Same here bro😅😅😅 thought i was the only one

I’m just a man , Monster ❤❤

@@fantasyworls32 you're a fan of Epic: The Musical?! Awesome!!

10years in war, another 10 after odysseus struggling so hard rn

20 years*

To be fair to Helen, she was more or less kidnapped, she had no real say in the matter since aphrodite made her fall in love with Paris.

Ez,

Wasn't one of the reasons why Clytemnestra killed Agamemnon was because he sacrificed their daughter to Artemis prior to the war and also brought back Cassandra?

@@gargigautam8840 yes those were definetely factors that all added up to her murdering Agamemnon. The King had it coming to him

​@raptormage2209 is that like second hand graping or 3rd party graping. Then what about Paris, he in on it, or just some hapless fool.

thanks :)

Watch this video a million times then

​@@stellviahohenheimdamn! What's going on over in Hohenheim that got you so salty??

Dude over a quarter of a million views on an hour plus long mythological story is pretty exceptional! I work in advertising so know first hand the amount of effort it takes to make a 30 second ad. I can't imagine the amount of effort this must have taken! I wonder where they got the visuals from - like is it taken from something existing or if it was made specifically for this.

Ah yes

I agree this is indeed the greatest story ever told thank you very much for taking the time to create this incredible masterpiece 👏

I preffer its his sentence for the death of ajax

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Jesus christ is the greatest story ever told. Not a fake greek tale smh.. Whats wrong wit u

didn't athena intervene at that point?

@@lib-center96 Yes, she did. She told them to accept Odysseus as their king again. And that's the end of Homer's Odyssey

what modern version was that? The Oddesey I read(all 10 of them) ended after Odysseus and his son had killed all the suitors. After the guest had proven his strength by notching the bow and shooting it between the axe heads...there was nothing left after that

Thank you almost forgot about that

​@@ravinraven6913I think it was in book 24 of the original.

Ur mother

Who’s to say that he is fictional?

historians and Homer@@joelbaxter9398

he was great, but he wasn't really a hero...a women left her husband to be with someone she wanted(helen even if it was a trick by the gods, but that happened in real life too so, she didn't want menalus but wanted Paris. ) So this guy was called to go over to a foreign war, to get something he had no part in. Just to be lost at sea. Maybe he was a hero to his family after he came back. But he wouldn't have been a hero without that one thing. And that was a selfish thing, so really...how can he even be called a hero? He didn't blind the cyclops to stop him from killing people, he did it to escape. everything he did was selfish

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Thanks!

Thanks! 😊

Apparently the odyssey starts halfway through and you dont find out about past events until odysseus talks about it later on

@@tim9680 ah ok thanks for clarifying

I don’t think they realize how popular the accurate stories would be

@@Tanya49655 they are aware Greek mythology is cool they just don't know how to adapt them.

Hollywoke would only mess up the stories anyway 🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

They already did the movie Troy starring Brad Pitt... this story is the sequel... 😁

The Ego and Arrogance of Hollywood (especially the screenwriters) prevents that from happening.

There were two Ajax. "Greater Ajax", Son of Telamon, the one you're talking about, and "Lesser Ajax", Son of Oileus, King of Locris (think of the whole "same name" thing as how in modern day there are many "Johns" out there, especially in the US). Most likely given the names based on their sizes/ages as Greater Ajax was a very large and mighty warrior. Lesser Ajax had the smaller frame and was kind of considered a coward in many ways as he basically only used the bow in the Iliad and was very fast. His forcing himself upon Cassandra during the Fall of Troy is what angered the gods as it was in Athena's Temple as well. Odysseus was the one who caught him in the act and was said to be the only one who wanted to stone him. Most of the other kings said that Lesser Ajax pleaded with Athena and that they would be fine. Odysseus and Agamemnon were said to be the only ones who stayed behind in Troy a little longer to give proper sacrifices to the gods before setting sail. Another little fun fact! During Patroclus' funeral games, Odysseus was very very close to beating him in the footrace but just needed a little luck. He prayed to Athena to give him a burst of power and she did. Not only that, she made Lesser Ajax trip and landed face-first into cow dung! (I think it's Homer's foreshadowing her future dislike of him in a way) Odysseus also got into a tie in the wrestling match against Greater Ajax in the funeral games, which is funny because Greater Ajax was basically the largest man on the Greek's side and Odysseus was more "Medium". Diomedes I believe, was said to be one of the shortest men, which makes it all the cooler that he's such an amazing warrior and literally was fighting gods despite being mortal. He's a literal Short King! (I'm not an expert and sadly most of what we know about the fall of Troy is mostly lost to time, but that's what I know! 😊It's good to do your own research as well!)

@@schmad2048 Thank you for shedding light upon this briefly confusing episode of eponymous heroes. Greater Ajax was omnipresent in the Iliad movie and lesser Ajax was not even mentioned. It is therefore strange that the other heroes were mourning the loss of a character that was not part of the story to begin with, where as their good friend seems to have vanished from their memory. Otherwise, i must say that these two cartoon movies about a monument of epic litterature were quite excellent.

Thanks for the support, @ne85aba! ❤️❤️

But he is, all these characters are. They all have the flaws we learn and adapt from in tragedies like this. Even honorable characters like Hector, Nestor, and Diomedes had their troubles. It's the human experience my guy. The Trojans nor Greeks are the sole good guys, these stories are meant to teach us to make better decisions than out heroes did. Don't look at things in the simple view of good vs bad, especially when it comes to imperfect beings like humans.

they weren't lovers and would have killed you for even suggesting such a thing

@@blank4227 lOL, they famously were and they couldn't care less about me saying that, or about me saying anything for that matter XD

@@537zun4 LOL XD that's why Homer describes them as gay lovers right XDD in vivid detail too, I must have missed that. If you were homosexual in ancient Greece you couldn't vote as a citizen, even if you were merely taken without consent.

​@@blank4227 This is new trend. If there are two close friends in ancient stories so they should be declared gay.

Why was he only punished though. Didn't the other Greek heroes do bad stuff as well? I thought Neo threw a baby off a building or something