Caving is an amazing adventure... but sometimes it comes with a really high price. Stay safe our there, everyone!
@88feji4 жыл бұрын
+Fascinating Horror I really appreciate the extra descriptive details in your narration of this video... it really heightens the horror of the situation the poor victim finds himself in .. great work !
@88feji4 жыл бұрын
The clear and accurate enunciations, extra descriptions, great accompanying images makes this video superior to other videos on this same event...
@EddVCR3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a few videos on this incident, and yours by far is the best one with most details and facts!
@mijiyoon55753 жыл бұрын
I walked through a lava tunnel in Korea...it was nice but not so far under ground; I'm glad I did it ...once
@fly69doc3 жыл бұрын
amazing adventure? nope....not for me!
@Embarblaze3 жыл бұрын
The ONLY way I will ever explore a cave is walking. The moment I have to crawl, I’m out
@pindasangha28833 жыл бұрын
Fam, I wouldn’t even walk in a cave let alone crawl, there’s just something eerie about being ‘in the Earth’, like the stomach of a beast that can consume you at any moment. I feel uncomfortable looking at the plans of the caves John was in, wouldn’t do it for anything period!
@depressedpacito70243 жыл бұрын
@@pindasangha2883 Most basements of houses are technically under ground. XD (jokes aside Caving sounds like a death sentence, I can sit by a large cave entrance or even get on my knees. But the moment I see more cave im turning my ass around)
@nathanpollaro4793 жыл бұрын
I was maybe 3-400 feet into a cave a few years back. Up until that point the tightest place was a descent that was maybe 3 feet wide and I didn't have an issue with that, and the roof once I entered was around 5 feet at the lowest and 15 at the highest. There was a tiny hole in the floor that was maybe 2 feet wide and 2 feet tall which led into another set of chambers, and trying to go into that is one of the most terrifying things I've ever done and I backed out almost immediately. Something about tiny underground spaces is utterly terrifying and seems to go against our very human nature and I regard anyone who can descend into those places with immense respect, but I also think they're maniacs.
@Kulkanar3 жыл бұрын
As someone who works in construction and has had to work in confined spaces that are about as safe as humans can make the them I do not understand why someone would chance willingly going into a natural cave formation for leisure
@lindinle3 жыл бұрын
if its like big chambers you can walk in sure but fuck that crawling shit.
@Captain-Cardboard3 жыл бұрын
_"There was also The Maze - a confusing jumble of tiny chambers and tight corridors that were fun to explore."_ Yeah, fuck that.
@vedantojha73513 жыл бұрын
Yeah 😂😂
@spaceli0n3 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense to me. I won't skydive but I can understand it, this just seems like Darwinism.
@PaulStringini3 жыл бұрын
@@spaceli0n I agree... at 6'3" and 230 lbs I think I'd rather die skydiving, if I wanted to die sportingly.
@lunahetfield3 жыл бұрын
No way in hell am i going there, let alone step foot inside the cave i would be willing to drive there, take a picture of the cave entrance and leave and never return.
@spaceli0n3 жыл бұрын
@@PaulStringini I can feel you. I'm at 6'4 250lbs..
@nolsee1176 Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited to wake up every day, get out of bed, and never step foot in a cave.
@voicetrainwithtk Жыл бұрын
I find it also interesting that previously, a 16 year old boy was stuck in the exact same place as John did. It seems like they should have blocked the area off or perhaps even put signs warning people that the area was not the actual birth canal. Such a tragic story. And for John a horrific way to go.
@pippetandpossum Жыл бұрын
Yes, but they didn't and after John died they decided to blast closed the entire cave and cement it. Sad no one else will be able to explore it now
@tomghzel Жыл бұрын
@@pippetandpossum yeah I thought the same. Would have been better to block that sideway and have a memorial there. Having the cave explorers come and be at the split, so they really feel how important it is to be careful. That sounds like a better plan to me too.
@epmcgee Жыл бұрын
Yup, surprised the land owner wasn't sued over this. They had a responsibility to keep it safe, especially since it was advertised as beginner friendly. Even if someone hadn't got stuck down there before, they were perfectly aware of the danger it posed since survey teams wouldn't go down it.
@Megamibunny Жыл бұрын
@tomghzel They blocked it off because some people ignore stuff like that. Look at diving signs and memorials
@GadisBaliLivesAbroad Жыл бұрын
The first caver who found the cave entered the same tunnel, however after facing the 45 degree downward (not the 80-90 degree downward angle where John got stuck) angle he quickly realized that it was a mistake and wriggle himself out. I agree he should warm others about the dangerous tunnel. But like we all see from the map, it looks like the farthest/deepest part of the cave and the entrance is very narrow, so maybe he thought there was no need to warn other? 25k visitors a year and no one other than John and had ever enter the tunnel. I read some comments about teenagers (boy scouts ) got stuck before, however I also read I happened in different part of the cave named "Scout trap" .
@StonerWaifu3 жыл бұрын
"Safe for beginners" Has a section named "THE SCOUT EATER"
@lilmsdrummer3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I didn't notice that.
@Astra_Dystopium3 жыл бұрын
“The Maze” and “the birth canal”
@user-ht4ii1wi6u3 жыл бұрын
Your avatar rocks
@bobbypatton49033 жыл бұрын
That's normal to see names like that in a cave. Cavers have a bit of fun naming stuff
@FirewolfKnight3 жыл бұрын
Utah humor
@kevlarcardhouse2523 жыл бұрын
This video did a great job of changing my interest in cave exploration from 1% to 0%.
@karenkonrad47713 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the laugh! I am with you!!
@randyrobertson61163 жыл бұрын
I was more in the range of .025% to -.05%. I mean, I'm claustrophobic so I pretty much only had the nerve to step a few yards into a cave that has a gigantic opening...like mammoth cave park. Other than that, a few feet in and I'm ready for 3 xanax and a paper bag to breathe into.
@tekkieman3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I couldn’t think of an activity more awful.
@aquarianbeauty803 жыл бұрын
Facts ☝🏽
@thejasonknightfiascoband50993 жыл бұрын
Very funny! 😆
@LonelyAssassin96 Жыл бұрын
Utahn here, this story left such impact on everyone when it happened. There's a thing I think some people don't realize about these mountains that surround us. Being so close to them for so long makes you forget: If the Rocky Mountains get a chance to swallow you whole, you'll be lucky if she spits out your corpse. Stay safe, folks. Never underestimate the dangers of something, even if it's considered "beginner friendly".
@DrJ-hx7wv Жыл бұрын
Maybe avoid lunatic hobbies like cave diving.
@LonelyAssassin96 Жыл бұрын
@@DrJ-hx7wv Well, that's definitely worked for me so far.
@annehersey9895 Жыл бұрын
Lonely-You are so right! I lived in Park City for 11 years and the number of highly skilled skiers caught in avalanches by skiing the bowls or off trail amazed me. I live in San Diego now and as you say, the Ocean becomes such a part of your being that it is easy to forget and underestimate the power of the waves!
@jenniferbrewer5370 Жыл бұрын
Same thing here in the Sierras; those who don't respect the wilderness will die at its hand.
@blakewaters8195 Жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountains are in Northern Utah. This happened south of SLC
@kamilareeder149311 ай бұрын
One thing about these stories I love, is that when someone gets stuck or goes missing, there is ALWAYS someone willing to attempt a search . Often, hundreds of people voluteer and show up to help, just on like a 15% chance of saving a total stranger from a horrible fate. Thats a wonderful human urge
@IRONMAN0003 жыл бұрын
My heart sank when they said he could see the rescuer and the rope gave out sending him back in that space. What a horrible way to die.
@Hazbin-hotel-babe3 жыл бұрын
This is why you dont go alone. This is why you dont go at all
@chanimarie67533 жыл бұрын
So sad
@Gmgfjv3 жыл бұрын
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
@jaceylessthan32333 жыл бұрын
We can hope that he was knocked out in the fall, and didn't have long to ruminate after the hope of escape was dashed.
@pkk6393 жыл бұрын
This really messes me up when I think about it. Not only for the poor guy who was trapped but his family who were with him too. Can you imagine if that was your loved one, that would destroy me.
@TheBehemothGod3 жыл бұрын
The rescuer that got himself stuck in there trying to help him is one of the bravest soul I have ever heard of. He literally pushed himself into hell for some guy he had never even met.
@starsintherain20003 жыл бұрын
I agree, bless that man, he is a strong and brave soul.
@tomrogers94673 жыл бұрын
Brings to mind the soccer team than got trapped in a cave in Thailand - took a team of many experts to scuba them out, and a navy seal (Thai navy) died in the process. Some places nature just doesn’t intend us to go!
@newgrandma9793 жыл бұрын
@@tomrogers9467 amen to that
@Hotmaildotcomz3 жыл бұрын
It's called their job.
@newgrandma9793 жыл бұрын
@@Hotmaildotcomz I’m glad it’s not my job!
@kingfish270310 ай бұрын
Theres not enough money on this planet that could convince me to ever crawl into a cave like that
@_kanaekochoАй бұрын
Same. I rather walk barefoot on glass shards than ever go cave exploring
@KeitieKalopsia Жыл бұрын
Even though I’ve seen this video before and know what happens, I still root for John and the rescuers every time as though it’s possible things will go differently this time I watch it.
@GrislyAtoms12 Жыл бұрын
And Scott Norwood keeps hoping that football will hook left...
@RogueNation. Жыл бұрын
@@GrislyAtoms12ROFLMAO 😂
@EmperorsNewWardrobe9 ай бұрын
I know you exactly what you mean. I guess it’s fantasising as a form of denial to cope with trauma. There should be a word for it though
@Stabbyhara4 ай бұрын
@@EmperorsNewWardrobeDelusion or in internet speak, Copium
@markjosephbacho56523 ай бұрын
Same. I'm watching it again. Tsk
@Distorteddesignshop3 жыл бұрын
I like the kinds of caves where you walk along a set, partially paved path and there are railings in even the most benign places. The local guide tells you the same facts about erosion that every cave has while his little dog, who grew up playing on the trails, follows the group around excitedly. The scariest part is where you exit into the gift shop and see the prices for little geode slices with the name of the cave on it and know you're going to end up buying one. *Those* are beginner caves.
@lonewolf95783 жыл бұрын
That kind of caving I’d be willing to do If it gets to the point I have to crawl I’m just nopeing right out of there
@LuvBorderCollies3 жыл бұрын
Wind Cave in South Dakota is similar but minus dogs/pets. The tour paths are concrete with steps and rails where needed. Take a powerful flashlight on the tour and shine light into the countless branches to see some seriously scary "terrain". The known cave system is huge and rangers say the uncharted is far larger. Authorized cave explorers are still working on charting and finding new branches and rooms. If someone decided to escape the tour and go exploring, well you'd be missed but probably not found.
@nullbubble7913 жыл бұрын
The only cave I've ever been in had an area where they stored large wheels of cheese, the guided tours were all safe, well lit, railings almost everywhere and no tiny tunnels where I could end up stuck and need my step brothers help
@Pinkjeepkiki3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@hortondlfn19943 жыл бұрын
@@nullbubble791 I think I could die happy in a cave filled with cheese.
@lyonsrawrs2 жыл бұрын
The scariest aspect to me as how helpless everyone was in this situation. Like all the proper authorities were notified, they had tons of equipment and trained rescuers. And it just didn't matter.
@raydiaz27722 жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere it took about a hour just to get down into the part of the cave he was in everyone involved in that must of been just beat to shit.
@bodhixxx12 жыл бұрын
Ya a big problem is the distance he is in the cave. Example they make a electric Jackhammer but that is too far to run extension cord maybe they could of run 10-2 wire down to him to run the jackhammer but that wire is heavy and awkward to handle ( in a normal situation)
@redhakiim7892 жыл бұрын
@B C Don't believe that bullcrap quotes from "Nothing is impossible" by some smartarse. We can't even survived a lot of different ways to die.
@trequor2 жыл бұрын
@@bodhixxx1 And of course a gasoline powered one would make the cave poisonous
@bodhixxx12 жыл бұрын
@@trequor correct deadly fumes and they are bulky and heavy I do not think it would fit through the "birth canal"
@ekpennock Жыл бұрын
I'm a Utah caver, I was in Nutty Putty a month before this happened. When I went in, I was told this cave was especially tricky and had a history of people getting stuck. It didn't require rope work but we knew it wasn't "for beginners". Not sure where you're getting that
@roybatty3989 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard this story before and except for the ending it was a very different story. I mean they closed it off once because it was too dangerous.
@maccusmc Жыл бұрын
I was there a month ago and never saw you. Please don't lie to us again
@mtra.mariafernandafloreshe1301 Жыл бұрын
@@maccusmc Maybe it was diferent days 🙄
@maccusmc Жыл бұрын
@@mtra.mariafernandafloreshe1301 I was there everyday.
@LordReaperus-memes Жыл бұрын
@@maccusmc Different times of the day
@marvelouslee44272 жыл бұрын
I’ve always had “stress dreams” (not scary enough to be nightmares) about having to squeeze through tight spaces very quickly. I’m not claustrophobic, but something about the combination of close spaces and time limits is so anxiety inducing. This story takes it to an entirely different level of horrifying.
@YasmineSkyKD Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I've had dreams where I've been trapped inside a cave no bigger than, say, a cupboard under the stairs. And the narrative of the dream is that I don't ever escape. No one is coming to rescue me. It is f*cking terrifying!! I've also been buried in an avalanche and been stuck in a capsized ship while the water level rises. God knows why the f*ck I'd dream such things!! 😳😳
@clairemmiiler2656 Жыл бұрын
Oh me too! I find it comforting in a strange way that I’m not alone in having these kinds of specific dreams.
@vacafuega Жыл бұрын
Strong likelihood you're reliving birth memories. I had these types of dreams for years before connecting the dots with what I knew about my birth, and then suddenly it all made sense.
@chad9166 Жыл бұрын
@@vacafuega Yeah thats not true lmao. New age bullshit
@Smedley19473 ай бұрын
Interesting, I used to have recurring dreams of finding myself at the top of a radio tower usually in the Flatlands of something like Kansas where you can see the quilt work of the fields from something like 2000 or 3,000 feet. It was a very precarious feeling to be on the platform. Because it was a recurring dream I assume it had meaning somewhere in my unconscious but I never was able to figure out what it was. Haven't had one of those for about 3 decades. I used to have all kinds of disaster dreams, recurring many times. Dreams where the details changes but the basic idea is the same with the disasters ranging from tsunamis to tornadoes to volcanic eruptions and downbursts. In all cases it appeared that there was no Escape so naturally they were frightening but still not actually nightmares . I've only had five or six Bonafide nightmares in my life and I'm 76 . That period of different styles of natural disasters lasted about 5 years, from about 35 to 40 years old.
@rodyates12 жыл бұрын
I used to do a lot of caving, but once I found a narrow passage going up at a shallow incline, and decided to try it. I couldn't wear my safety hat in that space, it wouldn't fit. I turned my head a bit, and could see that the roof appeared to be loose rock. A few feet further on, the passage ended. !!! I had to consider that I was trapped. After careful thought, I realised that my overalls would bunch up if I tried to back out. Somehow, I'd have to turn around in the bulb shape at the end of the passage. That was really scary. Slowly, I then slid down the passage, and out. Outside, to see the sky full of stars convinced me never to go caving again.
@mrskiddles472 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t even begin to imagine being in your position. Good job powering thru.
@AlienWithABox2 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad you had enough of your wits about you to get yourself turned around.
@masakazuhiruko5502 жыл бұрын
I understand the thrill people may wanted until i saw a stupid youtuber who went to a cave alone and suddenly flooded. There is a thin line between being stupid and crazy
@EazzyBeezie2 жыл бұрын
Geez, glad you are okay.
@Justyburger2 жыл бұрын
It's fortunate that you were in the opposite predicament to the guy in this video and that gravity was in your favor. So I'm assuming that you had nobody behind you, that could pull you out? That's quite risky just by itself.
@ahhyesstoinks40583 жыл бұрын
If this cave is "beginner friendly" then caving is seriously not a hobby for me
@MacyPooh1963 жыл бұрын
In Alabama there’s a cave considered safe enough for children that barely has any safety railing and long, deep drop offs that will literally kill people so I think the use of “beginner friendly” seems to be loose
@adrenalinewill3 жыл бұрын
@@MacyPooh196 that still is a beginner friendly cave tight caves aren’t beginner friendly
@audreymai27733 жыл бұрын
@@adrenalinewill it is not beginning friendly. I have caved most of my life. A good beginner cave is one with no struggle. With open rooms from time to time. And best with 2 mouths to the cave. If your back touches the ceiling when on your stomach, it is dangerous. Maybe, it could be called a beginner "claustrophobic cave". But yeah, I made that mistake once. My brothers couldn't fit in this one tunnel, so they sent me because I was the smallest, so that we could see if it opened up at some point. They ended up having to pull me back out. Never did anything that tight again. I rather crab crawl under low ceilings then take that chance again.
@Donde_Lieta3 жыл бұрын
I think it got that reputation because a bunch of drunk college students used to go in the cave for drunk midnight adventures (before it was gated off and access was limited). Although small, I think the first part of the cave was beginner friendly, but anything past “the big slide” was probably more challenging and dangerous, I don’t think the drunk college kids ever went that far into the cave
@839bang3 жыл бұрын
@@MacyPooh196 What cave in Alabama?
@Sacheen81 Жыл бұрын
This is my worst nightmare, I can't imagine the horror of what John, his family, friends, and Rescue workers endured. I hope his wife and child have lots of happy recorded memories of his short life to treasure.
@WILSONMOSBEY-ix2pw4 ай бұрын
Very horrifying. I pray that God gives comfort after such a story. Someday when Christ comes, all pain will be wiped out. We pray John is raised to receive Christ.
@ty16080 Жыл бұрын
I live just about 20 miles from Nutty Putty caves. My dad went there several times growing up. It was always a popular activity for scout troops, and my troop talked about it several times but always ended up doing other activities instead. This tragedy happened before we had a chance to go down there. Just this past year I went out and visited the site and was able to read the plaque and pay my respects. Such a sad tragedy... I remember tuning in to the updates about the rescue operation and being sure that it was just a matter of time before they got him out... sadly it just got worse and worse. It's hard to picture a more horrific and drawn-out death. May he rest in peace.
@matthewmarsh1971 Жыл бұрын
More drawn out... Look up Floyd Collins. I'm wondering if the family will ever get a shaft dug down to get jones out of nutty putty and get proper burial.
@Rose00043 жыл бұрын
"Unaware of the danger, John crawled onwards, until he couldn't." Such a sad, terrifying sentence.
@arianebolt15753 жыл бұрын
Such a simple way to get horrifically trapped
@atnfn3 жыл бұрын
Never been in a cave so perhaps there is something I don't understand... but. It seems stupid crawling head first down a narrow vertical tunnel. What was he thinking? Maybe you get disoriented in caves and don't know what is up or down? I donno.
@DeadKraken3 жыл бұрын
@@atnfn I think it was probably because he thought he was in one of the charted "safe" tunnels, which means that he maybe thought at some point the tunnel was gonna get wider enough to turn back. Since it's vertical it's also possible that he simply slipped down without meaning to. I dunno, it seemed stupid to me as well, but I'd never crawl in a fuckin tunnel in the first place. I'm 5'2, so the moment I cannot stand in a cave, mine or tunnel, I'm out lol
@arianebolt15753 жыл бұрын
@@DeadKraken I've done a little polar bear caving (so narrow it's not even crawling), which was fun. But that was in Mammoth Cave, with a tour guide making sure nobody got lost.
@tygrenvoltaris47823 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of destiny "And for centuries humanity thrived, until it didn't"
@K9Katie4 жыл бұрын
I have really bad claustrophobia, so the thought of being stuck (or even in the cave in the first place) makes me genuinely panic. Poor, poor man, what a horrible death.
@jeanettewaverly25903 жыл бұрын
rhaeofsunshine Me too.
@LizzardJG3 жыл бұрын
Me too. AND he was upside down. Just horrifying
@Fayefaye903 жыл бұрын
Same! It was hard for me to even listen to this one. 😭😭 I couldn't imagine!
@Abandando713 жыл бұрын
I’m hyperventilating just listening to this...
@tacosocks25763 жыл бұрын
Full agreement on that. What an awefull moment for his family. Aparently a cave system used by thousands didnt need any signs to direct people on the correct path
@ellaelliott44152 жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for rescue teams. They work as hard as they can, putting everything else but saving people out of their minds and do their best. The vicarious trauma (and their own) that they experience would be enough to make most people stay far, far away from these jobs. The rescues that fail must weigh heavily on them. I know I’d have nightmares and flashbacks. I can’t imagine what everyone went through
@tebelshaw9486 Жыл бұрын
It would do high risk seekers a world of good to seriously consider whose lives will be endangered if they require rescuing.
@angryfluteperson Жыл бұрын
When I first read about this I felt sick and had trouble falling asleep. I think this is one of the most horrific deaths I could imagine. Slowly dying over the course of many hours, confined in that position in the tiniest space, in pain, knowing full well it was his own doing that got him there. I truly hope he rests in peace and in a better place.
@curiousottman3 жыл бұрын
The rescuers are true heroes. Even though they couldn’t succeed just imagine going down there; the kind of talent, skill and nerves of steel you’d need. So sorry for John’s family.
@RocKnight113 жыл бұрын
You ain't kidding. I wouldn't go in there willingly, yet it is these rescuers' job to do so. What happened to this John Jones guy is my worst nightmare. RIP John.
@lok7773 жыл бұрын
They saved two young children in separate incidents in the same part of the cave with the same pulley system. Jones was just to heavy and the pulley system would not support his weight. As horrific as this was I could not imagine waiting with a child for 5 hours trapped in this situation waiting for rescuers.
@WolvenDragonZ3 жыл бұрын
@@lok777 you'd think after that they would have plugged or labeled that section before a third person tried it Edit:typo
@vividvault92853 жыл бұрын
@@WolvenDragonZ It wasn't the necessarily same section of cave.
@tammymeads54863 жыл бұрын
Indeed they are! I couldn’t have done that. I’m extremely claustrophobic. Had I of been called to that scene, I would of been like “hell na, sorry”
@mm1234Xxx4 жыл бұрын
After hearing this the first time I couldn't stop thinking that he quite literally crawled into his own grave
@splintcell223 жыл бұрын
Free burial. he was thinking ahead
@j.peters12223 жыл бұрын
Poor bastard
@lastofthe4horsemen2793 жыл бұрын
Oh yes that's neat
@steveguzman61413 жыл бұрын
Dont be so sad he is now part of the nutty putty
@steveguzman61413 жыл бұрын
@@splintcell22 no he was a merman and he foolishly thought his gods would save him.
@samuelmeikle5977 Жыл бұрын
I really feel for John but the biggest rule when entering a tight space in caving is never go down head first. You always go legs first because if you get stuck you can still push out. The other issue was it took too long to get cave rescue down there. They called in regular Ems who got stuck themselves and slowed down the rescue. By the time they got to him most of the rescue techniques they could’ve used were unavailable due to his state.
@DailyWorldWideNews9453 ай бұрын
True, but if you wanted to rob theoigh the birth canal you have to rob with face in front. There is a video of someone who was there in 2005 and kf you watch it you understand why.
@SnarlyCharly2 жыл бұрын
My anxiety about claustrophobic spaces is absolutely EXPLODING as I watch this. I can't even imagine going into a cave and crawling through passages like this. I would be dead from a heart attack before I could even die of anything else. Absolutely horrifying
@editaudioaesthetic Жыл бұрын
there was too much foreshadowing for pia not to die like that. if they did do some kind of fight.. that would be defeating the purpose of this episode, i feel, since it would be the most dramatic ending and therefore the most entertaining, the most sadistic
@user-ff3mv6md8n9 ай бұрын
Same here bro
@Nikki04173 жыл бұрын
His body still being in those caves is the most horrifying part to me.
@morcoroni3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@lautaroaguilar95843 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I still think about it . 😢
@victorclabaugh13733 жыл бұрын
Nah he's dead now that being a release from the terror of being stuck there waiting for possible rescue. I mean after we die our bodies are just waste material our soul or whatever gets to leave.
@thebestlife11743 жыл бұрын
What about the people who died on Mount Everest? There are bodies everywhere and no one can bring them home ☹
@sherriweibert33113 жыл бұрын
If it were my loved one stuck in there, I would not be able to rest. It's just the thought of his remains, stuck there, forever, all alone. Such a sad story.
@danielle2285123 жыл бұрын
I’m having anxiety just looking at the map. I can’t even imagine beginners would want to squeeze themselves through that
@S_Cooper04043 жыл бұрын
Just listening to this makes me so claustrophobic that I feel like I can't breathe.
@hamsterama3 жыл бұрын
And it's not like this guy got into this situation by an unforeseen accident. It mean, it's not a true accident, like getting stuck in a fragile building in an earthquake, or a car crash. He chose to go down into that cave for entertainment purposes. This guy had a wife and a kid, so why he would take those risks, I don't know. At age 26, he should have known better.
@terminallove35313 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterama He thought he was in Birth Canal,which was safe-ish.
@hamsterama3 жыл бұрын
@@terminallove3531 Might be safe-ish, but climbing into a cave would still carry some risk. There's a reason the average person doesn't go spelunking in unlit caves for fun. It's because it can be dangerous. If you have a family, there are safe alternatives "tourist traps," like Mammoth Cave in Kentucky, or the Ohio Caverns, for a couple examples.
@moviemad563 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterama I agree. Painful indeed for his family and friends, but he chose to go down there at NINE OCLOCK AT NIGHT. Tell me that isn't reckless. He also endangered the rescuers.
@curbyourshi105611 ай бұрын
Caving = nope. Risking your life like that when you've got kids is incredibly selfish in my opinion.
@EminencePhront Жыл бұрын
I remember I was exploring a cave far shallower than this one, and 100% charted. There was one spot where you had to shimmy between the ceiling and the floor and it was so skinny that even a slender person like me had to suck it in to fit through, and even then it was slow going. It probably took about 60 seconds to get through. During that time I thought "if there is an earthquake right now, this is it." I haven't gone caving since. I stick to safer hobbies like motorcycling without full gear.
@josephj65219 ай бұрын
Haha. Without full gear. I’ve never been in a cave where I couldn’t stand up freely.
@willglo3 жыл бұрын
If this cave was marked fit for beginners... Then I can't even imagine seeing a cave marked fit for experts & pros!
@ventu79073 жыл бұрын
I have seen caves marked for experts that are better mapped and have bigger spaces
@QCrafty3 жыл бұрын
Well remember, the part he went to explore was def not marked for beginners considering it had never been explored. I feel like there should’ve been mandatory guides.
@9trogenta133 жыл бұрын
Think of the ones that get flooded
@youtubegimme86463 жыл бұрын
MOUNT MOON XDDDD XDD (POKÉMON REFERENCE NOT MANY WOULD GET XD)
@aheinz3083 жыл бұрын
Most of the cave was good for beginners he was just in the few place there weren't.
@batwom43043 жыл бұрын
The fact that some find jamming themselves further and further into a dark artery lined with rock ‘relaxing’ and ‘fun’ makes me want to reevaluate literally everything ever.
@jonathanallard21283 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they don't find it relaxing, more like adrenaline rushing. That said I completely understand your point and I agree. I've had enough nightmares about getting stuck in tight spaces I know my anxiety would never allow that kind of hobby.
@SweetUniverse3 жыл бұрын
P.S. ♥️♥️♥️ your profile pic
@jonathanallard21283 жыл бұрын
@@SweetUniverse Thanks.
@jine71233 жыл бұрын
Your brain is working as nature intended. The same can't be said for people who pursue activities that pose a great risk to their lives...
@jonathanallard21283 жыл бұрын
@@jine7123 I'm sure there's an evolutionary purpose that somehow helps tribal survival about pursuing danger, as unintuitive as it sounds.
@EfficientTrout2 жыл бұрын
3:50 the way he tells it gives me shivers. Amazing storytelling ability
@kollow2 жыл бұрын
I explored the Nutty Putty caves back in the 90's. I would say most people knew where the limits were. I didn't study the cave beforehand and I didn't have safety gear. All you had to do was look down into the area John got stuck and your instincts told you "that's a hard pass"
@maddys7281 Жыл бұрын
The birth canal and onwards looks insanely narrow too. How does one turn around after going through that?
@hannahhannah7002 Жыл бұрын
@@maddys7281birth canal opens into a wider area that you can turn around in
@matthewmarsh1971 Жыл бұрын
@@hannahhannah7002 is there any video of that online? I look at this stuff like who the hell was the first person to go down that and figure out they could turn around? I'm wondering how many people have been where John got stuck and wiggled backwards. Maybe @kollow?
@hannahhannah7002 Жыл бұрын
@matthewmarsh1971 I do believe CBG has videos of it and a couple other caving videos on other channels, regardless he was no where near the birth canal. He got lost and ended up in area called Ed's push
@matthewmarsh1971 Жыл бұрын
@@hannahhannah7002 i womder who named it eds push. I want to see eds comments
@inconceivableabysses3 жыл бұрын
There are some phobias that are innate, natural fears, left over from our uncivilized ancestors. Fear of heights, fear of spiders, or snakes, and the fear of dark, enclosed spaces. Those fears evolved because they kept us alive.
@susanlansdell8633 жыл бұрын
Cindy Lewis Over the years I’ve come to terms with my fear of spiders and snakes and I even quite like them now ,but nothing could ever persuade me to enter a cave or enjoy the view from a high building or cliff. Like you say some innate fears are there to protect us.xx
@iakdrawllim41273 жыл бұрын
ITHEREONETHATHASNT I feel bad for you that you were born with the inability to use any ability to put yourself in other peoples shoes or have empathy, but such is life
@she_sings_delightful_things3 жыл бұрын
Such a good point.
@mksabourinable3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually more afraid of wide open spaces. Which makes sense as an innate fear bc you can't hide very easily (from predators for example) in wide open spaces. I feel safer in small spaces. I've got the opposite of claustrophobia. I hide. Claustrophobia isn't universal. Neither are those other fears you mentioned.
@Kyle2119193 жыл бұрын
@@mksabourinable Innate, not universal. If evolution worked universally in the same way we would all be exactly the same. Opposite of claustrophobia is agoraphobia if I'm correct
@whimsicalclouds3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the saddest stories I've heard in a while. He got so close to being rescued, only to slip back into his grave. I can't imagine the pain he must have felt, nor how terrible it must have been for his family and the rescue team
@TruthTe11er3 жыл бұрын
This is the only video on this guy I've seen that mentions him being pulled high enough to make eye contact with the rescuer and him slipping back down. Horrific.
@Davidman39763 жыл бұрын
@@TruthTe11er Other sources mention that the space was so narrow they couldn't pull him out because his feet almost touched the ceiling and the only posibility to get him out was to break his legs. He was in an inverted L, facing the wrong direction. The problem always was that there was no room at all and literally nothing could be done if he wasn't able to at least turn around.
@jackierocha50963 жыл бұрын
At that point if I was in that situation I would’ve been begging someone to just kill me so I wouldn’t have to suffer any longer. Even if it was possible to survive a second attempt, I wouldn’t have the emotional strength to have them try again
@mahogany_black87563 жыл бұрын
Jackie Rocha same here.....
@beans67653 жыл бұрын
Should’ve just threw a bunch of dynamite down there and explode him so it would’ve been quick and the cave would be bigger
@rowlands_2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the movie on this incident and had an anxiety attack just watching the movie and picturing being in that situation. Upon further investigation of this- the movie sugarcoats alot of the circumstances. The fact that until the rescue came he was in darkness, he suffered from hallucinations and a few panic attacks, he couldn’t breathe, his legs hurt like hell (and the only thing to help the pain was a UV in his toe that they gave him like 15-20 hrs into being stuck) and the thing that acually killed him- a very painful organ failure & a heart attack, all while hanging UPSIDE DOWN knowing that he was leaving his child and wife who was expecting the two’s 2nd child.
@Mephisto-ie2xg Жыл бұрын
THEY MADE A MOVIE OF THIS???
@davidchodds Жыл бұрын
I've heard this story a dozen times on KZfaq. But you present it in the most perfect way possible. All facts, no sensationalism, and just personal enough that we get an honest portrayal and yet feel all the angst of all involved as well.
@DjVortex-w2 жыл бұрын
And, of course, when they declared this cave (most of which was so narrow that you had to literally crawl to get through) "beginner-friendly" they never thought of sealing off or marking the parts that were unexplored and thus not to be ventured into. Because who would ever get lost in a set of dark extremely narrow passages and take the wrong turn? In my opinion a "beginner-friendly" cave is one that you can walk upright completely through, with the correct path being clearly marked. Anything harder than that isn't "beginner-friendly".
@hannahkillian6892 жыл бұрын
Like lava tubes. Those you can walk upright in.
@kalumbailey51032 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't be caving though, that'd be like saying build a ladder down a cliff so you can go 'beginner' rock climbing.
@doctorspockable2 жыл бұрын
@@kalumbailey5103 caving is exploring a cave system. Just because you prefer more difficult caves doesn't mean they're for everyone
@MikaMikhailMikhailovich2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorspockable i'll have to agree with Kalum there beginner-friendly should be something that would introduce you to a real caving experience in a safe environment, crawling isn't hard if you've ever been under a bed you know that with enough space over your head moving isn't an issue you also have to remember caving is an extreme sport that you exercise for the adrenaline, what a beginner friendly cave needs are instructor people that can accompany newbies and remind experienced folks that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer and that you're still in a fucking tunnel underground in the dark which continues on for miles and miles
@doctorspockable2 жыл бұрын
@@MikaMikhailMikhailovich I didn't say more dangerous levels of caving were banned, did I? Most beginners, especially if its your first time underground, would prefer a little more space. Standing up, possibly crouching, not squeezing through a tunnel where it's in on all sides. You're right that they should have had guides there, but the key part of your first sentence was "safe environment". Nutty Putty was not a beginner cave. If you have to squeeze through gaps, it's not for beginners unless you have an experienced guide, which this group didn't. It also didn't help this was a) John's first time in the cave and b) it was already 8pm when they entered.
@DOGBRAIND3 жыл бұрын
this man was literally dying and when asked how he was doing he just said "this sucks"
@nickie78743 жыл бұрын
Sad ...
@doxasophosmoros3 жыл бұрын
They are Mormons. They prayed and sung, mostly. Read the articles
@Jay-rc5ix3 жыл бұрын
@@doxasophosmoros I'm not surprised, but... if it helped him relax in his last moments, then I'm glad. I hope he got some kind of closure.
@DaRealKing3033 жыл бұрын
Mormons are some of the most polite people I have met.
@Hwwgameplay3 жыл бұрын
@@nickie7874 what a legend though, I would not have handled it nearly as well
@Steve-fv7zc Жыл бұрын
To think he died literally the day before Thanksgiving. That must have been a hard one for his family to endure. :(
@epmcgee Жыл бұрын
What's pathetic is that the cave access manager talks about how they tried to rush it and get a pronunciation of death before thanksgiving so that the family wouldn't be reminded on thanksgiving every year. As if that changes their loss, or how it would affect them the very next day.
@RenegadeShepTheSpacer Жыл бұрын
The fall itself is likely what killed him. I get that he was still breathing raggedly afterwards, but with blood pooling in his head for so long, a fall that was almost certainly headfirst onto solid rock must have ruptured something and caused his brain to haemorrhage. It's a terrible, hollow truth, but he probably didn't suffocate to death in the end.
@crosisofborg5524 Жыл бұрын
How exactly is your conjecture considered a truth?
@Laura-kl7vi Жыл бұрын
I hope so. Because as an almost-MD (4th year med student), he knew exactly what was happening as his body had been shutting down. I hope the fall knocked him out instantly so he never knew more than he was going to get out.
@RenegadeShepTheSpacer Жыл бұрын
@@crosisofborg5524Because I understand the medical science behind the issue regardless of whether or not you do, and that makes it a probable theory, not baseless conjecture. He stopped speaking after the fall for a reason.
@EmperorsNewWardrobe9 ай бұрын
When I heard that he wasn’t responding, I felt relief that the terror was over for him, even if it did tragically mean his death
@kevinmalone32108 ай бұрын
He literally crawled into that crevice. He was still lucid when the attempts were made to rescue him.
@raydunakin3 жыл бұрын
I read about this in the news when it happened. As someone who is a bit claustrophobic, this still makes me shudder every time I think about it.
@InVinoVeratas3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t see the appeal in shoving yourself into a hole you don’t necessarily know where it will end up.
@InarusLynx3 жыл бұрын
I am at 4:29 and specifically came looking for a comment like this. As soon as it was described how he crawled down a tight passage, I was creeped out. I could not imagine doing something like this.
@jizzyjake67833 жыл бұрын
I never regarded myself as claustrophobic but I'm beginning to reconsider
@Dougie19693 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose how to die this would be below burning or drowning
Just gotta say search and rescue to teams are so underappreciated. Risking your own life every time and if they didn't make it, that would wreck me
@jonathanallard21283 жыл бұрын
Real heroes
@gem90893 ай бұрын
I truly can't imagine how John felt. This is absolutely horrific. I'm clostrophonic & am struggling to breathe just watching this!
@antony139727 күн бұрын
Surely his "god" could have saved him, or given him the wisdom to not go into a clay fucking hole beneath the earth upside down.
@jefferoni1984 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never though of myself as claustrophobic but I could barely get through this. The terror that young man must’ve felt. The thought makes my stomach churn. What a terrible situation.
@srdjankovic3 жыл бұрын
How was this considered to be a beginner friendly cave when there are places in it that were unexplored with no warning not to go any further?
@deprofundis32933 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Who tf was in charge of signage? They should have at least had that if not a full block of that side tunnel.
@o_o4743 жыл бұрын
@@deprofundis3293 Caves like these barely ever have signage and are intended to be left as close to their natural state as possible. The responsibility of safely navigating the cave lies on the caver.
@CoIoneIPanic3 жыл бұрын
It's beginner friendly because even beginners can have a true cave experience getting permanently stuck hanging upside down like a petrified bat?
@Nvcturnal3 жыл бұрын
I had this train of thought too, but then I remember skiing/snowboarding is the exact same way. You have green designated slopes and bunny slopes, both the easiest slopes, but if you veer off the path just 10 feet you could suddenly find yourself in sheer steep "backcountry" territory.
@FNLNFNLN3 жыл бұрын
@@Nvcturnal Yeah, but ski slopes usually have fencing or signage to stop you from going down the wrong path.
@jamalsowell36503 жыл бұрын
The rescue guy Ryan literally had his face almost slashed off by the rope, bleeding, and was still worried about someone getting down there with John.
@sunnyjohnson9923 жыл бұрын
I read his top lip got so swollen that it hung down to his chin! 😱
@mhm778873 жыл бұрын
so many kind people in this case. The rescue workers, the landowner. Atleast thats pleasent.
@CoIoneIPanic3 жыл бұрын
@@mhm77887 Wait what was pleasant about the land owner? he wanted to dynamite the whole cave on top of John!
@commandossev3 жыл бұрын
@@CoIoneIPanic It would destroy the caves so there was absolutely no chance someone could illegally enter them after they were sealed off and meet the same tragic fate.
@Long-Horse3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah because he knew he wasn't close to death and the guy that was trapped was, obviously you would still worry about someone that was gonna die if you had a bit of a injury, honestly your comment is very dumb.
@luispt77 Жыл бұрын
After hearing this story a couple of times I still can't believe they didn't have signs or markings on the wall to tell to not go through the uncharted territory or even to inform where the entrance to birth canal was. Especially since somehow this was consideres a beginner friendly cave.
@alisonwilson9749 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, you can't stick signs up everywhere underground. Caving is not for the inexperienced, except under close supervision by, and under the orders of, experienced persons who know the system thoroughly, who are responsible people and keep beginners firmly on straightforward routes. I've only caved twice, both times with a very experienced leader who trains cavers and is a member of Cave Rescue. I wouldn't dream of wandering off on my own.
@Laura-kl7vi Жыл бұрын
@@alisonwilson9749 Cave reopened in 2009 requiring 2 experienced cavers to be with a group their size. John and his brother signed up as experienced cavers, because they had been experienced when they were kids and teens. Some believe they made decisions indicating they were no longer actually experienced up to date cavers.
@independentthought33909 ай бұрын
@@Laura-kl7vi I just watched the 2005 videos, pretty much the only videos ever made to show the insides of the Nutty Putty cave, and inspected the map of the cave from 2004, and I am 99% sure the "Birth canal story" was made up by his brother, to show them in a more positive light. If you've ever seen the map, there is no way to mistake Ed's push with Birth canal. To enter the Birth canal, you just need to keep right after the Slide. In truth, they were deliberately entering the less known tunnels, competing to get as far in as possible.
@ashtonsmith96829 ай бұрын
If that’s true than both him and brother were pi’s Darwin Award winners.
@cinnamon9627 ай бұрын
Well, it’s a “sign” if you are squeezing through holes that you don’t know where they lead.
@willstuart4504 Жыл бұрын
Not many stories can actually bother me, probably have been desensitized by years of watching heartbreaking stories like this one, but if I'm being completely honest here... this terrible tragedy gives me the eeby-geebies. Can't even imagine the FEAR
@usevim22693 жыл бұрын
God, I’ve heard this story a 1000 times and it still freaks me out. Poor guy. I also can’t imagine how traumatized the rescuers were...
@lawka26993 жыл бұрын
I dont get why they couldn't drill him out. I really wish I could have heard the onsluaght of suggestions by the people involved in the rescue. I mean, with all the technology we have to day... It seems it should have been doable??
@Lucian04103 жыл бұрын
Skip Skylark not in a tunnle that narrow, how do you expect them to even fit the tools down there? Plus, thats solid rock on rock on rock, no way they would he able to chip that away in time It was an inpossible situation, judging by the shape of the passage he shouldnt had even been able to get his legs through there. But he somehow did
@ladymopar20243 жыл бұрын
It is played 4 people that are just beginning to go caving.
@KevinJohnson-sm4jc3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the drills could be positioned to do much, explosives were the only thing to move that rock, and well, you know the outcome. These guys that squeeze into tiny cracks and crevices, I don't get it.
@stevusbeefus3 жыл бұрын
@@lawka2699 falling rock would have crushed him lol
@cubby69882 жыл бұрын
Red flag one for me would have been when they said “here’s a great beginner cave, only you have to crawl”.. Just listening to this made my skin crawl, absolutely horrifying.
@landonp6292 жыл бұрын
"Beginner cave" does not mean a tourist cave, it means a cave that lacks a lot of immediate danger. It means a cave where you don't have to swim, where you won't fall down random 40 foot pits, fall of ledges, etc. It has nothing to do with how much crawling is involved - as crawling is not anything out of the ordinary for a beginning cave explorer. I think many people here are confusing 'beginner cave' with the idea that its a cave appropriate for lay people to go exploring around in - and that is NOT what it means.
@emstink2 жыл бұрын
@@landonp629 Appreciate the info. But bear in mind most people have no idea about cave exploring and won't know the terminology, and therefore without any explanation will think "beginner cave" = "cave for beginners", which in the mind of people who've never done cave exploring means you have freedom of movement.
@MarkSentMe2 жыл бұрын
@@landonp629 Thanks for clarifying that. I hear "beginner cave" and I'm thinking walking upright, bats, stalactites, school kids in Jordans sneaking off for a smoke...
@UncoordinatedPixie2 жыл бұрын
Go read how you had To get INTO the cave.
@Randy.Bobandy2 жыл бұрын
@@landonp629 that’s why “beginner cave” is a stupidly ambiguous term that most lay people would assume to mean “safe”.
@alexshank1414 Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t he do something more interesting, like rearranging his sock drawer?
@ashleigh_whatever Жыл бұрын
Those men who tried their hardest to save him, are so brave. I couldn't do it. I experienced a panic attack just watching this 11 minute video, they worked for hours!
@ProKilirsha3 жыл бұрын
I know he is dead, so he doesn't feel anything anymore, but I'm horrified of the thought that he remained there... I would go so insane from grief knowing that my loved one is entombed in a cave, upside down with no hope of proper burial and last goodbyes...
@KellyMcnelly3333 жыл бұрын
Same here his poor poor family 😨😭
@janicesmith59743 жыл бұрын
Anastasia Zamurujev That’s what I’ve always said about this case. They really should’ve taken his body out. So sad for his family to know he’s down there like that. And so morbid in general.
@Donnie-ys7vr3 жыл бұрын
@@janicesmith5974 well his family is the one who requested to leave him there. The passage way was far too narrow with only one way out, trying to pull him out is basically like fighting backward against a water current and it was risky even to the rescuers.
@Duskdog7173 жыл бұрын
@@janicesmith5974 Taking his body out would have required other people to risk their lives. Would you rather have two (or more) dead people instead of just one, just to retrieve a corpse that is beyond feeling or caring, so you can put it back in the ground in a different place? That would be madness. If it were my loved one, I wouldn't want to risk the life of a single other person.
@littlewillowlinda3 жыл бұрын
At least he got to talk to his wife on the walkie. Small solace since he didn't know it was going to be the last time, but better than nothing. 😔
@oystersnag3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Utah and explored the nutty putty caves with a group of friends, all young teens. I had no experience and didn't know what i was getting myself into. We had a fun time and all got out with no issue. Watching these videos about John makes me almost paralyzed with fear, knowing it could easily have been me. I'm glad these caves are sealed off now. Even being an invulnerable teenager, I felt uneasy when I was down in those caves.
@littlemizredhead3 жыл бұрын
That would have been my brother if my parents hadn't refused to let him go with his scout group the week before.
@wrenfield78873 жыл бұрын
My friends would go when we were teenagers, I could never talk myself into going though. Glad I didn’t.
@AB-mx1de3 жыл бұрын
I always refused when friends would go in the early 2000s. I am claustrophobic and it made me nervous to even think about going inside. When this tragedy unfolded I was horrified. My future husband almost asked me on a group date there and felt he shouldn't do so, am glad he did not!
@shanesgettinghandy3 жыл бұрын
I've been through the birth canal and back, twice. I'm 130 lbs, and it was tight for me, and I had friends way bigger than me size go through it somehow..... I still don't understand how they did it.
@andrewsld3 жыл бұрын
if more people would stop when they feel uneasy, a lot fewer people would die doing this
@serenawilliams6138 Жыл бұрын
This story truly terrifies me. I have heard countless other horror stories about caving and cave diving gone wrong, but this particular tale hits a real nerve. I simply can’t imagine how I would have handled this nightmare of a situation (I wouldn’t go into a cave hole unless it was a life or death kind of thing in the first place) but I have to give this poor guy credit for keeping it together. I would have very literally lost my Sh$t big time or would have asked for an overdose of morphine so I could have just died right away. What time did they all go into that cave? I tend to think that going in at nighttime (9pm) it’s a little late to go spelunking, and right before Thanksgiving. Why not go home and watch a football game? And stay away from anything called “birth canal” -he didn’t actually go through Birth Canal-he went through death canal, but it’s better to stay away from things that sound like, or rhyme with hell! Anyone who has ever birthed a baby knows that it’s not something that necessarily is guaranteed to go smoothly.
@Simp_Zone Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most horrifying stories period. What a horrible way to go 😳😳😳
@Firestarter12310 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking, ive experienced some heavy things but if this happened to me? oh man, morphine or a bullet in my head straight away. No way that i am gonna experience that horrible stress of being stuck
@Sacheen814 ай бұрын
I TOTALLY AGREE with you about the overdose of Morphine. That was the first thing I thought of... Well, besides the fact that I'd NEVER have gone down there to begin with! What an AWFUL way to go, and he suffered for sooooo long! I am not a paragon of bravery, if have begged for them to at least knock me out!!! RIP
@idlehands11111111112 жыл бұрын
Crawling into your own grave and not even realizing it. Caving, not even once.
@Its419games3 жыл бұрын
Just listening to this story makes me horrifically uncomfortable.
@drew2fast4893 жыл бұрын
Same 😫
@kimma5083 жыл бұрын
Me too. Really freaked me out. What a horrible way to die. My heart goes out to John’s family and the brave rescue workers.
@katie36573 жыл бұрын
I know, this gave me bad anxiety
@aeonjoey3d3 жыл бұрын
same, I shuddered when the cross-section images were shown, I'm not even claustrophobic, but god damn if I'll EVER put my body into such a small space.
@cruisepaige3 жыл бұрын
Me too! My heart is breaking,
@Joshow3133 күн бұрын
Recently I had my very first and exciting caving experience. The cave was huge, brightly lit, had hundreds of people walking upright, with rails to hold onto. It smelled like a wet basement but there was no sense of doom and gloom, just beauty. I gotta give people props for venturing outside the norm and doing what they love despite the risks. RIP to John.
@wendygreeff205 Жыл бұрын
So often KZfaq videos identified as horrifying are anything but. This one lived up to its reputation. What a sad and tragic story. RIP John.
@MinusColorGoji23 Жыл бұрын
damn he gone now r.i.p
@smbcollector3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just really want the story to have a happy ending.
@benperez84243 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I cant stop reading about it
@jere80663 жыл бұрын
Yup😂
@Lupuscrafter3 жыл бұрын
It said pretty much at the start that he would die... But yeah its sad it ended this way
@deViant143 жыл бұрын
You can tell when they don't interview them for the show that they're probably dead....wait that's not right 🤔
@cassidypresley32713 жыл бұрын
It's like......here today, yet you maybe gone tomorrow: life is short. Enjoy 😉 😉 it.....well you can!!
@cedesect2 жыл бұрын
ive heard this story many time before, and the words, "i really, really want to get out" still sends chills down my spine. tragic.
@wiseauserious87502 жыл бұрын
Plus he was a medical student so he was acutely aware of the physiological traumas that his body was undergoing
@cedesect2 жыл бұрын
@@wiseauserious8750 oh :(
@kaytea09632 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine being a family member knowing his body is still stuck down there. I know it's been sealed but part of me is just so uncomfortable with that
@SilverScreenDreamer2 жыл бұрын
@@kaytea0963 agreed, especially since he wanted so badly to get out. I hate that his final resting place is literally the place where he went through hell, and now his body is trapped there forever.
@electrictroy20102 жыл бұрын
1000s of people get buried underground every day. This is really no different
@Flamamacue Жыл бұрын
Beyond me how there exists such an insane hobby as extreme as cave exploring that doesn't have a robust, widely understood system that says "don't go this way, it's too small" when part of the hobby is that you have to push through small gaps at times to get to openings. Literally some red paint or a cross if a path shouldn't be explored.
@TarantuLandoCalcuLingus Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I used to be a caver, having only gotten really scared once. Freaked out and let it pass and thought clearly. This is not the same scenario. Out of all the gear that experienced cavers have on their person, why not a can of red paint? A univeral language would be born and hopefully a movement. Mark the unmapped passages, so at least you have a warning
@Flamamacue Жыл бұрын
@@TarantuLandoCalcuLingus especially after that particular path had already required a rescue of a small child. I get the desire to not gate it off but a simple warning or label that that is a very tight dead-end that ISN'T the Birth Canal seems like an extremely common sense system to have in place. I get there's probably some sentiment of wanting to explore and not have it laid out for you but good lord.
@TarantuLandoCalcuLingus Жыл бұрын
@@Flamamacue i know, i made an op but nobody will see it so i will tell you. With a popular tourist area wouldnt it be wise to have an above ground replica so people can at least try challenging sections before going undergound? Seems feasible to me
@Tindometari Жыл бұрын
This is the problem with extreme sports: It is *so* easy for inexperienced people to underestimate the hazards involved -- especially when they are over-convinced of both their own skills and the situation's 'safety'. And it only takes *one* error.
@liquidstereomusic3 жыл бұрын
Honestly props to the landowner. This is a case where many caving sites would probably attempt to sweep it under the rug, but this guy was so appalled he actually wanted to dynamite the cave.
@ryanslattery93403 жыл бұрын
i love that guy
@shikenkanade3 жыл бұрын
I'd bomb it too if it was my property. I'd spam the place with bombs.
@Dimension20103 жыл бұрын
Understandable, cause we guys just want to blow up something big and nice at least once in our life for whatever reason.
@billysolhurok55423 жыл бұрын
@@Dimension2010 blow'd up good
@mhm778873 жыл бұрын
agreed. the guy was very responcible.
@rallytonight84913 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the moment when he realized that he was NEVER going to get out?
@birdielee43283 жыл бұрын
I’d like to think he was in full denial and gradually became delirious.
@mojopopo3 жыл бұрын
I would also for a gun and to be alone
@PBRatLord3 жыл бұрын
He was most likely knocked unconscious when he dropped back down, that rush of blood and that jerking stop when he had already been in that state for so long was probably too much for his brain. I'd like to think that besides the snapping rope, his final moments were spent with a sense of relief at being able to at least see someone again, if only briefly...
@joayriaali3 жыл бұрын
OMG 😱🤢😥
@Kraken99113 жыл бұрын
@@mojopopo He couldn't even kill himself. His arms were locked in place one arm behind his back and the other I forgot where but useless.
@MrMrMrprofessor Жыл бұрын
This story and the story of Floyd Collins are the reasons I have no desire to ever go caving. Also, apparently some cavers were extremely against the idea of Nutty Putty caves being closed and even made a petition to stop them from being closed to the public (never mind the fact that Jones's body was still in the cave and the decision was being made in his memory). In 2018, someone went as far as to vandalize the memorial plaque outside the cave. Classy.
@themessageman2760 Жыл бұрын
I dont get why some people understand that someone DIED there and that blocking the cave was probably for everyone's safety anyways
@epmcgee Жыл бұрын
@@themessageman2760 you mean instead of doing the responsible thing and blocking off a dangerous unmapped tunnel that people had already been stuck in before? I don't get why people like you don't understand that he never had to die in the first place, and the cave system would still be open and safe.
@epmcgee Жыл бұрын
When you're paying remembrance to the stupidity of two people, the caver and the property owner, it doesn't really matter. There were many options to keep these caves safe that should have been implemented well before this event happened, and could have easily been implemented thereafter.
@mickeybee Жыл бұрын
@@epmcgee Woah! Relax there, buddy! MessageMan was just saying he can't understand how/why someone would vandalise a memorial to a young man who died in horrible circumstances. You can say, 'he never had to die in the first place', but...... that's of absolutely no use now, is it? You have to deal with the reality of the situation, not what you would have *liked* to have happened. The fact is, those caves are now a burial site, a grave. They could not get poor John's body out, and so they really had to close the caves. For a person/people, to then come and vandalise the gravesite of this man - his memorial - a place that means so much to all those who tried and failed to rescue John, *let alone* for his family, friends and tragically, children...... Well, what kind of person would do something like that, Hudson Hamman? P.s. I hope that out of all the many, many mistakes you have made, and will inevitably continue to make in your life, none of them are as tragic as John's was. But that said, learn some humility man - your attitude stinks.
@epmcgee Жыл бұрын
@@mickeybee "Woah, relax!" Is pretty ironic before you go off on a rant. Even if I do make mistakes, at least I'm not so egotistical and dumb that I'm going to trap myself in a cave and die leaving grieving family members behind. 😌 The fact is those caves were a burial site before John died in there, since others had died before him. If it's about safety they could have easily made it safe after the numerous incidents that had happened over the years prior to John dying.
@jessicafouse37602 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched most of your videos and this is one that kept me on the edge of my seat and brought tears to my eyes. RIP John
@taami6783 жыл бұрын
The real question is why is there no sign in the cave that says “birth canal turn right” or something
@thedolphin54283 жыл бұрын
Yeah, or one before where he got to that said "DEAD END". Often, in my experience, other cavers leave such signs for the safety of others.
@chatteyj3 жыл бұрын
You would have thought that when the passageway started going down vertically that he might have questioned if it was the right way to go.
@AB-mx1de3 жыл бұрын
It was a crude, undeveloped cave in the desert. But it's a fair question. I thought this place was terrifying before this tragedy happened.
@thedolphin54283 жыл бұрын
@@AB-mx1de I have done some amateur caving in very similar places. They are just tunnels and holes in the earth that Councils leave open and undeveloped for exploratory fun -- with *complete user liability*. Therefore the golden rules are -- inform someone of arrival and expected departure time, be prepared with proper equipment AND BACK UPS, be fit for the task, take no chances, have good maps and/or use string tracking back to entrance, go with backup mates, no drugs or alcohol, never enter any crawl space you aren't sure you can get out of, beware low oxygen, beware strange odours, set your limits, etc. And most of all, BLAME NOONE ELSE if something goes wrong.
@thedolphin54283 жыл бұрын
@BobsYourUncle Yep, but just because you can contort your body INTO some passageway doesn't mean you can contort it to get OUT OF that same place. The human body just doesn t work like that. Plus, as you get hotter and push more, you get bigger. Most cavers know this and play safe. And it just isn't necessary to take such risks. And for what? Some fun, some thrills? Some showing off? Blind ambition. No one is saying it in this forum, but that guy was a risk taking idiot. No excuses. He wasn't "unlucky". It wasn't a "dangerous cave". He was just an idiot who didn't play it safe.
@joekite86893 жыл бұрын
The fact that he is still there to this day haunts me.
@gdesiree293 жыл бұрын
Ya same. It's not like his body was removed and he got a proper burial. He's still there, upside-down in a dark cave wearing the same clothes 12 years later
@thebigtricky91562 жыл бұрын
As opposed to being buried underground elsewhere ? AS far as burial sites go, he has an entire cave sytem as his own Tomb. his coffin was created over milllions of years. I think people forget why we bury dead people. Its seems to me people want to bury there dead for convenience. when you bury sombody in a place, its firstly becuase we cant leave dead people laying about, and second becuase it creates a place of memorial. seems to me both needs are filled. I for one would prefer this burial, than being placed in a line with every other smoe that has passed.
@barneyboyle69332 жыл бұрын
T H E F A C T T H A T
@shastsle2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigtricky9156 He said he wanted to get out of the cave so they should have gotten him out even when he was already dead.
@NicxCoay2 жыл бұрын
@♃_неороманист_♃ Wow, so you’re a really awful person, huh? I feel bad for you, having to spend everyday with such a horrible person. Must be rough.
@annieeames2282 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather used to go caving, he never had something like this happen, but his stories had already had be noping away from any cave, and THIS just seals the deal
@digitaldazzle5836 Жыл бұрын
I have a brother also named Josh and I cannot imagine ever leaving him behind. This gives me such claustrophobia and anxiety. It’s beyond belief! I felt myself being sucked into an abyss, not being able to breathe while watching this.
@venator95363 жыл бұрын
You know, I'm used to watch videos on gruesome crimes or weird stuff like that and my tolerance for "horror" stuff is pretty high, but this for some reason hits differently. As you were describing the events unfold, I found myself breathing abnormally, feeling unwell and very anxious. The idea of getting stuck somewhere dark that you cant move a single muscle and slowly dying as you witness rescuers unable to help you... Is just the ultimate nightmare from my perspective. Now seeing how he is a skeleton still stuck down there truly makes my mind uneasy.
@xpan1953 жыл бұрын
Same, when I first heard about this story years ago I was absolutely horrified and disturbed by the entire terrible ordeal of people trying to bring him out and failing. Like playing tug of war with the jaws of a monster only to leave him there. In a dark, cold, claustrophobic cave, alone. I think it’s because every aspect of this story goes against just every person’s inherent fear of suffocatingly small spaces and the dark and being trapped alone. If this story doesn’t keep people getting into these terrifying situations, idk what will
@tobytheoceanlinerbuilder10783 жыл бұрын
Yep I found out about this story when I was in year 6 at school and I generally couldn’t sleep for days and I will never now go into a crawl tight cave ever even though it was 4 years ago I still feel the pain and suffering the poor guy went through I just hope they never open the cave again because he deserves to have a peaceful resting place. Rest peacefully John
@barbararab63903 жыл бұрын
It definetly feels like his soul might also be trapped down there, unable to get out
@carjockey21353 жыл бұрын
his body wouldn't even be in the same place now, remember he couldn't fit through the hole and he was upside down. as his body was decaying, eventually, it fell through whatever hole he was in. so..... that means randomly, weeks to months later in that sealed up silent cave, there was an ehco, a bomb of a body falling somewhere. and then. silent once more.
@joshgobble3 жыл бұрын
@@barbararab6390 you are a ridiculous person
@JasonMahipat3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this story so many times now, and I still can’t get over how terrible a fate this is.
@Bernieboii363 жыл бұрын
There’s a movie on it called The last descent
@Bernieboii363 жыл бұрын
It’s very sad but quite good I would recommend watching it if u r interested
@thelegendlink81113 жыл бұрын
@@Bernieboii36 where can i watch it?
@king_sutter3 жыл бұрын
@@thelegendlink8111 Amazon Prime Video
@leval10003 жыл бұрын
What was his motive to go down there?
@BlitzedPort Жыл бұрын
Caves so rarely let people go. It's like they're sentient, but not malicious. Like any predator that must eat, it's nature. The caves have complex air currents, like they're breathing. They truly horrify me. Going into the mouth of a cave feels like walking into the mouth of any great beast.
@mariea82 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@sheeshert Жыл бұрын
Plagiarism
@BlitzedPort Жыл бұрын
@@sheeshert ???
@pixie74352 жыл бұрын
Such a shame they could'nt pull him out after death . Now he's trapped there for eternity. What a nightmare. Absolute props to the rescue workers! They are incredible!
@Holychickendinner Жыл бұрын
His physical body is down there. His spirit is alive and well in Heaven. His family will see him again. And if you don't believe that, that's just sad.
@pixie7435 Жыл бұрын
@@Holychickendinner who said I didn't? And even if I don't believe that , and that we are just like every other living organism. That should be respected, and isn't sad at all . Because regardless, he lives on in his children and there's etc etc . I think the emergency workers were incredible in this sad tragic situation. And I find it a shame that his body was never recovered so he may finally be released. But it's his grave now and it was too dangerous for anyone to even attempt to get him out , even after death and it would've been a grim recovery
@Parasmunt8 ай бұрын
Many of us go down into the Earth, the rest go into the atmosphere. What happens to the body is of little importance except to his family and it is now his tomb like any tomb, they can go and visit at least. Pity more those whose family members' bodies are never found.
@Lyvee933 жыл бұрын
Nothing about this cave system sounds good for beginners.
@michaelbeholder3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@melissajohnson29353 жыл бұрын
Right!
@NivellenMcJazzy3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it doesn't sound very fun for anyone considering how narrow they're describing it but maybe I only think that because you couldn't pay me enough money to enter any cave
@Lyvee933 жыл бұрын
Big Man Gaming I’ve been spelunking and it’s terrifying but a blast! We almost got caught in a flash flood though. 😬
@325aliceI3 жыл бұрын
Right?! I would think beginner caves would have a walk path with handrail and adequate lighting.......and maybe even handicap accessible...!
@anthonyhayes12673 жыл бұрын
I cannot begin to describe how frustrating it is that they almost got him out
@blitzie663 жыл бұрын
yeah, i can’t comprehend how awful this feels for his loved ones and i hope they’re staying strong
@hongkongfueynz30713 жыл бұрын
Not as frustrated as he was I bet!
@RepresentWV3 жыл бұрын
This video makes it seem like he was close and the only that happened was the bolt snapping. That was the last straw indeed, but from what I've seen the angle he was in made actual rescue impossible without completely destroying his legs, which would've probably killed him from shock with how much pain he was in already due to being upside down. Just a really sucky situation.
@arianebolt15753 жыл бұрын
@@RepresentWV His legs hadn't had a pulse in hours. I'd say give it a try, if they could. But they couldn't, because the rock gave out. That passage should have been closed off after the earlier accident.
@michalaswindail7833 жыл бұрын
@@RepresentWV In fairness, it very well could have been close to rescue - paralyzed or legless, perhaps, maybe even with shock induced brain damage, but alive. The bolt coming loose really put the nail in the coffin though, as brutal as that metaphor is considering it was sealed up to be his tomb (which, can I just say, was remarkably respectful? Especially when the owner wanted to dynamite it.)
@SeniorCharry2 жыл бұрын
Just hearing this story made me shiver. Can't imagine how this dude felt.
@annehersey9895 Жыл бұрын
OMG!! I lived in Utah for 11 years and never once even heard of the Nutty Putty caves or I probably would have hiked in there! Thanks for bringing this to our attention! I love that you address items that either didn't get much national attention or that we've forgotten about. I shared your episode on the Cleveland Clinic with a friend from Ohio who had had heart surgery there and he had never even heard of it.
@TheGoodDoktor44513 жыл бұрын
I have literally never felt this much anxiety just lying in bed.
@davidmitchley11443 жыл бұрын
Same...rough.
@sheenal48683 жыл бұрын
Me too
@hassan0504283 жыл бұрын
Same 🤣
@Sebastiantheonewithlonghair3 жыл бұрын
Me too. What a horrifying fate.
@monda78063 жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@ADrunkCrayfish3 жыл бұрын
Imagine dying so tragically in a place called the Nutty Putty Cave.
@dx14503 жыл бұрын
Actually when I clicked on the video I thought it was about a miniature golf place or something...
@dx14503 жыл бұрын
Actually when I clicked on the video I thought it was about a miniature golf place or something...
@Neil_MALTHUS3 жыл бұрын
Imagine a piano falling on your head. Wouldn't really matter though, would it? That's the whole point of being dead?
@hotaru83093 жыл бұрын
@@Neil_MALTHUS Imagine the world's largest rubberband ball instead, or the sculpture of a giant highchair. It's awful but the point was that someone died by something childish and whimsical sounding whose name makes people instinctively laugh or smile, no matter how much sympathy they have for you. It's unintentionally undignified.
@hotaru83093 жыл бұрын
How you're remembered is a part of yourself that you leave behind when you die, so it does have weight wity many people and those that remember them. It's unfortunate, though I'd want to make them smile, probably not that way. Someone I loved had a relative choose a photo they wanted wiped off the face of the earth for being unflattering as the main photo used in all the funeral/rememberance of life ceremony. That I could life with ...er die with. A bad hair day photo that only makes those who knew me well crack up during the service.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns Жыл бұрын
Imagine a situation so terrible that there is not even a way to retrieve your dead body. This is nightmare fuel of medieval proportions.
@Smedley19473 ай бұрын
Like the Titanic submersible that imploded. Although they were dead probably 5 milliseconds, I'm sure they were aware that it was about to happen due to the popping sounds Etc.
@Romeu021 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand why those people find fascinating do put themselves in tiny, claustrophobic, dark places where you can barely move and breathe, but that's just me
@MuffinRecord3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how this channel handles death. Emphasis isn't placed on shock and horror, but instead there is a considerable amount of respect given to those who have passed.
@LastTorgoInParis3 жыл бұрын
i agree. all the vids iv seen on this channel do a good job of remembering the humanity of the victims and it doenst feel as callous as some other similar channels
@UncoordinatedPixie3 жыл бұрын
Check out Mr. Ballen. He’s also very good at storytelling and is respectful of the deaths and even did a story about John Jones’s death which is how I found this channel.
@MuffinRecord3 жыл бұрын
@@UncoordinatedPixie I'll have to take a look, thank you!
@malloryg42513 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. He shows so much respect for the people who lost their lives, and gives people an opportunity to not only learn about them, but also learn from others mistakes.
@didi0125783 жыл бұрын
Till you get to the comment section.
@montague88782 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the most terrifying videos you’ve made. I felt my body tense up as you described his position and how he could barely breathe
@TheJer19632 жыл бұрын
Watch the movie The Last Decent as it is about this. Very good movie.
@j-tastic2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJer1963 just watched this video and saw your comment. I'm now watching this movie on Tubi.
@matthewmosier84392 жыл бұрын
@MARQUIS de QUEENSBURY 5.0 Pretty sure that fall after the bolt came out killed him. The labored breathing was probably as he passed away from a broken blood vessel in his head. It was already a danger before his whole body dropped suddenly... imagine afterwards.
@makemecry66042 жыл бұрын
Yeah im scared of driving or walking into tunnels or under bridges cause they can collapse on you, i would never go in a cave. Thats just my biggest fear. Im not claustrophobic but this is still a big NO
@MissAmynae Жыл бұрын
Probably the only video of yours I haven't been able to finish. Not at all because of you, but I have a crippling fear of this exact situation! And drowning. You do such a great job of keeping things to just the facts, without sensationalizing or bumping up the drama--because you don't need to, the horror is already there. I really appreciate and enjoy your content. Thank you for treating these folks and horrors with respect & dignity. I feel like you really do research and find the cause & effect of these situations, rather than "who's to blame, let's attack them!"
@Trollgernautt Жыл бұрын
I knew this story before watching this video when it came out, and now youtube decided to sugest this video again after 2 years and I rewatched it. It still is one of the saddest stories out there, what a terrible way to go John, at such a young age, may you rest in peace.
@NipsnTips10993 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the worst way to die. Watching stuff like this really makes me appreciate life and the people I have.
@nyancat22213 жыл бұрын
Is that so, darth tyrannus?
@mstripling863 жыл бұрын
only one i think is worse is the mossdale caves incident, they were doing this while the cave got flooded - not only were they stuck but the water rushed in and they drowned too - its quicker but i;d rather have time to say goodbye to my family at least.
@magierac3 жыл бұрын
You sure didn't appreciate Jedi Sifo Dyas's life
@screamindog87723 жыл бұрын
I can’t look at that pfp and not think “lollipop”
@attackofthejackolanterns87652 жыл бұрын
@@screamindog8772 “cavities on a stick”
@Snowy2653 жыл бұрын
Seeing that diagram of his position in th cave freaked me out.
@DavO_6663 жыл бұрын
He's the no 1 Stupid human in my book.. Just see tht narrow passage who cud really think they can make it through tht hole..
@hitrapperandartistdababy3 жыл бұрын
@@DavO_666 show some respect idiot. John had no way of knowing he was in the wrong cave system, he trusted what he thought was the birth canal, nothing of this is to be blamed on him. This was a set of unfortunate circumstances that at many moments could have been avoided
@DavO_6663 жыл бұрын
@@hitrapperandartistdababy No fck anyone wid brain can easily figure it out how narrow tht passage is. Ya He earned my respect for showing how to not to be dumb as him.
@hitrapperandartistdababy3 жыл бұрын
@Endless Sporadic Living life means doing things not always safe. Have you ever gone for a bike ride or hiked in the mountains? Ever took a swim in the ocean or gone for a drive? Guess what? You just risked your life needlessly. He went into that cave knowing it was beginner friendly. He wasnt trying to challenge himself by going a harder route, he kept to the known path or so he thought. Now had he explored some unknown caves on purpose I would agree it was stupid, but fucking hell he went to a beginner friendly cave for some light cave exploring!
@hitrapperandartistdababy3 жыл бұрын
@@DavO_666 how the fuck would you know how narrow the passage where? He was crawling around in a dark tight space and hadnt tried out the cave before. All he knew was that the section he thought he was in was supposed to be narrow and so he kept going. How the fuck can you have the audacity to tell what he should have known or could have known when you wherent there?
@noneofyourbusiness9369 Жыл бұрын
Our hearts go out to his family and friends. So young with so much still to do.
@Leonismychild Жыл бұрын
The only Caves i’m ever going in are Caves that are absolutely massive. Tiny, crawl sized caves are literally the most terrifying places i could ever imagine. I’m a Person who loves Caves, but i’d never go in one that wasn’t Caveman home sized all the way through. These people are insane who go into these small caves. I just could not imagine.
@Emma-rr3kp3 жыл бұрын
His poor wife was probably waiting outside that cave sobbing her eyes out, and only praying that her husband would survive
@Spooky_Spookerson3 жыл бұрын
Imagine her having to explain to their child the his/her dad died in a “nutty putty” cave.
@brandichrishowe44523 жыл бұрын
It’s gets worse. I had the opportunity to hear her talk about her side of the experience. They were able to lower a radio for her to talk to him and she had her last words with him about an hour before he passed.
@LauraR0ckzLolz3 жыл бұрын
Makes it worse when you find out he had a 1 year old with another on the way :(
@kv23153 жыл бұрын
true but he wanted that darwin award really bad
@SteRDLK3 жыл бұрын
@@kv2315 Congratulations on not understanding whatsoever the concept of the "Darwin award".
@ambercason51003 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who would be way too terrified to go into this cave in the first place? How is this fun to people? I guess I’m too scared of dark places and creepy crawlies and the monsters from the descent.
@myadorablefosters3 жыл бұрын
I know! It's not even like it would be cool to see! You have to crawl through it like a damn worm! Caving is not for me, but I get why people wanna go in ones that have rivers and caverns and stalagmites and places they have to rappel past. This crap was nothing but a super tight rock tube they whole entire way. Why?!?
@GladyatorGladys3 жыл бұрын
Yess lol exactly!!
@lorabetht92063 жыл бұрын
My husband tried to get me to go with him to some caves on our Honeymoon (we went to a Dude Ranch in Arkansas). I had a severe panic attack almost immediately and had to back out. Not my idea of a fun time!!!
@beckycarter92113 жыл бұрын
It would never, ever dawn on me to slip inside a small crack or hole in a rock for fun!!
@AlottaBoulchit3 жыл бұрын
God yes the thought of the shit down there alone would keep me out much less the tightness. Then there's not enough freaking air down there so WHY WOULD YOU GO THAT'S NOT FUN. I think people have just grown up romanticizing explorers and want to think they'll find some magical undiscovered crap in these holes. No THANK YOU. AND those that go into holes like this but UNDER WATER are even MORE psycho. Nothing is worth dying for especially a stupid "thrill." The only thrills I want to seek and discoveries I want to make are awesome sales at my local art store. UGH
@user-lv2ky4ts2l10 ай бұрын
In spite of this entire horror story, just recently in 2022 a man got stuck in a cave in south dakota. Thankfully after 18 hours rescuers were able to successfully free him so he did not suffer the fate of John Jones. He is very lucky that he was not upside down because he was also stuck in a 90 degree bend but this one was horizontal not vertical, that is the only reason he survived.
@tommy.xaviermarks2 жыл бұрын
Your video provides precise clear maps of the cave, which I haven't found in other nutty putty videos. Great jobs! It's like adding great 7 ways surround sound effect to a movie & a powerful lesson to never try to spelunk anywhere in my life. R.I.P. John 🙏