tune, its faster that the old sti easy. That cladding doesn't look too bad on the black in person.
@illyack5593
@illyack5593 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 2020 sti, got the 2022 , its a lot faster actually than my sti and just so buttery smooth . The suspension is awesome, rides so nice. There is no way all the haters have driven one. I freaking love it.
@squirrelzar
@squirrelzar 2 жыл бұрын
@@illyack5593 this was my reaction after test driving it as well
@cbidwell91
@cbidwell91 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for hitting on the fact the best trim level for enthusiasts is CVT only. HUGE miss by Subaru.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%! 👍
@jamesgarvey8402
@jamesgarvey8402 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so dumb!!
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 2 жыл бұрын
Depends how the cvt is tbh
@cbidwell91
@cbidwell91 2 жыл бұрын
@@fifteen8850 I don't mind that its offered with a CVT, my issue is the GT trim is CVT only. Thats a huge miss to offer a 6MT on every trim level, excluding the best performing one.
@jamesgarvey8402
@jamesgarvey8402 2 жыл бұрын
@@fifteen8850 show me 1 cvt that’s engaging.
@pilotscott1204
@pilotscott1204 Жыл бұрын
No one in New England, the northern border states, or Canada will complain about the cladding. In Northern NY, we're already at 42" of an expected 200" of snow this year - the cladding saves the paint from the salt and sand blasting.
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing SavageGeese's review I have definitely changed my opinion on this car.
@ShaanNotShawn
@ShaanNotShawn 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a proud 2017 WRX owner, which was alot of fun, and looked awesome, but I don't think I will be going back to Subaru anytime soon. It feels so cheap/economy for what you pay vs a GTI.
@gregmcable
@gregmcable 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, wait to you sit in the 22 GTI's. viva la plastique.
@ShaanNotShawn
@ShaanNotShawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregmcable Dang thats disapointing, I also owned a 2017 gti and was blown away compared to the wrx interior. That said now with the Audi RS3 I am too spoiled.
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
Has to do with fit and finish, Subarus have always felt on the cheap side compared to the competition. That being said, it’s not enough for me to say no due to the AWD, where I live snow 6+ months of the year isn’t uncommon, AWD really helps
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaanNotShawn RS3 is where it’s at, all you need is basic tune and bolt ons and you can humiliate a lot of cars, while still being comfortable
@ShaanNotShawn
@ShaanNotShawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeper.simulant7327 oh yeah the wrx is a great car. And what I did like more about it vs the GTI was it had more of a attitude especially with an upgraded exhaust so it was more exciting to drive, and absolutely kills it in the snow. The rs3 is definitely at least twice the price but it has what I liked about both cars and of course more power and 5 cylinder turbo noises.
@craigpurnell4897
@craigpurnell4897 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the hatchback.
@spacepxl
@spacepxl 2 жыл бұрын
The hood vibration is an issue for the BRZ/86 as well, but in those you can fix it by adjusting the rubber stoppers so it closes tighter. Maybe the same here?
@anticalgary
@anticalgary 2 жыл бұрын
hood vibration on my Outback Wilderness too
@bryanallendorf7064
@bryanallendorf7064 Жыл бұрын
They have all those fixes you talked about in the aftermarket now. I have the STI shifter in mine. The Dulops suck for daily use. Rough and noisy. Conti. DSW+ 255's excellent ride with new rims. Replacing struts with coilovers with adjustable dampening. The seat goes down more in non power seats. Cat back with dealeats sounds awesome with pop's. Intake sounds great now with blow off noise. Painted back bumper. Tons of aftermarket parts out already from ETS,Berger tune etc.
@Owenth42
@Owenth42 2 жыл бұрын
The more new cars come out the older i feel, none of the new stuff appeals to me
@dericanslum1696
@dericanslum1696 2 жыл бұрын
...keep waking up grasshopper...keep waking up...
@Vurlo
@Vurlo 2 жыл бұрын
I was working on the previous generation wrx last week and I just thought it was dull and boring, but this is a whole new level! Old gen looks good now
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
what exactly are u looking for?
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 2 жыл бұрын
They’re trying to make it an SUV. I guarantee you the next generation will be one.
@Vurlo
@Vurlo 2 жыл бұрын
@@papa_pt something that doesn't look hideous from pretty much every angle
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vurlo I wouldn't pair hideous and dull/boring together which u going with?
@Vurlo
@Vurlo 2 жыл бұрын
What is your point, move along
@Puma6922
@Puma6922 2 жыл бұрын
it sounds like they haven't changed that much. my old 03 did the bouncy thing on the highway too, apparently its due to the rally design of having the front of the car pitch up under acceleration so it can go over gravel/snow/etc. the brake thing is also reminiscent of my 03. the subaru firewall flexes causing the brake feel to be inconsistent even though the power is there. a brace against the strut tower, firewall and brake fluid reservoir fixes that
@Yesidoplaytheguitar
@Yesidoplaytheguitar 2 жыл бұрын
I'd get the Mazda 3 Turbo as an awd daily driver and deal with the automatic transmission. Better interior, less ugly, more comfortable.
@FACTOTUM_55
@FACTOTUM_55 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller interior, not as focused on sportiness. But a better daily driver indeed, yes on all other points you raised.
@itgoes3284
@itgoes3284 2 жыл бұрын
Internal combustion is going to die in our lifetime and ur trying to convince people to buy autos? 😵‍💫🤧🤧🤧
@SomethingSeemsOff
@SomethingSeemsOff 2 жыл бұрын
@@itgoes3284 Why not? I have to drive in stop and go rush hour traffic everyday weekday for work, but I also want to have a touch of power when I need/want it.
@itgoes3284
@itgoes3284 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomethingSeemsOff in 10 or so years there will be no new manuals so its a "enjoy it while you can" kinda deals
@RCXDerp
@RCXDerp 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomethingSeemsOff You make it sound like the clutch pedal in a wrx is like a dodge viper
@Flex_WRX
@Flex_WRX 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review thanks guys
@wantapgt
@wantapgt 2 жыл бұрын
Does not do 0-60 in the 4’s. It’s low to mid 5’s
@str8cash113
@str8cash113 2 жыл бұрын
That's in a manual trans.. good luck getting those times constantly.
@zmuse
@zmuse 2 жыл бұрын
The Ascent had a TSB because the hood layers are not adhered together. So they literally inject a glue into the hood to fix it. It fixed it about 70% of the time but it still wobbles/shakes on the highway for us. I hope thats not the case for the WRX
@aaronleang
@aaronleang 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the drivers are so polite to just signal you that something might be up ahead.
@motorcyclesandguitars1892
@motorcyclesandguitars1892 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting on the cabin/road noise. I hoped that would be fixed for the new model, but apparently it’s not. It’s a deal breaker for me :-/
@po.russki
@po.russki 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the tires.
@stevemcrichards8768
@stevemcrichards8768 2 жыл бұрын
@@po.russki Dunlop did develop those tires for that car but, Dunlop made some clear performance vs compliance compromises with the GT600A. I'm almost certain if you put a Goodyear, Yokohama o Michelin on there the ride quality would improve.
@civiccrewrojosi
@civiccrewrojosi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank-you Subaru for continuing to #SaveTheManuals!!!!!
@justinx8935
@justinx8935 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people talking shit about it can't even afford it. Car is great and better than most in the price range. 280hp monster
@kirkwagner461
@kirkwagner461 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thanks.
@Rex_Racer
@Rex_Racer 2 жыл бұрын
Like a Pontiac Aztec mated with a WRX and this popped out.
@LOckednLOsT
@LOckednLOsT Жыл бұрын
I just got mine. The suspension is great compared to other cars I’ve owned, (2001 Outback, 2020 Honda Civic). It feels like it takes every bump well. I haven’t noticed the hood shaking at all.
@LOckednLOsT
@LOckednLOsT Жыл бұрын
Also I got a CVT and it’s great. It feels like I’m driving a luxury sports Sudan and it’s the base model!
@ThomasHarrisonLord
@ThomasHarrisonLord 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great song at 2:13, car review is superb too!
@voss456
@voss456 2 жыл бұрын
The plastic fenders aren’t that bad to me. It’s the rear bumper and the fact that the wheels are too small and the ride height is too high. The new engine is good though. It can take more power with less stress on it due to running lower boost.
@ZakWilson
@ZakWilson 2 жыл бұрын
It sure would be nice if they had a wagon/hatchback. I know the US market usually hates those, but they accounted for half of the WRX sales when they existed.
@laynesuhr
@laynesuhr 2 жыл бұрын
They do have a (CVT Only) Wagon alongside it, atleast in the Australian Market, it also doesnt have the cladding which is very odd.
@ZakWilson
@ZakWilson 2 жыл бұрын
@@laynesuhr Between that and the GT model, they really seem to be pushing that CVT.
@JFinns
@JFinns 2 жыл бұрын
WRX hatchback would be an easy buy, miss that car. The new WRX got too big for a sporty sedan.
@doodooswirl
@doodooswirl 2 жыл бұрын
The hatchback version of this would be the Crosstrek.
@ZakWilson
@ZakWilson 2 жыл бұрын
@@doodooswirl i have driven a Crosstrek. It's no WRX. I imagine a determined modder could make it into one.
@SWARKA1
@SWARKA1 2 жыл бұрын
8:53 I already remember in 1993 that the Subaru's brake pedal was very soft. Guess what? The same feeling remained with the LEGACY 2020 I have today. Strange isn't it? Beautiful and professional review and mostly fair.
@googleleavemynamealone9145
@googleleavemynamealone9145 2 жыл бұрын
I have a soft pedal in my XT too! I dont mind it as I have the Brembo's now and the soft pedal gives me a LOT of modulation, but still with big braking if I dig in
@stevemcrichards8768
@stevemcrichards8768 2 жыл бұрын
I think they've been using the same master cylinder since forever.
@wafflesnfalafel1
@wafflesnfalafel1 2 жыл бұрын
that is an interesting point - my wife's '16 Crosstrek is the same way, spongey brake pedal with limited feed back. My '18 WRX is not like that, but sounds like maybe the new '22 is... apparently yet another issue not to like about the new '22.
@scottthecarguy8147
@scottthecarguy8147 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the teaser trailer at the beginning! Good idea guys.
@Emb4Prez
@Emb4Prez 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I clicked the wrong video
@noiiaz96
@noiiaz96 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment about the brake feeling "uncertain" and "having to press it a lot more than you'd think" describes exactly how the brakes on my 13 WRX feels, no matter if they were super worn, or after just replacing them. They suck lol.
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
My 2011 Outback 3.6r is the same. Brand new brakes, not the most confidence inspiring. Granted I don’t race it, just feels weird. My Mazda Speed6 has insanely good brakes in comparison
@deviousmudd
@deviousmudd 2 жыл бұрын
It's due to the firewall flexing. You need a master cylinder brace. Several companies make them for about $100 and takes about 30 minutes to install.
@TheMacroGravity
@TheMacroGravity 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 wrx (after the rev hang semi-fix) and love it. The 2022 just doesn't do it for me with the body cladding, lower Rev limit, and shifter feel. If I ever trade mine in, it feels like the GR corolla will be more in the spirit of what I'm looking for, but I'll have to wait and see.
@andreashabeck1155
@andreashabeck1155 2 жыл бұрын
Why not a GR Yaris?
@nootology
@nootology 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreashabeck1155 not sold in the US
@TheMacroGravity
@TheMacroGravity 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirskorge I mean, the only market I know of where both are sold is Japan, and both are around 4 million yen (for an rz yaris and a base wrx s4)
@TheFranpito
@TheFranpito 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMacroGravity i live in argentina and we have both cars too, most of european countries, australia and NZ have them too
@TheMacroGravity
@TheMacroGravity 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFranpito it seems mexico has both, and the price for a mid spec wrx is the same as a base spec gr yaris. It looks like Europe dropped the wrx in 2018. Either way, the point was that the price different isn't big enough to warrant the "wrx owners can't afford a gr yaris" comment
@DasWauto
@DasWauto 2 жыл бұрын
I had the previous gen and it seems like a lot of the same qualms remain. The suspension is downright rough and unrefined - it does the performance thing well and I get they have to choose a compromise for the cost but I wish they went a different direction. I’d like Subaru to lean more into the rally car vibe with a sort of factory gravel setup, in the same sort way the Raptor pushes the baja truck vibe. That would be awesome. Anyway, it seems like they have made some decent improvements, to the engine/tuning especially and most obviously. The lack of a hatchback is what will keep me from coming back to the WRX, much as I’d like to otherwise (fingers crossed the Corolla GR is what I think we all hope it to be).
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 2 жыл бұрын
They did that when the wrx was redesigned in ‘08- people complained it was wayy too soft so they revised it in 2011
@pascutia
@pascutia 2 жыл бұрын
So, interestingly enough I just drove the new Legacy for an extended period of time. I was impressed by its poor weather traction, however, I had to drive it over some deeply rutted roads and I noticed something odd. I was going very slowly because how deep those ruts are, but I noticed the roof was creaking. I’ve driven that same road in many different cars, and I never noticed the structure creaking like that. Makes me wonder about the structure’s rigidity.
@bk83082
@bk83082 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone says this new one is ugly, like it hasn't already been ugly for the last 16 years. And hasn't actually looked good since the 2000 model year (2.5 RS in the states.)
@bbehzadi413
@bbehzadi413 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like the I pad screen tbh never saw a problem with the old model. I prefer a more simple interior with a focus on chassis and performance. Excited to see how the new engine will respond to tuning
@franklynlopez7326
@franklynlopez7326 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@NaturalProgressGames
@NaturalProgressGames 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help but notice the gauge in Km/H, is this a Euro Spec or Japan Spec model being given to reviewers for a bait and switch between what we see/hear about reviewed and what we actually buy? (Not on your end, but on the end of the manufacturer.)
@blakslee720
@blakslee720 2 жыл бұрын
Came here after watching your canyon drive in the elantra N, just to make sure I need to save up for the elantra n ;)
@thevideolord
@thevideolord 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame how it looks because the 2.4 is a great motor. A few years ago a shop stuck it in a Crosstrek and made 400+hp on a stock engine
@markthibault8579
@markthibault8579 2 жыл бұрын
What's needed is a Crosstrek WRX manual. Now that would be a wonderful thing...
@1023nick
@1023nick 2 жыл бұрын
This car would be a lot easier to argue "for it" if it had anything that really wowed me about it, but sadly it doesn't.
@gabea.458
@gabea.458 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm disappointed about the lack of fender flares, I'm curious to see how the GR-Four Corolla will stack up against the others.
@MKu64
@MKu64 2 жыл бұрын
I would be curious if it wasn't for the fact that the Corolla has not been a well made car since the AE86 (in terms of anything other than an A-B car). It's been better each year, sure... but in an appliance non-enthusiast way. I'm sure the engine will be fine, but no doubt the interior / functions / feel will be second rate standard Toyota sedan/hatch. I have been yet to drive a modern Toyota that feels like a car I would ever want to drive more than once... the power is there.. but they feel super disconnected. (not including the Supra here). GR Yaris gets good reviews, but after checking one out, I was not impressed in any way, when considering the price.
@deathtollwrx
@deathtollwrx Жыл бұрын
I purchased mine 2 weeks ago (Ice metallic silver, Premium) and I have been pretty happy so far. When I first saw photos of the car online I absolutely hated it. My dealership Timmons Subaru started getting them in but I was NOT interested. Out of the blue my son and I decided to take a closer look and do a test drive. After the test drive I knew absolutely knew I had to have it. I have owned 2003,2011,2015 WRX and this one just felt familiar yet much better in every way. If you just think about the numbers then you might not be impressed but if you actually sit down and take a few minutes to drive one you will see where that extra .4 displacement comes into play.
@hellobooom
@hellobooom Жыл бұрын
Some cars are worth it from the inside, regardless of how hideous they are from the outside.
@AbleMable
@AbleMable Жыл бұрын
I was going to get one in gray to hide the plastic, but I saw a red one in person and loved it. Subarus are ugly, and this one is no different, I love that.
@Strelok762
@Strelok762 2 жыл бұрын
That's been a complaint with my '16 WRX limited too, unless you're consciously turning the radio off.. you don't hear the stock exhaust very well
@Sandals-WithSocks
@Sandals-WithSocks 2 жыл бұрын
First glance, I thought the TST logo was a tattoo on Zack. It instantly made him tougher!
@bendaga
@bendaga 2 жыл бұрын
As a Subaru fan - I’ll stick to the older generation WRX’s. There is nothing really to be excited about here.
@TheJacobshapiro
@TheJacobshapiro 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I wasn’t happy when they spun the WRX off as a separate car rather than just keeping it as a trim of the Impreza. When companies do this, the car always gets neglected. The Civic Si and Type R, as well as the GTI and golf R get refreshed every time the car they’re based on does. Not only does this mean they get more frequent attention from car companies, but needing to accommodate those trims makes the base car better.
@lacoupe5088
@lacoupe5088 4 ай бұрын
Watching this video 2 years later is pretty funny. Turns out this model ended up smashing on the VA WRX and can out tune a VA STI. It’s definitely not their prettiest, but people complain about every new model. I remember the community when the VA’s came out, and the hate it got. Now they benchmark it when they compare it to the VB. 😂
@willr5372
@willr5372 Жыл бұрын
Literally every generation of WRX is hated and then people get over it. Hell I hated it too until I sat in one and drove it. I now have one in my driveway 🤘
@davidsteinhour5562
@davidsteinhour5562 2 жыл бұрын
All Cars 3 was SO good, I can't believe you guys have to promote it. It deserves 10 million downloads
@oxpahnakompromatkohtpol436
@oxpahnakompromatkohtpol436 2 жыл бұрын
Given that a majority of enthusiasts who buy this car will use it with a Cobb AccessPort, I'm surprised that wasn't discussed. Cobb will raise the boost pressure by 5-7 psi and add 50 horsepower. That's the only change I made to my last WRX and it made a world of difference.
@koastal312
@koastal312 2 жыл бұрын
accessport doesn't even add 10% more hp. You need atleast a downpipe and exhaust for a noticeable bump even then it's not fast
@DailyDriver.
@DailyDriver. 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who owned and worked for Subaru. That screen WILL messed up, break, stop functioning, and drive you nuts. God this the info fugly the front end is tolerable without the plastic but the rest is hideous. I had a 17 STI and that was one of the most beautiful vehicles Subaru had made IMO. Also those Dunlop’s my car came with stock sucked! The cvt stuff is offensive too promoting it as a upgrade -_-
@thatoletsie376
@thatoletsie376 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru is not trying anymore, this is what happens when beancounters interfere with the creative process. This car's soul equivalent to a sock with a hole.
@FrankZR1
@FrankZR1 2 жыл бұрын
Right!!! It's like they turned into early 2000's General Motors
@RAZGR1Z
@RAZGR1Z 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys.
@qx4n9e1xp
@qx4n9e1xp 2 жыл бұрын
Good job guise!
@morthomer5804
@morthomer5804 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honest words
@joshuathomas4934
@joshuathomas4934 Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the GR series wrx/sti. To me they look the best and feel the best to drive. It’s refined enough to daily drive but not to much to where you feel like it’s a regular car.
@TheTiDablju
@TheTiDablju 2 жыл бұрын
„But only if you get an automatic transmission (CVT), whiiiiich SUCKS” had me dying lol
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
I give zero shits about the plastic cladding. Having that would make me feel more comfortable about whipping this out on dirt roads
@2jsanc681
@2jsanc681 2 жыл бұрын
You account for 1% of wrx owners, where the other 99% will spend it stanced out in a mall parking lot blowing vap clouds.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
@@2jsanc681 rip. People forget the world rally in WRX 😂
@stevebuscemi3622
@stevebuscemi3622 Жыл бұрын
Subaru: "Am I out of touch? No, it's the vapers who are wrong"
@caliwong
@caliwong 2 жыл бұрын
I would be really curious how this car performs in snow and other trickier weather/road conditions. I want to be able to take it up to the mountains during winter like a Crosstrek and enjoy the sportiness of it year round. I drove an Evo to Tahoe but the car is just a bit too low to comfortably clear any kind of snow-covered roads for me.
@viru52000
@viru52000 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember right, the 2022 has more ground clearance than the outgoing model. Same AWD system as the Crosstrek so you're good there. BUT, the WRX comes with summer tires.
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you have real snow tires installed, makes a MAJOR difference
@TheophanP
@TheophanP Жыл бұрын
Lived in Montana when owned 2018 WRX. This car was great on snow w winter tires. Sure same w this gen, but now love w FL
@Cr125stin
@Cr125stin 2 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend is in the market for something awd and slightly sporty. The problem is she wants an automatic. I don’t think I would let her get this because of the CVT. Every car I’ve been in with a CVT I’ve absolutely hated.
@SuchFinessse
@SuchFinessse 2 жыл бұрын
Used S3 or golf R would do it if cost of upkeep isn’t as much of an issue. Their transmissions blow a cvt out the water lol
@deet4895
@deet4895 2 жыл бұрын
Mazda 3 Turbo!
@Cr125stin
@Cr125stin 2 жыл бұрын
@@deet4895 I never even thought to look at Mazda! I just looked at their website and ya that Mazda 3 turbo looks awesome! I can’t believe I never thought of looking at them. The hatch and the sedan both look really nice, especially for a top trim turbo for around $33k.
@deet4895
@deet4895 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cr125stin Yeah unfortunately alot of people forget or ignore Mazda, but they make really good reliable cars.
@mikemattern6345
@mikemattern6345 2 жыл бұрын
The question I'm am extremely curious about is how the new motor accepts higher Horsepower. With the old motor you normally had to pretty much get a different bottom end for big power.
@mmonkeyman1403
@mmonkeyman1403 11 ай бұрын
Its a much stronger engine. Much better power delivery. I still wouldn't push it too much.
@bobknight6394
@bobknight6394 2 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THE CLADDING .. GOOD PROTECTION..
@158158cow
@158158cow 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about shift feel, but no mention of the ND Miata?? ;)
@raver208
@raver208 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Subaru could have simply installed the all-new motor, revised 6-speed manual in the previous body style....I feel most fans would have been happy. I liked the exterior styling since 2006 thru 2021, was just the right level of evolution. And of course add the optional suspension to manual models as well as CVT models. Can handle the CVT being in the WRX so long as it stays out of the STi. = P LOVE that one can still get a true , fully connected twin dual tip Exhaust system. No Fake tips on our WRX's!!!
@michaelbullington3182
@michaelbullington3182 2 жыл бұрын
"right level of evolution" .. Mitsubishi has joined...
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 2 жыл бұрын
Why? The new platform is much stiffer than the last one- matts complaint was not about how it handled. Sure the suspension could be revised bu thats not the platform’s problem
@brendanfogel4573
@brendanfogel4573 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie the body is growing on me, once you go after marker and paint the fender flares it’ll look really good imo
@ofwgthaidgaf
@ofwgthaidgaf 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@ravagerracing306
@ravagerracing306 2 жыл бұрын
Good, honest review. Thanks guys! The big question: if you have a newer previous gen WRX, are you really missing out if you don't dump it for the new one? Many of the things you mentioned are definitely carry-over issues from the previous gen. I HATE the stock shifter of my 2020 WRX for the same reasons. Same on the seat height - feels like you're on top of it and not in it. Very stiff - my FR-S on coilovers is more comfortable than my WRX with stock suspension
@jaybosher6144
@jaybosher6144 2 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with you. Is the new engine n chassis worth trading up? I think the new brz and gr86 definitely did a better job in justifying a trade in this gen
@ravagerracing306
@ravagerracing306 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaybosher6144 100% agree. I would trade my FR-S in a heartbeat. I can't decide if I should be upset I didn't hold out for the new WRX or be totally good with it
@jaybosher6144
@jaybosher6144 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravagerracing306 idk about you but if you'd want to sell it there's dealers falling over themselves trying to buy this gen wrx. Gotten offers for almost what I paid for it including tax. Problem is trying to get a new car without getting ripped off lol. Msrp is considered a good deal in today's market
@ravagerracing306
@ravagerracing306 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaybosher6144 that's a really fair point. I hadn't even thought about what I might end up paying for the new one
@jaybosher6144
@jaybosher6144 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravagerracing306 it'd dealer dependent as some charge msrp and some add on. Best way I've seen to get msrp is to order one vs getting one off the lot. Its all backwards now lol.
@greggamandabarkus4235
@greggamandabarkus4235 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the older body style WRX. My wife and I have a 2014 with 50,000mi and we love everything about it, i call it the Unicorn cuz it's so low miles and such great shape. Im a Toyota guy and saw this Subaru and had to snatch it up. It's charcoal, heated leather and 5-speed.
@brandon7136
@brandon7136 2 жыл бұрын
They have squeezed all of the juice out of WRX's and STi's. These were fun back in 2007 and earlier.
@brianmiller5444
@brianmiller5444 2 жыл бұрын
Had an earlier generation Sti a decade ago and have to say it was not all that. My previous car was a 2016 Focus ST of all things, and that was a great car. The STI just felt sluggish and the Ford just had better steering
@ross2358
@ross2358 2 жыл бұрын
Please review the new m240i. Curious to get your take on it
@timsgarage1861
@timsgarage1861 8 ай бұрын
I went to the dealer to buy a new wrx. couldn't get pass the look of it. Thought it would grow on me in person. Nope, drove away with a low mile 21 wrx. I also prefer knobs for the hvac. We all know what happens to our old laptops and phones in the inevitable time when we either hit it with something or the screen goes out. Having those screens in cars is like keeping our phones and laptops for 6 years or more
@LUNCHMONEY4numbers
@LUNCHMONEY4numbers 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not too worried about the fenders. Surely aftermarket companies will save the day and design some great looking replacements
@justinbecker4772
@justinbecker4772 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for talking about Radar Cruise in manual transmissions. The omission of that (and a lot of other adaptive safety features) was a huge letdown with the BRZ 6MT. I can't justify that being my ONE car if it doesn't have features that are standard on other 6MT vehicles (Golf R, Civic Si, etc)
@justinbecker4772
@justinbecker4772 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gandalf721 the car can be for more than one thing. I want my 6mt in the canyons, and my adaptive cruise control in rush hour. No reason I shouldn't have both.
@ianholmquist8492
@ianholmquist8492 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinbecker4772 na, Gandalf is right. In a driver's car I want no nanny stuff, and as little electronic bs as possible. Part of why I love subaru and why I bought a 21 sti
@justinbecker4772
@justinbecker4772 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianholmquist8492 you do realize this stuff can be disabled? My 22 brz is incredible in the canyon. It just happens to also be great in bumper to bumper, as well.
@marksix3027
@marksix3027 2 жыл бұрын
Was considering a wrx in to replace our impreza sport hatchback but not if they don't get rid of all that plastic.
@MT-bh8rl
@MT-bh8rl 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's nice accord wrx you got there
@ThaDentMan
@ThaDentMan 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I wish they would just bring back the 02 Wrx and make them. I screwed up hard trading in a 98 prelude for a ser spec v Sentra, really should have got the Wrx.
@alexizmonteiro2063
@alexizmonteiro2063 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how every time I see the rear it looks like my old 2012 si in the rear and honestly the civic looked overall better but still love the front glad I got my 2018 sti but overall it looks okay
@M16xblowDRO
@M16xblowDRO 2 жыл бұрын
And that feeling in the back seat has long been a Subaru trait (we've owned seven total 2 new and 5 used)
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 Жыл бұрын
Looks like if Pontiac made an Aztek rally car. I can't believe they're sticking with the 271hp limit from the 1990's ! WTF ??
@codermyers
@codermyers 2 жыл бұрын
There's only one thing about a CVT I might appreciate - if it were a design compromise that allowed mid-engine, AWD to happen in an affordable car. The probability of that happening before EVs take over that part of the market is not looking good.
@Chilicharger665
@Chilicharger665 2 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense at all.
@codermyers
@codermyers 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chilicharger665 Yes, when WangChung doesn't understand something, that's because it makes no sense at all. Otherwise, WangChung might have to learn something, and we can't have that.
@ItsAlive111
@ItsAlive111 2 жыл бұрын
If new tires with only 2k miles sound loud, it’s not the tires, it’s the lack of sound insulation :(
@Wazza722
@Wazza722 Жыл бұрын
When they have physical buttons for the heating and ac and volume ,wireless Apple car play and loose the cladding I will buy one!
@Jushwa
@Jushwa 2 жыл бұрын
why did they do the plastic cladding? is it to protect it from shopping carts or something
@718Insomniac
@718Insomniac 9 ай бұрын
I wish you guys had the factory short throw + factory sti catback exhaust. It changes the car alot. Now what to do about the suspension around town....in Brooklyn it kills me. Literally.
@johnrobinson1328
@johnrobinson1328 9 ай бұрын
The factory STI exhaust isn't a cat-back. It's just mufflers.
@victorherrero4790
@victorherrero4790 Жыл бұрын
Good overall video. But you have one mistake...its not the only AWD car in the segment, there is the Mazda 3 Turbo, also awd.
@AbleMable
@AbleMable Жыл бұрын
But no manual transmission, so the Mazda can kiss my butt
@cmdrdarwin3682
@cmdrdarwin3682 2 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda sad that Subaru no longer dominates this segment. Manual transmissions are fun, but if you spend any time in stop & go traffic, you will want an automatic, but certainly NOT the Subaru CVT. Not a player for me.
@str8cash113
@str8cash113 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The M/T is dead in America.
@gozer722
@gozer722 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how you guys would compare this to the Hyundai Elentra N
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