The new MOST FORGIVING DRIVERS in golf! (Qi10 MAX vs G430 MAX 10K)

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Peter Finch Golf

Peter Finch Golf

5 ай бұрын

I put the two most forgiving drivers in golf (TaylorMade Qi10 MAX vs PING G430 MAX 10K) through their paces.
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@ryanaspinall8128
@ryanaspinall8128 5 ай бұрын
Pete your ai smoke video and this one have been absolutely brilliant ! The best you’ve done. The callaway one in particular. Clear team effort with incredible graphics, great delivery and the style has changed and you’ve nailed it in my opinion. Keep up the fantastic work guys!
@BryanBrosGolf
@BryanBrosGolf 5 ай бұрын
Well done!! I watched entire vid 🙌🏻
@philipcarson6768
@philipcarson6768 5 ай бұрын
this could be the best golf vid I've looked at on you tube. Your usual approachable professional presentation with some lovely underlying humour with great production values. Keep it up Peter - very good!!
@bluetoughguy
@bluetoughguy 5 ай бұрын
What an interesting head to head!!! Thanks for doing that Pete! I can't believe how much further the Ping goes as that's not normal with a ping driver from what I have seen in the past.
@jasonholder117
@jasonholder117 5 ай бұрын
Now we are going to need to see a 430 10k vs G400 Max head to head
@starwf07
@starwf07 5 ай бұрын
As a gamer of the G400 Max, this video was a bit of a punch to the gut to know that the driver I routinely hit into the trees is already in this 10k MOI category. Think I'll go cry a bit now...
@aliasErEf
@aliasErEf 5 ай бұрын
I’m still playing G400 Max + reg Ping reduced shaft by 1/2 inch and it’s still my favorite…no new data to switch for a new driver + nearly 900$ CDA kept in my pockets.
@jcjbike
@jcjbike 5 ай бұрын
I'm still using my G400 max driver and that's after trying the 430.
@MXJEFF94
@MXJEFF94 5 ай бұрын
No one wants to see a 7 year old driver compared to new ones.
@jameslaughter5183
@jameslaughter5183 5 ай бұрын
@@MXJEFF94 I bet @starf07 does.
@hanleyagolf
@hanleyagolf 5 ай бұрын
Best review I've seen probably ever?! Magnificent mate. Loved it
@scootification
@scootification 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video from you and your talented design team on explaining all the different golf games that can be played out on the course!
@Deacz157
@Deacz157 5 ай бұрын
Love the new videos! Look so good!! I was saying to my mate that it reminded me of the 400 max (which I have and love)
@KumaM
@KumaM 5 ай бұрын
Great review. Very informative - love the stats presentation
@jessiecollier4366
@jessiecollier4366 5 ай бұрын
Good video team! Loved the graphics with the comparison at the end.
@shannonsanders5250
@shannonsanders5250 5 ай бұрын
Great cinema work , I liked the picture book analogy. You guys are making a boring review witty and interesting. Way better than other channels
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
@PNW_Sportbike_Life 5 ай бұрын
I am a ping guy; probably always will be. Just upgraded to g430 D and woods, i230s last year. I doubt I’ll pull the trigger on a new driver. Great testing Pete; you crushed that 10k!
@cstowell4404
@cstowell4404 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison great overview
@ivorhughes0307
@ivorhughes0307 5 ай бұрын
Interesting info on the g400 Max. Just gamed this for 2024 at 9deg and x stiff . Never had a ball flight and consistently fly - it’s a monster for £190 , very happy 😅
@jamesprice4640
@jamesprice4640 5 ай бұрын
Great video mate, I enjoyed that
@sjuranda9466
@sjuranda9466 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Liked that you got the team to test the Taylor made. Would be interesting though to see the resultat the team got with both drivers? Did a more average golfer also gain massiv with the ping?
@user-cv3rl8zc9x
@user-cv3rl8zc9x 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting video. Love these driver reviews, better get saving!!
@dangwillz
@dangwillz 5 ай бұрын
These new styles of reviews are really cool Would be cool to see you fit your team into the new line up of drivers
@tlriker
@tlriker 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video production!
@kevinmontgomery1054
@kevinmontgomery1054 5 ай бұрын
Love the comparison. Best review I've seen.
@LilyOloumi
@LilyOloumi 5 ай бұрын
Great review Pete!
@Average_Dan
@Average_Dan 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see how the team of varying handicaps and swings speeds hit these drivers and the outcome!
@adz5OOO
@adz5OOO 5 ай бұрын
Data and dispersion head to head would be great to see.
@user-mu8zl8ko4v
@user-mu8zl8ko4v 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!
@Mid_Golfer_Jeff
@Mid_Golfer_Jeff 4 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more… I have started a channel that will do this exact thing high handicap golfers trying out todays newest and hottest equipment just to see how good it is for average joes .
@HD-bq8pw
@HD-bq8pw 4 ай бұрын
​@Mid_Golfer_Jeff yup, many of us can't relate to 400+ yard drives I see on some channels
@robinroth7175
@robinroth7175 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting stuff Pete. I am most likely buying a new driver this year and even before this video Ping has been high on my list. I do like the look of the new taylormade and when I go for a fitting a probably sneak in a hit or two with it as well.
@markrobertson84
@markrobertson84 5 ай бұрын
Great video Pete 👍🏻
@paulbrown400
@paulbrown400 4 ай бұрын
So, love the videos..intro is really good..was watching out after hearing a recent podcast. Not loving the abrupt end to the videos though. A little outro would be nice!
@stevenvandenbroeck8920
@stevenvandenbroeck8920 5 ай бұрын
Great review loved seeing these two head to head! Ping should scrap the rest of the line up and just do that 10k one that seems to be the best of both worlds, drop the price a bit and they would clean up
@markmark5488
@markmark5488 5 ай бұрын
Great review. I won't be rushing out to replace my beautiful TSR3 any time soon though - I only bought it in September! Sorry to be pedantic, but the MOI units here are g.cm2, i.e. grams x square centimetre, NOT grams per centimetre squared. As you say, the higher the MOI, the more resistant the clubhead is to twisting, all other things being equal, e.g. location of the C of G.
@robholland290
@robholland290 5 ай бұрын
I’ve got to say the production quality of this video was right up there with some of the best content on KZfaq. Keep it up Pete and team. For me this is the most under appreciated golf KZfaq channel at the moment. Superb
@pbannist
@pbannist 5 ай бұрын
Yeah love the moi graphics 😅
@robholland290
@robholland290 5 ай бұрын
@@pbannist hahahaha
@mikewainwright_
@mikewainwright_ 5 ай бұрын
Upping your game for 2024 - strong start mate! Love how you've taken a different approach to Rick and others. Keep it up annd subscribers will flock to your channel
@matthewrivera7413
@matthewrivera7413 5 ай бұрын
Great review!
@slicingit5742
@slicingit5742 5 ай бұрын
I love this “top gear” feeling intro with dramatic music. Keep it up.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@alanrutland4424
@alanrutland4424 5 ай бұрын
Great review Peter. You and your team really do a great job in presentation. So the Ping. Thought you also like the AI smoke. Will wait for next year and see if price comes down.
@TD-qi2rw
@TD-qi2rw 5 ай бұрын
I have a G400 max !!!!!! In full transparency when my game needs help I play the K15 which is my all time favorite. Thanks Pete !!! I'm a Ping driver guy !!!!!
@lol-cn2xi
@lol-cn2xi 5 ай бұрын
really well made video!!
@coreyjohnson7393
@coreyjohnson7393 5 ай бұрын
Pete has been the ABSOLUTE BEST reviewer - fantastic production and details!!! Keep it up!
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video!! Best coverage on Qi10 Max and G430 Max 10k!!
@jg__golf
@jg__golf 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff Pete, I'm.not usually a tm fan but that blue is a beaut 👌
@dominicjones3755
@dominicjones3755 5 ай бұрын
Firmly believe that your club review videos are the best on KZfaq 👌👏👏
@RabatzNow
@RabatzNow 5 ай бұрын
Great video!
@todayforlunch3888
@todayforlunch3888 5 ай бұрын
@peter Would you go with the g430 max or the new g430 10k and why?
@Adamm0896
@Adamm0896 5 ай бұрын
Bought my Qi10 Max today, absolutely cannot wait to use it!
@GOLFADDICT65
@GOLFADDICT65 5 ай бұрын
great review Peter I think this years Driver lineup is gonna very competitive across the board will be tough to choose which brand to go with just wish the prices were not so outlandish 800-900 canadian for a driver is getting pretty steep cheers all from Vulcan Canada
@lokidecat
@lokidecat 5 ай бұрын
Qi in chinese is pronounced 'Chee'. 10 is 'Ten' .. so this driver is.. Cheatin?
@pixelqb1801
@pixelqb1801 5 ай бұрын
That is the name 😂
@CoenWelsh
@CoenWelsh 5 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@mitchh6
@mitchh6 5 ай бұрын
10 of 10 my friend
@leospaceman2976
@leospaceman2976 5 ай бұрын
TM been Qi10 their customers for years
@TySkinner
@TySkinner 5 ай бұрын
Lol I thought the same thing
@oliveiratheking2354
@oliveiratheking2354 5 ай бұрын
Awesome review
@adamw9764
@adamw9764 5 ай бұрын
That Ping drive DEF looks good based on performance, curious to take a few swings with it
@robinkitchin
@robinkitchin 5 ай бұрын
Great review. I assume not a lot of space in the studio, but personally I'd add some diffusion to your lighting, or bounce it off the wall, as it's a bit harsh with distracting shadows at times...though obviously personal opinion! Love the channel.
@nicholasphi6616
@nicholasphi6616 5 ай бұрын
No Pete, you are absolutely correct about ping drivers being heavy. Put it on a scale vs Taylormade Qi10 and you’ll probably see a 10 gram delta. That’s why a lot of their stock shafts come counterbalanced
@PJTBMRGAC
@PJTBMRGAC 5 ай бұрын
Glad you made the comment about the Ping feeling heavy. My G425 feels like a sledgehammer compared to swinging my friends' TaylorMade Stealth & Sim
@brianlowry2274
@brianlowry2274 5 ай бұрын
I changed to a lighter back weight on my G430 .. totally transformed the driver and swinging it faster 👍
@rickcomfort2395
@rickcomfort2395 5 ай бұрын
I'm a Ping guy but put great stock in your reviews. Thanks Pete
@ooojonooo
@ooojonooo 5 ай бұрын
Peter delivering what we are most curious about! Awesome comparison!
@johnobrien5011
@johnobrien5011 5 ай бұрын
Hi Peter , the videos are great and keep up the good work. I have two questions for you, 1. What app are you using on you phone for shot tracing? I have been trying to get a good one for my iPhone 14 Pro. 2. I think you should try the new Seed golf balls, I live in the west of Ireland with the best links golf. You really should come here to play. And use Seed balls more.
@tanishqnobeen2987
@tanishqnobeen2987 5 ай бұрын
Hi Pete hope you are doing well. Pete I just have a question last year I bought the new stealth 2 plus driver but after few months in tournament the toe of the face started to come off by 5mm and I was hitting very bad shots. So now I bought the same driver to replace but I know in the future this problem will happen again. So do you think it’s ideal to buy the new Qi10 driver?
@Craftehh
@Craftehh 5 ай бұрын
Its interesting to see the difference in people and testing. Rick's tests showed the calaway to be miles better, pete co.paring against ping. Be interesting to see what's the most forgiving out of all. Goes to show how much is personal preference and to test yourself.
@gerrymcintosh4477
@gerrymcintosh4477 3 ай бұрын
Nice review and really enjoyed the video. I think I will buy the Ping driver. I use their irons and their old driver, so I think I will stick to Ping. 👍
@blue_mountains28
@blue_mountains28 5 ай бұрын
Ah!! im still rocking a G400 Max, thanks for renewing my interest in my own club ☺
@roberttaylor1801
@roberttaylor1801 5 ай бұрын
I play TM clubs, Driver and irons well mainly the Lob Wedge is a Mack Daddy 4. But to be honest i prefer the Ping in your test. The best of both worlds springs to mind. Forgiveness without high rpm, which in the Uk this time of year would see a lot of ballooning flights.
@kevinarbogast9309
@kevinarbogast9309 5 ай бұрын
You’re a stud muffin for putting these head to head on opening day! Stud muffin!!!
@MichaelBacon-mi4ls
@MichaelBacon-mi4ls 5 ай бұрын
Do a driver review for us older slower swing speed players (90-95mph)! Someone that truly hits it on the toe and heel. Now that would be a driver comparison review that I would really like to see!
@so-xm3gc
@so-xm3gc 5 ай бұрын
100% agree - whilst someone of Pete's capability is excellent to see and understand subtle differences, would love to also see one of the guys (mid to higher handicapper) giving some feedback
@JTWno1
@JTWno1 5 ай бұрын
I need that ping 😮. Great content
@chadfarmer1556
@chadfarmer1556 5 ай бұрын
I love all the Ping G400 through the G430. I’ve used all of them. I’m now using the G430 and it’s the best club I’ve hit. My irons are the Titleist T200. So I’m just saying I’m not just one clubs brand. I use what ever works best for me.
@InwonKim1982
@InwonKim1982 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. Now it is time to compare Ping MAX 10K vs G430 Max.
@johnhoie1
@johnhoie1 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. I have a Ping G400 Max. When I got fitted at Cool Clubs 18 months ago, they reshafted it, but thought it would be better for me to use that head versus buying an all-new club. I can still hook and slice it. Maybe I need to wait for 20,000 MOI.
@JC-KeepSmiling
@JC-KeepSmiling 5 ай бұрын
Best Reviewer of golf clubs on KZfaq. Period! Good luck getting to 600k subscribers.
@wmbishop22
@wmbishop22 4 ай бұрын
Would love to see you compare the G400 Max versus the G430 Max 10K!!!
@alexislignereux1722
@alexislignereux1722 5 ай бұрын
Great review again.
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that
@dannyearls4445
@dannyearls4445 5 ай бұрын
Proper gadget show vibes. Love it
@jeffbarnes5822
@jeffbarnes5822 5 ай бұрын
Good video!
@rockerdude
@rockerdude 5 ай бұрын
Damn I currently have the g430 max and it’s been good for fairways but it doesn’t excite me like the stealth did but staying in play was more important. I wonder if the Qi10 will be that sweet spot for me of fun but forgiving. Still waiting on that cobra dark speed in a couple days
@rooikatpommie8338
@rooikatpommie8338 5 ай бұрын
Just a quick glance at the numbers between your Callaway review and this review, Ping seems to match the numbers of the new Callaway and is really close to the Callaway Paradym, so for last years money and as much as makes no difference in performance, go for last years Paradym kind of seems to be the result. Possibly a little more dispersion on the old one but my swing creates far more dispersion than the club cannot deal with it anyway. There is so much hype around the Ping but your own numbers seem to somewhat quell that excitement. The real test should be in the hands of the buyers of these clubs, the weekend (or for the retired - midweek) golfers to see what the advantages would be. The percentage improvements would to this untrained eye seem negligible. No doubt there will be plenty purchased with the amount of hype, especially in the KZfaq community. I must add, very entertaining videos Peter, great work by you and the team. Who needs TV. Maybe saving on a TV licence will let me afford a new driver every year.
@artokiiskinen1058
@artokiiskinen1058 4 ай бұрын
I went for a driver fitting yesterday, and the Qi10Max worked well for me. I struggle with low spin, low launch and occasional snap hook on driver, and my usual driver clubhead speed is around 95mph. The Qi10Max worked best for me at 12 degree head at standard loft, and a stiff 50g shaft. Consistent shots at 235 yds carry, 255 yds total at a Trackman. I would be very happy with these numbers on the course. The spin average was at 2250. I did not have time to test delofting the club to 11.25 degree, it could have worked even better. I tried the ping, Cobra darkspeed, as options Multiple stiff and regular shaft options. The others did not work as well and as consistently.
@robertlozano6546
@robertlozano6546 2 ай бұрын
Which 50g shaft was that then? Thx.
@jameslaughter5183
@jameslaughter5183 5 ай бұрын
Best Review Ever !!!; concise, informative, compelling and the background video welcoming the Qi10 Max was uplifting. Unfortunately for Taylormade, The Ping Engineers, like a True Elephant, stomped them and left them red faced, 20 yards behind.
@lazerpug4416
@lazerpug4416 5 ай бұрын
Uplifting lol its a golf club
@jameslaughter5183
@jameslaughter5183 5 ай бұрын
@@lazerpug4416 Is English still taught in "lol" schools?
@lazerpug4416
@lazerpug4416 5 ай бұрын
@jameslaughter5183 Sensible comments are obviously not
@SteveFromStockport
@SteveFromStockport 5 ай бұрын
Good review, Pete. Thing is though, the Max version isn't aimed at players like you! Hopefully, you'll review the standard and LS versions this week too?
@ariesclaw8623
@ariesclaw8623 5 ай бұрын
Wow - fantastic review as ever. I really want the 430 10k, just that pesky £600 price tag…
@steisdre
@steisdre 5 ай бұрын
That Ping must be going in the bag....we'd love to see some super low rounds and a great run on QFTO....can't say I'd be bothered what club you're swinging just as long as you kill it :)
@lemongitis
@lemongitis 5 ай бұрын
Will we see you test/review the PXG 0311 Black Ops? I remember a short while where you had a PXG Gen5 in the bag. Hearing great things about the Black Ops
@karlweber470
@karlweber470 5 ай бұрын
I got curious and went back to your old driver videos. You were hitting pretty much all of the old drivers further than these and the Qi10. the 10 was actually much shorter than any of the other drivers from 2 years ago. You hit the Mizuno STG 333 yards.
@chobone
@chobone 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what ends up in your bag this year!
@SJgolf891
@SJgolf891 5 ай бұрын
Is there any information out there that lists MOI values for recent drivers?
@markward857
@markward857 5 ай бұрын
I’m part of the 10k club as per instagram comment happy to give my forwarding address for the QI10 max can only dream of owning one keep up the good work love the videos
@Oranglama96
@Oranglama96 5 ай бұрын
What should i buy for my new driver Stealh2 or qi10?
@filler118
@filler118 5 ай бұрын
The 4:55 color transaction was sleek! Nice
@danhorchover
@danhorchover 5 ай бұрын
Interesting findings Pete, but could you optimise the setup of the QI10 for spin rates, so that we can get a clearer comparison, please? If you're spending £500 on a driver, I feel like you'd get it fit so that you get a consistent ~2000RPM of spin.
@26japrey
@26japrey 3 ай бұрын
I just bought the Qi10 max and it’s a beast. Ultra forgiving and long. Nicest driver I’ve hit. Tested the 430 max as well. Also a great feeling driver. It was a tough choice between the two but the Taylormade won out on feel alone. It’s so smooth
@ba88y
@ba88y 4 ай бұрын
This video is top notch
@swankthegoat1407
@swankthegoat1407 5 ай бұрын
I love the intro on this... HAHAHA
@dlenny3369
@dlenny3369 5 ай бұрын
Can you do g400 v g430 review?
@ZaxDrumsandGolf
@ZaxDrumsandGolf 5 ай бұрын
Might have to compare the Ping to the QI10 Standard I think that might come closer. I have seen some videos I think that might be the best one of the three for normal players!!
@mattyjay8896
@mattyjay8896 5 ай бұрын
Pete is definitely the GOAT whenever it comes to reviews!🔥
@peterfinchgolf
@peterfinchgolf 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@mattyjay8896
@mattyjay8896 5 ай бұрын
@@peterfinchgolf Absolutely brother!👊
@petekenny3774
@petekenny3774 5 ай бұрын
Peter...this is a direct lift from ping website about the g425 ... the MAX, total MOI pushes a record 10,000, largely due to a 26-gram tungsten movable weight that shifts the CG lower and farther back and can be secured in the Neutral, Draw or Fade setting. 👀👀👀🤷🤷🤷
@ryanchannel8485
@ryanchannel8485 5 ай бұрын
I swing around 95ish MPH and hit good drives off the tee, and I also tried both of these clubs and can’t decide which is better, what do you think would be the better driver for me? Im looking for feel and distance please let me know
@Jackwhumate
@Jackwhumate 2 ай бұрын
Peter, great video but one thing i will ask, could you do a review with a standard shaft and grip? Because looks like you have custom shaft and bigger grip on these clubs so its not a true review for us normal players. I may be completely wrong as what your using are normal custom store shafts/grips but they look custom. Thanks.
@neilshayler3119
@neilshayler3119 5 ай бұрын
I wasn't a fan of the stealth either version, the Ping drivers are forgiving and also hold value on resale but I couldn't get any more from the G430 max than I get from the G425 max so ill stick at present and at £500+ its a bit steep
@AlexLeff
@AlexLeff 5 ай бұрын
I just wanna say that I'm 20 seconds into the video and these drums are WORKING for me, lol.
@stephendibari5010
@stephendibari5010 5 ай бұрын
The G430 Max 10k sits in-between the G460 Max and the LST in the Ping line-up. If i didn't recently (Sept. 2023) get custom fit for TSR3 i would def. give the G430 Max 10k and the AI Smoke a shot.
@n0les443
@n0les443 5 ай бұрын
Another thing to consider I saw the Taylor Made is 100 less in price. That could sway people too. Both of these drivers seemed to have nailed it this year though. Great review as always Pete!
@so-xm3gc
@so-xm3gc 5 ай бұрын
issue with TaylorMade is you know they'll be bringing out an 'improved' version next year.....so is it worth waiting..?
@n0les443
@n0les443 5 ай бұрын
@@so-xm3gc very true. Seems like they always get it right on the second go round.
@nickwatson6723
@nickwatson6723 5 ай бұрын
Had to double check what video I clicked on for a second. That intro gave me Top Gear Jeremy Clarkson vibes haha
@DaveFogel
@DaveFogel 5 ай бұрын
What was the 425MAX MOI? Just curious....
@scottswanson5964
@scottswanson5964 5 ай бұрын
LS with velcore blue s please. Looks good.
@TheJNB93
@TheJNB93 5 ай бұрын
That ping driver looks amazing!
@goth_ross
@goth_ross 5 ай бұрын
Did you guys do those glowing product shots? TM owes you boys money.
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