The new LEICA M10 R sees in the DARK

The new LEICA M10 R sees in the DARK | High ISO & Low NOISE

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4 жыл бұрын

I am testing the new Leica M10-R for its high ISO and noise behavior including dynamic range observations.
Watch in 4K and ignore some color banding due to video compression.
See also my other videos on the Leica M10-R.
Intro and hands-on (new Leica M10-R):
• NEW LEICA M10-R - The ...
Comparison Leica M10-R and M10-P:
• NEW LEICA M10-R vs M10...
See also my videos on the new Leica M10 Monochrome.
Leica M10 Monochrom shooting the Milky Way:
• Leica M10 Monochrom Ni...
Leica M10 Monochrom sees in the dark:
• The LEICA M10 MONOCHRO...
Leica M10 Monochrom is sharp like 120 MP:
• SHARP as 120MP | LEICA...
Shooting black & white Portraits and Street with the M10 Mono:
• Shooting the NEW LEICA...
Music: epidemicsound.com

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@robertolouth7468 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing what the new Leica can do. Thank you

@BPLeroyLotusEvora 4 жыл бұрын

Super, as always! Thx!

@francisschweitzer8431 4 жыл бұрын

Nice test. Thank You

@chepo1956 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Math, Jose from Puerto Rico. This was a fine review of this camera. What I enjoyed about it is that you did a real-world test. Sure, as I've seen on other channels, you can speculate or show a technical specification sheet of the camera. But there is a difference between specs, theories, etc, etc about what a camera will do based on a sheet of paper and an actual test by getting out there at 12 mid-night and shooting with the camera as you did. This is why I subscribed a long time ago to your channel even though I don't own a Leica camera or for that matter any camera yet. Frankly, it exhausts me to see other channels make a judgment on equipment solely based on what is written on a spec sheet and not actually trying out a Leica or any other equipment and seeing for your self the results. You're a very knowledgable photographer who has fun doing what you're doing and in the end, that is what it's all about: enjoyment of Photography.

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@stkhapugin 4 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone posting high-ISO and long exposure results! It seems like M10R is great for amateur night sky photography, bar the poor coma correction on the rangefinder lenses. If only LENR was not mandatory!

@JohnArmstrongMillar 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this . It seems Leica are very cautious about sensor heat damage. I saw your video in the Q2 and night photography. It's a bit of a shame the cameras are limited in this way.

@streetphotography.globetro7744 3 жыл бұрын

using the rule of 500/35mm you get 14 seconds max exposure time for pinpoint stars, so in the picture with 8 seconds there is coma aberration from the lens.

@farhadfarajov8030 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Math, very informative video, thank you. Can you please advise how M10R sensor is compared to SL2 sensor, in terms of overall IQ, dynamic range and low light (high ISO) capability.

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Comparison posted on Saturday :) And there will be another follow-up soon with a second round of testing.

@Rene-DdW 2 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer I just found it 😀 In fact I saw the series on this. Just finished. Excellent videos. Thank you!

@Rene-DdW 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Math, again a very informative video indeed. I would follow Farhad here and am also interested in the M10R / SL2 dynamic range and low light performances. I was also impressed by the 50K ISO output. Is there a chance you can elaborate a bit on to achieve this result? Thanks. René

@Jez2008UK 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any way you could tell me if that'd be the same results with regards to dynamic range with the M10-P ? I was originally thinking of getting the R, but thanks to your other video, ie the one where you compare the two side by side, I prefer the convenience of the smaller file sizes as well as the images you showed coming out of the P version (as opposed to the R version), so am tempted more by that lower pixel count model now (thanks to you!) :) Thank you :)

@williaminbody205 3 жыл бұрын

I did some Nuewise astro photography with my SL. I didn’t know about the noise reduction count down. Explain how the works and when it kicks in....

@anewlifestirring 4 жыл бұрын

Very enlightening A pity that some passages of the video were blurry out of focus... what camera do you use for shooting the video?

@Narsuitus 3 жыл бұрын

Very useful video. I was hoping to see how you set the ISO to 50,000. Is this the procedure to used to set the ISO to 50,000? 1. In the Menu, in the ISO Setup, set the M-ISO and/or the Maximum Auto ISO to 50,000. 2. If you set the M-ISO to 50,000, then select the "M" setting on the ISO dial. 3. If you set the Maximum Auto ISO to 50,000, then select the "A" setting on the ISO dial. 4. The "M" setting will only set the ISO to 50,000. 5. The "A" setting may set the ISO to 50,000 or it may set the ISO lower than 50,000 depending on how much light is read by the light meter.

@Gravitys-NOT-a-force 4 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see the (hand-held) 'street photography' equivalent of this video. The thought boggles my mind. Are Leica's Noctilux lenses suddenly obsolete?

@Gravitys-NOT-a-force 3 жыл бұрын

@Chris, no, at f/0.95 you have almost no depth of field. Day or night, no other lens can pull one face out of a crowd like the Noctilux.

@davide88rn Жыл бұрын

Hi! I recently purchased a m10R. I found a lot of color noise in the dark parts of the pictures when shooting at around 6400 iso. Is it normal? My Fuji xpro3 doesn't show that even in the back screen

@tomsnowski1976 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the nice video. The most interesting thing about the r is the fact to have longer exposure times at high ISO values. So I would have another question: is it possible to disable the noise reduction after the exposure. This would also be a big advantage because after 2min exposure you wouldn't have to wait another 2 minutes. Thanks for an answer

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the nice comment. I don't think its possible to switch off long exposure noise reduction on M cameras. It is possible on the SL2 but not on the M10-R.

@tjmanou6422 3 жыл бұрын

In your opinion LR vs C1 which one reads M10-R files better please? Thank you very much

@scroy65 3 жыл бұрын

Math, now that you have tested both the M10M and M10R, do you have a preference between the two for your rangefinder shooting?

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Good question, but these are really different cameras. If someone is a black & white shooter only, the M10M is perfect since the sensor is developed and optimized for B&W. If you need both, color and B&W then the M10-R is the natural choice because there are excellent apps for converting color into B&W, like, e.g., Silver Efex from the Google Nik Suite. And then you have the color option if you need it.

@TheLDunn1 3 жыл бұрын

So, how does the low light performance of the M10R compare to the standard M10? To put it another way, If ~24mp is sufficient for most folk, then is there still an argument for going M10R on the grounds of its low light capability being much better?

@erikdewilde7404 3 жыл бұрын

I have the M6 that is fine for me I dont need more

@Sams911 4 жыл бұрын

Is the M-50 Noctilux technologically advanced enough for this camera? Meaning, is the new 40MP sensor too accurate and thus shows flows in the Noctilux rendition?

@byronnip6198 4 жыл бұрын

Hi SJ, based on my experience with M10-R+Noctilux 50 ASPH, I think the Noctilux definitely takes advantage of the new sensor when I compare it on a M9-P.

@leonleon8619 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Math, first of all congratulations on your reviews. I wanted to ask you 1. for image quality which of the three is the best m10r, sl2 or q2? 2. don't you find it a limitation on the m10r to have only 1/4000? thank you.

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Leon, let's group them in the following way: the Q2 and SL2 have give or take the same sensor, I do not see any differences here and the SL2 clearly followed the Q2 when it comes to their sensors. The M10-R is the newest sensor so very likely a tiny little bit better since any camera manufacturerer learns from past developments and the M10-R sensor is the newest so has likely incorporated all lessons learned from previous Leica sensors. The M10-R also has a little less resolution but still plenty with 40MP and will therefore very likely have a little less noise when shooting with higher ISO values. I am also sure the M10-R benefitted in the sensor development from the development of the M10 Mono sensor research since the M10-R sensor likely is an M10 Mono sensor with a color filter array on top. To your second question: light needs to be very bright outside if you need 1/4000sec shutter speed. Having said that, on a sunny day that can happen. Stopping down aperture a bit will help or using one of Leicas excellent ND filters. In practical shooting situations, 1/4000sec is fast enough almost anytime but I experienced very few situation where the limitation to 1/4000sec imposed restrictions on aperture, could then not fully open to f/1.4 or therelike.

@leonleon8619 3 жыл бұрын

mathphotographer Thank you for your time and for the professionalism of the answers. Have a good week. Luca

@benedictus111 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Math. I am Benny from Perth Australia. Always enjoy your review. What is the function of the button in front of the camera? Appreciate your help.

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Long exposures. Best wishes to Perth!

@benedictus111 3 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer thank you. 🙏🙏

@sundeane3970 4 жыл бұрын

Very good testing, and how about the performance of high iso on m10 monochrom?

@petermendelson5839 4 жыл бұрын

Sun Deane Reid Reviews compared them and the M10 Mono is very noticeably better at high ISO.

@chowow.211 4 жыл бұрын

I do wish it comes with one that's doesn't have the logo

@B5J2P 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. Do you offer private online instruction for rangefinder focusing? Thank You.

@B5J2P 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Math! I’m sure you get several requests, but i am looking for online private instruction getting the most out of the M10-R with the 50mm APO and would love your help if that is something that you do. Thank You!

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, very kind of you to ask, but I am not yet available since my schedule is very tight. If I will consider to do private instructions in the future, lets get in touch.

@j.p.7708 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for helping to drain my bank account.🤦‍♂️🇨🇦

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Soooorrrrryyyy :)

@Funktrainer 3 жыл бұрын

ISO 1600 is usable on the M10-R but still shows plenty of grain. From ISO 3200 upwards the images fall apart. There is not much difference to the M240 in high ISO performance. Nevertheless the dynamic range and resolution are amazing, especially old lenses will benefit from the resolution.

@tOnmey 3 жыл бұрын

The entire video is misleading, with 4s or 8s of exposure time, most if not all of the cameras can see in the dark. Comparing m10-r with a7s instead of a7s iii in 2020?

@mathphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion to compare a Sony and Leica side-by-side. I have the A7RIV and could run the test, will consider.

@blazeboy777 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what m10 can do compared to m10r :D how much worse it is :D

@fjalls 4 жыл бұрын

I dont know but the newest leicas are not as beautiful as the older digitals or the analog versions, except Leica M5 of course haha

@williaminbody205 4 жыл бұрын

Leica exclusive sensors are superior to Sony designs, always have been.

@mariogpx2990 4 жыл бұрын

I’m a Leica Fan but that’s not true.

@williaminbody205 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, powerjazz and military sensor designer in Californians is far superior to any consumer grade sensors manufacturers by Sony. The foundry is newer and designed specially for Leica sensor products, these sensors have been ten years in development and it’s payed off brilliantly.