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I kinda lost it when the Twi’lek guard left Elia unattended with the torture device. He made stormtroopers from the original films seem competent.

97% that Elia is working for Gideon. Her tactics were 100% pure entrapment (from a legal standpoint), I have a hard time believing the New Republic would've used such flimsy tactics.

I think the Imperial Remnant was concerned with how much does Dr. Pershing really know about secret bases and other resources...

“The flags may be different, but the methods are the same.” -Reznov

I feel bad for that guy who really wanted to do a second chance and try make the best of it in the New Republic. Only to get framed and brainwashed against his will.

Citizens of the galaxy: "You freed us!" The New Republic: "I wouldn't say freed, more like under new management"

I don't think Pershing's sessions with the droid are supposed to be an interrogation -- I think that's supposed to be "therapy." They really resembled sessions with a school counselor, where the counselor has about 5 minutes and his main job is to figure out whether the kid is going to hurt himself or anyone else

Really felt more like she was tying up some loose ends for Thrawn then trying to 'help' the New Republic.

"Low voltages it can be used." Why did they not remove the higher voltages?

Truth. I'm a rebel through and through but the Empire did know how to dress up

Yeah that was my first thought "how's that any different to what the empire did. The outer rim seems like a much nicer place"

With the mentions of Gideon maybe not actually being in prison, the mentions of her formerly working for Gideon, and the large quantity of tie interceptors in this episode, I think she’s 100% a double agent tying up loose ends and there’s someone pulling the imperial remnant’s strings. It might even be Thrawn.

They did a great job making this New Republic rehab program just as creepy and dystopian as the Empire

I found the bit with the peak of the mountain (I forget the name) just visible from the promenade especially sad. Interesting, for sure, but sad. Obviously it's been like that since long before the Empire, but it just shows how deeply disconnected Coruscant is from the real world. The smallest glimpse of something real, tangible - and you're not allowed to touch it. I'm not sure it was intentional, but I found that a really good metaphor for how disconnected the sycophantic elites of Coruscant are from the reality of the galaxy. And as much as I love Mon Mothma, she is ALSO an elite.

One of Pershing's anxieties was that the New Republic isn't willing to use the talents and tech that the ex-Imperials had to offer. But, as we see, the Republic government does indeed use those talents and tech, just not what Pershing had in mind.

"One cannot deny that they looked fabulous while oppressing people" I'm mad that I laughed

Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss in a nutshell.

It’s the Empire but with nicey-nice steps… until they activate the brainalyzer

I found this episode hard to watch in some ways. While I enjoyed the look at what is happening on Coruscant and I found Pershing's story compelling, it was obvious that he was being setup. It was heartbreaking to watch. I kept waiting for the betrayal that I knew was going to come. The scene with the Republic mind flayer was very disturbing, as it should have been. What made it more disturbing was the "cheerful" music that was playing. Watching the New Republic make idiotic mistake after idiotic mistake made me start to think these people deserve to be ruled by a Sith.

"Bureaucracy. Bureaucracy never changes."

One thing i don’t understand is why did that ”totally not a mindflayer” machine even have the option to turn it into harmful mode smh

I was looking forward to your thoughts on this. I figured this episode would be right up your alley. Both the Amnesty Program and early signs of the Imperial Remnant being active in the heart of the New Republic seem like topics you'd love.

She pulled some shit FBI and CIA does

The most horrifying thing is two fold: first the complete aversion of Imperial technology except when it benefits the New Republic (not necessarily the people either.) and the complete removal of the person just like the Empire. Even the friendly New Republic people refer to him by a serial number. Not exactly something you want to do if you’re trying to rehabilitate someone who was degraded to nothing more than rank and number.

Imagine the good he would’ve done had that doctor been successful. The organ transplant part really resonated with me since I knew a couple of friends who were in need of blood or organ donors but weren’t able to get them due to lack of availability.

The analytics building looks extremely similar to the bureau of standards from andor

Palpatine used the Republic's corruption to rise the Empire, the rebellion took the Empire out but the same corruption remains

Almost like centralized authority always ends badly for the individual and their rights.

This is in direct contrast to what other ex Imperial went through (Sinjir Rath Velu, that member of Alphabet Squad or others through the Galactic Civil War). They stripped then of their personality and gave mind manipulation to the ones who question their rules (completely ironic). I know Leia left because she withheld important family ties but man, Cara Dune really saved Bill Burt character when she busted him out for a mission. What is the NR aversion to Clones after Clones saved them during the Clone Wars? I get that Bad Batch is showing why but man, this organization is the Empire with a bright coat of paint. We also hear that they are in the process of disarming both any Imperial gear they can get their hands on as well their own fleets while unrest in the Outer Rim continues to boil, people like that Pirate King and the Imperial Warlord are more than happy that is going and I do believe the NR is more than willing to tell their remaining Spec Ops to disband in the middle of missions and likely prosecute them for hurting the remaining enemies. Now I want to see the show with Cara more than before. The Mandalorians are coming as the best group to be in the SW universe, and they are a mixture of: Viking, Spartans, Mongolians, etc while also being upfront about it. They can also be able to reform their culture as shown during Satine ruling.

In the recent episode of The Mandalorian, there was a mention of the Rebel Alliance fleet dismantling which is a call back to the New Republic had 90% of its military power gone. Which backfired when the First Order come knocking

The New Republic to me seems like a mix between 1984 and Demolition Man

This appeared to me as some kind of Kafka-esque fever dream🙈

Meet the new boss same as the old boss😳😳😳😳My favorite “Give it a name” 🙏 thanks

Regarding Coruscant, I think this is the best we’ve seen it since ROTS.

Basically it is similar to De-nazification that took place in Germany itself. It didn't exactly apply to operation paper clip, when they took Van Buren & other rocket scientists that had worked on V2 rockets for A.H. & had him working on rockets for NASA. (This was referenced satirically in that great movie "Dr.Strangelove")

Seems we all have the same thoughts, that Elia is still working for the empire. I was expecting her to say long live the empire under her breath at the end of the episode. They had that nice, long love the new republic bit at the beginning, it just would have been a nice book end to it all.

Elia is defintely a double-agent working for someone who's working for palpatine (probably Gideon). They threw out enough clues to make it almost impossible, from a story perspective, that she isn't. Some of the clues are on the nose. Her name for example, sounds a lot like 'a liar'. When they're eating the photon-lollies (I can't remember the name they use) hers is red and his is blue - if they were lightsabers instead of lollies it would be more obvious. The fact that she only appears in the episode when the Dr is giving his speech indicates she is there specifically for him (also fixing her badge on her chest at that moment as though this is an identity she has specifically for this reason). The tactics that she uses. The fact she turns the machine up to 11. I could go on. She's a wrong 'un, no doubt. I wish the sequels didn't exist or would be erased but as they are currently still cannon, and this show is leading to those films, what other explanation could there be? Love your channel man, been following for a while. Cheers.

Where are Star Wars galaxy version of investigative journalists? Now, there is a good show idea!

I love this episode and I see it with alot of nuance for the New Republic. To me, things are clearly better than the Empire, Coruscant looks to be more free and lively than now. Additionally, the amnesty program shows the NR is way more moral than the Empire, who would have executed or prison camped their enemies. However, its also clear that the NR has alot of flaws. They are so morally self righteous that they are detrimentally ignorant. Additionally they have so much Empire ptsd that they demilitarised drastically and refused to learn from them. Shows how sometime strength and efficiency is needed as well as morality. Lastly, one great thing is that the rich still stay rich after the revolution, shows how that somethings don't change.

That woman either is a careerist or a double agent.

Was I the only one to watch the original but it got private mid way through? But still a great video love the questions you ask and the genuine love for the franchise.

I think Elia Kane is there to capture Dr. Pershing to bring him back and/or get him to willingly defect back to the remnants of the Empire for their covert cloning program. (Maybe the Doctor's job is similar to Syril Karn's because of an out-of-universe reason: they get to reuse that cool-looking and possibly expensive overall set design.)

The beatings will continue until morale improves. 😂😂😂

Love your content and so cool we got see courscent again in love action. Also yeah some parts of new republic are no different from the empire.

hey Generation Tech! I just got to say I've been coming to this channel since 2018 and you had like 300k subs. Its a crime that you dont have a Mill yet...your content is a refreshing take on SW and i love it bro thanks for entertaining me over the years...

I love Coruscant too, Allen. I get an emotional thrill every time I see it onscreen. And yet... I'm sure I don't have to tell you... it is an *_abomination!_* An entire planet encased in a skin of concrete, metal and plastic? An entire ecosystem brutally wiped out so that a trillion humanoids can exist there, mostly living lives of joyless drudgery? Would you like to see that happen to Earth? It couldn't of course. Mother Nature would wipe us out before we even got close. So it is a thing of pure imagination. A metaphor perhaps of utter artificiality. And thus an appropriate one for Star Wars. You make a good point about Dr. Pershing's fever-dream. From start to finish it was almost like one of these ST:TNG episodes where a character is being deceived by holodeck trickery into thinking they are experiencing an ideal reality. This is SW, so that won't happen here. The problem, as I see it, is *_still_* the sequels. Disney wants them to make sense, we have to buy into just *_how_* Palpatine comes back, into just *_why_* Luke Skywalker, so full of hope and goodness, becomes a bitter, defeated old hermit. So, contrived as it is, as badly done as it is, we now have to be shown that what followed the defeat of the Empire was just as bad, if not worse. I found it uncomfortable viewing, even as I enjoyed another great episode of a show I have come to love. Part of my brain was protesting, there's just no way the idealistic, altruistic Rebels of the OT would create a society like this. But... Palpatine's gotta come back, Luke's gotta be a guy who wants to kill his student in their sleep, so... er, this is the way.

I figured something was up when the officers were being referred to by numbers.

Really enjoyed the video. Very similar to our own world. The more things change the more they seem to stay the same. "We trade one villan for another" - The Arbiter

8:30, While there isn’t any proof of this, my thought was that maybe amnesty housing is just repurposed clone housing from after they were decommissioned. Considering that the clones would be in their 80s at this point and most of them are likely dead, that would’ve left these housing complexes mostly vacant which would’ve been perfect for the amnesty program. It’s also a bit sick considering what the empire did to the clones, having those who left the empire be forced to live where they put the clones years before. They’re being retired the same way they retired the clones, only this time it’s the new republic putting them there.

Kane is still working for Gideon she's wiping his knowledge of the cloning experiments and she was sent on this Mission before Gideon was captured

Anybody else feel legitimately creeped out in certain moments of the recent episode? Like the entire time the Republic Senators were talking to Pershing it felt like that kinda niceness that comes with a scope trained on your forehead the entire time.

Regarding not much changing under the new management of the New Republic, I think that while I lot of people decried the Empire for its cold control of the populace, the truth is that those who were in power and those of means liked that sort of control, and weren't going to do a 180 and relinquish that power just because the Emperor was gone. If anything, it gave them more opportunities to fill the power vacuum with their own people, to solidify their hold and their wealth gap as much as possible (after two massive wars over the span of a couple of decades, who really has the stomach to fight another one?). Sure, they'd have to pay lip service to the new government, but behind closed doors and in those rooms where deals are made, this was just business as usual, which is the sad truth of any reality.

I like how you can tell that regardless of whose in charge. The same bureaucratic system has been running the galaxy since Russan, if not longer.

It's really creepy that the new Republic is dehumanizing former Imperials by referring to them by their numbers and they seem to even gladly refer to each other by numbers this is something to even the empire did but only two rank-and-file soldiers but they're all being treated that way here

5:28 I disagree with Mon Mothma. Her actions just basically allowed the Empire breathing room to rebuild and return. Making the army and navy small on purpose just allows the former Imperials to just go into deep space and rebuild, and come back to kick ass. I mean, hell, the Ancient Sith did it, but unlike the Ancient Sith, who had to spend 1300 years to rebuild, the Empire merely needed to spend a few decades in exile and rebuild, because they didn't need to build up much to conquer a weak republic. It's like what that general said in the Mandalorian, the one that Miggs shot: all they needed to do is outlast the New Republic, Imperial remnants are gaining strength in the Outer Rim while the New Republic eats itself alive. At this point, I'd rather have the Children of the Watch seize control of the New Republic so they can build up its military and use the wealth of the core worlds to provide arms and warships to fuel its growth. Then you'd see prosperity and strength to the point where the First Order would be nothing but a border skirmish against the might of the Mando-led New Republic. Heck, they can even give jobs to former Imperials by putting them back in their old military gigs, just make them swear allegiance to Mandalore and the idiot holding the Darksaber and they're good to go.

The way that Andor has portrayed The New Republic kind of makes The Last Jedi's portrayal of Luke start to make sense, he's just a veteran disillusioned by his participation in The Galactic Civil War, and despondent from all of the lives he took all for everything to remain basically the same as it was under The Empire.

I think one of the lore aspects that really gets to me is that for people living far enough down on Coruscant life doesn’t change between the Republic, Empire, New Republic. They go along with a life of poverty in dangerous circumstances regardless of who is ruling things because they are a forgotten nonissue to those at the upper levels.

When you remember that the Empire was the Old Republic, and then became the New Republic....a lot of the same people were still in charge during all three periods ( say 'Hi' to the Core ) just during the Empire they really let their hair down and didn't care too much about who could see all the corruption. Well, til Tarkin blew up Alderaan, then they all took a step back

This is why I love this channel. Big brain Star Wars.

the mind flayer scan , the music sounds like it's from Brazil with the torture scean at the end

It's different because the writers of Andor would never have written something so dumb as all the doctors and technicians leaving an ex-Imperial alone with the dial of the mind flayer. That's the difference with these show vs. Andor. The attention to detail is not what it should be. The bar for Star Wars quality is Andor's attention to detail and all of Star Wars deserves that nuance and none of the shows have had it besides Andor. Boba, Kenobi, and Mando have all had flashes of brilliance. They just aren't consistent and the pacing is off too. This story would have been so much better if they had told it in short bursts the entire season for pacing sake.

Alan you should start a military history channel the same way geetsley did with The Front. I think you'd do excellent

Yeah, it's depressing to think that all of the sacrifices made by Han, Luke, Leia, and the rebels in the OT, Andor, Rebels, and Rogue One lead to barely any change at all...

The Bloodline book also tells us that half the Republic Senate is run by former Imperials in the Centrist faction, so it doesn't shock me that this shit is going on.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who have the exact same feelings about how shady the new republic is, and with Aliyah Kayne being a sleeper agent who's succesfully infiltrated the New Republic and still actually works for Moff Gideon.

Earlier in the episode they were telling Pershing to destroy tech because it is imperial. He insisted that It could be useful in the hands of the new republic and that he could show them. But at the end of the episode he gets it used on himself

Amnesty Program seems like the VA in the US. The moment the doctor is conversating with the other veterans felt like how real veterans talk. sharing memories about shared miseries such as eating MREs / ration packs. just my perspective.

This episode introduced a new drinking game; take a shot every time anyone said “New Republic.”

To answer your parting question: yes, it was worth it. I'm a Filipino who grew up in the Marcos dictatorship and I have witnessed how a country heals and improves a long period of corruption -- very slowly. In real life, dictatorships come about when a society starts to slide a little for various reasons and the people become increasingly anxious, selfish, and prone to believing in demagogues. When a smart demagogue comes, they vote him into power. He enhances the worst in them while strengthening his grip on power. Sort of like the massive scale version of how a child reared by an abusive parent gets messed up and becomes a copy of that parent. So once a rebellion or revolution occurs and the dictator is removed, you still have to fix the mess left behind with the help of a neurotic and traumatized generation of people you're not sure you can trust. Once evil has been introduced in a culture, it takes generations before everything improves. It's never instant. This is something I have seen for myself, and I am not surprised that the Star Wars IP is now showing this reality more and more. But you can't be jaded, either. Star Wars has its iconic heroes who are undeniably good and real life does have saints. Change for good does come, after a long struggle and great sacrifice.

To the Empire, the New Republic seems to be something like what GDR was to the Third Reich The state softened and became more humane, it doesn't kill millions of people anymore, but it's still kinda dystopian in a new way

The Galactic Empire is a lot like Hydra from the MCU. It wasn't defeated or destroyed. It just never left.

I don’t know if it’s funny or creepy, but when Alan said something about is it still torture when they’re smiling, the YT app went to an ad for Amazon - with its smileyface logo. I thought it was part of the video, at first…

Something felt dissonant about this episode and the NR. I couldn't put my finger on it exactly until the end. It's the same tenants, different landlord. I felt so bad for him. He legitimately wanted to use his knowledge and research for good; he genuinely wanted to help. I agree with him. Equipment is equipment. A tool is just a tool. What makes it evil is the person who uses it and what manner they use it in. But I love how deeply their developing Coruscant. :D

I was blinded by my thirst for justice. It's so obvious that she is a double agent!

I like how this and The Bad Batch are overlapping with each other. We see the same machine that Admiral Rampart used on Crosshair to make him more Docile. Also that this was almost Fives fate before AZ-1 informed him.

"Don't worry this mindflayer is a good one, it will only nibble your brain"

If you're going to replace an empire with a different empire, it better be more efficient and functional.

All I want is to see more of Dr. Pershing, one of the most interesting characters I’ve seen on the show so far.

Funny how when I was watching that episode I said that Pershing's work place did look like the buero of statistucs

Setting up the new Mandalorian crusade.

I'm glad that the NR is getting some background after not existing in the movies, the Amnesty program can either be incompetent by letting a bunch of Imperials group together and plan insurgent activities, or secretly dark by grouping them in one spot for easy removal.

I love how the mandalorian is able to show the down sides of both the empire and the republic, showing how they do fight, they aren’t actually that different.

To quote the Who: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Or Rush’s Circumstances, The more things change, the more they stay the same. I really like how this episode shows this. It’s supposed to be nine years in, right? Then, look at Afghanistan. We went in there (like everyone else before them) thinking we could change them. It seemed things were going ok for a time, but then when we finally did leave, it fell so fast, and it’s 1999 again.

I love what the Vong did with Coruscant

I always look forward to your breakdowns, as it not only views the media in the lens of a fan of Star Wars but also as someone who sees the political and social ideas and issues being portrayed in it.

That episode reinforced my head cannon that the Jedi are still out there possibly as some fusion of The Hidden Path and the old Jedi Order doing their duty to the Force and the People but avoiding the hell out of the likes of the New Republic, the Imperial Remnants or anyone with the last name Skywalker

Why does the Galactic government flushes down their perfectly still usable ressources every 20 years ?

Forced psychadelics are NEVER a good thing

Nothing changes in the core. I think the only difference for courasant is that by this point its no longer the political centre of the Galaxy (the new republic capital now being a rotating sensate), but what that does mean is that the hogh-paloi of Courasant now don't even have to feign interest or knowledge of galactic affairs and politics because they're no longer in the centre of it. I did like the little touch in the mind wiper room of the "soothing music" being played in the background - i know it was a high republic line, but I do remeber Loran Dee, when imprissoned, mentioning how during their "therapy" sessions they'd play calming music and have a whole "self reflection" theatre to just mask the fact that they were all imprissoned on a prison ship, made to undertake labour and regularly interrigated by republic security personel. All the republic did was paint a happy face on the wall.

If this comes out, which Kane might make sure of and the imperial remnant will have a field day

This episode, the Coruscant side anyway, made no sense to me, it really did not hang together well. Firstly why do Lucasfilm always want everything to be grey, the buildings, the clothing and most of all, the opposing sides. Star Wars used to be black and white, good and evil, that's why it was such a success. It harkened back to the days when we knew who to cheer for and who to boo, now everything, good or evil, has to be grey and confusing. Why would the New Republic be acting just like the Empire did with rehabilitation camps and screwing with peoples brains? Why would they be destroying perfectly good Imperial starships, just as Palpatine did with Republic starships after the Clone War? Why would Pershing go from addressing a stadium full of people who like him and want him to help the New Republic to a simple desk job? If Elia Kane is not a New Republic spy, and she obviously isn't as she is addressed and spoken to by the mind flayer operator as if she was an ex-Imperial and a success for the Amnesty program, then why does she get off after breaking the law with Pershing? And if she had gone to the New Republic and said that Pershing had gone bad why would they believe her? Doesn't Pershing make a far better person to recruit to the New Republic than a communications officer from an Imperial starship? After WW2 the German soldiers, after a de-briefing, were just sent home and that was that. They weren't held for ages in camps, the Allies wanted to put the war behind them. Operation Paperclip is a good call back as it was the Allies attempt to recruit important German scientists to come to the West to work for them. Why isn't Pershing being treated that way?

When I first read the Thrawn trilogy in the 1990s and Kevin Anderson's trilogy, I couldn't help but notice that both Borsk Fey'lya and former Imperial officers were stirring up trouble in the New Republic, which made it hard for Han, Luke, Leia, Lando, and Wedge to fight the Empire under Thrawn and his successors.

I really love the New Republic uniforms. It reminds me of OG Star Tours. The costumes, haircuts, and environments are perfect. Hopefully the writing will continue to grow to match.

I got the strong vibe from this Episode, that the whole Program Was subverted by the Imperial Remnant over its course and basically the same elite that Was present during imperial rule are trying to undermine from the beginning. They are basically now the "rebels" like mon mothma in Andor to conceil the imperial sentiments until the first Order comes along

I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management.

Long live the Empire

Would love to see a new republic Mon mothma series as a spiritual sequel to andor.

She's still loyal to the empire. Eating that travel cake at the end was confirmation.

Did they say that Elia was New Republic Intelligence? I don't remember that being mentioned in the episode. I assumed that she is a plant for the Imperial Remnant that snitched on Dr. Pershing under the guise of "doing the right thing." Although, if she is supposed to be NRI, that would explain why the guards let her walk away with the mobile lab, which I thought was really weird.