PSA: If you get a god roll with Hard Launch and Implosion Rounds, DON'T DELETE IT. This roll will actually deal slightly more damage than a Spike Grenades + Hard Launch (Hard Launch is the best perk). Pretty much, you just want your blast radius as low as possible with or without Spike Grenades. Happy farming!

That clip of the tormentor walking off the ledge killed me😂

From this video, we all learnt that Tormentors cannot swim.

8:16 I love it when tormentors take a swim, they become so chill after a dip

Dont sleep on impulse it reloads really fast for dps situations and the increase in speed makes it feel almost hitscan at some distances

overflow would be the go to in a diffrent sandbox.. one that actually drops ammo bricks

okay so no one is talking about impulse amplifier for general PVE play, I personally think its amazing for that massively increased velocity especially if it has hard launch and max velocity on top of that, but also impulse amplifier gives you double reload bonuses with +20 reload and 0.85x grenade launcher reload animation speed so it basically gives you near lunafaction level reload speed with just base reload stats. I think it's absolutely amazing for general play

Guys don't sleep on impulse amplifier, it is lowkey really good. It increases velocity by 35%, and +20 reload on top of it.

Don’t sleep on impulse! Not only does it give +20 more reload and 35% more velocity, it also has a flat 0.85x reload animation multiplier which makes it reload crazy fast

I got a Ambition Assassin with Recombo roll and LOVE it. The double shot is so cool and great for add clearing and that 1 extra damage shot is dummy good.

First mountaindrop drop was quick launch/spike/overflow/recom and to say ive been loving it is an understatement

ik it's an icon but i didn't know why everyone was so hyped in the first place when auto-reload was the main thing that made mountaintop really good for pve

I might be going for that "fire and forget" auto-loading and recombination roll

I just wanna say thanks for the fun informative videos you make. It takes me so many hours to punch the numbers to figure this stuff out

I've personally found a mountain top with auto loading and recombination to be pretty good with dragons breath in onslaught, you shoot a rocket at a high traffic area and you could get a few recombination shots off because how many ads DB kills and how fast it does so. It's also pretty good in the boss fights since you can stick a rocket to the boss, and get more recombination stacks whenever ads get close to the boss (which is almost always)

as someone who loved rocket jumping videos from the halo three days. I love that you can do that with the mountain top. what a throw back perk from bungie

Impulse Amplifier/Frenzy is kinda fun with how fast it reloads. Recombination is also really good for nuking those pesky yellow bar ads in Onslaught

omg i was paying so much attention to recombination and how to use it and by god 8:16 came out of nowhere and almost KILLED ME LMAAO

I'm really glad the video touched on perks speed runners use . I learned alot watching people like Aegis Relic and even though I don't speedrun being a little more optimal just helps the game play easier for me. Part of what makes this channel interesting is it's ability to bring niche perspectives onto mainstream. W video.

I got mine with impulse and vorpal. I like the roll for my playstyle, does good target chunking, and has that +20 mobility to round out my hunter stats. I’m loving it so far

My first run this week I got sticky nades and spike nades, auto loading and overflow, and vorpal and harmony! Harmony is slept on especially with auto loading

Got one with autoloading recomb. Using volatile + lemon for secondary allows me to build up recomb stacks easily. Once i see a tanky target, i shoot my load and deal MASSSIVE damage.

I don't have the roll yet, but i think one you overlooked is demo/frenzy. You have frenzy giving you extra damage against all targets plus a reload boost. Demo gives you grenade which should stack with the origin trait, and it will only get better once we can enhance it. It should overall be a nice add clear and single target damage roll to look out for.

Auto and recombination are pretty solid. Got that with a velocity MW and it’s shiny. Big W

The best thing about recombination is that it will give you the damage no matter how long you wait how far away from enemies or how small a group you kill it's going to be a damage buff

i got an ambitous assassin recombination roll with spike nades and have had a blast using it will be in my loadout forever its so fun

got my autoloading/recombination roll yesterday, havent put it down since, with sunshot its literally perfect!

dont underestimate impulse amplifier, it also gives bonus reload to gls. Makes it great if you're using it with frenzy as your main damage weapon if you're using dragons breath for example.

got the spike nades + ALH + recombination roll yesterday and i love it !!!!!!!

5:28 ambitious + frenzy for the crazy fast reload and 2 shot mag is the roll I’m gunning for.

Made a Rocketjump build yesterday with the mountaintop. Polaris lance 100 mobility wings of sac dawn. Was super bored but the build fixed that

Been loving my ARH + Recomb roll. Does a shit ton of damage at any ranges. A good replacement for my Heritage, which had Reconstruct + Recomb

Got a Overflow, Recombination with Spike Grenades that I have been enjoying. Excited to enchance it.

my first natural drop was spike nades + demo and recomb, and i've been loving it, but im going for the shiny

I just use auto loading with harmony and a sunshot/graviton lance depending on build. We ran through level 50 legend and it worked great

Auto loading holster and harmony is an insane combination. With how many ads are present in every single game mode, it's not a hard perk to proc. So you can maintain the 20% damage buff permanently.

For the dps test you should try auto loading vorpal MT, auto loading vorpal wilderflight with apex/edge transit. I feel like the dps rotation would go so hard

I would love to see a dmg comparison with other special weapons, like snipers, shotguns and fusions. Using mountaintop with anarchy, an Impulse amplifier+ dmg roll would come handy, because of the fast reload.

So glad its back. The ease of use and fun of it will keep it in my kinetic slot for everything.

First one I got was Impulse amplifier, recombination. I’ve never used recombination and I was throughly impressed. Almost one shot an unstoppable in Onslaught

I managed to snag a shiny with Ambitious/one for all. I love the easy damage proc from shooting a group then immediately having two in the chamber. My only problem with recombination is that you have to stow the weapon to build up the perk when you could just be shooting more grenades.

Impulse and Frenzy is awesome. You fire like a machine gun. Quite a good roll that you could check out Cross

Got my recombination auto loading with spike nades and its incredible paired with sunshot

I quite enjoy my Imulse amplifier roll for the neutral reload speed, makes it quite spamable. Paired with Frenzy/Vorpal/Recom it's quite nice.

What if weapons played into our class abilities? Like you said, some weapons reload behind a barricade when you stay there for 3/4 seconds. Or weapons in a warlock rift heal allies in (5/10 meters) for a chunck of dmg or ability energy. And when hunters dodge they drop a (elemental pickup) for allies and themselves with certain weapons equipped. Like titans would get autos. Smgs. Shotguns Warlocks wiuld get.pulses/scputs and snipers or trace rifles And hunters get fusions. Swords/meelee hand cannons and sidearms?

We gonna ignore the tormentor lmao

My ideal roll (in a perfect scenario) Autoloading AND Ambitious And Vorpal AND Recombination With sticky and spike grenades with hard launch.

8:16 lmao

Auto reload plus recombination has felt really good with my sunshot warlock

Auto and vorpal is great paired with dragons breath for rotation since they both auto load and do crazy damage. Ambitious and recom is great for quickly deleting champions got both n that’s how I use them.

mine hits like an absolute unit, favorite weapon even over most primaries. feels exotic even. impulse and vorpal on mine

having a shoot-to-loot energy weapon during a dps phase with enhanced overflow and frenzy or vorpal is gonna be a fun dps swap

8:16 I LOOOOVE when the tormentors go off the map 😂

I'd also like to point out demolitionist on mountaintop, sucession, and theoretically new forbearance will give you about a third of your grenade back on a kill. Ive been running contraverse vortex's to suck everything in and weaken then mountaintop the pile to get it back

i got one with auto loading Vorpal, and yes, vorpal is def not the best in 4th slot but it is still very nice to be able to consistently swap to it and just fire a shot off at a major enemy. I think for most content AL/Ambitious Frenzy is going to be my go-to playstyle wise. If you are a super energy primary heavy kit then recomb is probably fine, but for boss damage its gonna be lacking (overall damage-wise) after the 3rd shot in your rotation.

This has been my favorite weapon from the brave arsenal as all other weapons already have a better variant except for the heavy GL. You want to zoom before shooting and with a little practice you'll get the hang of it. My roll is auto-loading recombination.

I’m going to go for an ALH and Recombination roll because I really want it for rocket jumps and the recombination is a nice perk to go along with my ikelos smg

Fast question, Will us be able to enhance THE normal into the light weapons? Or ONLY the shiny ones? Cuz i got a god roll but its not shine with 4 perks and someone told me u can’t enhance this ver.

I got a spike/auto load/frenzy today, and its pretty nutty with a bait n switch/reconstruction apex predator

With double perks, you can do recomb with vorpal for gud swap dps. impulse/al + recomb/vorpal is gr for pve and pvp imo. (unless something pvp tech is found out)

Got auto loading rebomb on a shiny MT yesterday with spike and hard launch, but a handling masterwork.

I’ve been LOVING the auto loading, recombination roll

im hoping to get a shiny mountaintop with auto loading and recombination ofc, but also lead from gold as the 2nd perk, so if i really have no ammo but theres some heavy, i can just switch to lead from gold, pick up the ammo and switch back to auto loading when i need it, pretty handy, idc about the 4th colum perks, anything other than recombination is nothing in comparison lol

Old man playing Destiny question. Last night I got my first shinny MT drop, I was excited until I looked at it; hard launch & counter mass, Implosion and sicky, impulse and ambitious assassin, Vorpal and all for one. I was hurt, none of that seemed to line up. Now, today I'm seeing that it might not be as bad as I thought? What say you all? I'd like to add, when that shinny dripped it was the first time in a very long time I was excited about a drop.

I feel like it might be good with an amplifier/bait and switch when running with dragons breath. Fire off a DB shot, clink for a sec with your energy, then just unload as much as you can until your DB's back up, rinse and repeat.

Got my auto-loading recombination roll the same day I got my Heal Clip Incandescent Luna's Howl.

I mean I think, a build with mountaintop sticky nades + trip mine grenades + proximity knife + bombadiers or calibans hand could be spicy, bait some to come around a corner to 2 sticky nades, and a trip mine not including the knife and dodge bomb if you choose to go either exotic.

Got a 4/5 roll, but got smart drift and implosion rounds, along with a velocity masterwork, so is this just as good as hard launch/implosion rounds? If not, how much damage am I missing out on?

Radiant dance machines and mountaintop on void hunter. Put on special finisher, reaper and go invis on dodge. ❤

Does the reduced blast radius increase its single target potency at the cost of its add clear potency? Or is there no noticeable fall off as far as activating perks like one for all?

got a shiny with ambitious assassin and recomb and im lovin it

I want mountain top for bait and switch with autoloqfing and vorpal and mountain top for over all with overflow and recombination Plus the less blast radius you get the more damage you do

Mountaintop being a kinetic slot means it's really competing with lingering dread, wither hoard, or even the new strand wave frame because I almost always run energy primaries and special kinetics. I want an autoloading role mainly but would definitely take ambitious. I do love lingering dread though with auto and chill clip.

Honestly having an infinite combo for ability kills with Mountaintop with the prismatic subclass sounds like the best combo. You get recombination for higher burst damage on a single target for mopping up the room of adds with infinite combos. You could run Parasite for another burst damage single target. Both of these are benefited by Kinetic damage boosts and will build the meter for another burst of damage that scales with add density. And then super can be used for a 4th damage burst while still mopping up adds. You do notably have to hold parasite to build the kills with abilities otherwise they do not count normally and this makes keeping track of mountaintop recombination easier. Every ten kills you swap to Mountaintop and shoot something before going back to your normal combo rotation with parasite. Then at 20 drop parasite bomb and a Mountaintop recombination shot.

Gonna go with autoloading+ recombination. While using recluse when I see a mini boss, MT will be a mini rocket launcher to clear the area.

So will all rolls w the BRAVE weapons be enhancable or just the shiny versions of them?

Got a shiny with overflow and vorpal/frenzy from a shaax engram, it slaps

Impulse amplifier and vorpal is my preferred pick.

I’d argue that harmony is also a very good perk for mountaintop when you pair with auto loading holster.

I know there are those saying mtop isn't going to be good in pvp but think about it, it is a special weapon bow that does near the same dmg as pre nerfed precision bows. This thing can become a hotswapping beast like it was during season of arrivals just without the oneshot kill but that doesn't matter, this thing is a primer and movement utility. I will be having my safety bunker ready for when the mtop swap meta returns because its not a matter of if, only when

an underrated perk ive noticed is impulse amp for mountaintop. I do still think ALH is the god roll but impulse feels very nice to use bc it gives +20 reload.

besides slickdraw and overflow everything on the third column in great

Actually implosion rounds is a slightly higher damage increase that spike grenades as long as you don't have a blast radius masterwork. You really want to look for hard launch, implosion OR spike, as they're very close, and any masterwork other than blast radius.

i got a hard launch, spike/sticky grenades, ambitious assassin and recombination roll, and im pretty happy with it honestly, i like having the big damage buff from recombination and then shooting a second time to finish a champion or beefy target

Impulse feels the best on this thing imo, it might just be my shiny roll with reload mw but it can hits scan at crazy distances & reloads like a dream, don’t sleep on impulse

That shiny succession is nuts!

I got lead 4 gold vopal so pretty good its like having unlimited special ammo

It really has to be paired with a good ad clearing primary or second special like a sun shot

Impulse amplifier is the best with vorpal or frenzy. Impulse make it instant and fast af reload with more damage because velocity= impact damage

Landed a shiny variant hard launch, spike, auto load, recombo roll and I don’t think I’ve ever been as lucky as getting that drop. Secondary perks are impulse and OFA

I got a shiny with alh or overflow and adrenaline junkie or harmony with spike grenades. Yay.

Recombination mountain top with sun shot has been my go to in onslaught

The best rolls I got so far for PVE is auto loading with vorpal, But I’ve been using impulse amplifier with recombination

Been trying to get the god roll for over a month. I just got it in a shiny version. Absolute banger of a roll. Hard Launch, Implosion Rounds Ambitious Assassin/Auto-Loading Holster - Vorpal Weapon/Recombination I'm so HAPPY

11:49 i understand the comparison here but i don't entirely like it, specifically because they're in different slots and there are a ton of cases where it'd probably be worth more to build into either your subclass or active modifiers rather then having slightly better add clear, especially if you're already rocking an energy weapon like sunshot, or gaviton lance, or even like zaoli's with exsplosive/incandescent, or ros argo with something like repulsor/destab, the argument is fair enough if you're using arc or a darkness subclass. but i think a fairer overall comparison is why not use it over tusk of the boar, yeah it had issues dropping when iron banner came around but after you got one you could focus it and i feel like i was getting enough engrams that it was actually easier to get a good roll of tusk then it is to get that specific mountain top roll, not to mention i feel like tusk just has a fair amount more synergistic perk combos then mountain top, primarily because it's not really trying to do 2 things in the same perk pool where as mountaintop feels like it's trying to do 4, and if you're concerned about enhancable perks tusk is also becoming enhancable. And if we wanna look past ease of access a little why use it over new pacific epitaph? Sure it's a little harder to get but i feel like the first encounter of ghosts is fairly reasonable to solo with a good build, and far as i know it has a better add clear perk pool as well, only edge mountaintop has over it for that purpose is it's guaranteed to be enhancable with TFS while we can't say with absolute certainty that NPE will, either way both of these i feel like are much more solid comparisons because they are in direct competition for the slot and they can also build into subclass verbs and stuff. And all this isn't to say mountaintop is bad, it's definitely gonna be a damn strong option for a different purpose, i just feel like it's comparing kinetic apples to energy oranges, and there are also probably a lot more kinetic add clear weapons i'm forgetting about but i tried to limit this to just GLs for the sake of having as close to a completely fair comparison as possible.

The other day i learned that Ambitious assassin doesn't cap the ammo at two. I was farming kills on shuro chi and ended up getting 3 in the mag because i killed a big group of thralls with one shot. Although it isn't easy to do without setup.

If you use mountain top for moving around maps I pvp on Sola warlock it's actually pretty good if you're into moving around quick and being harder to hit

I use mountain top in pvp just for movement capabilities with like strand hunter or solar warlock with Icarus dash. It only take a little bit of health away so for the most part I end up winning the gunfight when I get the jump on them

My favorite roll by far out of the many Ive tried is Ambitious Assasin and One for All. Cross talks about being able to do half of a champs health with Recombination in legend onslaught but using Mountaintop as a primary in onslaught basically always has Ambitious AND OfA procced. When a champ comes up. You have two shots loaded back to back for a champ that does far more damage than any sort of recombination shot and deletes several champs and majors back to back. You don’t have to worry about missing your recom shot and every enemy is getting hit with a 35% buffed GL shot which will reproc Ambitious and OfA AGAIN. It’s just so powerful.

Hello sir. Can you please make a theory crafting video on what two exotic combinations you think will be good? First that came to mind for me is Assassin's Cowl and Liars Handshake