They didn't send you one did they Tony.

This camera is fabulous, massively underrated. Unfortunately many KZfaqrs are aligned with Sony and Canon so you don’t see this getting the praise it deserves. It’s an APS-C low light beast. The camera is so useable, it makes Sony look a joke. I think the Z mount helps with vignetting and edge sharpness too. I actually have the Z30 and I have had a lot of cameras, including Sony and LUMIX and this is my favourite. One thing I agree with, there needs to be more lenses, but the Viltrox line, particularly the 13mm F1.4 are awesome. Don’t believe everything you see on KZfaq!🤷‍♂️

The Z50 is a great DX Mirrorless body. You are totally wrong.

This is one of the best Nikon DX camera's ever made in my opinion. Even the kit lenses are really sharp. I just don't agree.

Couldn't disagree more with your general overview of Nikon's decision to bring APSC into their Z mount offerings. In my opinion this move strengthens Nikon's future, by having a single unified mount for both FF and APSC in the same way f mount does. This means only Nikon and Sony have this potential " upgrade " path. Some users of FF actually purchase APSC specifically for its crop factor ( sports and wildlife in particular ) so it's not so crazy to put FF lenses onto an APSC body. The reality also is most photographers who shoot FF now, started with APSC. Now I do accept that the Z50 could have been better but really it's very competitive as it stands against Fujifilms XT30 and Canons M series, neither of which offer any upgrade path to their larger sensor format offerings. I'm thrilled that Nikon are taking this route and if anything I'm more confident about investing in Nikon in the future. Currently my main mirrorless system is Panasonic M43, my main DSLR system is Nikon FF DSLRs. Nikons mirrorless system at present isn't there yet for me to wish to invest in. I think once we get into Nikon's second gen Z mount FF & APSC where it has matured with bigger native lens selection and features such as twin card slots, IBIS in all bodies and " proper " battery grips I'll be ready to jump in knowing I'll still be able to utilise my investment in f mount Nikkor lenses until, over time, I replace them with native offerings. Well done Nikon for doing the right thing for the long term I say! Nikon are seeing the mirrorless arena from a long term perspective. They have the mount to even venture into medium format if they so wish, imagine if they could offer APSC, FF and Medium Format with a single unified lens selection. That forward thinking may not reward them in the short term but may well make them the dominant player in the camera market.😊

Com'on man, test the Z 50 first, take photos/videos with it before you bash it into its core.

Turned out to be one of the best cameras ever produced by any company ever.

I remember I nearly didn't buy a Z6 cos of you. Thankfully I found other reviews, bought it and couldn't be happier. I do the opposite of your reviews, therefore I shall be recommending the Z50 to my father in law 👍

I think Nikon are doing the right thing as you can use the ff Z lenses and get a ftz adapter and use your dx lenses. Not everyone wants or needs a ff camera. I am definitely interested in buying the Z50

This is gonna be my first mirorless camera.

Actually I like the Z mount on APS-C. Some reasons. The huge size of the Z mount and its low flange distance has one huge advantage: it will allow very fast nifty-fifty equivalent lenses to be made. The F mount was so small and far away from the sensor that the fastest 35mm you could get for APS-C was an f/1.8. With the mirrorless systems, lenses like the Mitakon Speedmaster 35mm f/0.95 for Sony E have become available, and maybe with the Z mount one can go even further than that, such that the APS-C optics are finally becoming competitive to full-frame in terms of DoF. Also, with that slim Z mount a company like Metabones could make an F-to-Z speedbooster allowing for full-frame lenses to be used without waste on an APS-C body. And, from a customer standpoint, I like being able to choose to buy full-frame glass sometimes when I plan upgrading to a full-frame a few years later anyway, and also swap lenses between bodies easily. It saves me money. Nikon has been very good at keeping their system simple, therefore the Z mount is a logical step.

okay, you have 1.34M followers, with such a huge reach into the beginner photographer community and the ever decreasing pro community, you have a responsibility to deliver factually accurate videos. Please do your homework.

Hi Tony, redarding the Z6 and Z7, you said: "The Z6 and Z7 cameras need to drop down to five or six frames per second to really be effective". I disagree with your statement. Certainly, it was true before. But, since the firmware update v2.0 of May 2019, AE tracking has worked alongside continuous AF in both cameras highest-speed burst rates (up to 9fps (Z7) or 12fps (Z6)). So, basically, you absolutely do not need to drop down to 5.5fps anymore to do action photography with the Z6 or the Z7. In reality, now these cameras are really effective at 9fps or 12fps in AFC mode to shoot sport or wildlife.

I actually like the direction Nikon is going with Z50. I am devoted to my two D750s for professional use but am not ready to go Z6 or Z7. I’m several years off from upgrading; however, I am in market for personal use camera so Z50 could be gateway to Z mount.

I really loved the z50 as a filmmaker. If you want to try out Nikon or want a small mirrorles camera that has amazing auto-focus I would highly recommend it.

First off, this may be the very fist KZfaq video that I think I've disliked. Ever. Sorry Tony, but you're flat-out wrong about the Z50. 1. Using the Z-mount for DX bodies makes *perfect* sense. It increases lens availability (or rather, doesn't exclude the use of Z-mount lenses), and even if much of that diameter is wasted *optically*, you get that much more room for mechanical things like VR, collapsing lenses, powerful autofocus motors, etc. The 16-50 kit lens that was announced with the Z50 is minuscule compared to the old F-mount 18-55 DX kit lenses overall, even if it's a bit wider around, and the test videos I've seen of it show it focusing amazingly quickly. 2. As long as you're using good glass, there is absolutely no drawback to using full frame lenses on a crop sensor body from an optical standpoint. This is a myth and you seriously need to stop propagating it. Will a crop sensor showcase the resolution limits of a full frame lens more acutely than a full frame sensor will? Possibly, depending on the pixel pitch of the sensor, but a D850 or Z7 will highlight those same limits just as much as a D500 or Z50 will. Either way, that's an issue with the *lenses*, not the mounts or the sensors. Will an FX lens be heavier and more expensive than an equivalent lens optimized for DX? Yes, obviously, but until Nikon starts releasing DX glass that performs to the same standards as their pro FX glass, the FX lenses are still the best option. Plus, they're useful on a wider selection of bodies (unless you get your way). Worth noting: I use a 300mm f/4 on a DX body for sports photography and get results comparable to, if not better than, using a 70-200 f/2.8 on an FX body in terms of image quality. Good glass matters, and until Nikon starts releasing high-end glass in DX format, using FX glass is just fine. 3. I definitely agree that Nikon flubbed up the selection of lenses with the Z6 and Z7 launch. Nikon was going on and on about how compact the Z6 and Z7 were...and then released no compact lenses with them. A "nifty 50" equivalent would have been *perfect* to launch with. I think the two DX lenses they announced look right on the money, and I'm happy to see some less expensive lenses coming down the pipe soon though, so hopefully that will get better as time goes on. 4. There's plenty of reasons why making a mirrorless F-mount body is a *horrible* idea. First and foremost, the flange distance (distance from the image plane to the mount surface) for the F-Mount is just as massive as the diameter of the F-mount is tiny. This is the reason why you can't adapt most other 35mm lenses to Nikon without hacking off part of the lens body or using corrective optics. If you want to actually be able to use existing F-mount lenses on a mirrorless camera, you'd be forcing the camera to be considerably thicker than it would need to be otherwise to accommodate that massive flange distance. Or, if you just want to keep the physical mount and forego compatibility, you'd create even more confusion than you complain about existing because FX and DX mirrorless cameras share the same mount.

Every reviewer who actually tried the Z50 liked it. I guess I trust the opinion of someone who held it in their hand more.

Usually I agree with you, but when I don’t, I REALLY don’t. I bet the z50 sells well and helps the Z series grow to the masses. Also, I use the fast frame rate with my Z6 and it’s fine. I don’t understand why you need to slow yours down. Must be your reliance on automatic modes. One last thing, quit judging folks who use FX glass on DX bodies while at the same time recommending the D500 200-500 f/5.6 combo. Thanks for all your hard work as always but I have to let you know when you I disagree.

Hi Tony, are you really serious when you said: "I will bet that the results from the kit lens won’t even look as good as the stuff you get from the iPhone"?

Very disappointing video. I normally like the reviews, but I just cannot understand why he is so negative about this camera and Nikon lately. I think it is a brilliant move by Nikon to introduce the Z50.

Nikon is obviously going with the Z-mount across the board with all of their cameras. So in a few years it will make no difference.

I think the benefits of having the same mount outweigh the drawbacks. The mount is bigger, yes, but the camera is still extremely compact. You can invest in great glass instead of using all of your budget on the camera body, this is what I think everyone should do.

Wow, Tony, you have really gone of Nikon hey. All your videos are starting to show it now. Let's remember this is a starter's to a medium camera for low-end mirrorless users. In Australia, it will cost about $1000 less than the Z6. Some of us aren't your level yet mate. Think back to when you started making awesome technical videos which were 95% fact (experience and knowledge) and 5% general feeling, they were really good videos.

I love the Z50, and the idea of the one lens mount for both sensor types that Nikon has to offer. Now Nikon can focus on getting lens out and they will work on all cameras they offer. Makes sense to me and it will be less confusing for newbies starting in photography.

The Z50 is the camera Nikon had to make. To get new users into the Z there needs to be a relatively cheap upgrade path like Sony and not some sideways shift like Canon’s M.

Tony, Have you had the camera in your hands? It seems like some harsh comments without actually having touched the camera. I noticed that several hands-on KZfaqrs were amazed at the size - as in "it's small". Like smaller than a D500. Honestly, your comments are on Nikon's business plan. In that area, you may be right. I have no idea. My guess is that the target audience for this camera would only ever need the two lenses Nikon released with it. I used some of the Canon M cameras for a few years but became frustrated with the lenses and what Canon's lens plan was for the camera. I was also frustrated by the form factor - it was too small - when it's too small my smartphone is ultimately a better option. That's for me of course. I think the Z50 price point is very competitive with Sony and Canon cropped sensors. But you don't really address that. One more point - Sony gets much praise for one mount - is it a bad idea that Nikon might ultimately want to end up in that same place?

I own two D750s and just bought a Z 50. It is an amazing little camera! While I'll probably keep my full-framers for paid jobs, I'll be taking my Z 50 with me everywhere else. It's also going to replace my Panasonic GX85 for video work.

Nikon Z50 climbs in the sales charts in Japan: In the past few weeks the Nikon Z50 camera has moved up to the #1 spot at the BCNRanking (12/4, 12/11) and #2 spot at Map Camera.

Feels great to see you burning when you said Nikon Z6 is a flop and then over the year it kicked your views out of the stadium!

In many cases I usually agree with Tony but in this case I have a different opinion. I think Nikon is right in continuing with its tradition to use the same mount for its DX and FX lines. Canon use different types of mounts for their APS-C and FF cameras and they are often getting bad press because of that fact. I think the ability to use DX and FX lenses in an APS-C line makes it easier for customers to grow within the camera brand. They can do this by investing in FX lenses that they can simultaneously use on two different types of cameras. During a transition period, of course, the availability of native Z-DX lenses will be limited, but it is perfectly natural when you have an ongoing technology shift. Nikon has the FTZ adapter, which allows current F-DX customers to use their lenses and gradually make the transition as new lenses are available. So I definitely think Nikon is on the right track by continuing with the old tradition of having DX / FX in the same mount.

Hey Tony. I HAVE this camera last week on my hands and I love it - it's small and fits extremely well in the hands. I like that it has the same mount because I'll use the FF Z primes anyway. And I'm sure that someone will make Nikon F/Canon EF/etc. to Nikon Z APSC speed booster which will be in my opinion very interesting option for these cameras.

This video just reminded me why I quit watching Tony years ago.

I live in the APS-C world. All my cameras are crop. I don't print large format. I think this is a good compromise for those of us who want to go mirrorless, but don't want to spend a fortune.

Sorry Tony . Agree with you most of the time, this time I am sorry to say I don't. This is camera is no different then the ridiculous body size that is on the Sony A6000 series cameras. I do think Nikon did a smart thing and used the z Mount and not wasted time and development around another mount. Yes the lenses are going to be bigger, but look at the crazy size lenses that go on the Sony A6000 bodies. The Z Lenses are extremely good lenses. So I am hoping that will carry over to this camera as well. And if you look at Jared Polins Review, the Z mount lenses are proving to be extremely good.

As an amateur photographer I absolutely love the z50 in 2022. This camera is not a huge mistake. Its a great little camera! Best in class ergonomics, easy to carry, produces best in class video and pictures with amazing colors, two incredible sharp kit lenses with stabilization, access to all cheap and great f-mount lenses via the adapter, costs a fraction of what the full frame cost. 99% people would not be able to tell the difference between the z50 and a FF pictures. Sure-its not a pro camera but its not pretending to be one. This video did not age well.

“You get less sharp images than if you were using a full frame camera” can you please prove that?

I am doing it purposely, but I love taking full frame Nikon lens's and putting them on my lighter D3500. I wouldn't do it for extremely heavy glass, but taking say a 50mm FX Prime and adding the 1.5 crop makes an amazing portrait lens for a hobbyist. Sometimes its just fun to tinker :)

Sorry, this video is just waste of time because you are wrong. Yes, there are still no lenses available but this was valid for all new lens mounts. For me the Z50 makes sense not just for consumers but also for Nikon. Some people don't want a full frame even it would be equally priced than APS-C. Let's wait how this will develop.

Strong opinions need solid arguments Tony, and you don't have any.

1) Using the same mount on all cameras is amazing and a big win for Nikon imho. 2) Z50 is almost half price of D500 and has most of the performance (more if low light focus is a concern) 3) It’s a great intro to the Z system especially for people who like wildlife and macro. If you want a full frame Z you’ve got loads of options 🤷‍♂️ All Z cameras including the Z50 are extremely well put together and feel great in hand.

Remember Sony a few years ago. People complained about the lack of Sony lenses... And then, today, plenty of Sony lenses. So... I think the first two lenses available for now are part of the most frequently purchased lenses by APS-C owners.

Mostly disagree, Nikon must commit to Z mount now on, even though this will take some time to have a full catalog of lenses.

I guarantee he's never said that about Sony.

2 years have passed. The possibilities to choose a lens for Nikon Z50 are huge. There are TWO FTZ adapters at the moment, not counting 3rd party company adapters. There are cool lenses from Nikon, Viltrox, 7 artisans, it is possible to connect any lens matching Nikon F system. Also, Nikon Z50 received a powerful software update boosting its eye-AF performance and capabilities.

For the money, it’s a brilliant camera and beautifully designed. They got their marketing spot on too. This camera is gonna bring thousands of new enthusiasts to Nikon. And they can all upgrade to full frame mirrorless later. I’m very tempted to buy one as a backup, for video, etc. The “wasted glass” argument is a red herring too because modern glass resolves so well anyway. This camera is gone sell like hotcakes. I still love you Tony, but ya wronnnng 🤷🏻‍♂️

let’s remember guys, remember when Sony mirrorless lens selection was ass too. It get better overtime

Nikons "huge mistake" is #1 in Japan now .. lolol Just shows YT content creators are disconnected with their audiences. ;p

Making an F mount mirrorless would be a HUGE waste of body space. All the F lenses are made to accommodate that extra mirror length, so in mirrorless version there would be just unnecessary empty space

Tony, I believe your thoughts are far out. I really believe in the same mount for every sensor. I believe in the FTZ adaptor. I believe I can buy FX or DX F mount lenses and use them with both the F and the Z mount. I really like the D500 and the D300/s cameras, I really like the D850/D810/D800E cameras. What a joy to have FX lenses and use them with all these mentioned cameras! And now I can use them with the Z mount with the dedicated adapter! And when they produce a Z mount camera as I wish ... then I will turn! Meanwhile, you really support as an argument, among other similars, that someone purchased a D850 and did not know that had to use FX lenses and not DX lenses? And this is something that the manufacturer has to adress? Come on!

I guess.... If you want to find something to dislike, you can allways find it, even if it's reaching....

Yes, that FX 200-500 lens on my DX D500 is so much less sharp than on my FX body and that 60mm FX macro, on my FX camera it is just soooo much sharper..... NOT. These days these youtubers are all about quantity rather than quality and facts, they just make up their "facts" as they go. Also, aps-c lenses use half the light WTF? Do these lenses have special filters built into them that filters out half the light or is that just another "fact". In the past it was said that the aps-c sensor only captures "half the light" which was BS, and now the aps-c magically only uses "half the light".... I think the real issue here is that you cannot see past full frame cameras, the problem is not the camera, it is you.

Now that the first reviews are coming out, it is even more embarrassing to look at this video. Nikon is starting to show that they have a very clear strategy for both ML and DSLR, that both systems have their place and followers, that the F mount with its big legacy of lenses will coexist with the new standard in photography the Z mount. The same with Canon. Sony is trying it's best to discredit the DSLR as they lack way behind in the amount of users that come with this legacy and in both cases will be able to use both systems not as competitors but as two systems with specific applications and users preference. Many Nikon users want a smaller system for traveling light or daily use, but do not want tp compromise the benefits that the big DSLR bodies and FX lenses offer for their work. Arrive the Z6/Z7 and Z50 and whatever the future will hold. this means less people would want to sell off their systems to get into Sony with its excessively expensive big glass.

Jared Polin probably would hold his hair watching this video hahaha

I have to say, everyone is free to their own opinion. That said, I don't see a problem with Z mount and I firmly believe its an advantage to have one mount to rule them all. Why? Because then you can have a cheap backup Z50, or you could use your Z50 for travel and your Z6/7 for work. And you can use all your lenses with both cameras. Because you can buy a cheap Z50 and lenses, to later upgrade to full frame. And so on. See Canon, their M mount is useless and forgotten. Resale value on lenses isn't great, because there aren't that many people interested in the format. And there are close to no second party M lenses. Lenses being huge for the Z50 isn't true, Nikon announced 2 new lenses and I'd guess more will come. Problem number two: it's actually easier to shop knowing you only have to look for "Z" mount. Try doing that with Canon... Problem number tree: any new system will have problems with lens selection. You have converters, but native lens will take a couple of years to pic up. That's true for any brand.

Just bought this camera It’s absolutely amazing so easy to to use.

I would counter these negatives as follows: finally a mount/sensor ratio large enough for serious tilt/shift. And they already have this incredible 58mm/0.95 portrait lens with the bokeh potential of a full frame ~90/1.4. And all the lenses in the world with the F2Z adapter.

Well I very disagree this time. Your statement are really wrong in my opinion. The nikon move was the most logical and best money saving, now and for future. Canon move to use two different mounts and have basically a dead Aps-c series with few lenses was the most illogical and silly to do. the technical aspects you are mentioning are extremely extremely technical, and 90% of beginners not even know the differences between a FF or Aps-C camera if not only the price, at least during my courses. They have the idea of a good camera, small (and Z50it is) and that's all (oh yeah,...of course sometimes with high MP). But a travel camera like this I guess for them will be certainly useful and lenses will come out in a while. I agree the price a bit too high as usual in Nikon.

F-mount is definitely not the future. The new MILC from Nikon will be more and more equipped with high density sensors. And the new Z lenses absolutely destroys F lenses in resolution. No Tony that’s a bad idea.

I've added a Z50 to 4 full frame and cut frame Nikons. I've shot Flat Track Roller Derby for about ten years as well as nature and landscapes. I'm accustomed to the difficulties shooting fast action sports often in low light venues. Focus with the 70-200 f/2.8 has been quick and pretty accurate. That lens does very well on the Z50, but the 50-250mm kit lens is amazing. I've shot birds and wildlife with very good focus acquisition and a high percentage of very sharp "keepers". Shooting birds in flight is very similar to shooting "jammers" in a dark arena. I'm going to add the Nikon 200-500 for an extended time in Costa Rica this year. My only complaint is when using my SD700 flash for subjects like Hummingbirds, I can not use the viewfinder and only have the back screen. I've dealt with difficult focus issues for years and this camera is excellent and fast whether using the 70-200 or the kit lenses. I've used a large variety of F lenses. The only issue was that some (like my Nikon 200mm f/4 macro) don't auto focus so I only use it in manual focus and move the lens for focus like all my macro work. The flash operation was a bit quirky and took some time to get working to my satisfaction, however. I've been a Nikon shooter since the 1960's and Tony needs to take the Z50 out and shoot with it before the negative comments.

My reaction 🙄.. he's getting really unreliable and bias!

There's literally 0 reasons to bring the F mount into a mirrorless body, since without the mirror you'll need to have the same flange distance, in order for all those old lenses to fit to your new camera. If you don't, then you have glass that it's mount compatible, but not compatible with your camera because of the shorter flange distance. Both ways you're pointlessly fracturing your lineup with 2 mounts, the way currently Canon are doing it with their R and EF-M mounts.

it's no mistake, just late to the party. Having another mount.... are you frigging joking? Their pancake lens is small which kills your argument, it's not hard to make a large mount lens to taper in.... it's not exactly rocket science. Short term confusion, long term bet. having FX and Crop lenses on one mount has existed for decades

Z50 images with ANY Z mount lens are stellar. And, had you actually tested it, you would know the Z50 kit lenses are very sharp. You’re clueless.

Very good video mate. So what apsc camera would you buy that had decent lenses at decent prices?

Tony, I rarely comment on camera videos however I feel compelled to comment on this video. Unlike Jared Polin or Chris Nichols of DP Review who did a reviews based on several hours with the camera, you have not used the camera, so everything you say about the quality of the lenses, image quality and handling is total speculation. I take exception to you calling out Nikon for a single lens mount for both APS-C and Full Frame when Sony and Canon do the same thing. If Nikon is guilty then so is Sony and Canon. I trust once you get a chance to conduct a real world hands on test you will provide a proper review rather than speculation. However , regardless of what either you or I think, ultimately the market will decide if the Z50 is a good product or not. For the record I have a D300S with 3 DX Lenses and a Nikkor 55mm 1.2 and I see amongst my options as either a Z50 + FTZ or used D500 both will cost about the same and both have Pro's and Con's.

Looks like you do not like Nikon. Having same mount is absolutely perfect strategy and Sony is benefiting out of it. I use Sony and have both sensors. The great benefit is of using same FE lens even on crop sensor. I think you were more critical than really required. This looks to-be a very good entry level camera with good value at this price point.

One mount for all models, that was a very good decision. Less sharpness ? Really ?? Z Mount, one mount that allows APSC, FF and MF Sensors. Good move NIKON !

Get the adapter and you've got hundreds of F mount lenses to choose from. I'd be recommending a beginner do that because they could get better glass for less money than any other system out there. Nikon has made all their lenses able to be used on this camera, Canon hasn't done that on their mirrorless and the others (like Sony/Fuji) charge a fortune for their good glass. I predict that this camera will be extremely successful.

Dunno what is with the criticism of the large mount. just design a lens for apsc and then add a wider attachment point.. really not an issue Tony is making this out to be. The attachment point is wide but overall the lens can be small and maybe even jut in like the old efs lense on the ef mount.. *SHRUG* . Nikon is actually doing what I stated in this comment. If you look at the 2 APSC lense released you can see the inner lens barrel are actually much narrower than the mount base.

Nikon is doing the right thing with the Z50. The Z50 is not there to introduce users to Mirrorless. It is built to introduce more people to the Z mount. I think there have been many videos/articles about how the Z isnt selling that well. A cheaper option is a good idea to get people introduced to the ecosystem.

This video looks beautiful! Tony could you please tell us the camera and lens you used to film this video? Thanx.

Can I send the jpegs to my phone and edit them with Snapseed to post on Instagram and Facebook.? Then it is a good camera for consumers who want to step up from a phone.

This going to be great to use next to a Z6.

As I said before, I have placed a preorder on Z50 and I would like to explain why i did that. The main reason is that it is lighter and compacter. I intend to use the camera for filming 4k videos on the go. I travel a lot and i travel light. More often than not with the cabin luggage only. With this body and the small kit lens i can use the smaller (and cheaper ) gimbal, like Zhiyun m2 instead of twice as expensive and three times bigger models for fullframe cameras. SD cards are way cheaper than XQD, four-five times cheaper to be exact but still do what is expected from a memory card. So what's the point, why spend more? I do not require 10 bit 4:2:2 colour coding. Simple 8 bit is more than good enough for 99% of the population including me. And 8 bit can be edited on a moderately powerful laptop, no high end editing station required. You see, Tony, I know what I need, I need the smallest and lightest set possible, that will still ensure a good quality, maybe not stellar, but very good. Something that I can submit to a micro-stock agency and not get rejected. And Nikon knows that there is a lot of people like myself, and they have announced the camera for me, Tony. This one is not for you, it's for me. I will buy it and I know that I will be good enough for anything I could ever want to do with it. So please tell me Tony, am I really making a HUGE mistake by selecting the gear that all combined weights two times less, costs four times cheaper and gets the job done? Is the mistake that I am making really worth capitalizing every letter in the word HUGE?

I have never disagreed more with a video of yours before. 100% disagreed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a mirrorless f mount would be useless. You can't change the distance between the flange and the sensor and expect older fmount lenses to focus properly. It would just be a d7500 with no mirror, not worth investing R&D into.

Well. You can say the same problem to Sony. They made a tiny Aps-C mount and put a fullframe sensor in it. ;) I think Nikon did a better job here.

make 2 mount is bad idea, using old mount is even worse

Well, this is one of your rare videos that is not aging well, IMHO. When my friend asked me what to buy I recommended the Nikon APSC over the Canon APSC precisely because (in part) one can use the full frame glass Z natively on the Z50. Furthermore, the two APSC "kit" zooms have quite good image quality. Take the Z50 with two kit zooms, each having vibration reduction, then over time add a Z series 85mm f/1.8 for portraits and done. Maybe the 50mm f/1.8 or 24mm f/1.8. And a Flashpoint flash. On the other extreme, a pro can toss a Z50 into a bag with other full frame Nikon Z gear and not miss a beat. Note that Nikon's initial full frame primes are relatively affordable f/1.8's (compare to Canon's full frame mirrorless mostly over $2k due to f/1.4, f/1.2).

6:30 Tony mind explaining this more? I use FF lens on Sony's apsc and the results are fantastic (85mm 1.8 on a6400). I have to disagree with the statement that FF lens on apsc body produces bad results. The only drawback I can find is bigger lens.

Seriously Tony? Come on man you're better than that

Tony . If Nikon put the F-mount on the mirrorless camera, They would have to make the mount very thick ( or the camera) to have the same distance between back element and sensor. This can be done with the F-Z adapter that is already available.

Awesome idea, Tony! I’d definitely consider purchasing an updated, basic version of a Nikon Df that supports my wonderful collection Non-AI and AI lenses. I think a digitalized FE or FA form factor at 20 mp is really interesting. Personally I’d do away with a rear screen altogether and rely only on an EVF. For what I do, the simpler the tool, the better. My Nikon FM is a joy to use.

I have been using Nikon for the past 10 years and my first one was D7000 and i still have with half a dozen lenses and also own Z6, i am happy that Nikon listens to their customers and sticking to unified lens mount rather one based on the sensor, i have met few wildlife photographers who are using Nikon owns D5 (FF) and D500 (APS-C) but we wonder why coz APS-C sensor on D500 gives little more zoom and less processing power on the sensor read-out making way for deeper buffer. I love the 16mm flange distance on the Z mount, may be in future we will have adapter for drop-in filters, techart has released adapter to use sony lenses with autofocus, more possibilities with the new Z mount, D500 users can try Z50 with FTZ and still wont lose anything, easier transition is very important when a company designs their product.

Saying that the Z-mount is a total waste on an APS-C is a little bit of an oversight in my opinion. It's not the diameter that matters. It's the flange distance. Both FF and APS-C can benefit from that. Based on the actual Z50 reviews that are out there, the 18-55 DX Z mount lens appears to vastly outperform the 18-55 F mount lens. The F-mount is going away. Nikon developing new products for it does not fit well with their strategy. Also, FTZ adapters can be found rather inexpensively. I think the one valid point you made here was that the lack of IBIS on the Z50 presents issues if a person wants to buy a better S lens. Unless they develop DX primes on the Z mount, this will present problems later on down the road.

Tony has been drinking? Dx body should be used just with dx lenses? Dx cameras produces less sharp images? What?

What difference does the size of the mount make if the camera remains small?

I would love to see a follow up to this in the form of a review of the Z50? I was almost convinced not to buy a Z50 but then fortunately decided to do so anyway as an upgrade to the D3400. Best decision ever. For those of us who only have F mount DX glass this is an amazing upgrade in image quality and overall performance. (When using the FTZ adapter of course) The high ISO noise of my D3400 really bothered me, and the Z50 made this SO MUCH better. Then as a bonus I get the awesome autofocus, video and I can use either the F-mount or the Z-mount lenses in the future!

10:03 no nikon f mount lens is made for sensor based af, so the performance would be like using it on mirorless with an adapter.

For this price there is alot that is ok for me

If I step up from my current D5600 this is one of the cameras I would look at (along with Fuji’s X-T30 probably). There are good offers now in the UK that include the DX lens adaptor heavily discounted, which other reviews state works really well. Presumably they had their reasons for installing a crop sensor and it seems very good value for money.

This video is a HUGE mistake.

F mount on a mirrorless camera would make the body too deep then you wouldn't be able to adapt for other lenses.

Tony, first your are giving an opinion on a piece of gear you haven't even apparently touched ! Everybody seems to agree eye detection on the Z50 is really good (maybe not quite as good as other brands but good enough anyway). Now talking about mount decision, it's true that a F mount would have given immediate access to existing DX lenses (and FX) but this is short term vision. In a conservative company like Nikon I they think long term and profitability! In in the long run people won't even remember the F mount apart obviously from older customers. Young people don't really care I guess. Nikon also want to cash money, so a new mount is a good way for it. Let just hope they will develop better Z DX lenses as most in the F mount flavour are not quite top of the range. Time will tell. Now, customer interested in loog telephoto zooms or primes will be happy to mount them on a Z DX mount to gain extra reach! Or do you want them to buy a new adapter? So, I don't think they made a mistake if you consider a long term strategy. Plus the Z50 is just the first APS-C body. I guess they will soon launch a more "pro" body (plus probably an entry level one), more suitable for video with headphone conector and IBIS and here is where a larger mount is welcome even if you're going to tell us "they made it in the Z6/7 format" ;-) So in my opinion you are suffering from 1) a short term vision, 2) not thinking from a financial Nikon perspective. With this new Z50+2 kit lenses they are going to attract new customers by hundreds of thousands, especially before Christmas holiday and maybe Black Friday. This will give them cash enough (I hope) to develop other lenses and bodies both in the full frame format and APS-C one.

Hi Tony. What about using the Z50 with the adapter and the Sigma 18-35mm? Don't you think it's a good option for someone who already has some quality APS-C lenses?

Had mine since the first batch shipped on the 7th. Love the size and weight for EDC. Can't wait to go on vacay with it. With that tiny 16-50 pancake kit lens it fits in many smaller and inconspicuous places, like fanny packs, small shoulder bags, and even large coat pockets, so you don't need to bring out a camera bag with you. Based on the FroKnows video, I'll probably pick up a 14-30mm F4 soon. Only 1.1lbs! Compared to a nearly 2lb f2.8 in a similar zoom range.

Having a mount in common with the full frame Z cameras makes much more sense than making the crop sensor an f-mount. It makes things simpler along the line. And the lack of lenses, well what do you expect, for Nikon, or any camera company for that matter, to release a full range of lenses right off the bat? That would be a huge undertaking, and not very practical. Start off with a few, like Nikon is doing, and add more as time allows, is a very reasonable expectation.

I am surprised about the level of scepticism in the video. You mention quality aspects of the Z50/DX lenses (also compared to a smartphone). Did you test them already?

The Z50 is a great idea. We can expect to see some other Z APC camera’s I can imagine a Z40 that omits the EVF with say a 23mm pancake and you have a pocketable high quality street camera. I’m not in the market for a camera, but when I am, I will give the Z-line-up a look, including the Z50.

Well, I am not a professional. Bought new canon LS2 few months ago, worked well for me. Then bought Z50 about two weeks ago. Huge difference, amazing pictures, easy to use Compared to Canon, and the most important is ; amazing in the low light area and indoors. in a very low light indoor this Z50 worked like a magician without flash, you see the ISO increase and decrease while getting the perfect picture with no editing, yes amazing, I respect Tony I like his previous videos, I don’t agree with him about Z50, Its a great Camera.