correct. No more V8.

Didn’t like dodge before still don’t like them…

@@ryanfaubert2014what about the HD rams? That Cummins engine is great

The Hemi was sooo outdated it was time. There are likely millions for sale today with very low miles you can get to retain & enjoy. The way that new Hurricane inline6 turbo is going to develop power will make the majority of buyers asking why it took so long!!!

That's exactly why it's a deal breaker for me. No Hemi, no gimme.

I don’t think Ford is keeping Coyote much longer either tbh. Its days are numbered as well.

@@d3adk964 true, the 3.5 Ecoboost V6 would replace its spot too

@@d3adk964 The Coyote is being kept for the duration of the S650 Generation, so until 2030-2032.

@@seansiew5629The 3.5 Eco"beast" is dying too. Ford announced a while back that they are paying more attention to the 3.7 and have plans to create a 4.0L turbo Inline-6. They plan on making the 3.5 a high output mild hybrid V6 using similar technology as Chrysler's eTorque. The 3.7 will take the 3.5 Ecoboost's spot while adding a single turbo to it. Coyote V8 is being replaced with a new 4.0L turbo Inline-6 that Ford is currently developing.

Fords coyote has cylinder deactivation

Should have had a supercharged 5.7L hemi R/T truck years ago but nooooo we get a hunk of crap turbo 6 😂 power or not the 5.7L can’t be replaced by a 💩 6 cylinder

This engine is built like a tank, it'll be fine.

history has shown us that the Inline-6 engine format is typically bullet proof.

Ford ecoboost has been relatively solid.

@@BoostedYotecan and has

The wouldn’t do that, because that’s what most people would get. And that doesn’t fit the “agenda” if you will.

Government is to blame for the death of the v8

V8’s are failing new emissions.

I hope this isnt a new redesign because it looks the same

Exactly. Let the market decide rather than shove the climate change hoax down everyone’s throat

If people keep buying these trucks at ridiculous prices, they'll keep selling them at ridiculous prices. It's going to take another recession to change this

Lesson. If you don’t need a truck, don’t buy one. Perhaps a smaller vehicle would suffice?There are always good used trucks in the marketplace; no one says you have to buy new. Buying what you can afford concept has been around a long time, it’s not new. I hope the price of new trucks comes down too but there are solutions in the interim. In the meantime, there are folks and businesses who can actually afford them.

The pain is coming and rapidly!!! Ugh!!

Yea i'll stick to my $500 30 year old Toyota. Will probably still outlast this thing too.

The price of raw materials is going up so it’s costing auto manufacturers more to build these cars so of course the additional cost is going to get pushed to the consumer.

Hold that thought....a new version may be in dev

Going to miss hearing them tick at red lights

@@josepuga3387 yea cant deny that haha

​@@josepuga3387It's gonna miss seeing you trying to keep up too...👌....Lol

My cars and trucks with hemi is going to fetch a nice penny soon. Dealership are already begging to buy mine at $15,000 more than I paid. I won't have a Dodge or ram without a hemi. I guess I'll be buying mustang for now on

Also Aluminum blocks and maybe smaller capacity with turbo charging. But I belive they made the right choice in using a straight six. That configuration is very smooth and powerful. And compared to a V8, the S6 sounds almost as good.

To bad most of us wouldn’t understand them it’s an Italian engine

trying to attract a younger group of consumers haha

​@dang5553 it's not an Italian engine. They been working on this engine for 5yrs.

It’s caught on fire it was going to make its Debut at road kill nights it failed this year in a challenger. It’s a game with the government and epa the HEMI will return

@@dang5553I mean the HeMi was built in Mexico,,, so was the hurricane

395 hp*

Yep my parent's 2019 my dad loves it 8spd and almost 400hp. zero effort

A 6300lbs Grand Wagoneer L hit 0-60 in 4.6 secs on MT, so a 5800lbs Ram w/ 392 rear is going to be insane.

My 5.0L still spanks the new rams lol

@@evictioncarpentry2628 for now

So you have a pentastar V-6 with no drive train. Just to be used as a generator? So how much does this weigh? You have a fully functioning engine and electric motors with batteries. You lug this generator with you as added weight and use it when you need to charge up the batteries. And this makes sense how? This is green how? Insanity at its finest. Can engineers get anymore idiotic? Let’s just tell the government to get out of our business and for starts… just protect the border. And when they get that right let’s give them something easier. Good luck.

@@randylear8264 I agree, overkill for the generator. A lightweight 3 or 4 cylinder would be better. But if you have to go ev at least have a generator on board.

The strategy doesn't count for much if the base price of the trucks doesn't change. The 2023's and 24's are rotting on dealer lots because nobody wants to pay $50k for an entry level trim truck. Even if interest rates drop a couple points, the prices Stellantis wants for a new Ram truck are insane and out of touch with reality.

@@SomeoneImportantLikeYou : He is talking about the hybrid truck, the 2025 Ramcharger. It's estimated to have 145 miles of electric only range & 690 miles total range - "The All-New 2025 Ramcharger delivers a Best-in-Class Targeted 690 total miles of Range and is set to be a game changer in the world of electric pickup trucks." The all electric Ram truck is the REV - "PLATFORM AND POWERTRAIN The REV rides on the new STLA Frame platform designed for body-on-frame electric vehicles. A choice of two battery packs will sit between the rails: a 168-kWh pack good for 350 miles of range and a 229-kWh pack good for 500 miles."

Did you get it new in 19? Or?

Almost everyone I know loves the Hemi. I did all the maintenance, and was not hard on it and all it did was give me trouble. Exhaust manifold bolts breaking. Oil pump, timing cover leak, which I fixed at the same time as failing oil pump. Valve cover gaskets. It was a Dodge/Ram product so of course the transmission. Glad to be rid of it actually.

They'll be coming out a new hemi soon enough

@@2010drive hwmi 2 cyl engine

5.7 hemi only came with etorq trash for 2023 why I stuck with my 19

I'm honestly surprised Ford didn't do that with their current PowerBoost when they did the refresh for 2024, or at least give us a plug-in hybrid for that or for the smaller 2.7 Ecoboost. I understand it would add complexity. We love our PB, but having say 20 miles of pure electric for commuting would be awesome.

It will be able to power your house too in complete silence. The battery will recharge while you drive to work and run errands.

@richardnavratil9661 I was definitely looking at the hybrid Ford. I had a Pacifica PHEC and it was pretty great too. Take the Pacifica, add 5 times the battery and 8 times the electric horsepower plus AWD and a big tow rating? Yes please!

Just hold till you see how much it will cost you, out the door....LOL. Make sure you don't eat, before you enter the dealer. 😂😂😂

@@alp3781 I’m sure there will be a lot off of MSRP. The car and truck market is changing. Intermittent fasting is actually good for you and saves money.

Globalism is going to kill your expectation of aftermarket support. Welcome to the new world order.

I think they have no option but to try other things, if it works good, if it doesn't , they move on , otherwise is they live in the past, they might go bankrupt.

Nothing FCA can get parts. They're always backordered. V8 won't come back.

Lol ya probably right.

Ford's ecoboost has proved that turbos can be pretty reliable, but Ford had its growing pains at first too.

@@kinsmen1764bruh that’s not why they moved to a v6 because of the government. It’s Dodge’s fault why it went this way😂

Girly Girl sound 😂😂😂

They both sound like garbage mate.

Even $80k is optimistic. Rebels approach $80k now and Limited’s approach $90k

Nothing beats a V8! Except for the engine that literally beats it in every metric.

​@JahyMoonwalker no replacement for displacement. Less reliable

@@agger838 ah yes the super reliable dodge lol

@@JahyMoonwalkerPeople who have never driven a turbo v6 will keep hating. I traded my tuned 2018 Raptor for a 2020 Ram Limited. Mostly because I thought we were going to be towing more often but we ended up buying a small farm instead of a RV. I liked the sound of the Hemi once I added real exhaust but it was terribly weak compared to the tuned Raptor. So not even two years later I was back in a Raptor and I had it tuned for 93 octane the first week! Not as fast as a TRX or Raptor R but it has enough to get scary in a truck and I get 20mpg on the highway.

@@RSRS-ws3px yeah, it's the KZfaq comment section, I have no positive expectations

Yea I went with a Chevy HD the 2024 has a great refresh. Wanted a RAM but they are so outdated.

2JZ, OM606, Vortec 4200, BMW B58, Ford Barra are more good examples

@@dro3m Agreed, but I was keeping it in the (former) Chrysler family.

@@skiahh Ah yes should of realized

😂

And warped manifolds 😮

I much rather deal with broken exhaust manifold bolts on a Hemi than this engine. @@tdel8613

No company built more Turbos in the 80's than Chrysler. If anything like that the Turbos should be awesome.

You're right. That Omni GLHS was a badass little car!@@bikingD

Hope you didn’t get the 5.7… Etorq is straight shit.

Yes, that's the real big news here. That range-extending generator is a big deal for trucks and Ram has promised 500mi+ of range. I think Ram was smart to offer both the EV and EV+. They may very well be the first truck maker to figure it all out. We already know it will have the biggest battery of any EV and Ram is targeting 800+hp.

Chevy Volt was ahead of its time

Chevy Volt and BMW i3 REX also had gasoline engines to extend range.

Hopefully we see a small diesel engine hybrid truck someday. It’s frustrating that the US blocks many diesel vehicles. The vw golf gets something like 70mpg. Just imagine that engine in a hybrid like a Prius (obviously something better looking)

Love my i3...will live this one 😊

it's slowly becoming more of a girl's truck

@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl Most people who work a truck have abandoned 1/2 tons anyway.

Interesting guess, but the 3.6L V6 is still there.

I think most of the low-rpm high-power turbo engines (the ones focused around trucks) are designed for the boost, and either don’t run well or don’t put out any power if the turbo is removed. I don’t see turbo-diesel engines for sale in vehicles without the turbo, and I suspect it is for the same reason

As long as the Pentastar is sticking around for other products, it's just cheaper to keep using it instead of engineering another version of the I6... for now. Also, 3.0NA is a bit lean for a full-size truck. While the SST engines should be extremely competitive, the Pentastar is now the only NA V6 base engine. The eTorque powered inverter is cool, and I can't imagine Ram not offering something with the SST engines.

It'll eventually be phased out like the Hemi and replaced with an I4 Hurricane probably. Th 2L engine with an SRT tune was able to put out almost as much HP as the original 5.7 Hemi from the mid-2000s and probably wasn't too far off in torque. I'd really like to see an I5 and V8 built on the Hurricane platform. I'd be WAY more comfortable with a 4L TTV8 under the hood of the Ram as the HO engine as opposed to the TTI6 since it would have two more cylinders to use. More displacement, more cylinders, less stress for the same power. A 2.5L I5 would actually be a good balance between power and performance. As a bonus you get baby Viper sounds with it as well. A Ram with an I5, I6, and V8 with low displacement and decent power output would do them wonders.

@@uniqu3xperience965I always heard they were cheaper than V6s because only 1 head and 2 cams. They mostly disappeared because they don’t fit well in front wheel drive cars and truck buyers moved towards V8s

How does it tow?

I have a Hemi now in my Durango and had the Ford 2.7tt before. Other than the sound, the 2.7tt was better. I6 has that buttery smooth power delivery so I have no doubt I agree with you.

Road tests the Hurricane was 1 mpg better,performance the 6.4 was quicker than the 510 hp Hurricane from 5-60 and passing!!

I had a grand wagoner for a bit and it had the hurricane engine in it. Was very smooth and sounded nice. Averaged 18 mpg. Mostly highway and little city.

They'll still complain. Even the REV and the Banshee, once they see what they do with the Hybrid/EV side of it and it starts making clowns of the Tesla folks they'll secretly love it but bash it on the forums.

Yes you are right !!!

If the trains holds up. That trains isn't the same at the one in the TRX or anything that had more then 500hp before.

*transmission

although the exhaust sound will be terrible...

@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl IDK man, straight 6 exhausts have sounded fairly decent. Definitely won't be as nice as a Hemi or the 6.2L V8 in the TRX

@@Tylnorton definitely better than V6s but not against V8s

​@@HSstudio.YtchnnlToyota 2jz engine with exhaust?

@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl there are plenty of stock and modded I6s that sound even better or as good as a v8

False lol… had to go to the other side of Canada to get my 24 Denali… sold out across Canada and continues to be sold out…. There’s definitely not a shortage of people who can afford them

@@handleymacdonald5760probably comes down to pricing in US vs Canada, i remember when the new gen civic came out it came out more expensive in the united states (even after doin the conversion of currencies) while having far fewer/cut features aswell in american models. Id assume this might be the case across the board? Pricing wise at least but idk

@TheRealMediaPlug23 I disagree. GM is investing in new V8's going forward and trucks make the best use case to recoup development costs.

​@@blang38GM is developing a new small block V8.

If only the gm twins didn't look like crap

@@chadd587 I agree about Chevy, but GMC is easily the best looking truck in the segement in my opinion. This new Ram looks goofy compared to the current model, which actually looked decent...

@TheRealMediaPlug23 GM has already announced investment/development of a next gen V8 for their trucks and SUV's, the small block Chevy V8 isn't going anywhere for atleast another decade.

F150s are far more comfortable then dodge or GM on road trips. I would know I own them all and the Ford is the only one I can drive 12 hours a day and not have a sore back.

Honestly the sightlines on all the modern pickups sucks. Pretty much every medium and heavy duty commercial vehicle design has moved on to designs with sloped hoods that allow for a lot greater visibility and aerodynamics. Light duty trucks are obsessed with looking super macho to help the fragile insecurity of the guys who buy them.

​@@evictioncarpentry2628idk my 15 ram i find more comfy that my brother in laws 23 f-150

@@evictioncarpentry2628I had a base cloth XL F150 loaner and drove for 11 hours only stopping for fuel/restroom and am shocked I had zero fatigue after.

@@evictioncarpentry2628 💯 correct

Tbh I like this. For instance the new toyota tundra changed too much for the exterior and looks awful. Interior and power train is what auto manufactures should be focusing on more than anything.

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Same here ... love my F150 3.5 all the way around. The Ram is nice looking and would be on my check list for a new truck. And enough of the soft looking comments ... the new Ram looks great.

I find it comical that those of you that are already driving a boosted 6 cylinder engine are saying that it's a great platform and a good direction to be going. Then there are the ones that haven't, like current hemi owners saying that it's a shit idea to go this route 😂

@@furion7040 there's gonna be fan boys in each camp! Gives each platform a fighting chance to exist, I like a good 8 myself. It's hard not to feel like the V8 is disappearing with this move, esp with Ram/Dodge really pushing the envelope over the last decade. But it's had a good run no question, and we may find ourselves all pinning for a V8 again in the not too distant future ha.

Same here; stick to the speed limit and the 3.5L will return much better mpg than it's rated. It takes some time to learn how to drive a turbo, I average 21 mpg in mixed driving, but at the same time if I need power it's there.

@@Steve-yr5vi you make a good point, there's totally a learning curve to the turbo and it can be really rewarding once you find the sweet spots for different driving tasks.

Its a great engine

They're judging that reduced sales will be more than offset by not paying the gas guzzler fines.

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Yeah, that's one way to look at it.

@@revgordon91 That's the way Carlos Tavares talks about it, so it could be argued it's the only way to look at it.

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Yeah, true. I do remember hearing about that. I'm sure the TRX will have a hybrid like the Tundra,

You will know it's a Ram when it prematurely falls apart.

It does have a ridgeline look to it.

@@the_halfshell ..they actually do...consumers reports said most reliable new truck! Resale values are high,depends where you are..Honda's here are not that good and reliability on a Honda is so/so..I am a certified tech worked at Toyota and ditto with Toyota!

Yes, that’s the key. Needs to be mid to low $50,000 range, otherwise it would be more effective to get a lower trim and save your money.

400hp weak😂 you clearly know nothing

The Coyote is a much better choice. The current 5.0 will out pull and outrun the 5.7 Hemi all day long.@@moparjr89

@@moparjr89 it is weak when it’s moving around a 5400lb truck and also when compared to Fords power trains

They are making a midsize truck won't have the i6 though

If they made a Dakota with the Hurricane and a manual I would immediately make a decision I would never financially recover from.

Love my dakota

@@cap10newport95agreed!!!!

Regards to you from Greece

The HEMI is not dead people will not like paying 93 octane for this engine

You never even tried the engine out yet

What kind of issues is the 3.0 having already?!😂

Fire transmission lines lines. I saw a video that dodge had a hyped version in a drag pak it sucked

It literally has a front bumper

​@@greengabe5 Well, if it does, I damn sure don't see one. I much prefer a traditional bumper like most trucks still have.

AFAIK, the DS Classic is finally done, and the HD is moving to the DT cab. So yes, regular cab is coming, but I would bet ZERO dollars on a short box.

Me too! I know they laughed about it. I love the r/t ram. They got rid or the sport. It would be awesome if they had it with the newer style cab.

It takes electricity to run gas stations and to pump and pay for gas. Electricity is everywhere. No grid upgrades are needed, especially as most electric vehicles can get charged at home late night when the grid has ample and excess capacity while most people are sleeping. Gas station construction with in ground tanks is expensive. Electric vehicle chargers are cheap in comparison.

@@dvader3263 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Yeah, ok. You’re not saving the planet by going all electric.

​@@Thomas-qk7wf He wasn't claiming to.

I dont think the grid is anywhere near ready for 300 million vehicles, that will take decades, not to mention all the batteries. We are decades away from electric vehicles beating engines.

Exactly.

For the most part agree. I love the current gen RAM's looks but it's just a tad over the top giving it a somewhat adolescent feel. Ford always looked more "grown up" to me. This design refresh looks like a good balance.

Yes it actually looks like something an adult would buy instead of something only kids or arrested development males would buy😒………big step forward for those that can afford to buy new trucks! 🤷🏽‍♂️

Two problems with that. For one this is Stellantis we're talking about here. The engine in the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer doesn't have a dipstick, so you literally can't check the oil physically unless you drain it. Even if you are willing to rely on the sensors, again we're talking about Stellantis here, you still can't check to see if there is cross contamination between the fluids or metal in the oil if a bearing is starting to let go. The other thing is while these can produce more power it's doing it with two less cylinders and high boost. Even if they build the engine with forced induction in mind you will probably still wear it out faster than the 5.7 or 3.6 if you load it out constantly. I'd feel more comfortable with a 4.8L I6 Hemi built off of the 6.4 platform and hardened like the Hellcat than the Hurricane since the engine has more displacement. It won't have to work as hard and you still get the Hemi reliability. It wouldn't be the first Chrysler inline 6 Hemi either since they've already made one I the Australian market and it was about as solid as the Slant Six.

@@DJ2226the thing about the dipstick missing,,, actually a lot of companies are actually going away with the dipstick and using sensors to check your oil, and yes I agree this is a terrible idea.

@@DJ2226 so a couple of things, the 3.0T is based off of the 2.0T that has been serving duty in the JL Wrangler since 2018. It doesn't have any known catastrophic issues and is pretty solid on performance. Where Stellantis was smart was to make the turbo system parallel as opposed to sequential like the V6s from Ford and Toyota. That means on demand boost, seamlessly and ab experience closer to a naturally aspirated engine in being linear with power delivery. As a fan of the Hemi, I'm saddened by its demise, but at least Ram has answered with big power and increased technology.

The Ram version of the L6 has always been the Cummins B series. The only issues with the newer versions are the fact that they tried to make them quieter (now have issues that didn't happen with solid lifters/cams) and the emissions systems on diesels are terrible.

@@rich7447 The newer versions of the Cummims B Series Emgomes were required to meet the emission s set forth by the EPA, and this is the way they had to do it. Even Ford and GM had to do it as well! I am a true believer in the CUMMINS ENGINES, and have had them in Dodge/ Ram pickups since 1990!

GM is able to do the same thing with the Silverado 1500 without sacrificing the V8. Infact here in N.Z the Silverado 1500 is only avaliable with the 6.2L.

Toyota is the #1 automaker in the world. Again

What kind of fuel mileage are u getting in your wagoneer with S.O Hurricane motor? And also what is the towing rating?

They might be working on a new all aluminum Hemi with direct injection and boost, but that adds complexity as well as cost, and it will be heavier than an i6. I guess that new V8 only will be available in TRX/Hellcat configurations.