The No 4, Mk I* Lee Enfield: Musketry of World War II - Advanced Snap Shooting

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britishmuzzleloaders

britishmuzzleloaders

5 жыл бұрын

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In this video Mike from Bloke on the Range and I tackle a surprisingly challenging "walk down" shoot from the late war period...
Mike's version here.... l. l.php?u=https%...
For more info on the ammunition have a look here.
archive.org/details/youtube-9...
The Vickers MG Site (for the Manuals)
vickersmg.blog
Bloke on the Range
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@spottyskunk1898
@spottyskunk1898 5 жыл бұрын
One of the things I love about your vids - the sense of humor, and the effort you've taken on being clothing accurate.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
As accurate as is practicable... yes... In the end, the clothing matters nothing, when it's the shooting that is the focus. Clothing is for "atmospherics" only.. :-)
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 5 жыл бұрын
That's possibly the greatest opening you've ever done and that's saying something. No baby Jesus nooo.
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
With a Prvi rimjam too!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alistair! We had a good time filming it.
@mordechaifrancis73
@mordechaifrancis73 3 жыл бұрын
@Anders Kristian Yup, have been watching on flixzone} for years myself :D
@oof4918
@oof4918 5 жыл бұрын
1:58 British soldier testing out Mac prototype 1940 colorized
@eiclanlan2854
@eiclanlan2854 5 жыл бұрын
In our service rifle club in Perth WA we did a walk up from 200. Bayonet and helmet. 3 rounds prone at 200, come to the port , advance to 150 2 rounds sitting,reload 5 come to the port advance to 100,two rounds kneeling then advance to fifty and fire 3 rounds rapid standing. Some of the young fellas would then charge and bayonet a sandbag,to much yelling for my liking. But a lot of fun.☺
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Sound like a good time! Cheers.
@danieljennerman7549
@danieljennerman7549 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, more British muzzleloader on the range. Both of your content are educational and entertaining.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers.
@Sheerwater909
@Sheerwater909 5 жыл бұрын
Rob and Mike out on the range. Gee! S-H-O-O-T-I-N-G! As ever, educational, entertaining and informative. It sent me to the cabinet to stare at the silver spoon I won at Bisley more than 45 years ago! Thanks Muzzleblokes! :D
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it John! Thanks.
@camerondunn6258
@camerondunn6258 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you two are having way too much fun there😁.. I really think you need to complete the trifecta by getting Gun Jesus (aka Ian McColum) to join you! All jokes aside, keep up the great work.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It would be grand to come together like that...
@simonlaws6863
@simonlaws6863 5 жыл бұрын
another great video keep up the good work think you guys should have your own tv show 👍🏻
@robknight2625
@robknight2625 5 жыл бұрын
Great video guys ,considering that it was just two of you. Mate experenced key holing at 300 yrs with non military factory rounds fired through a martini Henry 303 from 1910 . Told mk7 projectiles with flat base are more accurate in no1s after the British spending £2000 000 on the development. Haven't come across any stories on this yet. Keep up the great work.
@slaughterround643
@slaughterround643 5 жыл бұрын
"Like the hand of god" hahaha classic I may sound like a broken record but this is invaluable work you're doing here lads
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Happy you got the reference!
@theoldehandgonne2503
@theoldehandgonne2503 5 жыл бұрын
​@@britishmuzzleloaders And may god strike me down were it to be otherwise! *cue lightning bolt* Love it. Again, we appreciate the sterling work!
@jimf3932
@jimf3932 5 жыл бұрын
The two of you are performing a great service to shooters and historians. Keep up the great work!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Very kind. Thank you.
@paulmauser5076
@paulmauser5076 5 жыл бұрын
Super vidéo, j'adore le lee enfield n4 .Bonjour de france.
@stevenbest1550
@stevenbest1550 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is an awesome video, I Would like to run a service match in Australia with our number 1 rifles as we never began production of the number 4 rifle down under, and your videos are so unbelievably helpful. thanks mate this is just brilliant Rob , just brilliant indeed.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Steven!
@99IronDuke
@99IronDuke 5 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite historic firearms/military history channels together. Probably not totally relevant, but in the 1980's British Army (armed with the SLR) we were trained to advance with the rifle in our shoulder if a contact was at all likely.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! That position certainly becomes more prevalent from the 1950s onward... WTM No 7 is the first instance we have found of it's teaching.
@grendelgrendelsson5493
@grendelgrendelsson5493 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great! My two favourite gun-geezers making me laugh!! Cheers lads!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@vickersmg
@vickersmg 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks once again for referencing the website - it's Vickers MG Collection & Research Association by the way ;o) A bit of a mouthful I suppose.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Most welcome! Whenever I can, I will! Thank you for your work, as well.
@leighneil
@leighneil 5 жыл бұрын
Great work Rob and Mike. Clearly, the British army learned the hard way that, in a lot of cases, targets exposed themselves only very fleetingly and that existing snap shooting doctrine was not up to scratch. The Australian army was to also learn this in jungle warfare, were the ranges were even closer, as little as 5 to 15 yards.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Like everything, evolution happens... I suppose that practical experience by the end of the Great War produced some very good snap shooters... at very close ranges... Here, I don't think that the existing snap shooting schemes were deficient, they were good fro what they were... shooting at range... (the rifle Course of 1942+, featured snaps at 200 and 300yds) This practice just reflects a "hole" in the skill set.. snapping at closer (though not necessarily "close quarters") range. Moving into the jungle, troops would have become good at what they needed to be good at, depending on where they were and the circumstances they found themselves in. The same could be said for all Empire troops fighting in the East.
@billymillz1367
@billymillz1367 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly love this collaboration you guys were made for each other
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
That is very kind. One day, we'll have the time of more collabs!
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын
The dynamic duo! Well done! Now I know where the 50 meter “Fast Freddy” came from in the current course of fire. Fast Freddy is only up for 3 seconds
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
OK.
@isengard1500
@isengard1500 5 жыл бұрын
10/10 video, the landscape, uniform and information is top content. Will look forward to your new videos.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mrplague9881
@mrplague9881 5 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. You two make a great duo.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed every minute of it!
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@fhsreelfilms
@fhsreelfilms 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent collaboration, gentlemen! Thanks for this video.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@billymillz1367
@billymillz1367 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love all the collaboration .
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@user-wo2iw3kt8o
@user-wo2iw3kt8o 3 ай бұрын
Hi from Pennsylvania buddy Jeff. Awsome video. I absolutely love my 303 British rifle. Now I'm gonna poke some fun. Just think if the British and Canadian were armed with theM1i grand. . I have one . Mine is a Springfield. A 1952 . What a sweet lady she is. The germans would haven't. Made it 2 months.. and I think my 303 is a better rifle than my 1903 rifle. Both are very accurate. You guys are awsome. 😊 God bless😊
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 3 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@andrewsims4123
@andrewsims4123 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful tache , perfect "face furniture" for the period 😀
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Haha! Cheers!
@Bloatlord_the_Magnificent
@Bloatlord_the_Magnificent 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding quality as always. You put big TV networks to shame.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers. It was the consummate team effort, this.
@robertmccardle5113
@robertmccardle5113 3 жыл бұрын
add another twist firecraker to emulate the target shooting back...... " nothing more exhilerating than being shot at without result" Winston Churhill. thanks lads great video.👍
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 3 жыл бұрын
Sure.. you can come and light it... 🙂 Haha!
@robertmccardle5113
@robertmccardle5113 3 жыл бұрын
l love too lol. 🎆
@joma4452
@joma4452 5 жыл бұрын
The production quality on these is improving all the time, I'm impressed! Did not peg you for a Mac user ;) Cheers!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that had some sort of connotation.....
@harrynr32dn
@harrynr32dn 5 жыл бұрын
Bloke. Report to the class room after school and write out 1000 times. "It's a battle sight, not a ghost ring". Great vid!!
@tge6564
@tge6564 5 жыл бұрын
Can you just make a full firing line of you shooting the No.4 Mk 1 that would be awesome
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
If it is something that would fit into a video , yes, of course... those composite shots take a ton of work and ammunition...
@aaairsoftmedia
@aaairsoftmedia 5 жыл бұрын
im gonna say it. you to have a war time comedy about the brothers, the sargent, and all while being educational and entertaining.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
That is SO much composite work.... :-).....
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 5 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up, really interesting
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@ThomasTheWise2103
@ThomasTheWise2103 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the intro xD I'm loving these videos I'm learning something new everytime
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Cheers.
@Yeandle31
@Yeandle31 5 жыл бұрын
"Advanced piece of paper" I laughed way too hard at that!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@shonny61
@shonny61 5 жыл бұрын
Good shooting!
@fisherchanKSK
@fisherchanKSK 5 жыл бұрын
Love you guys channel
@steamengineshooray
@steamengineshooray 5 жыл бұрын
Your editing is getting better and better :D I too am a fan of the large aperture, it just seems more comfortable when acquiring a sight picture. In a firefight or a standard engagement with adrenaline pumping and shots going everywhere I would expect the side with the fastest time to acquire a sight picture would come out on top~
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say that would depend on much more than just a sight picture... :-) But yes... it does what it says on the tin....
@dblaandy
@dblaandy Жыл бұрын
Good work!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrishewitt4220
@chrishewitt4220 5 жыл бұрын
Lost my breakfast coffee at 15 mins! Thanks boys...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad the comic relief had it's desired effect...
@theoilandgasresourceportal2132
@theoilandgasresourceportal2132 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@thesutcliffe9209
@thesutcliffe9209 2 жыл бұрын
Great fun, looks fascinating to have a go at, would be interesting to see you do HOME GUARD training comparison
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 2 жыл бұрын
There might be some interesting bits and pieces in there, yes.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 5 жыл бұрын
I did the Static Mechanical Range at Puckapunyal in the 90s and this walk was remarkably similar to the walking advance we did at the end. Firing the Aussie made, Inch pattern 7.62 SLR bang stick at the almost last gasp of its service career with the Australian Defence Force and the Aussie made Aug Steyer beginning to be seen by Reserve Units. Most of SLRs I handled had 62 or 63 series butt numbers and so were a few years older than me. I liked the SLR, except when marching, and if the infinity scope for the Steyer could have been fitted to the SLR it would have made the rifle even better.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@briandenison2325
@briandenison2325 5 жыл бұрын
I’m jealous of that mustache.
@lieutenantkettch
@lieutenantkettch 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect Mike shaved for this series because he couldn't hope to equal the magnificence that is Rob's facial hair.
@danklvac4746
@danklvac4746 5 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@danklvac4746
@danklvac4746 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Maybe you should do a match comparing some rifles - just an idea if you ever run out of any
@curlywhitfield8100
@curlywhitfield8100 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dennisgilliam2809
@dennisgilliam2809 4 жыл бұрын
You two are just too enjoyable! This coming from a guy that has shot the same No. 1 Mk III* for over 60 years. Dinna fash, laddies as there is a Faz No. 4 Mk2 here too. If you're close to AZ sometime, stop by, I'll buy the beer & bullets. The tam is just too cool, where can one obtain same? Most heartfelt thanks, Dennis
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! We certainly had a great time making it. The ToS is from What Price Glory... More kit info in the "Kit" series on the Channel, if you are interested.
@PunchCatcher
@PunchCatcher 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the really high caliber (no pun intended) work you put out on a regular basis. You've managed to strike a fantastic blend of detail research, technical discussion and a sense of humor that appeals to the inner 12 year old in all of us. I can't wait to see what's next. As someone else posted below I think it would be interesting to see you do a collaborative with Forgotten Weapons and InRange. Ian and Karl have run SMLEs and seem to have far more problems than you do. I think it would be interesting to see you run one of your rifles in one of their 2 gun matches down in Arizona. I also think it would be interesting them to run some of their stuff up in your part of the world. Cheers!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear that you enjoy it! Yes, a cool collar with them would be good. They both have incredible schedules though.... Thank you.
@PunchCatcher
@PunchCatcher 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Thanks for the reply!!
@georgetompkins5438
@georgetompkins5438 5 жыл бұрын
great vid. just subbed.
@hamm6035
@hamm6035 5 жыл бұрын
That was great guys! I love the content of these collaborations. I'll have to remember the rope for the targets. Put the wives to work so to speak. HAHAHA.
@DavidBrown-cp2vm
@DavidBrown-cp2vm 5 жыл бұрын
I was taught that the "battle sight" that stands up when the "leaf sight" is lowered was for 100 yards or less.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. That is it, although with some awareness, it can be used accurately at farther ranges...
@545x39Rat
@545x39Rat 5 жыл бұрын
Fastest like in the West
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
We try...
@MrSlitskirts
@MrSlitskirts 5 жыл бұрын
Great clip and subject, even today with modern weapons whether it be an Assault Rifle/Carbine (either 5.56mm or 7.62mm), Semi-Auto SMG (HKMP5), or Pistol it would still be a challenge. Also Mike ("Bloke on the Range") looks better without the beard, it suits you...I also like your continued use of the more realistic way of carrying the rifle whilst on patrol as per WWII photos instead of the Post-War versions, it's far more likely given combat theatres like Italy and the jungles in Burma where you may be trying to move through urban rubble or jungle tall grass/thick scrub, unless you are about to enter a house or similar it's unlikely you'd have your rifle up high into your shoulder as it's too heavy to hold/carry for long periods of time. Lastly I guess it's possible that this Snap shooting technique is connected to the Close-Quarter Combat shooting in your other clip in concept and creation. Kind regards.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
All great observations! Thanks for sharing.
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 5 жыл бұрын
Splendid work Rob and Bloke. From the BD fit I see that the Bloke is not friends with the CQMS. Also he is sponsored by 'Fox's Glacier Mints'.
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
BD came in sizes of "too big" and "too small". This one is just right in the sleeves for my long gorilla arms, but is a little loose in my pigeon chest! :D
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 5 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange You would be happy with that were you promoted. Space to store your field glasses and map under the BD blouse.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. We had a great time working on the projects...
@jakebrowncollection1772
@jakebrowncollection1772 4 жыл бұрын
Great video just one thing though the position the rifle is being held in some of the practices while on the move I believe is a more modern way of holding the rifle as it was drilled into the men at the time to hold the weapon in a certain way to elevate the weight and strain of carrying the weapon.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
As mentioned in the video, the technique was prescribed in late 1944.... men with the training would have probably come into the line sometime in 1945....
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd say a Mac is a step backwards from a piece of paper... Trollface.jpeg
@neriksen
@neriksen 5 жыл бұрын
You must try to come to Australia. Have a look ( Google ) our Lang Lang range, Eagle Park range and Military Rifle Club etc in Victoria. Would make for a very fun and interesting trip for you both. Great video.... 👍🏻
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
I'll get there one day... :-)
@blancsteve4819
@blancsteve4819 5 жыл бұрын
Jolly good show. You might investigate servo technology to move those targets. Its easy peasy.
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
The nearest electrical outlet was probably 25 km away ;)
@blancsteve4819
@blancsteve4819 5 жыл бұрын
Rob's brother is a terminator...(from the second movie)....plug it into the battery :) @@BlokeontheRange
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! We used that technology,... it's called an "Armstrong Servo"...
@davidlowry8765
@davidlowry8765 4 жыл бұрын
The Canadian Armed Forces has Personal Weapon Test III where infantry do a run down with snap shoots at the end.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@ThunderBuddy
@ThunderBuddy 5 жыл бұрын
I have a good feeling that you two should make a video with slow mo guys. I don't know why but I just think the banter would be great.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
That would be fun, yes,....
@TimothyRuggles-hx6qx
@TimothyRuggles-hx6qx Жыл бұрын
Love the show from N Y USA
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marcinnowakowski997
@marcinnowakowski997 5 жыл бұрын
Damn! you're so much unthinkable good in those videos, that I had to immediate hit the subcribe button just like I've been shooting with Enfield No.4 But I have to admit that you're carrying Small Pack a little bit too lower that it should be carried. But everything else is fine. Thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Things may not be "just so" here, but remember, the video is about shooting.... not about kit.
@marcinnowakowski997
@marcinnowakowski997 5 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders Yes, indeed. And you're the best in what you're doing, and I'm not the only one who thought like that! There's a lot of books about those rifles, but by your vids I can see and get faster understand this particular topic. I've seen a few other passionates, but here I can sit and watch with pleasure because of your's BD P37 and the rest of stuff. P.S. I have original canadian P37 blouse from 1943, to reenact 1st Can Para Bn :D.
@geegaw14
@geegaw14 5 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic, entertaining and informative video Rob. Thanks for the great work that you do with your channel. Can you please solve a dispute for me? A buddy and I have an ongoing argument about where you film your videos - are you on the Island or the Mainland?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.. I film all over but mostly near a secret country mansion known as....... "The Meadows"..... :-) In al seriousness, I have filmed in many locations in BC (and Alberta of course...)
@Apalaceboy1905
@Apalaceboy1905 5 жыл бұрын
What a weapon, fired it in the eighties on a sniper range
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@hankshepherd2.086
@hankshepherd2.086 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are lucky the Lee Enfield no4 mk1/2 is my dream gun
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
They are out there...
@notarokescientist3003
@notarokescientist3003 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until he discovers there is an entire section of brothers
@johnn8223
@johnn8223 5 жыл бұрын
Based on this video, I am now completely convinced that Baby Jesus is a menace and should be stopped at all costs.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Just spread the word about proper terminology and all will be OK... :-)
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 5 жыл бұрын
I was convinced of that already after Mr. Plinkett got obsessed about his portrait of sweet Baby Jesus.
@alanbrooke144
@alanbrooke144 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a remarkably modern range practice, it is essentially a simplified version of the current NZ Army annual weapon qualification.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Certainly, to a point. This the first instance of a 100 yd "walk-down" we have been able to uncover so far...
@48vdcwrld
@48vdcwrld 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative, who new you had a twin?
@davidbriggs264
@davidbriggs264 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloadersThere should not be any shame associated with someone plugging their own channel in the comments to one of his videos.
@lieutenantkettch
@lieutenantkettch 4 жыл бұрын
Rob's clone army strikes again.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
They're everywhere....
@jarkliev
@jarkliev 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and shooting! Was rifles safety on or off while walking?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 2 жыл бұрын
Off, as they would be historically.
@the51project
@the51project 5 жыл бұрын
...will the new Laurel and Hardy please step forward.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@ninjaturkey100
@ninjaturkey100 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it, time to make a sporterised tactical Snider-Enfield. Jesus told me.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Oops,..... someone else say "Mk 4".? It's funny, as I was reading the passage, I was looking at the part that referred to the "Mk 2" backsight.... it stuck in my head just as I went to refer to the rifle.... perfectly timed guffaw.... :-)
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. One gets the impression that most military rifle training until the 70s or later was just simple shooting at a round bullseye. According to some second-hand information, the US Army started adopting more realistic training after ww2, but I've not read the actual primary sources. I have read the US training manuals from the late 60s through the 80s, and it is interesting that the manuals are almost word for word the same despite going from a mass army of draftees to a professional 'highly trained' army of volunteers.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Figure targets were the norm for all Empire/Commonwealth musketry in WWI. This changed in the 1920s with the introduction of bullseye (or rather "tin hat") targets... half way through WWII, they went back to figure targets... 50 60s and 70s all saw the use of figure targets with the most common being the Fig 11 from the 1950s (IIRC)..... can't comment on US practices.
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Interesting that the Brits 'regressed' between the wars. Also it is just very interesting watching this series of yours just how modern the British training was over 100 years ago. I suppose it helps when you have a small professional army, but the US had a small, professional army during the same period and had far poorer training standards. Heck, even to this day a lot of the US Marines rifle training is based on the assumption that all wars will be fought on the Camp Lejune known-distance range. I just found your channel and you have amazing content. Keep up the good work good sir.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 Thank you!
@scottorgan2255
@scottorgan2255 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite long neck is the lithgow smle no 1 mark 3* with a 1945 stamp on the butt my brother and i have all the reloading equipment for British 303 the number 4 is just an upgrade to the smle that we didnt get in Australia
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
The No 4, is an "upgrade", yes.... but not a modification.... it's a whole new rifle...
@rafe5556
@rafe5556 5 жыл бұрын
Where can I get this advanced piece of paper?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Mac Store...
@Qardo
@Qardo 5 жыл бұрын
Don't do it! It is a trap!
@sirupate
@sirupate Жыл бұрын
So how do you use the numbers on the Leaf sight?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
Set the sight to the range and shoot?
@Sir_Godz
@Sir_Godz 5 жыл бұрын
which one is the puller and which is the shooter? not that there is anything wrong with either
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Alternating..... I know, it's complicated...
@michelguevara151
@michelguevara151 4 жыл бұрын
I'd very much like to see these exercises performed with the team from inrangetv over a few days with some assault applications
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
A matter of logistics and time...
@michelguevara151
@michelguevara151 4 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders comportment and adhering to regulation achieves objectives. Discipline, Sir! I dare say Lindybeige would relish in participating with the historical accounts perhaps enlisting them in the Glorious 78th in all manner of correct missmatch dress. really getting your productions crisp and bristol
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
@@michelguevara151 Cheers!
@bmoney2011
@bmoney2011 5 жыл бұрын
top intro.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers.
@randym6439
@randym6439 5 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a bio of paratrooper general Jim Gavin. In it he describes the 82nd division in training before leaving for overseas. He recounted that the division was visited by 82nd division MOH awardee, Alvin York. In the biopic of York, Gary Cooper portrayed York as a sharpshooting mountaineer from Tennessee. He was. York, however, told them that most of the shooting they did was quick shooting usually from the hip. The 82nd incorporated this advice into their training and became quite proficient at it. The Germans found this out as did the Russians. Yes, the Russians. Gavin said that during the joint occupation of Berlin, Russian troops would often emphasize a point in conversation by pulling out a pistol and firing it into the ground. They learned not to do this around the 82nd's veterans. The vets weren't going to wait and see what the intended target was and they were quick and relatively accurate from the hip with M1 Garands.
@PatTheRovingBrakeman
@PatTheRovingBrakeman 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoy these videos, but I gotta ask. Where did you find so many rounds of .303? A box of 20 cartridges goes for almost $70 at some suppliers now. 😳
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 6 ай бұрын
There were my hand loads...
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 5 жыл бұрын
Hey from the east coast! How's the BC winter treating you? Bet you wish you had those wool tunics now that it's January!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
It's OK so far. Leather-jerkin-and-scarf-type weather out there...
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Switzerland I shall be skiing tomorrow morning in those battledress trousers, a US M51 wool field shirt, and some other layers of wool to be decided based on the temperature :)
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 5 жыл бұрын
Bloke on the Range gotta love wool eh? I've started to not replace any of my fancy polyester stuff, and go back old school. Wool may suck when it's wet because it gets so heavy, but it insulates far far better, and doesn't make you sweat as much as poly does. I just recently learned about lanolin to help protect it, and make it last longer too.
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 5 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders pffff we just went down to -17 for a high today. It's been super mild after the brutal winter last year. Hardly any snow. Rained for Xmas, but this weekend won't go above like -14 or something. Only gonna be a few days though. Easy winter over all....so far.
@TheSpectacledSteve
@TheSpectacledSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Ross twins are at it again 😂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they are... :-)
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 жыл бұрын
When was this filmed (what time of year?) Trying to get a handle on how long it takes the Nighthawks to migrate.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
Summer.
@NihilsineDeo1866.
@NihilsineDeo1866. 5 жыл бұрын
For king and country
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
But mostly for the guy next to you...
@olivercoles658
@olivercoles658 4 жыл бұрын
I love the hat
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@blueband8114
@blueband8114 5 жыл бұрын
And the Oscar goes to....
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
It's a tie...
@user-tq4fw9mv2f
@user-tq4fw9mv2f 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is called British Muzzle loaders but Id appreciate it greatly if you did a Vid on the Mosin Nagant 1891
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, out of the scope of the Channel... Russian muzzleloaders has a great version though... :) All kidding aside, C&Rsenal has a great episode(s) on it.
@user-tq4fw9mv2f
@user-tq4fw9mv2f 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders well thank you anyway Your videos are great
@brucebartup6161
@brucebartup6161 5 жыл бұрын
Top dollar, pukka, mint, the dog's bollocks, the mutt's nuts. What can I say? Thank you. Donation on it's way.
@royalirish4208
@royalirish4208 5 жыл бұрын
My god I thought our Caubeen's were large, you must have seriously got some oversized berets.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Mike's is a "Cap, GS".... or "Cap, Ridiculous" as it was otherwise known...
@Wotsitorlabart
@Wotsitorlabart 5 жыл бұрын
I have a photo of my father in 1944/45 whilst he was in the Royal Engineers in NW Europe. He is wearing a very similar floppy beret to that worn by the chappy with the glasses.
@ForgedHistory
@ForgedHistory 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the advances to shooting points should be done on the double?
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. Advances to contact were always at the walk until coming under effective enemy fire.
@ForgedHistory
@ForgedHistory 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply... Interesting, more modern combat drills were practiced running to the next shooting point. Great video, warm wishes from the UK.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
In the context of this (historical) practice that would be very difficult and very disrupting... trying to time an exposure to appear at the end of a ten yard dash by hand signal and phone ring to the butts and then have the target appear at the right time would be next to impossible... Now, "run downs" over longer distances were a feature of the pre war Range Courses.. as they are to this day... There, the men double from firing point to firing point (most often 100M or yds) and then engage the targets... You see, there, they stop and engage at a defined point. In this practice the object is to have the engagement done while moving... very different beast to co-ordinate...
@ForgedHistory
@ForgedHistory 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I absolutely agree .. Thanks for the context and thanks for taking a the time to reply. Another great video! Would love to run this myself!!
@stephenduffy5406
@stephenduffy5406 5 жыл бұрын
Did Canadian troops use blanco on their web gear in wwii?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, they did,... that said, field conditions would lead to it rubbing off....
@doctoreff1
@doctoreff1 5 жыл бұрын
Are either of you two familiar with lindybeige? He has hundreds of vids covering a wide range of military topics.
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
He's been on my channel ;)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
He did a voiceover mimicking Churchill on the Martini/Metford Firepower vid on this Channel...
@doctoreff1
@doctoreff1 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I really will have to look up that vid and check it out.
@ArenBerberian
@ArenBerberian 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't focus on what you where talking about, i just spent the whole vid admiring your uniforms.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
At least you can watch it a second time! :-)
@vigunfighter
@vigunfighter 5 жыл бұрын
Was that 'two seconds" in metric?.... :)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
yes,.... no,..... Roman time....
@ironstarofmordian7098
@ironstarofmordian7098 5 жыл бұрын
5:39 that hurt me deaply
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Oh well... Something of yours get sporterised?
@ironstarofmordian7098
@ironstarofmordian7098 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders no but I've had some nightmares
@ReconstructedYankee1882
@ReconstructedYankee1882 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there was a channel called American Muzzleloaders. What rifle would I use. I for American musketry I would use a M1 Garand
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing.
@ReconstructedYankee1882
@ReconstructedYankee1882 4 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I mean imagine hearing that ping go off though accept I be in a US GI uniform for 101 airborne
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReconstructedYankee1882 Imagine hearing a ping?..... I am not sure of what you are speaking... the ping is a non issue...
@ReconstructedYankee1882
@ReconstructedYankee1882 4 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I know it's not an issue what I am saying that the ping is a sweet sound after all 8 rounds are spent
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 5 жыл бұрын
Epic intro, more ASS and advanced paper. So what is this video about? Hehehe...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 5 жыл бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Will be a shame to see the Bloke go but it's ok. You always do an amazing job on your own. ;)
@vanillagorilla6845
@vanillagorilla6845 5 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the no1 or no4? Do you find one is better then the other overall?
@BlokeontheRange
@BlokeontheRange 5 жыл бұрын
No.4 is by far the better rifle. The balance on the No.1 is better though.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Each has it's own charm... the No 4 is the technically better of the two however.
@tays8306
@tays8306 3 жыл бұрын
What about the ole p14... 😋 I can never decide which of the 3 when I'm out with them.
@darkspire91
@darkspire91 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know where I got the idea that you lived in Australia.
@Sir_Godz
@Sir_Godz 5 жыл бұрын
if he were anymore canadian he would have maple syrup fouling the action dripping off his mustache
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
Nor do I.....:-)
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 5 жыл бұрын
Mikes hat needs more yeast, and ten more minutes in the oven to make it rise.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 жыл бұрын
"Cap, Soufle"
@paulandsueroberts4121
@paulandsueroberts4121 5 жыл бұрын
The Oscars are safe......
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