Works great, too.

Glad I could help!

You'll have several options. They have a couple old-school options (metal frame, pads) for $35 and $70 (Pittsburgh and Daytona) as well as $35 and $80 plastic-molded creepers (the two in the video Pittsburgh and Icon). If you use them occasionally, the less-expensive ones are probably fine. If you use them often, the more expensive ones are probably worth it. I don't entirely blame the broken wheel on HF - I was running across that lip a fair bit over the last several years and I'm not a small boy. I got the Icon knowing the lip situation wasn't changing any time soon and figuring it was at least twice as sturdy. I'll probably store the old one somewhere as a backup, but likely won't ever need it - the Icon feels extremely sturdy... Thanks for visiting!

Enjoy it!

I hadn't noticed the plates at the top! I just went in my garage and my M12 Rover light attaches nicely! THAT'S going to come in handy!

@@themessygarage i think that two of the tool pockets on the sides might be magnetic to hold screws and parts from rolling around. I could be wrong, havent tried it yet.

Where's the link

@@AFatherToTheFatherless he was just blowing smoke up our ......

I don't think so.

That's an interesting solution! You mean fill the whole chassis, not just the wheel area?

@@themessygarage no… I just filled up the 6 wheel areas. I used the whole can, lay it horizontal & dry overnight. The stuff expands on it’s own & improves the creeper 1000%

Yeah the main flaw is that there is no suppport fit the bolts that hold the wheels. The foam will fill the gap and essentially create a solid section of plastic so the wheels won’t flex, reducing stress on the plates and plastic. Don’t need it on the whole creeper, just the fail points

Really good. The whole thing is a LOT stiffer, and it moves better. I've used it a fair bit over the last couple weeks, and been very happy.

For the Pittsburgh, using two bolts creates a pivot point. I agree a metal plate would help, but ultimately the Icon is using beefier plastic, four bolts for each wheel and a plate. I'm really seeing the difference in how sturdy the Icon is - I didn't really notice the flex in the Pittsburgh until I used the Icon - lol.

I'm wondering if the icon has an integrated metal frame that the casters bolt to instead of just rivet or speed nuts. I pulled the casters off previous creepers in case one fails I had spares. When this one finally craps out, I'm getting the icon. Hopefully they have replacement casters soon.

@@2009KVFD976 not likely inside, be hard in a blow mold process to add steel inside.

The Pittsburgh is clearly a light-duty product. I'm not exactly a light guy, and have been pretty busy in the Messy Garage over the last couple years, so while I'd say it wasn't a bad product, it's definitely not the one to pick of you're a bigger guy and/or you do a lot of work involving a creeper. I change the oil in three of our cars today - the most I've used the Icon creeper yet - and I have to say it is clearly a better product (as it should be for $80).

How in the world do you go through 3 creepers in 6 months? Either you're too big for them or idk it's not possible

@@AFatherToTheFatherless or they are crap. I've yet to see one of the plastic creepers that are really very good, probably an inherent design problem.

@@cbmech2563 even in a poorly designed one you must be doing something...the only things possible are you're throwing it around or you just plain weigh too much and you need one with a metal frame

@@AFatherToTheFatherless the first one maybe I was a little rough on it, the second one? Not a chance. The 3rd one I have at home and use it 2 or 3 times a year. It still cracked out around the wheel mount after about the second use. I weigh 210 with my work boots on, so you figure out what the problem is JA

Having used it a fair bit since the video, I'd say the Icon is a LOT sturdier than the Pittsburgh: Stiffer, more strongly built, better casters attached at four points vs. 2, thicker/denser plastic, etc. Definitely a whole different animal.

240+ :(

It's been really good! I didn't realize it had spots for magnetic lights. That's been very handy!

@@themessygarage did the wheels fall out of the plastic like the other one?

@@russkielol Nope - they're not going anywhere - 4 attachment points and a MUCH beefier frame, so I don't expect any issues. It's also more comfortable than the old Pittsburgh.

Troof - it gets worse as you get older, too ;)

I works out to be pretty low...

Sorry for the delayed reply - which wheel are you referring to? The Icon has been working great in my garage, and the mount and wheels are very sturdy - I don't have any worries they'll fail at this point.

Im talking about the Pittsburg version. The wheels give out after a year or two.@@themessygarage

It's rookie mistake in most cases, but done purposefully here because of the product. Video in landscape left a lot of my driveway in the shots. I do appreciate the feedback!

@@themessygarage even if done purposely, when viewing the video in landscape, the item is still going to appear the same size if you had taken the video in landscape. Additionally, it would have been a lot easier to see the side by side comparison.

80 smackers. (It is mentioned in the video description)

ITC it’s $59 just picked one up

@@roush1320 that's a steal!

Thanks yall

@@roush1320 What does "ITC'" mean?

As I mentioned above, I understand it's generally to be avoided, but in this case the subject matter is literally portrait-shaped and it seemed to fit. Sorry my style isn't getting there fast enough for you. I try to make it interesting, but I'm not trying to hammer through the video.