The New Tesla Wireless Charger is AMAZING

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Tesla made Apple's Air Power before Apple could make Apples Air Power! All thanks to a 3rd party company named Free Power of course. Today we get to take apart Tesla's Wireless charging platform. A pretty fancy little device that cost 300 dollars. BUT... with good reason. There are 30 coils of copper inside this thing and it looks AMAZING!
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@arvilsdead
@arvilsdead Жыл бұрын
A transparent version with all the coils visible would be awesome, something about them is mesmerizing
@KOSMOS1701A
@KOSMOS1701A Жыл бұрын
i totally agree, its quite the hypnotic sight.
@emagz8
@emagz8 Жыл бұрын
There's a wireless charger by a company called Zens that is just that. I use it it charges 2 phones at almost 15W
@ololh4xx
@ololh4xx Жыл бұрын
Apple will probably offer a transparent one - for an additional fee, of course.
@TazTheTech
@TazTheTech Жыл бұрын
I agree a transparent version would be amazing and I would buy one
@andrewmalkowicz8407
@andrewmalkowicz8407 Жыл бұрын
look at Liberty Wireless Charger Glass by Zens
@thefynn
@thefynn Жыл бұрын
disassembling this is very nice, but scratching new devices gives me both physical and hearing pain
@romella_karmey
@romella_karmey Жыл бұрын
I always cringe at the scratching part
@TheRexion
@TheRexion Жыл бұрын
I personally can't stand it.
@alexhwa2017
@alexhwa2017 Жыл бұрын
No one made you watch it
@CL-gq3no
@CL-gq3no Жыл бұрын
Seems completely pointless.
@ShayanQ
@ShayanQ Жыл бұрын
Ayyy fellow rebels fan
@kugarionnull7714
@kugarionnull7714 9 ай бұрын
Hey, I have a pad from Zens since a couple of years. Has a pretty similar layout for the coils and has a glass top variant. Charges two devices and a USB attachment to charge the apple watch. If you want to check out the glass top, it’s the Zens Liberty Charger Glass Edition.
@manp1039
@manp1039 Жыл бұрын
i am wondering if potting them in non conducting epoxy would help to show off the copper coils while also providing a thermal heat synch.
@cerealenjoyer3000
@cerealenjoyer3000 9 ай бұрын
Heat Sink. As in heat going down the sink
@user-gf7mf9sm5z
@user-gf7mf9sm5z Жыл бұрын
The wire is enameled which means it has a very thin, transparent coating so there is no risk of wires touching each other. So the glue is probably just there to make sure everything stays in place and maybe add some separation for heat dissipation
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 Жыл бұрын
The coils isn't the thing that gets warm, the high frequency switching circuitry does.
@moonasha
@moonasha Жыл бұрын
@@DOGMA1138 the coils are an inductive load, basically a big resistor. Of course they get warm.
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 Жыл бұрын
@@moonasha Take a thermal camera to a Qi charger and see for yourself, the coil barely gets above ambient, the resonant circuit on the other and gets quite toasty as you are looking at switching frequencies of up to about 200 kHz and at voltages of up to 200v. This is also why you have the TIM on the switching circuitry and nothing on the coils. Heck the coils in this one are glued with glue that pretty much dissolves at around 50-60c....
@tjl2836
@tjl2836 Жыл бұрын
​@@moonasha Inductive loads (and capacitive loads) do not generate heat, only resistive loads do. Inductive loads oppose changes in current by storing excess energy in a magnetic field, whereas resistive will always oppose current regardless and will dissipate that current as heat. Since inductors store energy as a magnetic field, that energy can be harvested by another nearby conductive object like a second coil. This is how wireless charging works to a basic degree. If any heat is genenated from inductance it is from the natural resistance of the copper coil wires which is unavoidable unless you use a superconductor.
@hannesschwan6284
@hannesschwan6284 Жыл бұрын
@@DOGMA1138it depends on the topology and control strategy.. typically the resistance of the coils limits the efficiency when you are in areas above 90%, below that the efficiency is commonly influenced by poor switching conditions of the FETs, which are a result from the variable load due to the variable magnetic coupling.. you are right that the glue is an indicator for low temperature Operation of the coils (which either indicates brilliant optimisation of the coils, or a poor overall efficiency with most losses in the converter as you said) What I was asking myself, the shielding can’t be seen in the video, so either there’s is no or it’s hidden between the coils and the converter PCB?
@methanial73
@methanial73 Жыл бұрын
The coils are made of magnet wire. Magnet wire has a thin varnish insulator on it. The glue on them is most likely just to keep them from flopping around in the case. No isolation of the coils should be needed.
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting
@tydshiin5783
@tydshiin5783 Жыл бұрын
​@@JerryRigEverythingiirc the coils are really just enameled copper, Methanial is close but they're not "magnet wires" but can become magnetic when coiled on metal and given an charge
@heyhoe168
@heyhoe168 Жыл бұрын
@@tydshiin5783 they need isolation not only between coils, but within coil too.
@chaxiraxi9083
@chaxiraxi9083 10 ай бұрын
@@tydshiin5783 magnet wire is another name for enameled wires so yes methanial is indeed correct
@AngryFloatingCow
@AngryFloatingCow 9 ай бұрын
@@JerryRigEverything did you not know what enameled copper wire was? How do you think coils work? if they required electrical isolation between coils, they would require isolation within coils.
@SeiRruf
@SeiRruf Жыл бұрын
Always yes for a transparent version of electronics!!
@ninjaong87
@ninjaong87 Жыл бұрын
"Now that Apple has seen how it's done, we'll see Air Power back on the shelves in a year or two." 😂😂😂
@blingyad691
@blingyad691 Жыл бұрын
And to say apple fail to do that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bongkem2723
@bongkem2723 Жыл бұрын
lol it's funny cause it's true :)))
@philippealfaiate1097
@philippealfaiate1097 Жыл бұрын
I think Apple always marge 10 times the raw material price, so if it really cost 300$ of raw materials they didn't do it because 3k$ at retail price was to much so they drop it. 🤣😂
@zandercerlong7238
@zandercerlong7238 Жыл бұрын
@@philippealfaiate1097 no tons of apple hardware has very little profit they don’t make much money selling the iPhone their entire business model is as a software company that’s where the vast majority of their profits come from
@Ismsanmar
@Ismsanmar Жыл бұрын
@@zandercerlong7238 Are you really serious or are you joking and I didn't catch it?
@FC_mania
@FC_mania Жыл бұрын
Apple’s main problem was trying to accommodate the industry standard QI charging AND the proprietary Apple Watch size. So that’s two layers of a dozen interlaced copper coils each. It’s no wonder it didn’t work.
@user-vo7tj4bv1z
@user-vo7tj4bv1z Жыл бұрын
Why can’t the switch the watch wireless charger to qi like AirPods. I assume those 2 use similar size
@titanium_rocket1505
@titanium_rocket1505 Жыл бұрын
I’d also imagine it had to do with it being smaller and thinner
@kacperolszowski1331
@kacperolszowski1331 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vo7tj4bv1z same thing with samsung, galaxy watches are using their own wireless charging standard and will not work on any standard wireless charger, even reverse wireless charging won't work on most of the phones (of course it works fine on samsung phones). And watch 4 is probalby same size as galaxy buds case
@VKdViKingDark
@VKdViKingDark Жыл бұрын
@@kacperolszowski1331 Actually the Galaxy watch do charge with normal qi chargers. Its just that the target is very small to hit. Samsungs wireless power share also works on all wireless charging capable phones. I have charged Samsung phones, iPhone, Pixels, my galaxy watch, Airpods, galaxy earbuds with my phone. No Sir, It just that Apple sucks. The thing is Apple designers would sooner commit suicide than make such a thick and ugly (to them) device. Do you think Apple doesn't have time to refresh the almost 10 year old magic mouse by now? They do, but the sleekness of that mouse is what still keeps it on the shelves regardless of it being an ergonomical disaster.
@kacperolszowski1331
@kacperolszowski1331 Жыл бұрын
@@VKdViKingDark nope, i have galaxy watch 4 and 3 wireless chargers around the home, watch won't charge on any of them. After placing it on charger it will show green ring showing that it's charing and then turn off after like 30 seconds, but when i tried using samsung s22 for wirelessly charging watch it worked absolutely fine. Reverse wireless charging from nothing phone 1 dosen't work on watch either, but works fine on everything else
@SomeChef
@SomeChef Жыл бұрын
Always nice to see Zach get genuinely excited about a new piece of hardware
@nickwulf
@nickwulf Жыл бұрын
Who is Zack? Is that Jerry's friend?
@collectsteve8509
@collectsteve8509 Жыл бұрын
@@nickwulf The guy's name actually is Zach, Jerry is his grandfather's name. you would know if you followed his channels long enough.
@NurdRage777
@NurdRage777 Жыл бұрын
Well let's waste more energy in a energy crisis world wide for the lazy first class people who can afford to waste energy.
@Alpine_flo92002
@Alpine_flo92002 10 ай бұрын
@@NurdRage777 Yeah. Best you get rid of your phone and PC
@pogospin984
@pogospin984 10 ай бұрын
haha nice@@Alpine_flo92002
@MasakyoRenSai
@MasakyoRenSai Жыл бұрын
Your jibes at Apple are always so funny and accurate! 😂
@castleXgeek
@castleXgeek Жыл бұрын
I love the "I'll drop a couple hundred on a charger but will never pay $7 for Twitter" 😂
@genie4539
@genie4539 Жыл бұрын
It's $7 a month though, will add up as you go into the future 😄
@ConnorNolan
@ConnorNolan Жыл бұрын
that's $84 a year, and you know he'll raise the price as people abandon twitter. I'd been on the platform for ten years and I deleted my account two months ago
@babayada2015
@babayada2015 Жыл бұрын
@@ConnorNolan lmao that's just sad.
@_Spacecraft
@_Spacecraft Жыл бұрын
@@ConnorNolan You don't have to pay for it lol. Did you delete it after 10 years just because Elon bought it?
@zandercerlong7238
@zandercerlong7238 Жыл бұрын
@@_Spacecraft of course he did he is a beta male. Delete Twitter because Elon is “bad” but most of the products he uses on a day to day basis comes from 3rd world country slave labor and or communist control.
@Nigel_Broatch
@Nigel_Broatch Жыл бұрын
You could put a USB test meter in the lead to the charger to see how much it's drawing. Good test meters show amps, volts & watts.
@alexandruilea915
@alexandruilea915 Жыл бұрын
It's most likely drawing 65W but only 45W gets to the devices as Zack said.
@greatgecks2256
@greatgecks2256 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandruilea915 but the problem is it’s just “he says it “ and he says it because that’s what Tesla says. It doesn’t mean that that’s actually what’s being drawn or put out that’s what the metres are for
@donaldstrader7241
@donaldstrader7241 Жыл бұрын
Nigel, What USB test meter(s) do you recommend, one that will also accommodate USB "C"?
@DarylRaverty
@DarylRaverty Жыл бұрын
Yes, Just because the power supply can produce up to 65 watts does not mean it's running at 65 watts. That would be very hot on the power supply end and highly unlikely these electronic power supplies always adjust to suit the load. So if the load was 15 watts it would probably be using 15 watts from the grid and so on
@BenState
@BenState Жыл бұрын
@@DarylRaverty The unit can provide a sustained 45W, or 9A @5V which is 10 times higher than USB 3.1
@keatman
@keatman Жыл бұрын
The coils are actually hypnotic if you stare at it long enough
@TippyHippy
@TippyHippy Жыл бұрын
I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture
@Tplays420
@Tplays420 Жыл бұрын
@@TippyHippy wtf
@jakefriesenjake
@jakefriesenjake Жыл бұрын
It's so demonic
@cybernerd7492
@cybernerd7492 Жыл бұрын
​@@TippyHippyamateur stuff
@MaximTsyba
@MaximTsyba Жыл бұрын
​@@TippyHippy I can't even find an appropriate category to report you for spamming this shit under every video
@BrianCzapiga
@BrianCzapiga Жыл бұрын
Freepower already sold a similar device through NOMAD but it was called Base Station Pro over there. The old one could only charge two devices at a time and there was a long history of firmware updates as they were getting the bugs out. I previously had the NOMAD one but it occasionally would not charge my phone. (Which was a bit upsetting to wake up with an uncharged phone.) I now either charge wired or with an Apple certified Magsafe pad to be sure I always have my phone ready when I wake up.
@EikottXD
@EikottXD Жыл бұрын
I don't get why people use wireless charging for phones anyways. For gaming mouse pads it makes sense. For phones it does not. Ain't nobody got time for 15watts max rated charging...
@exadeci
@exadeci Жыл бұрын
​@@EikottXD Convinience when you are not in a hurry, I use one to charge my phone overnight it's a one step process vs finding the end of the cable, plugging it and putting the phone down. Same thing during the day while I work I have another wireless charger that I use if the battery gets low. Of course if I need to go somewhere and my phone needs charging I'll use the fast charger.
@caresblair1234
@caresblair1234 Жыл бұрын
@@EikottXD Yeah, what an excellent way to send those pesky microwave transmissions directly into the center of your hands cells. Of coarse trusting the peeps who sell this trash to actually warn of dangers (or even BETTER incorporate safety into the tech to begin with) is always a recipe for a win (for the salesperson hah). Even people who were relative EXPERTS in the field of electromedicine such as bob beck and hulda clark STILL died of cancer from what they were doing, THIS is a whole other level!
@EileenTheCr0w
@EileenTheCr0w 9 ай бұрын
@@EikottXD I used to think the same, that it was a pointless gimmick, but it's actually kinda convenient in the right situations. Like the other guy said any time I really need to make sure my device charges quick or full before doing something I plug it into one of my good 30-65w GaN chargers. But for my bedside table I plop my phone or earbuds on that because I don't care how long it takes, I'm going to sleep for 6hours at least so it's fine and it makes everything a lot cleaner and easier not dealing with wires.. also if my phone is dying it helps me finally go to sleep because I can't just plug it in and keep using it, forcing a better habit. I also have a wireless pad on my desk, for basically the same reason, I'll use discord and everything else on my pc while I'm there, so idc if it's slower. And there's one built into my car, which I like because it holds the phone in place too while I'm driving and keeps it charged up as I use wireless android auto. But if my phone is low then I'll actually plug it in.
@580guru
@580guru 7 ай бұрын
I prefer having both....(wired usb plugs AND wireless charging)! Luckily it's cheap AND easy! Just wire in usbA & usbC jacks into the wireless base and add another voltage regulator.
@semilife
@semilife 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jerry always educating and entertaining.
@kasper_429
@kasper_429 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure someone with a 3D printer could come up with a transparent top for this thing. That would be a sick addition.
@PizzaCat1732
@PizzaCat1732 Жыл бұрын
Making a transparent part on a 3d printer would be difficult. definitely possible though.
@karezaalonso7110
@karezaalonso7110 Жыл бұрын
@@PizzaCat1732 or use the OEM to make a mould to pour in
@DmanYTofficial
@DmanYTofficial Жыл бұрын
Laser cut acrylic might be easier, no?
@ItssBrian
@ItssBrian Жыл бұрын
@@PizzaCat1732 transparent 3d parts don't look good, but you could 3d print the connection between the charger and a sheet of acrylic.
@BBMiscerSON1990
@BBMiscerSON1990 Жыл бұрын
@@ItssBrian You're think about the filament fed printers. Resin based printers transparent looks fine in my experience
@Decadentotter
@Decadentotter Жыл бұрын
This is really cool. My friends have a wireless charging pad with a clear top similar to this. It's super handy when we're over and need to charge any phones or multiple at the same time.
@perthmadbloke
@perthmadbloke Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely hilarious "thanks for watching Tim Cook" 🤣😎👊🙏
@robkeshav800
@robkeshav800 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Similar charger on my refreshed MS which works great. Any truth to the myth that using wireless charger is not good for the car battery? Wish they sold a charger that would charge iPad Pro and iPhone. I was told by the Tesla store that this won't charge iPad.
@Madlintelf
@Madlintelf Жыл бұрын
Zack, I'm all for transparency! That is a fantastic charger, really love the design.
@enissay9950
@enissay9950 Жыл бұрын
Mesmerizing view inside indeed. A transparent version would rock!
@jakefriesenjake
@jakefriesenjake Жыл бұрын
Same with clear cell phone battery covers for cell phones. I have the spigen zero one case. It's nice, but fake
@TheShineri3
@TheShineri3 Жыл бұрын
GOSH! THAT METAL ON METAL SCRATCH HURT SO MUCH, GOT GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER MY BODY!
@MLG7707
@MLG7707 Жыл бұрын
you made more scratches on a single video than i've ever done in my entire life :)))
@thycheesepurger
@thycheesepurger Жыл бұрын
0:30 someone at the factory got a little to happy
@commentguy832
@commentguy832 Жыл бұрын
'Thanks for watching Tim Cook ' best line😂
@21sungalute.42
@21sungalute.42 Жыл бұрын
Each time I watch your show it reminds me of a childhood memory of me doing similar stuff though they’re always accompanied by me getting the back of my legs slapped!
@gizConAsh
@gizConAsh Жыл бұрын
That Apple diss at the end lmao. Love your tongue in cheek humor
@matthewcovington2699
@matthewcovington2699 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a tear down on these ! Thank you!
@eme71791
@eme71791 Жыл бұрын
"still aint paying 7 dollars for twitter though"
@xrpbible
@xrpbible Жыл бұрын
Nice tear down vid 💯
@MarioReyesSAP
@MarioReyesSAP Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks! Yes, I believe a transparent case it would look fantastic
@GoatV8
@GoatV8 Жыл бұрын
You need to have a piece of acrylic (or glass if possible) made for this thing! It's too cool looking to keep hidden
@nikdog419
@nikdog419 Жыл бұрын
That pacemaker line, I was thinking it before you said it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@arturopaz3673
@arturopaz3673 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that information about the pacemakers. That's nice to know now
@emagz8
@emagz8 Жыл бұрын
A company called Zens does the same exact thing, they released a few years ago. 2 devices at 15W and they have a clear version. Active fan cooling as well. You can also buy an apple watch adaptor to make it 3
@andrew66862
@andrew66862 Жыл бұрын
@OskyEdz and that's Apples business model. So Tesla stole that as well
@maximumcopeland
@maximumcopeland Жыл бұрын
Nomad also used to sell a Freepower charging station back in 2020, although nowadays I think they've leaned back on their normal base stations that have apple watch mounts/chargers built in.
@CockroachMunchingKrabbyPatty
@CockroachMunchingKrabbyPatty Жыл бұрын
"Zens Liberty Built-in Wireless Charger Glass" for anyone curious.
@craigchatterton4164
@craigchatterton4164 Жыл бұрын
Liberty Charger has half as many coils but is priced higher than Tesla's.
@mavis6935
@mavis6935 Жыл бұрын
@@craigchatterton4164 I wonder if it is possible to make something like this DIY. I'd love to set up a large section of my desk with wireless charging pads under the wood. My dream build is to be able to place my phone anywhere on the right-hand side of my desk and it just charges. I feel like buying multiple single coil pads could cause interference with each other and possibly be a hazard? But not sure.
@ericjackson6982
@ericjackson6982 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the transparent top. That would look really cool.
@ZachCountryman
@ZachCountryman Жыл бұрын
First thing I thought when I saw that epic array of coils, YES! Transparent surface would be /so/ awesome~
@securityscorpion8687
@securityscorpion8687 Жыл бұрын
"JerryRigEverything"....that is brilliant!🤣👍🏼
@tattooedchick24
@tattooedchick24 Жыл бұрын
I actually bought a wireless charger off Amazon a while back that was similar looking to that exposed coil look. Unfortunately the one I bought didn’t work that great. Tesla should definitely sell a clear version exposing the coils.
@Melchirobin
@Melchirobin Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Apple did not launch it was because it also had to work with the Apple Watch (which I would love to see yo try and maybe make a short of it later) and they announced a non working prototype which was way thinner and heat dissipation in a device as thin as they wanted would not have been possible.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
Also I've heard that the coils were interfering with each other.
@unbeknownstprofile
@unbeknownstprofile Жыл бұрын
A thinner wireless charger literally doesn't have any benefits aside from aesthetics lol, this is just Apple being Apple 😂
@nk4j272
@nk4j272 Жыл бұрын
I think the actual reason they didn't is magsafe. 1.They decided to make their phone charge wirelessly and 2. Wanted to get royalties liks they xo now from MFA program So ghey decided to use mag safe so they can get royalties from manufacturers.
@jtestaccount2431
@jtestaccount2431 Жыл бұрын
@@nk4j272except they still support normal wireless charging..
@jtestaccount2431
@jtestaccount2431 Жыл бұрын
Apple stopped development because they realised that the way the Tesla charger works is the only way to realistically do it with today's technology, and it still isn't universal across the surface and it has the same issues with phones/devices having to be positioned in certain ways to start charging, apples concept was a device that could charge multiple things positioned anywhere on the surface with zero adjustment necessary, which they found isn't realistically possible
@lexscarlet
@lexscarlet Жыл бұрын
"thanks for watching, Tim -Cook- Apple FTFY 🤣🤣🤣
@TrainLovers-TL69
@TrainLovers-TL69 Жыл бұрын
well explained thanks 👍
@bdtang
@bdtang Жыл бұрын
Hurts every time Jerry scraps the charger with the blade.
@devstorm5416
@devstorm5416 Жыл бұрын
His actual name is Zachary
@21by9
@21by9 Жыл бұрын
@@devstorm5416 🤓
@thor.halsli
@thor.halsli Жыл бұрын
It hurts you to see paint come off? Life is going to be cruel to you...
@Just_Joshing024
@Just_Joshing024 Жыл бұрын
4 layers of wireless chargers is crazy
@rymq
@rymq Жыл бұрын
I've seen only 3 layers before I reeded your comment. Now I see four ;)
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about something like this since I got wireless charging for my phone years ago... my thing is very picky about placement. If you don't match the coil placement in phone exactly with coil in the charger, it doesn't charge or it's intermittent.
@LionheartLivin
@LionheartLivin Жыл бұрын
So beautiful, thank you Jerry and thank you TESLA!!!;)
@M.R._Saar
@M.R._Saar Жыл бұрын
Nice. I think the other reason Apple stopped trying was because they wanted it to charge the watch, too.
@puneetsuperstar17714
@puneetsuperstar17714 Жыл бұрын
Transparent version would be something different, next level 😮
@rohanpoddar2562
@rohanpoddar2562 Жыл бұрын
it would be but you'll have to sell your soul in the after life market.
@JeanYvesBouguet
@JeanYvesBouguet Жыл бұрын
Such an amazing calming voice. You could convince me to buy anything! Thank you for bringing your positive energy to KZfaq
@adamiq
@adamiq Жыл бұрын
Crazy look. Transparent you say... Very nice
@stephenkamenar
@stephenkamenar Жыл бұрын
i agree a transparent version would be epic. looks so cool
@berinloritsch
@berinloritsch Жыл бұрын
There is wireless charging for vehicles... in Europe. It uses magnetic resonance instead of the standard induction you have with qi charging. The Fully Charged Show covered that a while back.
@Eratas1
@Eratas1 Жыл бұрын
Why phones not use magnetic resonance charging?
@tjl2836
@tjl2836 Жыл бұрын
@@Eratas1 Phones built after 2017 should be able to support Qi resonance charging, but there are pros and cons with resonance charging. Normal inductive charging is about 60-80% efficient while magnetic resonance is below 30%. Additionally resonance charging requires more complex circuitry and can produce a lot more electromagnetic interference in the environment. The main benefit for magnetic resonance is it can transfer power over a much further range which is why phones still have it as an option and also could be why cars use it.
@TheWanderingPrince
@TheWanderingPrince Жыл бұрын
Those remind me of old school music boxes that had discs with tiny grooves in them for music. Transparent charger would look pretty slick. They should go all in and make it look like more steam punk!
@ricanporgg3870
@ricanporgg3870 10 ай бұрын
Those knife scratches killed me
@pokemonfreaky100
@pokemonfreaky100 Жыл бұрын
Only downside is the cable goes inside the device and is therefore non-replaceable. A usb-C port would've been the best
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Жыл бұрын
It's replaceable if you have a screwdriver and a soldering iron. But still, a USB C port so anyone could do it would have been best.
@sunnyvale104
@sunnyvale104 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and then the port falls and you have to replace it. Hard wired is better
@aidanaidan8852
@aidanaidan8852 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s meant to be moved around too much, so that shouldn’t be a huge issue.
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 Жыл бұрын
Its also handy if u want a longer or shorter cable
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 Жыл бұрын
@@mjc0961 i think thats modification not replacing in my understanding and warrenty voiding.
@SebiKoerner
@SebiKoerner Жыл бұрын
The problem with AirPower wasn't getting the coils in there, it was having 2 different standrads with Qi and the Apple Watch charger causing so much EMI and heat that that the pads would literally burn down in Apples labs.
@Mari0o0o
@Mari0o0o Жыл бұрын
Imagine expecting a supposed tech reviewer to actually understanding this simple difference rather than just rage bait the even less informed audience
@ChesterZirawin
@ChesterZirawin 10 ай бұрын
Nah, the problem is they are incapable of making innovations so they wait till someone else does it and rip it off. The only real innovation they made in the last years was the efficiency of the overpriced M2 processor while retaining it's excellent performance.
@killervirus57
@killervirus57 10 ай бұрын
@@Mari0o0o you sound like a apple fanboy
9 ай бұрын
@@ChesterZirawin Wtf are you talking about? There is just zero truth in your comment.
@ChesterZirawin
@ChesterZirawin 9 ай бұрын
@ Ok, tell me one of their "innovations" that isn't making it harder to fix the phone? Every larger "feature" they brought in the last few years was on andorid years ago.
@OujaMori
@OujaMori Жыл бұрын
Got curious seeing a big wireless charger in my recommendations - so I clicked on it. Not a minute yet and the first thing that happened was scratching the item. I am reminded this is JerryRig.
@abdullahyahia6055
@abdullahyahia6055 Жыл бұрын
great content as usual
@coredumperror
@coredumperror Жыл бұрын
There ARE wireless chargers for electric vehicles, Jerry. They are still being trialed in Europe, but they are shockingly efficient. There's a video from Byorn Nyland where he showed that one company's product that's already being installed in curb-side charging in some cities is about 95% efficient, which is about the same efficiency as wired fast-charging.
@AtomicSymphonic
@AtomicSymphonic Жыл бұрын
I’m unsure whether that 95% number is trustworthy until it gets into the hands of an independent tester. Companies have sometimes fudged their data before…
@crelliseng
@crelliseng Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen some wireless EV chargers that peaked that high, but it’s in very specific test environments. They raise the charging coil up to touch the vehicle while it’s parked. And your car must be parked dead center with the charger. They talked about adding x-y movement too so the coil moves to match the vehicle in a future version. But a lot of the wireless charging happening on roads are completely awful efficiency.
@SSingh-nr8qz
@SSingh-nr8qz Жыл бұрын
95%? I think not, especially if these are government numbers who are pushing green agenda. Independent testing is required to verify such numbers.
@coredumperror
@coredumperror Жыл бұрын
@@crelliseng iirc you do have to park *very* precisely with this charger, but I don't believe it rises after the car is in position.
@crelliseng
@crelliseng Жыл бұрын
@@coredumperror yeah, I’m confounding different wireless charging solutions. A department of energy lab got 20kW from a prototype spaced 6” apart. Witricity has a 7kW version, but they just have marketing promises that mention it “works” from misalignment or high ground clearance. It’s been a few years since I read about the one that lifts into place, but can’t find anything on it now. Which generally isn’t a good sign about the company still being around lol.
@NonEuclideanTacoCannon
@NonEuclideanTacoCannon Жыл бұрын
I've had my Nothing headphones since launch, USB port broke after a week, and I had no idea they charge wirelessly this whole time.
@AtomicSymphonic
@AtomicSymphonic Жыл бұрын
Earbuds like those only last about 2 years at most… Even my Apple AirPods couldn’t hold a charge after 2 years of daily use.
@Bestofthebest383
@Bestofthebest383 Жыл бұрын
In Belarus public buses charging battery same way , they have charging points at each bus stop. So when bust stop to let passengers to leave a bus or get inside, the battery charges same time while bus at bus stop .
@kingjules2557
@kingjules2557 6 ай бұрын
As i saw you scratching the surface nearly cried 😅 Thanks for showing us!
@galgrunfeld9954
@galgrunfeld9954 Жыл бұрын
Hey, electronics engineers, any reason these were with circular coils rather than squares (to maximize area)? Is it problematic with the magnetic field it creates, or just harder to control?
@ventilate4267
@ventilate4267 Жыл бұрын
Because then you wouldn't be able to call it a coil /s
@quinndonnelly
@quinndonnelly Жыл бұрын
It’s more a question of efficiency, you want the flow of current to match the direction of the coil on the phone’s coil; squares would have little current matching up directionally, it would still charge, just much slower
@Muerte_S
@Muerte_S Жыл бұрын
The flux generated by a coil is proportional to the Area and the cost of the coil is proportional to the perimeter. The circle shape has a better perimeter per unit area compared to the square shape
@dennisbrannvalls1fan964
@dennisbrannvalls1fan964 Жыл бұрын
There are a variety of reasons but the main ones are efficiency and ease of manufacturing. A circular coil produces a magnetic field that is evenly/uniformly distributed in all directions, making it more efficient at transferring power to a device placed anywhere on the charging pad. A square coil would produce a magnetic field that is stronger near the corners and weaker along the edges. This non-uniform field distribution would lead to less efficient power transfer and result in a slower charging process or require the user to carefully position the device on the pad to ensure it is charging.
@froyogumball
@froyogumball Жыл бұрын
not an EE, but I think it has to do with the even distribution of the field produced by a circular coil vs a square would produce uneven fields concentrated in the corners. The receivers would also be circular so squares wouldn’t match up as much.
@brycestewart3181
@brycestewart3181 Жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing, it will pair well with his new phone 🙂 To be able to see the coils would be worth alittle extra, just for fun, Maybe have a thin felty pad you could put over it to soften the had surface on the clear version once the "fun" wore off. Great work, Both of you !!!!
@Iam_inevitabIe
@Iam_inevitabIe Жыл бұрын
That "thanks for watching Tim Cook" was wild😂
@guynumber20
@guynumber20 Жыл бұрын
apple also had an array of IC chips on the device that interacted with the thing it was charging to play the animation also they needed different coils due to the apple watch charging system being proprietaty. any company can lay them out in a grid array like this its been done before airpower was a concept
@AquaticLogic
@AquaticLogic Жыл бұрын
The copper coils are mesmerizing!
@greatgecks2256
@greatgecks2256 Жыл бұрын
That’s great to see the teardown but you didn’t compare it to any other wireless chargers, it would’ve been nice to know what it’s actually putting out other than just the “15” like does it work any better than the other wireless chargers on the market, how fast does it charge compared to other wireless chargers? is it worth a 300 price tag??
@jeanious2009
@jeanious2009 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how Nikkola Tesla must feel knowing not only his technology being used today but also his name.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't, esp when he finds out what kind of pos Musk is. Otoh Tesla did go insane...
@SamuraiDeek
@SamuraiDeek Жыл бұрын
His technology used to make as much money as possible, which is the complete opposite of his idea for free energy
@TechNextLetsGo
@TechNextLetsGo Жыл бұрын
​@@SamuraiDeek The patents are all free and the repair centers are non profit. You are confusing company growth with greed.
@TechNextLetsGo
@TechNextLetsGo Жыл бұрын
Better than discovering relativity and they use your name to sell bagels.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
@@TechNextLetsGo yeah, who wants to tell him that was all BS, and their patent pledge was basically untenable to anyone with a lawyer?
@NicholasWalker-ej6ip
@NicholasWalker-ej6ip 4 ай бұрын
Transparent would be pretty epic!
@StanislavManilov
@StanislavManilov Жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry, aren't the coils lacquered to keep them isolated from each other? I don't think one could count just on the glue for isolation, but I might be wrong.
@jasonfournier
@jasonfournier Жыл бұрын
Each wire has to be insulated otherwise the coils would be shorted to itself as well. The glue is to keep it in place.
@StanislavManilov
@StanislavManilov Жыл бұрын
@@jasonfournier of course! Good point
@crashmasher
@crashmasher Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, There are actually wireless chargers for electric vehicles. Momentum Dynamics is currently charging bus fleets and taxis overseas.
@TOM-wb2tk
@TOM-wb2tk Жыл бұрын
that's quite a distance
@GrantBaumgart
@GrantBaumgart Жыл бұрын
"Still aint paying 7 bucks for Twitter, though." 😂
@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106
@rayonwilliamssportsandfun2106 Жыл бұрын
GONNA BE AWESOME WGEN JERRY DO THE DEBRAND top layer for that copper look 👌🏼
@jakethesnakelover
@jakethesnakelover Жыл бұрын
How’s the heat efficiency on this thing? If you have 3 devices charging, how long until it gets hot to the touch?
@MrArcticPOWER
@MrArcticPOWER Жыл бұрын
They do have wireless charging for EVs in Europe and they are actually pretty efficient. Bjorn Nyland did a test on one and it was more efficient than a plug in charger.
@rycable
@rycable Жыл бұрын
Source?
@philliplevinson2535
@philliplevinson2535 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there are home installs possible for the US, I think both WiTricity and plugless make modules for home wireless charging.
@sharky07xy
@sharky07xy Жыл бұрын
I saw the video a year ago. There is no way that wireless charging is more efficient. The person Bjørn interviewed is a salesperson. Wireless charging always adds more switching and transforming power.
@sharky07xy
@sharky07xy Жыл бұрын
Wireless chargers are a waste of power and copper, in my opinion. You can't really use your phone while charging, and the waste heat degrades the battery faster
@MrArcticPOWER
@MrArcticPOWER Жыл бұрын
@@sharky07xy The test they did in the video showed 2 things 1. Wireless charging can be pretty efficient done properlly 2. The conductive charger they tested had horrible efficiency Yes the sales person probably made sure to used a cheap transformer so his wireless charger looked better, but it still was impressive anyway. Sure, for the same price a wireless charger while never be as efficient, I'm just saying that it's possible to make an efficient one and that it already exists.
@MrUnknownXD
@MrUnknownXD Жыл бұрын
If $300 wireless charger doesn't charge teslas, i ain't buying it.
@christianmancia4006
@christianmancia4006 Жыл бұрын
Thought that’s what it did before I selected the video
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg Жыл бұрын
crazy nice quality
@joebojanic1905
@joebojanic1905 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a load meter? I'm curious if there's some logic inside that sends power to the coils that request it. Or does that whole thing just use 65watts the whole time no matter what's plugged in.
@jack.jjw13
@jack.jjw13 Жыл бұрын
I've had one of these type of wireless charging bases for like 2 years now. for about half the price
@nagyba
@nagyba Жыл бұрын
That power loss. Damn wireless chargers are more polluting than I thought.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
It did not seem like 30 coils really though once you started lifting them up. I wonder if some solder connections were for thermistors or something? Neat look inside!
@JB_Keycard
@JB_Keycard Жыл бұрын
i love zack's humor
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I died a little in my soul, every time you went to scratch up the hardware.. I do think a transparent version of this would be awesome! And instead of black, it should be colored Red so it goes faster.
@blueclipsa
@blueclipsa Жыл бұрын
Early gang???
@winatas
@winatas Жыл бұрын
dude i saw that tumbnail and instanly thinking you played "REAL DRUM" with all cymball setup like wtf LOL
@plageran
@plageran Жыл бұрын
people creating glass or perspex top panels should likely look into the venting of the heat. would be crazy to see it melt into the copper
@AMDERS17
@AMDERS17 Жыл бұрын
Lack of replaceable cable is a major deal-breaker for long term use.
@TheJLMDT
@TheJLMDT Жыл бұрын
In many ways (including what you mention), Tesla is the new Apple...
@jamieclaudeo8107
@jamieclaudeo8107 Жыл бұрын
Once you plug the charger into the wall, its probably going to sit there on a desk, bench, or nightstand untouched. So you wouldn't have to replace the cable like you would doing wired charging. Kind of like how a nightstand light doesn't need to cord replaced.
@nighthawk6468
@nighthawk6468 Жыл бұрын
@@jamieclaudeo8107 Yeah that's kind of a fair point, it would be nice to see them put a port on the back of the thing though, it's really not much work and would cost them pennies. The cable looks quite long too, it would be nice to be able to use a shorter one if you don't need the length. It's just dumb to have fixed usb cables on things these days even if they won't see much wear.
@garysgarage.2841
@garysgarage.2841 Жыл бұрын
So the 300 dollar price tag isn't a deal breaker?
@zxcv97
@zxcv97 Жыл бұрын
​@@garysgarage.2841 Compared to Apple lmao, If apple sells this sht they will price it at around 800-1k
@codingneet
@codingneet Жыл бұрын
It was exactly as I anticipated (finally I'm feeling that I'm an engineer) well to explain the concept in simple terms since they're using all those coils as sensors they can determine the exact position of the phone as mentioned in the video, after that it'll be just like a normal wireless charger so it doesn't really dissipate much heat What apple tried I guess was increasing the electromagnetic field which obviously would cause a lot of thermal and efficiency problems
@humairajamal85
@humairajamal85 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tear down. 65watts is not going poof when a device is partially using it though. It would only draw 65w when maximum devices are connected. This can be measured using a plugin energy meter.
@ZFusion
@ZFusion Жыл бұрын
Looks awesome!
@Suzumi-kun
@Suzumi-kun Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the efficiency loss still outweighs the convenience. Until someone finds a solution to the efficiency (which I doubt will ever happen) I will stay cables only until they remove them.
@nobro_i_ate_u
@nobro_i_ate_u Жыл бұрын
Yeah, imagine all of these coils, this must waste a lot of energy
@ittimjones
@ittimjones Жыл бұрын
When I was in college (13 years ago) I did a project for transmitting power wirelessly. Our end theory was that we could be able to embed the charging coil in a nightstand and one would simply place their phone on it to start charging. Can you imagine if we patented that? Anyway, we only got an LED to light up inside the field.
@WeChallenge
@WeChallenge Жыл бұрын
Seeing Nicola Tesla the inventor had already patented his power over air concept years ago, I doubt you'd have had much luck at the patent office.
@lunaticleone8534
@lunaticleone8534 Жыл бұрын
I love how he mentions now that someone else has done it, iPhone is going to to it🤣
@timmykisia
@timmykisia Жыл бұрын
Appreciation of how they managed all those induction coils with proper heat dissipation 🌝
@keonxd8918
@keonxd8918 Жыл бұрын
Other thing to note is that apple want it's wireless charger to be very thin, making it harder to cool
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv Жыл бұрын
Nope apple was trying a very different idea/setup compared to this free power thing
@treeoflife7151
@treeoflife7151 Жыл бұрын
How do you know what apple wants
@keonxd8918
@keonxd8918 Жыл бұрын
@@treeoflife7151 aren't there renders and prototypes clearly showing the direction apple wants to take with it's wireless charging pad? It's functioning, but in the long run it's going to bring out lots of issues, that's why they cancelled it
@quietc0smos
@quietc0smos Жыл бұрын
I can already imagine apple buying one of these and rebranding it for 1500$
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv Жыл бұрын
Nope apple will never do such nonsense! Apple will develop something that is actually smart and can communicate with the charging devices and even send alert if possible so you are wrong
@quietc0smos
@quietc0smos Жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv welp we got the apple sheep right here, bro also thinks apple invented wireless charging
@Just_a_random_birb
@Just_a_random_birb Жыл бұрын
@@quietc0smosI am an android fan and I'm going to say this with great regret.@carholic1336 is telling the truth
@matthewroberts785
@matthewroberts785 8 ай бұрын
The perfect blend of science and art. Wow, it's beautiful.
@erstezeile
@erstezeile 9 ай бұрын
From the thumbnail I thought you were playing the drum app and it was all cymbals LMAO
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