I have learned so much from you in a very short period of time. The way you explain things makes it very easy to put into practice

You have such a good way of explaining things. You should be a teacher at Paul Ulibarri's academy!

I whole-heartedly welcome this video, because now I don't need to make it anymore. The OFF arm is the least important thing in the throw. It moves the way it moves because the body moves the way it moves, but to actively swing it or especially punch down to brace is just wrong. Thx!

Another great fundamental/instructional video Leon. I find that most people just starting out do things in their throw techniques, especially lunging forward with the shoulders, and of course the nose up problem. Distance can never be achieved when the disc flight is bound to stall out and fall to the ground. The elbow position must be correct as well as the throw arm comes through, driven by the hips and shoulders. If the bend of the elbow is facing to the sky, a nose up release is bound to happen. Here is a great idea for you and your teaching abilities for beginners. So many disc golf wanna bees watch these videos to learn proper throw technique. See if you can get some volunteers that you can teach and correct their flaws in their throw form. The off arm is just one part of good throw technique. Watching a new player discover and see results is so satisfying for any teacher, and you are a good one. The shoulders do not lunge forward. It is the coil winding around the core that beginners just understand. Timing is everything and the parts of a good throw happens fast for the best results. Summary for you in a future video: Get a beginner to stop rounding, feel the importance of throwing with the hips, plant the brace foot first and then begin the hip & shoulders uncoiling, and of course the elbow/arm position parallel to the ground. There is no better feeling than watching new players learn to throw the correct way, making disc golf a fun and effective sporting experience!☺Merry Christmas Leon, you videos are A+ so straight forward to watch. Like you say often, is is just physics and can only be done one correct way☺Sincerely, Bill M., PDGA #7378☺

Great video man. The off arm is super important in my opinion. I think most that do the left hand in pocket drill and continue to throw this way never truly get the rubberband/lag effect from the left arm. It's definitely a great drill to figure out what it should feel like as the left arm "swings in". Also standing stacked with the left arm close and practicing rotating out/throwing out from that position is another great way to feel how the left arm stops to eject the disc back out, then comes thru to follow-through.

i would suggest opening up the histogram on your LCD screen of your video camera. if the bars or "mountain" goes past the right side of the histogram. you need to lower the light by either Lowering the ISO, Lowering the shutter speed or Closing the apperature. If the edge of the mountain goes past the right side you get major blowouts (like you have on the snow) and its impossible to "fix" in post..

It seems to me the off arm is essentially for balance, rotation and momentum. You will use it to keep the body upright and keep the center of gravity closer to your spine as you rotate. It helps speed up rotation as the off arm comes in closer to your body during the swing. But it also helps slow the body's rotation at the peak of the backswing. That's why the body projects the off arm outward, to slow it down. At maximum extension of the throwing arm, the off arm should also be at maximum extension. The tricky part is really training someone to use the off arm to help with momentum. If it's brought inward at the same time as the throwing arm is brought inward, it's not going to interfere with the throw - provided they aren't trying to occupy the same space. But higher-level throwers use the off arm to initiate the throw, to where they start bringing it in first, then bringing the throwing arm in. The body rotates, and before the disc is in the power pocket, the off arm is at it's in-most position. By the time the disc is released, the off arm performing some form of "swim" move as it pushes back to some extent. This is hard to see in real time, but if you frame-by-frame examine what the pros are doing, the off arm often comes in before the throwing arm is engaged. And that's because there is a transfer of motion energy from the off arm, through the body an throwing arm, to the disc.

Leon, Thanks for making this video. Loved hearing your take on the off arm because it's a problem for me when rotating. I'm going to look for balance issues and use your hand in the pocket drill. Thanks again. ~Face

Really great stuff Leon. Your tips have helped my game a ton. I love the hand in the pocket tip - makes it easy to practice. Thanks!

This dudes tips are crazy I was throwing 300ft abt two weeks ago when I saw his first video in that time I’ve watched all of his vids and tryed to incorporate everything he does into my form today I throw a 400ft golf line super excited to see my max distance noe

I really appreciate the minimalist approach you learned from your dad and use in your videos. My control has improved immensely, and I’ve even gained a little distance, because of your simple swing thoughts. Thanks! Sometimes slow is fast and less is more.

This is honestly really brilliant. I have a feeling this is going to be very useful.

Awesome breakdown. Thanks dude!!

The Coriolis force is what it is called when rotation is slow or faster. It's the same reason why figure skaters spin faster when their arms are close to the body.

Great Video & well said!!

Can you do a video on that shoulder lean that you talked about at 7 min. I do that and have issues with off arm. You're doing great content, keep it up!

This was so helpful bro! I have always tried to make my off arm do what my favorite pros off arms do, and when I do that instead of letting my arm be natural my whole form gets terrible!

Nice vid!

What are you thoughts on this interesting off arm comment I've heard from Overthrow DG: It was something like bringing the off arm in and holding it close acts as a sort of anchor for the rest of the body to rotate around and that anchor point helps create the whip effect and also helps avoid over rotating by having that anchor the disc will eject sooner instead of ejecting late after over-rotation.

Spin in a circle on a swing set. When you spread your arms wide, you spin slower, and when you tuck them in you accelerate. That's how I describe the off arm and its function, but I'm a knucklehead. Load energy with a wider Center of mass and accelerate by bringing the mass inward

What about when the off arm is coming forward during the power pocket and the elbow is bent at 90 degrees, with the hand near the lead hip? It’s like a “punching forward” motion. What would be the form issue that causes that? Cause that’s what I do and am trying to fix it cause it actually hurts my off arm elbow

Hey Leon, I'm still having trouble with my throws. My shoulder muscle between neck and shoulder is still getting pulled and sore. Do you think maybe I'm rounding and not bringing the disc in. Sucks because it's been over a week and it still hurts a little bit

the Offarm is VERY easy to teach.. Basics. KEEP IT CLOSE TO THE BODY.. if it gets to far away, it will hinder your throw, if its kinda close, its not doing much. its better for it to not do much then be a dead weight. As long as your elbow is close to your body when you are performing the throw thats all that matters, work on that, if you hand is in a different place, thats fine. as long as your elbow is at your hip and theres no gap in between your arm and side. Maybe once you are bombin 400ft+ you can worry about the nuances of off arm.. just dont it let be Negative EV..

Didn't Overthrow do a video on how much speed he got from tucking in the off arm? 5mph, I believe. That's significant

@bodanzadiscgolf beat him by a day!