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The Nikon ZF: The Camera The Olympus PEN-F Should Have Been...

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Darren Miles

Darren Miles

10 ай бұрын

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@BeingWolfy
@BeingWolfy 10 ай бұрын
The style, brass dials, and metal top/bottom plates are what did it for me. The sensor will be great too.
@Johnny-Aloha
@Johnny-Aloha 10 ай бұрын
I am a FM3a shooter so I jumped all over this camera and pre-ordered on day 1. If the Zf is a huge seller, I can see other manufacturers bringing out retro inspired cameras.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
100%
@timryan894
@timryan894 10 ай бұрын
If STYLE didn’t matter to consumers, the fashion industry wouldn’t exist.
@Isaac________
@Isaac________ 8 ай бұрын
Very apt commentary. The Zf excited me a lot. For my taste, it's a bit too big -- I would have loved if they were able to keep the size of the Zfc despite the bigger sensor. Micro four thirds shooters are still hoping for these two new cameras every day: - A Pen-F II (the downgraded E-P7 doesn't count) - A GM6 (GM5 successor with updated internals)
@enigmabletchley6936
@enigmabletchley6936 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Fuji shooter and I am going to comment (hehe). Firstly, great to see you posting again, Darren. Your opinion and experience are worth listening to. Sheesh, that Zf is setting my pulse racing. Even though I am wedded to Fuji (two bodies, 10 lenses covering everything from UWA to long telephoto) and have used the system both professionally and for leisure, I have to say I was pricing up an alternative system based on the Zf about 5 minutes after watching the first review on KZfaq. Fuji bodies are great (I have the X-T4, X-H2S) the glass is superb (Fuji do not know how to make a bad lens) so why, why, why, do I want a Zf? Maybe I need therapy!
@doogieham
@doogieham 10 ай бұрын
Maybe you want the Zf for use with 35mm vintage lenses? It would complement your Fuji system if that’s what you used it for. Sorry, I’m not helping you avoid hitting the ‘buy’ button am I?😊
@enigmabletchley6936
@enigmabletchley6936 10 ай бұрын
@@doogieham You hit the nail on the head. All those lovely, if not optically perfect, vintage manual lenses from Nikon. Not quite the same if you mount them on a cropped sensor body like the Fuji but on this camera I am going to assume perfect.
@DucNguyen-jy3gi
@DucNguyen-jy3gi 10 ай бұрын
Nikon's color science is second to none. Couple that with a full frame sensor and 8-stop IBIS plus good AF and I would say it is a huge improvement over the X system.
@MandrakeCigars
@MandrakeCigars 10 ай бұрын
"A computer with a lens attached to it". I always felt this way about Sony mirrorless bodies.
@yophotodude7693
@yophotodude7693 10 ай бұрын
Good video. You did gloss over some other really important features. The new AF-linked IBIS is a first. I don’t know many cameras from any maker that claims AF to EV -10. The IBIS going to 8 stops is pretty big. For video shooters, this is the first Nikon with zebra stripes. And inherited wave form from the Z 8/9. They packed a lot of new goodness in hear that makes this a big upgrade to the Z 6II
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Fair points all, the ibis link to the focus points is definitely innovative, to me, that’s nice, but it wouldn’t be a primary reason why I would buy the camera… Video shooters do have a lot to be happy about, totally agree…
@yophotodude7693
@yophotodude7693 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMiles potential buyers should be looking at the total package but many times it will be just one feature that pushes them to hit the purchase button. Or in my case enough features. The IBIS thing is cool. I’m glad to see Nikon get a first. But the better lowlight AF along with the Expeed 7 AF features, the flippy screen and the style caused me to purchase it. I have a Z 6II to back up my Z 9. It only gets used for video or when I need a second stills camera and I rarely even use it then. I’m not one of those “AF is everything” photographers but the Z 9 really makes it hard to want to use the Z 6II which I loved until I got the Z 9. I know I will have an easier time vlogging with the Z f. I don’t want a flippy screen on my main camera. I think it’s too fragile for hard work and I don’t like it off center of the lens. But for the Z f I’m good with it. With it having feature compatibility with the Z 9 AF I’m hoping that will make me want to grab this camera first over the Z 9 when speed or excessive cropping isn’t needed.
@edwardphilipmarianafzger9800
@edwardphilipmarianafzger9800 10 ай бұрын
He nice to see you again for a very long time at least two years I still shoot with my Nikon D800 and with this I am going to jump into mirrorless Z mount the zfc was on my mind almost bought it a yr ago but happy that I waited .btw I always wait one year before buying there were to Many/or at least some bugs in the last body's . I have for the moment just two Art series lenses that I use 20mm f1.4 and the 105mm f1.4 art f mount and oh so happy with those beauties .
@brucekraft744
@brucekraft744 10 ай бұрын
I got my first 35mm camera (a rangefinder) in 1965. Retro styling has great appeal to me so far as appearance goes. However, the ergonomics of a proper retro style camera really seems to make handling more intuitive as well. I don't know if it's really a difference or not, but it seems like it. I expect there is a Zf in my near future.
@photographydiscourse1185
@photographydiscourse1185 10 ай бұрын
Hi Darren - I think your style point is correct, but I would have to disagree on the notion that this camera is not otherwise better than a Z6II (a camera that I also have and use regularly). The Zf includes some upgrades that are very significant: 1) This camera has the Expeed 7 processor which enables vastly superior low light AF, AF tracking, and ISO range as well as advanced features like noise reduction in the mid tones. 2) They have added more focus points to the sensor in AF Auto Area mode so that the points extend to the very edge of the sensor frame. 3) They have added skin smoothing and portrait impression from the Z8 - although I am a RAW shooter in most circumstances - this feature has allowed me (on my Z8) to literally do head shot work for working Hollywood actors, and send JPEGS straight out of camera to agencies that have remarked at how good the shots are. 4) They have improved the IBIS to up to 8 stops and more importantly have added a feature to center the IBIS on the focal point - this is revolutionary and I hope they bring this to the Z8/9. 5) Manual focus assist is improved in a significant way in that you can detect the eyes in MF and then zoom in directly on the eye to see if it is critically sharp - this is a huge work flow enhancement if you ever shoot manual focus lenses. 6) They have added serious video upgrades - internal NLOG and 10 bit video - this is huge! 7) The vari-angle screen - many consider this an upgrade - it certainly makes doing video of one's self much easier and although I prefer the method employed on Z8/9 for vertical shooting in photography, I can see how a hybrid user would favor this screen - my guess is this is the screen that will be in non-pro UI cameras (i.e. Z6/7/f and down) from now on and the Z8/9 screen will be the screen for the pro UI cameras. Anyway, there are some others I know that I am forgetting, but I would say these 7 are more than enough to definitely say that this camera is a significant upgrade from the Z6II - in fact, I would say that if this camera had a CF Express B slot and SD, a deeper grip and could do 4k 60 in full frame instead of crop, it would literally be an awesome version of a Z6 III. This last point is exciting because it begs the question as to what additional surprises the Z6 III might bring to us when it is released next year! (likely in April/May). -PD
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
I did mention the new processor and the AF from the Z8/Z9 which admittedly is significant - I don't shoot jpeg and I shoot a lot on a tripod so the IBIS improvements, though nice aren't a make or break feature for me, but I can see clearly how they would/could be for others depending on what you're shooting, but now that you mention it, I am curious about this portrait option and I totally passed over it in the description likely because I mainly shoot RAW - I'm almost nervous about shooting JPEG - can you shoot RAW to one card and portrait enhancement JPG to the other? Someone else mentioned that the slowest shutter speed on the Zf is 1 second? There has to be some kind of mode - like on Fuji - to go beyond 1 second shutter speed. I need 30 seconds, and sometimes 60 - which the Z6II does have built in. Everything you mentioned are all great and welcome features, thank you for taking the time to write!
@photographydiscourse1185
@photographydiscourse1185 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMiles Hi Darren - yes, my comments were not meant to be critical at all - I have watched your channel from time to time over the years and I think you make good content and are a competent photographer. So, I am also a RAW shooter and for any "real" work would still use the RAW files to do my own edits. That said, for quick stuff - like head shots or casual shooting, I have to say that the skin softening is really cool - it basically does some skin smoothing for you baked into the JPEG, but it is smart enough to not soften the eyes - only the skin - there are three levels for softening, low, normal, and high - so far I just used normal and thought it was a nice amount - not too overdone but definitely smoother than reality. The Portrait Balance Impression is something that I have not delved into much because I don't intent to use the JPEG's for much of my work - just quick stuff like the head shots, but from what I understand you can fine tune skin tones using slight variations of hues to dial in the perfect color for any skin - seems really cool but also more work than I am willing to do as I would just use the RAW file to edit for something this involved - but the skin softening is simple - just set it and run. Yes, you can shoot RAW to one card and JPEG to another and the JPEG will have the skin softening etc - then you can compare the skin on the RAW to the JPEG to dial in the amount low, normal, or high that you want. Also, I should mention that you can also use skin softening in video - so that is pretty dope. You can also just shoot RAW and JPEG to both cards and separate out your RAW and JPEGs after the fact in a program like Photo Mechanic - but this is just if you want to be redundant with your RAW files. The slowest shutter on the ZF is 30 sec and you can go in the menu and extend to 15 minutes just like the Z6II - it's just that you can't access the slower speeds from the manual dial on top. -PD
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
No worries, I didn't take your comments critically at all, there's no "tone" in these comments - I thought you made some excellent additional points that actually helped bolster my initial emotional response to the camera - I feel even better about the purchase now :-) I assumed there was a way to get more than 1 second - so glad there is. I am really curious to try out the portrait skin smoothing thing. Looks like Nikon is adding some AI into their cameras - similar to what smart phones have been doing for awhile. It's exciting, but I don't want the camera to ultimately do everything, but I like these "smart" enhancements to the cameras.
@lacsarlacsar3566
@lacsarlacsar3566 9 ай бұрын
Pen F is still the sexier one, Darren. The color/BW Dial is really fun to use.
@annarakannan6620
@annarakannan6620 9 ай бұрын
Welcome back Darren. I was lusting after a full frame Pen F also. Won’t happen. Stunning looking with horrible performance. Then came the Zf. I ordered one. It is in back order. Did not even blink. I was a huge fan of the Olympus IBIS. The gold standard. No one even comes close. I have a feeling the Nikon Zf IBIS maybe just as good. That pen F is the most beautiful camera ever made. I wish they had at least put in the OM -1 sensor on it with their best IBIS and a better VF and a screen for a mark 2 if not FF. I would have bought it. Or they should have joined the L Mount alliance and gone for the kill. They missed a huge opportunity. Look at X100 V. You can’t even get it.
@carlmcneill1139
@carlmcneill1139 10 ай бұрын
Style definitely matters. But looks by themselves or not enough. How it performs is a big factor and this camera performs. Nikon could have come out with a retro z6 II body and most people would have been happy. Most of us didn't see the specs of this camera coming. This is basically a retro z6 III. Or at least a bridge between the z6 II and z6 III. The z6 III may have 30+ MP and a few other things added. If I was looking for a dedicated street photography camera, this would be it. I use my z6 II for that and it does fine. My next camera will not have screen blackout in burst mode which means I have to save up for the z8. I don't think the 3rd gen z6/z7 will have stacked sensors because of their price point. It would be nice if they did.
@MrPetebuster1
@MrPetebuster1 10 ай бұрын
totally i have it on pre order and the sony fx30 for a similar reason along with the sony A7IV for most things
@Photojouralist123
@Photojouralist123 10 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts I pulled the trigger and ordered a ZF I have the Z9 and Z8 but the ZF brings back yesteryear for me
@daysofgrace2934
@daysofgrace2934 10 ай бұрын
Darren my E-M10 + grip have been doing this for over 10 years - stylish retro SLR. Style sells just ask Leica. The Pen F is a range-finder style body and has a grip issue as all range-finder bodies do (including the Leica RF, Q2/Q3 etc), unfortunately style isn't always comfortable. Hopefully OM System will dust down the E-M10 mk II body for M10/M5 mk V. They have updated the AF algos & the sensor in M10 IV...It's good to see you..
@Galeidan
@Galeidan 10 ай бұрын
I like this Nikon ZF quite a lot. Just missing two things in my honest opinion... Higher res sensor (around 33 - 45 would have been ideal) and selection of those retro style lenses. 24, 28, 35, 50, 85 and 135 mm lenses (retro design, not like other Z system lenses) Personally I would have left video out completely to keep price down.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
I agree with this, the Nikon Z lenses are in general - especially the f/1.8 versions - very pedestrian looking - aesthetics matter, I wish they would make the lenses look more like Fuji lenses - the Z lens barrels are VERY utilitarian... ugh.
@peterjohnson1845
@peterjohnson1845 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMiles yes, I agree with this as well,.they could do with releasing some 'actual' special edition lenses, maybe a set of 3 lenses, nice metal build, aperture ring specifically for the ZF
@PaulPadoan
@PaulPadoan 3 ай бұрын
Style changes how you feel and operate the camera. I have never been happy with moderne styled cameras.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 4 ай бұрын
Perfectly on point: why Apple sold so much in the last 10 years, despite the countless drawbacks? Style and intuitive use. This from someone who despise Apple deeply, but credit has to be given where it's due Market is not made just by spec nerds that weight every single crumb of feature in a product. Yes, demanding professional are willing to pay and won't care for an product if it does if it pays the bill, but you are not drawing new costumers on an ugly and unconfortable product. People, the large majority of them, just ask for functional products, well built, that don-t look like prone to fall apart. They don't look at specs, how many FPS they can shoot, how deep the camera can dive, how many stop of light they can recover in post: they want something that feels good in the hands and looks good. Why the PenF failed? a broken Firmware at launch (bad reviews) and held back features in an expensive product. This is where Nikon is succeeding.
@jamesmlodynia8757
@jamesmlodynia8757 10 ай бұрын
What say me,I'm right with you, I have cameras from Panasonic, Pentax, Olympus and Fujifilm, full frame, APSC and micro 4/3.i take a camera almost every where I go, I photographe many different subjects and was involved in event photography for a number of years. I now have gone back to photographing wildlife and landscapes, I only do events for family. The ZF is my first Nikon and last camera that I will buy. A while back I bought a lightly used Fujifilm XT3, it's a camera I wanted for a while, I just love how the camera works, I passed on the XT 4 because of the screen, when the XT5 came out I picked it up and was not looking for anything else until the ZF. it reminds me of my late Uncle's film Nikon, so having a full frame camera that is similar to the Fujifilm XT line is hard to resist.
@MichealBeaulieu
@MichealBeaulieu 10 ай бұрын
Man, all I have to say is that I NEED a shirt like that with my own name on it. Thanks for the style inspo Darren
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Hah! Thanks!
@MichaelRelevant
@MichaelRelevant 10 ай бұрын
What is up with this audio? Is there an aquarium behind the camera or a water slide or some thing?
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Mentioned it in the beginning, plug in mic - yuk! The pitter/patter in the background is rain - it was pouring outside...
@morgankarno7335
@morgankarno7335 10 ай бұрын
One draw back I see with this camera is the fact that when camera is off you can feel the ibis clunking around inside because it does not lock down like all other nikons, and in a haptic world, feel is as important as style. Also the lack of stylish lenses hmmm I could just adapt my ais lenses?
@walkingmeditation61
@walkingmeditation61 10 ай бұрын
Your main point regarding style being the reason Nikon produced this camera I I agree with. I don't like that the second card slot is a "micro" card and the camera with its style gets lost when you attach any other Z line lens to it, all the Z line lenses except for the kit lens becomes a contradiction in style when attached to the new ZF. It also requires a grip accessory to hold comfortably with say the 100-400 Z lens. This camera needs a compact Z line of primes to go with its "style"
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree! The current z line by in large are a style contradiction. I suspect the camera will sell considerably better than what Nikon has planned, and hopefully moving forward Nikons new lenses will follow a similar trend - as the new kit lens - they got the function part down with the z lenses, they just need to improve the form.
@walkingmeditation61
@walkingmeditation61 10 ай бұрын
Auto Focus is the main reason Nikon got smoked in sales by Sony/Canon now that most of the world switched because auto focus is why people want a mirrorless their market share is tiny, Nikon needs a Z6/3 with the Z8 AF in it for the wildlife/Sports crowd ASAP never mind the ZF with one lens that looks good on it @@DarrenMiles
@jaydigshistory36
@jaydigshistory36 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting to hear your views on this
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 10 ай бұрын
I agreed with you about the PEN-F pro. When I look at the Nikon I don’t see a replacement for the PEN. I think it looks like something Fuji would have made. It looks like like a full frame X-T5. It will be a hit with Nikon shooters. But, I don’t see it as a replacement for a PEN-F. I also don’t see many Fuji shooters dumping their X-T series cameras for this.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Basically agree, my point was the Olympus actually blew it with the PEN-F, it looked beautiful, it performed mediocre at best. They needed style and substance. To me, the Zf is both - that said, I’ll know for sure when I actually get my hands on one…
@DucNguyen-jy3gi
@DucNguyen-jy3gi 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMiles I have the Pen-F, the OM1 (film), the Nikon F1, F2 and FM2. Used to own a Zfc as well. The ZF has amazing specs but the design proportions don't do it for me. I think the Pen-F is many levels above the ZF in terms of looks though it is 7 years older with a 4/3 sensor. In fact, it looks even better than the film Pen-F which is a very rare feat! I do get very decent photos from the Pen-F with the new 20mmF1.4 which is small and super sharp.
@starbase218
@starbase218 10 ай бұрын
The good thing about the Zf is, there's nobody who doesn't like it. It would be a good, no, a great camera without the style. Expeed 7, great AF, 8 stop IBIS, pixel shift, touchscreen to move the focus point. And then it's styled the way it is. It scores highly on pretty much every metric. It is 24MP, and for some that is not enough. But honestly, for the vast majority, it is. There are question marks like how it will handle with larger lenses, and how convenient the dials work. And these things are perhaps relevant, but they don't detract from how much people like this camera.
@lensvana
@lensvana 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! A bit offtopic: do you have any tripod head recommendations for real estate? Are pan/tilt worth the trouble?
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Yes I do! - I used to prefer the kind of tripod head that would let me adjust one axis at a time, but then a friend introduced me to and later sold me a Really Right Stuff ball head - and honestly, I haven't looked back, they're A M A Z I N G ! ! ! But expensive - I'd look to find one used at KEH, B AND H or MPB....
@lensvana
@lensvana 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMiles Thanks! RRS stuff is expensive but I don't mind buying once and crying once :) Looking into the BH-40
@anthony-qm3pn
@anthony-qm3pn 10 ай бұрын
Do you think OM systems should bring out a monochrome Pen F II camera?
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see an Olympus PEN F with much greater capabilities… The primary ones honestly being better battery life, an updated sensor, a dedicated button for AF, yet maintaining that retro classic style… I still contend what will differentiate one camera company from another moving forward is going to be the style of their cameras, and I think the ZF is the epitome of what I’m describing. Sadly, I don’t think OM systems has the budget nor the sales to justify creating a new model around a revised pen F
@terrywbreedlove
@terrywbreedlove 10 ай бұрын
I sold all my Olympus Pro gear and switched over to Nikon FF. I still have my Pen F but it is having some issue. So looks like the ZF will become my smaller street camera. Long time MFT shooter loving the FF IQ by the way.
@splootan
@splootan Ай бұрын
What issues are you having.., I'm thinking of getting one.. thanks
@terrywbreedlove
@terrywbreedlove Ай бұрын
@@splootan It was the Kit Lens. It stopped communicating with the camera. I have two new lenses and both work great now.
@splootan
@splootan Ай бұрын
@@terrywbreedlove cheers Terry, just acquired one, with the 17mm 1.8, it's a beauty 👌 thinking of getting the 17mm iowa lens though
@terrywbreedlove
@terrywbreedlove Ай бұрын
@@splootan loved my 17mm 1.8. Keep thinking to buy another
@splootan
@splootan Ай бұрын
@@terrywbreedlove is that the kit lens in question... the one you had issues with!?
@h.e.verheijden8083
@h.e.verheijden8083 10 ай бұрын
Olympus has done it with the 10 serie. A PEN F hasn’t the film camera look like the 10. It looks compact camera style
@peterjohnson1845
@peterjohnson1845 10 ай бұрын
What colour did you order?
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Black - ordered it before I knew Nikon had it as an option on the NikonUSA site - if I get another, it'll be orange or blue.
@USGrant21st
@USGrant21st 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Nikon shooter, but Zf is the least attractive camera for me. They made two fatal mistakes. They made a heavy body without a grip, which requires a third party grip attachment to make it useable, making it even heavier. I have several vintage Nikon SLRs, which are cute, light, and small unlike Zf. Second, using articulating screen is a total disaster, no photographer wants that. They had a chance to make a really good retro camera and they screwed that up.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
I am curious to see how the camera handles - thought he Z6 may not be the most attractive looking thing, it does feel really good in the hands.... At least it does mine... The lack of grip on the Zf is something I am a bit concerned about, but I'll likely get the small rig grip when it's available.
@USGrant21st
@USGrant21st 10 ай бұрын
@@DarrenMiles why not to wait for Z6iii then, you wouldn't need that third party grip and the whole camera will be lighter and better in hand.
@glennsak
@glennsak 10 ай бұрын
The Zf is a chunky boy and looks like a challenge without a grip.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
That's fair, I will definitely be ordering the small rig (or RRS plate/grip) when it becomes available.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 10 ай бұрын
I agree. OMDS certainly missed a trick. Now it is too late to jump into the bandwagon. It has moved on. So sad.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Sadly, I think you are correct...
@marcoseirik
@marcoseirik 10 ай бұрын
I disagree. What OM-System (formerly Olympus) needs to do, is to take the guts from OM-1 and fit them into the body of the E-M5 mk.II, keep the price less than $1500 and be done with it. I don’t like the Pen-F’s rangefinder style body form factor.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 10 ай бұрын
They already have done that. It's called the OM-5.
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 10 ай бұрын
@@TL-xw6fhno, the OM-5 has the guts from the Olympus OMD-EM1 mark III.
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 10 ай бұрын
Lovely Camera the Zf BUT it takes SD Cards = SLOW = a waste of Xspeed 7 capabilities. , Also I do Astro and need Shutter Speeds of 20 Secs at least >> The Zf only goes to 1 Sec about !! then you have to use Bulb >> wheras the Z7 and Z6 go to 30 Sec and the Z9/Z8 and Z7II and Z6 II go to 900 secs .. A Door stop in my life unfortunately
@BernardSolomon
@BernardSolomon 10 ай бұрын
The Zf is not meant to be a fast shooter imo. A more capable Df is the way I see it.
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
That’s a great point, because that also handicaps nighttime Real estate Photography as well… Which is one of the primary reasons why I bought this camera, and it’s one of those things you kind of just take for granted, that is assuming a modern camera would have a 30 seconds shutter option…
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 10 ай бұрын
@@BernardSolomon then why the Expeed7 & Processor ala Z9/Z8 ??
@BernardSolomon
@BernardSolomon 10 ай бұрын
@@Mr09260 for the auto focus is my best guess. A fast shooting camera will require some nifty ergonomics which is not where the Zf is going to be strong at.
@mafianoodles
@mafianoodles 10 ай бұрын
you been away for so long bro
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
I know, working my way slowly back…
@WhiskyRidge
@WhiskyRidge 10 ай бұрын
Hundred percent.
@CianMcsweeney
@CianMcsweeney 10 ай бұрын
Its not just retro styling, honestly, any semblence of style on modern cameras would be more than welcome, other than fuji and leica all the major players have the fugliest cameras ive ever seen. Fujis new gfx 100 ii is a good example of a modern stylish camera
@DarrenMiles
@DarrenMiles 10 ай бұрын
Totally, TOTALLY agree!!
@richardhaw9757
@richardhaw9757 10 ай бұрын
olympus will die a slow death...just because of that financial BS that they did. they almost got delisted in the Tokyo stock exchange.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 10 ай бұрын
They no longer make cameras, but OMDS does.
@ricohflex777
@ricohflex777 10 ай бұрын
Olympus is DEAD. It deserved to die because it refused to make Full Frame cameras. Olympus lectured consumers that a ridiculously small Micro 4/3 sensor camera is all they would ever need. M 4/3 was quite acceptable in 2008. But is a totally worthless sensor format in 2023 and in future. Nikon ZF will KILL the Fuji XT market. Fuji extremely stubborn insisted on not making Full Frame sensor cameras. Now Fuji derserves to die as well. Nikon says to Fuji { I can do Retro better than you }.
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