The Oathbreaker Paladin: d4
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Күн бұрынOur D&D character build this week is an attempt to answer this question: is the worst Paladin also the best? Evil, perhaps, but so, so Good.
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Character Concept:(0:00)
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Level 1:(10:47)
Levels 2-6:(14:30)
Levels 7-9:(35:02)
Levels 10-13:(37:54)
Levels 14-17:(44:37)
Final Thoughts:(52:01)
Outtakes:(54:02)
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@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
Errata! Dreadful aspect doesn't allow for saves *until* the enemy is 30+ feet away from you at the end of their turn - before that, no saves.
@_malprivate2543 Жыл бұрын
I second the suggestion of spooky builds! Perhaps a blood hunter again?
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
@@_malprivate2543 You shall be pleased with the script I'm writing now...
@Rabijeel Жыл бұрын
There is one Aspect also important to the Hexblade: The Hexblades Curse not beeing a Spell and adding critchance. Also there is a nice advantage to the multiple Warlock level because of Relentless Hex beeing a free misty step when transferring hex to friendly targets - a dastardly move.
@alexschmidt9053 Жыл бұрын
You don't account for it in the math (from what I can tell), but the attacks that our mount make also benefit from our aura of hate. It uses the statblock of a warhorse but is technically a feind celestial or undead.
@KilogramHours Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is cursed beyond belief
@esbeng.s.a9761 Жыл бұрын
nope he just forgot to put the filter on
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
@@esbeng.s.a9761 lol!
@fuzzysquirrel Жыл бұрын
Bahahaha!
@axioml3393 Жыл бұрын
I'm just disappointed he isn't actually in guyliner, black lipstick and black nail polish. He'd ROCK it
@Rabijeel Жыл бұрын
Not at all. Nothing tops "Dick Pixie - Seducer Bard". Also, autotranslate make this a Pull out Master.... Oathbreaker.... seriously, randomness is dirty on its own.
@gaidencastro9706 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail automatically gives this build a +2 to intimidation checks.
@RequisitionMeABeat Жыл бұрын
But so, so accurate.
@John-xd9wr Жыл бұрын
+2 to emo damage
@totallynottoby Жыл бұрын
"I'm taking polearm master, but I'm not doing what you think I'm doing" Well I guess we aren't multiclassing into hexblade then. ... "And we're going hexblade here" *I look into the camera like I'm on the office*
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
LOL
@christopheregger1091 Жыл бұрын
I assume he meant PM/Sentinel. XD
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
@@christopheregger1091 Indeed
@GunnarWahl Жыл бұрын
@@christopheregger1091 or PM/HWM
@killcat1971 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say I'd have considered the Undead Warlock, for the Dreadful aspect.
@Payko777 Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight: If Multiple Ability Dependent is equal to MAD, and Single Ability Dependent is equal to SAD. Is Dual Ability Dependent equal to DAD?
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
lol. I like.
@jk2l Жыл бұрын
I can see you are making a DAD joke...
@stevenyoung9738 Жыл бұрын
I guess playing a sad build is fatherless behavior
@Thriving_in_Exile 10 ай бұрын
A TAD bit, sure.
@Ouch193 7 ай бұрын
@@Thriving_in_ExileTriple Ability-Score Dependent?
@jaredpuwalski8545 Жыл бұрын
Revan was a good guy! Gotta love the KOTOR reference.
@fuzzysquirrel Жыл бұрын
KOTOR was GOAT for it's time
@Axel-zc6xj Жыл бұрын
CRITS HAVE BEEN REVERTED BACK IN ONE DND!!!! It's ok now, you can rest easy :3
@abcrasshadow9341 Жыл бұрын
It was playtest, nothing was certain.
@kclubok Жыл бұрын
Minor correction: Creatures affected by Dreadful Aspect do not get saving throws on their turns unless they move 30 feet away. Moving that far away doesn't simply end the effect; rather it allows them to start making saving throws. Really powerful feature!
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the catch! Pinned a comment.
@mitchhaelann9215 Жыл бұрын
A good oath to break if you're dipping Warlock is the Oath of Watchers. You swore to defend the world against the horrors of the Outside. You fought demons and faeries, and aberations, but something whispered in your ear. Something helped you in your time of need, when the gods would have let you and those you protect die.
@McTacoDelight Жыл бұрын
My longest running character is a lawful evil bard. In 3.5 she was a dirge singer, and now in 5e she's a prosecution lawyer. You know, lawful evil! My friend has a concept "The Imp of the Perverse". It's that little voice that says "what would happen if you just closed your eyes and stepped on the gas pedal, how far do you think you'd get before you crashed?" I play evil characters that way. I'm not always going to kick puppies, but if the clearly evil mayor asks me to kill his son-in-law and the price is right, I'm going to do it. I'm not going to sabotage the group, I'm not a sociopath. Lots of evil people live full, productive lives! They become world leaders, tech giants and religious leaders. Just because you're evil doesn't mean good people can't like you.
@theeldritchknight6498 Жыл бұрын
Can we get some spooky builds for Halloween? Like a witch or necromancer or something?
@linuxpenguin823 Жыл бұрын
This is straying from the single/dual character format, but a classic "halloween" optimized party would be pretty fun! A Vampire, a werewolf, a witch, an undead (zombie), and a devil
@wolfthunderspirit2709 Жыл бұрын
@@linuxpenguin823 Hmmm..... Vampire: Damphir - (Tank) Paladin/ Sorc - "I've come to take over" Werewolf: Shifter - (DPR) Blood Hunter/ Barbarian - "Arooooooooo!" Witch: Hexblood - (Arcane/ Support) Bard/ Warlock/ Sorc - "I curse you!" Undead: Reborn - (Heals/ DPR) Cleric - "Your job isn't done yet" Devil: Tiefling - (Face/ Ranged Sneaks) Ranger/ Rogue - "What you don't see can hurt you" I like this concept. How do we optimize this group? I started it ... ideas?
@Mitcheck315 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfthunderspirit2709 I feel like if you're going a paladin multiclass for a vampire character then conquest paladin/undead warlock is extremely on brand
@nicheva417 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a pure hag.
@wolfthunderspirit2709 Жыл бұрын
@@Mitcheck315 so few Spells, most are concentration, none really with any oomph. I mean, a level or two, but no heavy investment. Conquest/ Shadow has potential, but the fear thing he already did, and then, why Damphir when Leonin did it better? There's no Enchantment/ Charm sorc is there?
@BLynn Жыл бұрын
The Oathbreaker Paladin: d4 #111 Level 1:(see above) [paladin 1 & race] Level 2:(see above) [paladin 2 & fighting-style] Level 3:(@17:02) [paladin 3 & sub-class] Level 4:(@17:53) [warlock 1 & patron] Level 5:(@26:38) [paladin 4 & ASI] Level 6:(@30:05) [paladin 5] Level 7:(see above) [paladin 6] Level 8:(@35:32) [paladin 7] Level 9:(@36:50) [paladin 8 & ASI] Level 10:(see above) [paladin 9] Level 11:(@41:52) [paladin 10] Level 12:(@42:16) [paladin 11] Level 13:(@42:31) [paladin 12 & ASI] Level 14:(see above) [paladin 13] Level 15:(@45:46) [sorcerer 1 & sub-class] Level 16:(@49:21) [sorcerer 2] Level 17:(@49:34) [sorcerer 3]
@Onorel Жыл бұрын
Matt Colville made great videos about alignment, where he says that to him, an evil PC would be someone who, when faced with a choice between peaceful conflict resolution & violence, they would rather choose the most belligerant or warmonging option. Under that definition, you could totally be on the side of good and play and evil character. Like the Punisher says to Daredevil; "You hit'em and they get back up. I hit'em and they stay down!"
@HSuper_Lee Жыл бұрын
Similarly, I'd argue that being evil doesn't mean you can't care about people. You can play an evil character and totally care about your party and want to help them in any way you can. The character can even the party more than their own life. It's just that in some way they're going to deviate from righteous morality. And it's going to differ based on whether they're lawful, neutral, or chaotic. But evil, while it often manifests as selfishness, doesn't necessarily need to be selfish. There are many other kinds of evil out there that make for an interesting TTRPG character.
@Onorel Жыл бұрын
@@HSuper_Lee Totally agree, doesn't have to be a cartoonishly evil character, maybe they're just so dang angry all the time, and they're fighting against it, but it ends up getting the better of them.
@vinspad3 Жыл бұрын
Mass Effect, Princess Bride, and Star Wars references all within the first 10 minutes. Colby's going for the cycle!
@vinspad3 Жыл бұрын
300 & Civ. He's done it folks!
@vinspad3 Жыл бұрын
Heel turn after 4th, Babyface turn at 15?! *Mind blown* Wait - Find Greater Steed takes on celestial, fey, or FIEND! So your Steed will do extra damage on attacks! You likely accounted for that, but I think I missed it when you were talking about it.
@HSuper_Lee Жыл бұрын
Apparently we need "If You Give a Mouse A Cookie" but remade into a D&D version, "If You Take A Level In Warlock."
@erikbell1723 Жыл бұрын
Feel like a Dhampir Oathbreaker would nicely allow you to be a good evil Paladin because you didn’t choose to become a dhampir but you just gotta deal
@caydenkinzebach9796 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing as the Oath of Redemption Paladin in my campaign is going through his villain arc
@Forbeplay Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite thumbnails 😂 Shoutout to that KOTOR reference though.
@fuzzysquirrel Жыл бұрын
Edgy alter ego Colby ftw
@shl6367 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been on a binge watch since knowing you from your bg3 builds
@thad594 Жыл бұрын
Love this concept! Reminds me of the Scarlet Crusade from WoW. Originally devoted to protecting mortals, their zeal drives them insane and sees anyone who isn’t part of the crusade as a hindrance defeating the blight of the undead.
@Ricardo-zo1ti Жыл бұрын
Come for the dnd videos, stay for the princess bride references
@fuzzysquirrel Жыл бұрын
Inconseivable!
@ardet7383 Жыл бұрын
You seem a nice fellow
@tristanwellisch2637 Жыл бұрын
The biggest plot twist in this video is that he said "Do say that" in the outtakes. Never thought I'd live to see the day.
@JFKwentAFK_ Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see Colby go through an emo phase, let's see how this goes XD
@fuzzysquirrel Жыл бұрын
Haha
@Dddeltari Жыл бұрын
I love this build because I am obsessed with spear/shield paladins right now. Currently playing an oath of the open sea paladin with a spear reflavored as a harpoon. PAM, crusher, fury of the tides, and shield master make for a great shove character :)
@syrupchugger421 6 ай бұрын
This looks like the best pally build for me, I'm always wanting a Melee build that can do more and this can do it all. Thank you for the video!
@emanuelesacchi8904 Жыл бұрын
I've played evil characters in two different campaigns over my long, long years of playing D&D (33 years now). One was a "pragmatic" evil warlock - not bloodthirsty or needlessly violent, he was basically a very focused guy who didn't have any moral scruples to kill people who were in the way of his plans and his research. For the rest, he was very sociable and pleasant - a pretty likable sociopath. The other was a real piece of work. A paladin, broken by calamity, who spiraled into drinking and violent behavior, forsake his vows and ultimately became a sadistic and depraved psycho who consorted with demons on a regular basis and brutally sacrificed dozens of innocents to appease his dark gods.
@branharak1331 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, per usual!---LOL! the outtakes are fantastic!
@vanman118 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, currently in the process of putting a OOV pally together off your build from last year. Great advise, doesn't leave anything out and explains the why behind everything.
@justinfreitas4871 Жыл бұрын
Great job Colby! I enjoyed the build and presentation.
@kajetanmazurkiewicz5459 Жыл бұрын
You're amazing Colby! Every time you say "welcome home" my heart melts a little! Be good and kind! ❤️
@swxqt6826 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail gives your melee damage rolls extra psychic damage equal to your Charisma modifier.
@t2nwolf Жыл бұрын
'Really cramping my style, whitey.' Is the name of my debut album.
@Glandulf19 Жыл бұрын
I currently didn't finish the video BUT I have to stop and comment : when the short for this video got out, I commented and talked about my Oathbreaker Pally and why playing in an evil character worked for me... And I'm sooo amazed to see that for now (20 mins into the video), it's the exact build I've been running for the past 2 years (except he's a V-Human instead of Custom Lineage) + the design by Randall just looks like him. This channel never ceases to feel like home ❤️
@pandaman123213 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome build! Thanks!
@theFunkyThumb Жыл бұрын
Congrats on hitting 60k Colby! Glad ive been here since the 1k days
@genitalhermes1346 Жыл бұрын
The Dreadful Aspect channel divinity does not automatically end if the creature ends its turn more than 30 feet away, nor does it always allow for a save at the end of a turn. Instead, it allows a saving throw only if the creature ends its turn more than 30 feet away, which makes it more reliable than described.
@Bazindii Жыл бұрын
Colby! Thank you so much for this channel. You're a font of knowledge who's depths know no bounds. I've been listening to your videos for almost 2 years and I owe you much for my understanding of class mechanics. I've watched over a hundred videos and played 2 of your builds but listening to your breakdowns of classes, spells, feats and the rest have peeled back the veils and demystified the minutia of 5e. I am a MUCH better player just from listening to your nerd-crooning. Under $2 a month to be a member on your channel is silly. I've paid so much more for so much less. :'D Have you removed the build breakdowns? I still see dmg charts but I seem to be missing the level by level guides that were tucked in to your perks section. Thanks again for all the care, consideration and "welcomeness" that you put in to your home for character builders! I hope the new year brings you much goodness, kindness and happiness; Keep those Princess Bride references coming! PS. I'd buy swag ;)
@Trostlos3 Жыл бұрын
Very nice concept, i like the distinct and different feel to a "usual" paladin. Most people shy away from necromantic paladins. As another idea for a different kind of Paladin, maybe a mind controlling, telekinetic or psychic damage dealing bastion who disturbes his enemys by his mere presence. Loved the Psi Knife btw ;)
@schuepbachr Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Blackguard archetype. Nice work this week Colby! Re: Evil alignment. There was a breakdown somewhere that basically described the good/evil axis of alignment is more like selfless vs selfish. Good aligned characters put others first, evil aligned ones put themselves ahead of all else.
@shanedsouza189 Жыл бұрын
An alternative start to consider: Begin with Warlock 1, giving you access to some very nice spells and early charisma boons. From there, you could say that your character's relationship with their evil patron changes significantly, from a form of transaction to godly worship. Channeling your devotion to the dark side, you can start to gain oathbreaker features and move forward with your dark side paladin.
@ebjgtravel2100 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if included but I've just been doing my own Hexblade Paladin build and saw on the wording of Find Steed you can choose for it to be a fiend, so then your warhorse gets the damage bonus from Aura of Hate! I'm sure you included it in your calculations, but I thought it was neat - almost tempted to break my oath, though kind of hard to break a vengeance oath haha
@M4DR1U5 Жыл бұрын
Colby out of context: "Ughhhh... you are REALLY cramping my style, whitie!" 😂
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
😬😂
@shizzlenitts4757 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video. I highly recommend becoming a member. The ease with with Colby has made it to access the graphs, tables and character concept sheets is awesome. I've been playing for decades and I love that I can just whip up a character on NPC using the spreadsheets to challenge my party. Amazing job team!!!!
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@trkyslyr7672 Жыл бұрын
“Ugh, you’re cramping my style, whitey” has so much meme potential
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
😂
@jordanw2741 Жыл бұрын
I love these badass named builds... If for no other reason, it means that the episode will start with the hard rock intro!
@devy2893 Жыл бұрын
“You are really cramping my style, whitey” chill 😂
@HybridHerps Жыл бұрын
TBH, I think the thing with “evil“ in DND is that evil doesn’t necessarily mean stereo typical bad guy, but more someone that is selfish or self-serving or would do the thing that benefits themselves versus the thing that benefits everyone else. Like, I’ve always liked the idea of a character being “evil“ that isn’t really someone who’s actively trying to hurt everyone else around them, but it’s just selfish or if they are going to help others it’s only because they’re getting a benefit out of it directly, like everything they do even if it does help others Is being done for the wrong reasons, like wanting fake or glory or not caring about the little guy
@peterthompson760 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I like this particular combination. I have a similar build that starts with 1 level of Divine Soul followed by 1 level of Hexblade. This gives me Constitution Saves and a Spell Slot Progression bump, but delays Extra Attack to level 7. I then go 12 levels of Oathbreaker followed by 6 levels of Divine Soul.
@muddlewait8844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for still having the peaceful renaissance music in the background once you get going despite the rockin’ into.
@carsonlake3842 Жыл бұрын
I know we would all love to hear your thoughts on the new playtest document, and all the documents to come. I would also love a video of you taking the survey when it goes up.
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to actually find some time to dive in soon!
@dibyo156 Жыл бұрын
Always love watching your optimized build series. Would love to see you make a separate series focusing on individual spells and builds which would use such spell to the most interesting/best of its ability. For example, immovable object from the dunamancy list.
@jonathaneckert5132 Жыл бұрын
I played an evil glamor bard with great success for years. Evil, imo, is just being willing to go that extra step to achieve your goals, even if the step is "wrong". I guess with the added step of not feeling bad about taking said steps.
@RobKinneySouthpaw Жыл бұрын
Record labels are certainly lawful evil
@PUNishment777 Жыл бұрын
Achieving ultimately wrong ends is what evil is about in reality, alternative realities and the respectively idealized reality
@melchiorkaczmarzyk5165 Жыл бұрын
Old intro, so fitting for the build
@michaell6324 Жыл бұрын
Given you'll be riding around on a horse mount (large), you could get reliable advantage by taking mounted combatant - adv on all creatures smaller than your mount. Most enemies will be medium or smaller, so this is pretty reliable. Just not against bosses obviously
@freddiechurchill3200 Жыл бұрын
"you are really cramping my style whitey."
@jacobyspurnger8488 Жыл бұрын
2:35 older editions dictated your alignment based on class. In 3.5 in order to play a druid you had to be neutral, and if your alignment changed to anything else you lost all levels of druid and became a level 0 commoner. Clerics and paladins we're similar with good alignments, but you could atone and get your powers back.
@PjotrV1971 Жыл бұрын
I had tons of fun playing my LE Divine Soul devotee of Lolth. In the aftermath of the campaign, she became the High Matron of Menzoberranzan. :-)
@J.sh_CDN Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a lawful Evil, who likes to cause pain and death, but knows that following laws and restricting their killing to "evil" folks. Seems logical, you can kill and loot bandits and monsters all you want with no repercussion
@mattyspoons777 Жыл бұрын
Love the build almost as much as I love the story arc for the character. 11/10
@LittleBananaJoe Жыл бұрын
One little thought on the oath breaking. They don’t have to turn evil. It’s also possible that they embrace chaos. Maybe they witnessed that following the law blindly can lead into disaster… I like the idea of a chaotic good oath breaker Paladin. Like Robin Hood for example
@WexMajor82 Жыл бұрын
My best and longest played character was NE. He was a Drow Lore Bard, follower of Vhaeraun. He lived and worked in Waterdeep, where he owned a brothel; he worked for the shadow thieves and laundered money for them, beside gathering info (people tend to talk a lot in brothels). He never did an evil act for the sake of it. All the atrocities he committed were motivated. Also, he, with the rest of the party, killed Xanatar. He was a pillar of the community, because if the city thrives, he would too.
@federicoxausa2790 Жыл бұрын
nice build for my favorite class. My take on the Oathbreaker is to go V.Human with piercer and mounted combatant, so you can use Find Steed to run across the battelfield while having 20 AC (shield+ plate) and d12 damage (lance), Find Steed and Find Greater Steed are such great spells
@michaeledwards2052 Жыл бұрын
Colby once had to walk all the way to Mount Doom...it was flipping Mordor on the feet!
@MatthewDragonHammer Жыл бұрын
Dude. I just had the greatest/silliest idea. An oath of conquest paladin, who breaks their oath by doing the morally right thing, thus becoming an oath breaker.
@travisadams9268 Жыл бұрын
Always punch the reporter! Renegade for life!
@whatsaphim5471 Жыл бұрын
ᴄᴏɴᴛᴀᴄᴛ ʜɪᴍ☝️ɴᴏᴡ ғᴏʀ ʜᴇʟᴘ ᴛᴏ ʙʀɪɴɢ ʙᴀᴄᴋ ʏᴏᴜʀ ʟᴏᴠᴇ ɪɴ ᴛʜʀᴇᴇ ᴅᴀʏs 🤞🏿🤞🏿☝️🤞🏿🤞🏿
@anthonycassidy1124 Жыл бұрын
Micheal the archangel is screaming from this build as he slays Lucifer
@Thriving_in_Exile 10 ай бұрын
17:21 Breaking the Oath of Redemption = "Relapsing" on addictive dark powers.
@ulrikfonlistenstine6012 Жыл бұрын
Finnally!!! Love the videos! ❤
@J.sh_CDN Жыл бұрын
My favourite reflavour for a non evil Oathbreaker, is simply a paladin with powers like an exorcist, or spiritualism, able to communicate with ghosts and spirits, free them from necromantic magic that binds them or to "Hack" that magic. Being a very spirit based paladin would explain all your undead powers, as well as your fear abilities and such
@Pacific-NW-Native Жыл бұрын
Don't take this the wrong way but, I so enjoy seeing how uncomfortable you are with the mere thought of being evil 😅 You have such a good soul.
@TheRobversion1 Жыл бұрын
This build reminded me of the critlander and can indeed be re-specced as such. would've been cool if you just didn't pass over control undead and talked about it as imo that's the most powerful oathbreaker ability if you have high cha. Getting a revenant (or any other CR 5 undead) pet at level 6 is pretty solid. can inspire party collab too in terms of the party helping you maintain control of that high CR undead pet. then it also scales. if you're a level 19 oathbreaker you can have a CR 18 hollow dragon as a pet and pretend you're an undead targaryen dragon rider.
@andrewpowers2249 Жыл бұрын
As a former WoW player, how did you not make a Lich King reference? A Paladin, who finds a cursed weapon, and then starts making the dead serve him? That's Arthas....
@nicodemussmith8958 Жыл бұрын
To add to the “not evil just misunderstood” part, my example would be the OG Ghost Rider. I know a guy here on KZfaq that actually built him (Oathbreaker/Fiend Warlock), and it was BADASS!!
@Ultimate32126 Жыл бұрын
Love the video! Cant wait for the day that I can play my own Oath breaker who broke his oath to an evil king/kingdom.
@ryanscanlon2151 Жыл бұрын
loved this video, couple missed opportunities mostly involving your mount though. feat at level 13 should definitely have been mounted combatant for both a fairly reliable advantage and a way to keep your mount alive longer. the other big thing all the spells you can share with your mount make a huge difference. for starters you can actually share spirit shroud with your mount so long as you do not target creatures with the slowing effect. you can also use enlarge reduce from sorcerer to make you and your mount a size larger and give you advantage against large or smaller creature. oh and you can make your mounts fiends to let the aura of hate flow through them also.
@ClintonJohnson1 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@ClintonJohnson1 Жыл бұрын
Alright I mathed it out and the results are below. I also noticed some oddities in the spreadsheet math for this episode that I am going to need to watch the video again to double check. Lvl 17 Spirit Shroud 2d8 AC 10: 66.55+112.8=179.35 AC 18: 34.75+86.8=121.55 Enlarge/mounted combatant AC 10: 54.85+107.18=162.03 AC 18: 28.25+99.79=128.04
@midwesternpickle Жыл бұрын
I feel the into so much! It reminds me of playing Fable. I would always try a second playthrough as Evil and it just never worked out for me.
@MrDarkweaver Жыл бұрын
I think there is a serious benefit to taking 3 levels of Warlock that you are potentially missing here. First, you now have two 2nd level spell slots that regen on a short rest, which are ideal for smiting with. You can save your Paladin slots for actual spell casting and the occasional extra smite, and primarily use your Warlock slots for smiting. It also gives access to a bunch of 2nd level Warlock spells which are really nice as well, and those can be cast with Paladin slots. Misty Step and Shadow Blade are not available to the Paladin, but they are at 3rd level to a Warlock, and if you're not taking Fey Touched as a feat, then having Misty Step is so good it's hard to pass up.
@inskeeprulerable Жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for an oath breaker build
@jamesmullen3068 Жыл бұрын
We finally get a hoplite, as well as an oathbreaker. Two birds. Fun.
@Dotexclamationmark Жыл бұрын
For the has to be evil thingy I always thought of it as "evil in the eyes of your god". So that opens more doors etc (like the evil cleric to "good" paladin)
@alexhernandez4200 Жыл бұрын
Love the shout out to Civilization series!!
@ryadinstormblessed8308 Жыл бұрын
30:12 so at this point you are both SAD _and_ very happy 😪😆 Appropriate for such a complicated character perhaps
@telltale5240 Жыл бұрын
Came for the D&D build, stayed for the relatable commentary! Still trying to learn how to resist using hoplite rushes in every single civilization game I play
@JFKwentAFK_ Жыл бұрын
Consider grabbing mounted combatant at level 12 for a feat! That could give advantage on all attacks on medium sized creatures and smaller. Kind of niche, but a potential buff to dpr for some reliable advantage for some combats.
@JFKwentAFK_ Жыл бұрын
It also gets even more fun very late when the sorcerer 3 comes online! That let's us take enlarge. We can then cast it on ourself and our mount since our mount gets the same spells cast on them. Meaning we are a large creature riding a huge creature!!! No only is that amazingly cool, but auto advantage on all attacks on creatures Large or smaller with the bonus enlarge damage which is technically better than using darkness for no bonus damage
@ryanscanlon2151 Жыл бұрын
other paladins with a hex blade dip go from MAD to SAD but when an Oath Breaker does it they go CHAD lol
@DnDDeepDive Жыл бұрын
lol
@crazy36069 Жыл бұрын
Now you gotta do a Yuanti Sermentine build. I thought of this randomly, but it’s too cool to ignore. Yuanti, with oath of ancients paladin with the vines from nature’s wrath along with ensnaring strike, and possibly plant growth reflavored as spectral snakes. It has so much flavor potential, but it’s also perfect for resisting the effects of spells from evil mages.
@ishi91 Жыл бұрын
This was so inspiring, I imagined the character to be a Fallen Aasimar; the Necrotic Shroud visual just fit in so perfectly to me. Maybe the Aasimar was exposed to an unimaginable evil at a young age, but managed to keep the demon at bay and follow a righteous path... untill level 3.
@zyxophoj Жыл бұрын
Polearm masters do it with bonus butt stuff. Oaths are clearly a big deal in and D&D universe. A level 2 paldain is just thinking about taking an oath, but because of that, they get to lay on hands, smite, and even use a smite slot to cast a spell if they have to. And this works even if they are planing to immediately break the oath. :D
@givemeanaxe Жыл бұрын
my favorite character of all time i made for a 1-shot version of dead in thay. General Kraxx, Hobgoblin oathbreaker-lore bard. yeah. level 6 paladin. level 3 bard when we started. the jack of all trades aspect is, nuts. the fact that he felt moralistically aligned with many of the intelligent monsters in the dungeon, and his insane persuasion skills, allowed him to negotiate with basically all of them. and those they didnt? ass-whoopins. demeanor and voice wise i modeled him after general Martok in Ds9. absolutely a character ive wanted to play again so very, very badly.
@johnm.9597 Жыл бұрын
I actually love playing (lawful) evil characters. You get to blur the line between alignments and generally grasp for power, as long as it's within your sense of right.
@dumbwaki5877 Жыл бұрын
this is sick! I would probably take undeadlock instead of hexblade and maybe go 2 levels in right at the start, just because causing fear would be really thematic.
@pascalb3404 7 ай бұрын
What a fantstic video and defenetly one of my favorite builds in the future🤩 even when i will stick to warlock from pala lvl 7 on😁
@Veradun88 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad people are starting to recognize how great oathbreaker paladins are. I’ve been playing this exact character for the last two year and I couldn’t recommend it more. It’s extremely fun and you have a ton of options. I ended up going 3 levels in warlock, and tbh I’d recommend it if your campaign goes to higher levels, though maybe wait till after improved divine smite.
@shaunabbott8078 Жыл бұрын
If you can get a higher charisma score, you can get the spell sniper feet and use booming blade. That adds 3d8 to attacks at level 17.
@ProjectMalywix Жыл бұрын
I actually made a build quite like this the other day, picked the Aasimar race for the bonus action "Celestial Radience", that allows to add your proficiency to the damage of 1 attack on your turn for 1 minute, as well as doing your proficiency amount of damage to all enemies within 10 feet of you each time you end your turn. add the dueling fighting style, hexblade's curse the plus 5 from charisma and the aura of hate and you're looking at a solid +16 per attack, as well as and additional 4 on the first one and 4 each time you end your turn. Had considered taking heavy weapon master to bump it up to +26, but wanted to prioritize ability score increase and the use of my shield.
@jacobyullman5005 Жыл бұрын
Fun little factoid I found out about Find Greater Steed; Thanks to Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, there is a new mount option for the Find Greater Steed spell in the form of the Dragonnel. Just below the Dragonnel entry in the book, it states that a DM can allow Paladins to summon a Dragonnel for a mount when casting the Find Greater Steed spell.
@Dave004 Жыл бұрын
Awesome build as always! Just make sure if your group runs into a Marilith you run the the back and throw Javelins and buff your casters with your Aura and stay away from melee! lol
@beardietwitch Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite characters I played was a homebrewed variation of the oathbreaker. My DM didn't like all the necromancy aspects of it and it didn't really work thematically in our campaign, and I didn't want to play him as evil. Tevye had been an oath of ancients paladin who served the goddess of the moon and tide, but broke his oath when he found out his goddess had made a deal with the BBEG demon to flood most of the world and wipe out civilization because she thought it would expand her domain of power. The actual build subbed in aspects of the oath of ancients and oath of vengeance subclasses for some of the undead stuff. I miss playing that character.
@Andrea-ne8sg Жыл бұрын
My Oathbreaker Paladin broke her oath to her kingdom by saving her terminally ill sister and letting the capital city fall. She was never outright evil, but she did see herself that way, especially because she was second in line for the throne. Easily one of my favorite characters to date. She used a glaive/swordspear, had a blink dog spirit as her "mount" who eventually turned into a blink direwolf, had some fey magic as well as fiend. At the end of the time I played her, she broke her contract with Asmodeus by essentially pulling a Kratos and taking the place of an Archdevil. Ironically, the character she ended up settling down with was a Life Cleric.
@orionneal5265 Жыл бұрын
Loving the "evil spartan" vibe! I think since you can use a quarterstaff to cast shield (since it's an arcane focus), you can probably convince most dms that a spear is nearly mechanically the same.
@fly1ing891 Жыл бұрын
Shield has no material components to replace with an arcane focus and thus you need a free hand or War Caster
@LeLa_Lu Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea for flavour: Oathbreaker Pali who doesn't know that they have broken their oath. You'd play them like a juiced up lawful good paladin who is very insistent in doing everything by the law. The law of the land is good, so you can only do good by acting according to the law. Anyone who has read stormlight archives knows exactly who I mean...
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