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THE OG SCAM SPONSOR! The Story of the Moneytron Onyx F1 Team (1989-1990)

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Aidan Millward

Aidan Millward

Күн бұрын

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@phoneboxchicken4108
@phoneboxchicken4108 2 жыл бұрын
I want these days of fly by night teams to return. The sight of random cars led/owned by goodness knows who, featuring drivers who are going to be lapped as soon as the lights go out on the starting grid was funny. And the reasons why team X or Y folded are usually interesting. It's all too humourless, professional, money driven and restrictive now the big car manufacturers run the show.
@mat2000100
@mat2000100 2 жыл бұрын
If only to allow younger drivers to get in.
@justinyoung109
@justinyoung109 2 жыл бұрын
The irony is that with F1’s North American resurgence there should be more of these teams popping up to capitalize if for no reason than to see what combinations of drivers, sponsors, and engines can be thrown around. Unfortunately it seems as the influx of these operations from the 80’s and 90’s ended up shutting the door. Well except for the antics going on at the back of the pack
@eoincassin4265
@eoincassin4265 Жыл бұрын
You should talk to Peter Windsor...he's an expert at setting up fake teams
@lacosanostra20
@lacosanostra20 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's not good for the stability of formula 1
@johnrosenberg3982
@johnrosenberg3982 Жыл бұрын
Lol f1 used to let anyone join the grid 2022 Andretti nope lol
@patrickracer43
@patrickracer43 Жыл бұрын
Porsche: "we'll give you engines as long as you keep quiet about it" Onyx: "alright" Onyx: "GUYS! WE'RE GOING TO GET PORSCHE ENGINES!" Porsche: "yeah, not anymore"
@MrTrick.
@MrTrick. 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Moneytron fight Megatron.
@TransGalStarCatcher
@TransGalStarCatcher 2 ай бұрын
Moneytron is what would have happened if Crypto bros found him floating in space instead of Unicron
@karlek698
@karlek698 2 жыл бұрын
For more van Rossem shenanigans I recommend the Motorsport Magazine podcast with Mike Earle. Hilarious episode and Earle knows how to tell a good story as well!
@nitrous36
@nitrous36 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftpdoNSAq5qdhYU.html
@BlueSkyBS
@BlueSkyBS 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more stories about similar minnow teams going back through the 80s and into the 70s, because there is an absolute goldmine of outfits there, many of which didn't even build their own cars.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 2 жыл бұрын
He did a few of them in the original storytime, the only problem was a lot of those teams were simply "had no money, went no where", very few were actually all that interesting.
@PanzerFalcon2232
@PanzerFalcon2232 2 жыл бұрын
Hesketh would be a good video
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper 2 жыл бұрын
He already covered the Hesketh team. Though I think that video got taken down after the whole copyright kerfuffle.
@chrisdavidson911
@chrisdavidson911 Жыл бұрын
not building your own car wasn't that much of an issue back then, Jackie Stewart's Tyrrells were designed & made by Matra
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdavidson911 Only the first two as Tyrrell was running the Matra works entry. It wasn't until the last few races of 1970 that Tyrrell finally had it's own car
@TheFarCobra
@TheFarCobra 2 жыл бұрын
I will say that the Onyx was a nice looking car (livery aside). It was simple and clean lined … like many of the cars of its era. I would say the same of the Leyton House … it was a tidy car, nice looking air box.
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably the most 80s livery ever. An actual vapourwave livery (unlike the current Alpine livery).
@CrunchyMotorsport
@CrunchyMotorsport 2 жыл бұрын
With a name like Moneytron you are asking for to be scammed
@eoincassin4265
@eoincassin4265 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's almost like buying Bitcoin and being surprised you lost all your money
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson Жыл бұрын
Got to be a Nigerian prince behind it somewhere?
@GreatCdn59
@GreatCdn59 Жыл бұрын
@@mikehipperson Ask the Arrows team in 1999. They literally had that happen to them lol
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
Having 2 of the draws of one of the huge tool boxes on wheels full of passports instead of actual tools probably raised some questions.......
@navalhistoryhub3748
@navalhistoryhub3748 2 жыл бұрын
"Not even people in Lincolnshire have enough fingers to count" so subtle but brilliance! 😂 Great work on this epsiode as always.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
It’s a high nine over there.
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson Жыл бұрын
But people in Norfolk managed really well!
@michaelcallander7085
@michaelcallander7085 Жыл бұрын
He's right you know. Speaking from Lincolnshire.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcallander7085 Hellbeach 💪
@anusername8350
@anusername8350 Жыл бұрын
@@mikehipperson im from Norfolk and I can count how many times I’ve heard that joke on one hand.. I’m up to double digits now
@josephernest91
@josephernest91 Жыл бұрын
Seeing as how we're talking about scams, I feel it's only right we get an up to date retelling of Rich Energy and their absurdity including what they did in the British superbike championship.
@Yvolve
@Yvolve Жыл бұрын
The whole Ponzi scheme worked by him talking to investors in his office, which he left through a door behind him, to a room that was supposed to have the Moneytron. He would see what the computer would say, come back with that information and tell the investor. When he was arrested it turned it to be an empty room where Van Rossem would hang out for a little bit before returning to his clients. Nobody was allowed into the room, yet everyone bought into it, all because of quick profits. The '90's were crazy..
@emmakeuken7436
@emmakeuken7436 2 ай бұрын
the thing is, when van rossem got arrested he wanted the investigators to believe moneytron was a ponzi scheme... But it wasn't a, all money he made thrrought moneytron was legal money made by his speculative macro economic model which actually existed (van rossem was an economic mastermind) from which he took 10% off investors profits. His illegal money was a construction he set to get loans backed by fake stock duplicates.. he raised investors to pay for the fake stock duplicates and then he lent the money he got from the banks to investors that couldn't get loans from normal banks (high risk high reward), he made sure they could pay him back . When they paid back, he made a profit, the investors (who sort of knew) made a 50% profit and he paid the money he owed the bank back... This all went great until his legal money (from moneytron) got stolen/ hacked from his swiss bank, then he needed money so set up a new investing loan but the stock duplicates got lost in transfer, the insurance company that he had to back up the stocks found out that at least 4 the stocks were fake so they did not want to pay out... So he in term he couldnt pay his investors back that lend him money to buy the fake stock papers and had to sell everything... at this time moneytron wasnt performing as good as it used to anymore when he sold onyx the new buyer when bankrupt, cutting him from the money he was promised. when he got arrested he delclared moneytron was a ponzi, moneytron was decalred bankrupt and van rossem got released, investigations still going on he fled to austria and founded a political party in belgium to benifit from the parlimentary immunty. His party won elections but collapsed a few years later. The court declared that moneytron was a ponzi and he served 5 years in jail, after that he tried everything to make some money. in 2018 he got another 2 years in prison for scamming but eventually died 34 days after his sentence. SO now you may ask what does an f1 team have to do with all this... Well van rossem was a huge car lover, but he bought onyx to collect new investors for his illegal financing operations (the investors didn't know) of course and were promised a 50% profit i believe and it actually worked. so this was van rossems story..
@cjsnowdon
@cjsnowdon Жыл бұрын
Only thing missing from the Onyx story: Roberto Moreno On a side note does anyone remember Onyx F1 models and Minichamps
@Quadrant14
@Quadrant14 Жыл бұрын
Ha I just bought one !!!!!
@ProStriker92
@ProStriker92 Жыл бұрын
Even if Onyx was destined to be a backmaker on the grid, they had a very cool name for a F1 team. Sad that this team faded before Pokémon was a thing.
@Bobcat205
@Bobcat205 2 жыл бұрын
I remember you made a video about this way back, but it got taken down. I love this story, so it’s great to see this re-done.
@duckrutt
@duckrutt Жыл бұрын
Okay so I'm not crazy for that specific reason.
@JamieJooESC
@JamieJooESC Жыл бұрын
Why did it get taken down?
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer Жыл бұрын
@@JamieJooESC I think I died in the great copyright purge. There was some unpleasantness about the pictures being used.
@heliumtrophy
@heliumtrophy Жыл бұрын
Gachot, the driver of multiple nationalities owing as he was born in Luxembourg to a French diplomat and a German mother. Held a French passport but drove under the Belgian flag initially because it was probably the closest/cheapest option.
@Dankaliciously
@Dankaliciously 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Krabs: Money Money Money!
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd Жыл бұрын
The original evil Santa story! He was a weird one. Though it's a real shame for the team because they obviously showed signs of promise at the start of their run in F1. Imagine if they'd had a Mattersiech (sp? I know it's wrong) instead.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
He looked like a Quentin Blake illustration.
@Hesitatedeye
@Hesitatedeye 2 жыл бұрын
Ah wonky Belgians in F1 I love late 80s early 90s F1 insanity
@buddhaboy-
@buddhaboy- 2 жыл бұрын
108- the number of stitches on a baseball…⚾️ 108- the number of beads on a string of prayer beads 📿 108- the number of Ferraris in Jean-Pierre Van Rossem’s collection 🏎🏎🏎🏁
@snorri788
@snorri788 2 жыл бұрын
Great story and ‘what would have been’. I always knew that Onyx was one of those backmarker DPNQ teams but not that then got a podium!
@trashkitty78
@trashkitty78 Жыл бұрын
These stories of the weird money that comes into F1 are always so absolutely wild, I love it!
@THIS---GUY
@THIS---GUY 2 жыл бұрын
If I ever win the lottery, I'd definitely buy you some images for these videos lol maybe even a gif or a minute of video but let's not get too crazy here. All jokes aside, thanks for what you do. You have an awesome channel.
@wadecoppage5583
@wadecoppage5583 2 жыл бұрын
Before anyone says "University of Pennsylvania, big deal." That's an Ivy League school and home to the famous Wharton School of Business, where several Trump's graduated from, along with plenty of other big names of business. Everytime I watch one of these awesome stories, I look down and wonder how you only have 89k subs... You don't get content like this other places. Keep up the good work Aiden.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Haven’t the Trumps’ businesses constantly failed tho? 🤔
@wadecoppage5583
@wadecoppage5583 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward they aren't batting 1000 by no means. Seems like all the "ego" business failed. Trump U, Trump steaks, Air Trump, Trump the Game. I think the books sold well. But I think no matter how you feel about the guy, he did build a multi billion dollar business. I just don't think a moron could do it, or not destroy it, so I gotta give him some credit for that.
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck Жыл бұрын
@@wadecoppage5583 Exactly, 10% of his smallest projects failed. Over 90% of his largest works made it. Man has billions, he's clearly good at what he does.
@BobGeogeo
@BobGeogeo 5 ай бұрын
Penn and Wharton are worthy of respect. No further comment as of March 2024.
@jayd2517
@jayd2517 Жыл бұрын
I've seen one of the cars up close in its Monteverdi livery and I was struck by how good it looked.
@uweheinrich6784
@uweheinrich6784 Жыл бұрын
I have been following F1 since 1975.....I always like your videos as they make me remember how good F1 was in the old days, when corporate influence represented a limited mix with a family owned style business and a fascinating sport, characterized by far less technical optimization and corporate engineering tanks. It was a time that had space for great ideas (aka fan car example), entrepreneurship and individual character. Who could ever replace Bernie as a "one man show" truly understanding what the sport needs? I liked that you consider "if" as "F1" spelled backwards. So true and funny, so good just like the old days.....
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is VR quit the team because he failed to get Porsche engines which actually ended up being terrible (see Footwork), so I doubt things would have ended up any better had that happened. Well, other than stopping Monteverdi managing to make a bigger farce of the team than VR where Gregor Foitek actually quit the team because they'd turned the car into a death trap.
@michaelfisher7159
@michaelfisher7159 Жыл бұрын
That Lincolnshire joke 😂😂😂
@nitrous36
@nitrous36 Жыл бұрын
Thinks for redoing this story. It seems like the first 40 years of F1 were the wild west cowboy days.
@SavingTheUndesireables
@SavingTheUndesireables Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this!!! I’ve actually been trying to find diecast of the 89’ Onyx
@robertknight5429
@robertknight5429 Жыл бұрын
The story of the "Raelians" is even madder.
@grrfy
@grrfy 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the gfx card comment, so true.
@TheKevMaster
@TheKevMaster Жыл бұрын
Love your presentation. Very elegant and professional
@karlek698
@karlek698 2 жыл бұрын
At work I have a van Rossem look-a-like. I laugh inside every time we speak.
@JohnSmithShields
@JohnSmithShields Жыл бұрын
The 1989 Onyx was part of an on track display at the Silverstone Classic this year.
@barrycheesemore2928
@barrycheesemore2928 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always, really enjoyed it!!!
@ImInLoveWithBulla
@ImInLoveWithBulla Жыл бұрын
In American terms, imagine a good but not elite football college like UVA or Colorado State deciding it’s going to be in the NFL.
@pranc236
@pranc236 Жыл бұрын
If is f1 spelled backwards! 😂. Greatness Aiden
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
If something seems too good to be true, it usually is........
@edwardburek1717
@edwardburek1717 Жыл бұрын
The Moneytron Onyx, most famous for being the car that Stefan Johansson was in while he was pootling around the Hungaroring at the exact moment that Ayrton Senna got absolutely monstered by Nigel Mansell.
@lsudx479
@lsudx479 Жыл бұрын
8:27 Pablo Escobar tried the exact same thing! Wow!
@RunningOn7CylindersYT
@RunningOn7CylindersYT 2 жыл бұрын
Would love a video about The split in V8 supercars in 2000 between HRT/TWR and Craig Lowndes, it was fairly ugly
@dansmith6909
@dansmith6909 Жыл бұрын
Buying a graphics card now... i mean, if you're desperate.... but new cards are coming very soon, and the existing now 2 year old (ancient) cards are still above MSRP, and the MSRP was craziness. If you're going to be forced to spend £1000+ on a graphics card, buy one on its release date IMO then at least you get the longest at the top for your money
@davidciesielski8251
@davidciesielski8251 Жыл бұрын
Boy o boy....Thanks
@tarushdei
@tarushdei Жыл бұрын
Watching this video about Moneytron, a literal Ponzi scheme, while getting ads for "Crypto Genius", another literal Ponzi scheme WITHIN a Ponzi scheme is *chef's kiss*
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
I’m beginning to think crypto is one of those ideas that on paper is a decent idea. But it’s been executed as a get rich quick/Ponzi scheme
@gringostarr69
@gringostarr69 6 ай бұрын
"Im the fire starter"!
@jan-akewallin1530
@jan-akewallin1530 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't Gachot who came home fifth in France. It was Johansson.
@joribremer5260
@joribremer5260 Жыл бұрын
There is also a nice Sporza docu here on youtube with all the main characters :) if you know a little bit of dutch , its worth the watch )
@nicofolkersma2535
@nicofolkersma2535 Жыл бұрын
Totally forgot about that idiot. Seen him on Dutch TV a couple of times, a man madly in love with himself and the sound of his voice.
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath Жыл бұрын
Aidan spilling the T- \m/
@blxtothis
@blxtothis Жыл бұрын
A whiff of Force India there!
@TheShockninja
@TheShockninja Жыл бұрын
Tasteless livery?! How dare you Nigel Roebuck! LOL
@minibus9
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
nice video
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer Жыл бұрын
Formula 1 🤝 Meth Dealers. No money... no speed.
@LegoGrandPrix13
@LegoGrandPrix13 Жыл бұрын
Nice story once again.
@marcocatania8398
@marcocatania8398 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a storytime video on eurobrun
@KayoMichiels
@KayoMichiels Жыл бұрын
If you want a full documentary of the Moneytron team... Belga Sport did an episode on it.. and for some odd reason.. Van Rossem's KZfaq channel has it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rK2Xnq6Jy67PoIU.html
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman 2 жыл бұрын
Moneytron goes Brrrrrrrrrrr...
@ElectoneGuy
@ElectoneGuy Жыл бұрын
Tasteless livery? Whatever. That thing was gorgeous.
@chibiy2j775
@chibiy2j775 Жыл бұрын
Could you also tell about Broker Magazine (Sauber sponsor from '94)?
@tonikouvonen9220
@tonikouvonen9220 8 ай бұрын
Didn´t know about that Porsche deal... But would´d it been disaster, like with Footwork in 1991..?
@Mistertbones
@Mistertbones Жыл бұрын
I love the stories of these failed F1 teams.
@MaxScheibenpflug
@MaxScheibenpflug Жыл бұрын
Cannot agree with Nigel Roebuck here. Onyx in my eyes had wonderful paintjobs!
@pipimontana
@pipimontana 2 жыл бұрын
That guy looks more like the guy behind marc dutroux
@domroper6333
@domroper6333 2 жыл бұрын
Boom!
@pipimontana
@pipimontana 2 жыл бұрын
There is no 5 o’clock free crack giveaway
@UnderwaterAlexJones
@UnderwaterAlexJones 2 жыл бұрын
>a Socialist Scam Artist Grass is Green, Water is Wet, News at 11.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын
Because there are no scam artists on the other side right now…
@williamross2579
@williamross2579 Жыл бұрын
Have you done a history of Minardi?
@ELSTERLING
@ELSTERLING Жыл бұрын
There's a lot about this guy that is suspect but let's be real, he wasn't wrong about Bernie and Balestre.
@johngibson1850
@johngibson1850 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m from Lincolnshire and I’ve got the same 11 fingers as anyone else!
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 Жыл бұрын
You all share them?
@Olivyay
@Olivyay Жыл бұрын
After Forti, there was Stewart GP
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Stewart got MASSIVE backing from Ford to make it happen though. EJ and Forti at least did it with what they had.
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward Sauber was the other step up success although their background was in sports cars not formula racing. You could also add Pacific and Manor as junior teams attempting the leap although like Forti they also failed. Prior to Jordan I think it would have been Minardi who made the step up work although their finances were mostly shaky until RB bought them. This was one of the reasons Vettel's win for them in 2008 was so special as many of the original Minardi team members for whom simply turning up at the next race was often their greatest achievement finally got their reward for all the years of often fruitless toil.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@laszlokaestner5766 Sauber had Mercedes’ backing.
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward True. They had been designing and running Mercedes sports car teams for them. Merc also had a relationship with Ilmor Engineering and later bought them out. They supplied the engine design and development.
@km6832
@km6832 Жыл бұрын
Whats going on at the minute? Some one shed some light
@upthebracket26
@upthebracket26 Жыл бұрын
of course the guy who runs an 'energy drinks' company was responsible for this...
@Racecarlock
@Racecarlock Жыл бұрын
Is it weird that all the sleaze kind of makes the sport more interesting to me? Maybe GTA is corrupting me.
@TouringCarsAndStuff
@TouringCarsAndStuff Жыл бұрын
Leyton House could get points until 1990 they were alot worse
@gdkey8025
@gdkey8025 Жыл бұрын
anyone got an onyx 1/43 on an onyx?
@jacquesmertens3369
@jacquesmertens3369 Жыл бұрын
On 9th August 1993, after the death of our beloved King Boudewijn, Van Rossem insulted our new king Albert II during his inauguration. This certainly didn't help to keep him out of jail. I'm happy Van Rossem was beaten at his own game by F1 insiders.
@jmissle
@jmissle Жыл бұрын
MoneyTron sounds like something Trump and Vince Mcmahon would have cooked up together after the success of Wrestlemanias 4 and 5
@QALibrary
@QALibrary 2 жыл бұрын
08:37 that does not look like the Belgium parliament building or even the high court building - someone misclicked or miss indexed the image
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t supposed to be.
@FukU2222
@FukU2222 Жыл бұрын
"nft crypto thing" lol, you know you're a boomer//completely out of the loop when....
@RhodokTribesman
@RhodokTribesman Жыл бұрын
Uh, no. Many cryptocurrencies and NFTs are very similar due to being simple pump and dumps after advertising and inflating the price/growth of the crypto/NFT
@B8kedBean
@B8kedBean Жыл бұрын
No need to bash crypto bud plenty of good things happening in that space as well as the bad.
@SteveDull
@SteveDull Жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed (and saddened) just how many people invest in these 'get rich quick' schemes. They've been around forever in different guises and discredited but still attract thousands/millions of gullible people time after time 🤔🙄
@johnmcrosin1746
@johnmcrosin1746 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Moneytron is definitely the "precursor to all this NFT, Cryptocurrency stuff" Spoken like someone who truly has absolutely no clue what they're talking about.....
@JohnYenchick
@JohnYenchick Жыл бұрын
MoneyGram Let’s see how this comment ages.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Moneygram is a smaller Western Union. Been around for 40 years and is the second largest money transfer company in the world. They’re a legitimate company.
@f1watcher
@f1watcher 4 ай бұрын
Please pronounce "Stefano Modena" correctly !
@mat2000100
@mat2000100 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of pre-qualifying, they should have set a limit on entries.
@hippyjason
@hippyjason Жыл бұрын
Eh, in 1989 F1 still believed in meritocracy. If you had the money to build a car and get it to the track, you got to chance at qualifying just like everybody else. And if your car was fast enough to make the grid, you got race.
@robertknight5429
@robertknight5429 6 ай бұрын
Just noticed, he attended Wharton "business school" at the same time as.... Donald J Trump!
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 6 ай бұрын
Probably explains why they're so bad with money kekw. HOW DO YOU BANKRUPT A CASINO!?
@ALPHABYTE1994
@ALPHABYTE1994 Жыл бұрын
NFT is so stupid
@frazerguest2864
@frazerguest2864 Жыл бұрын
1) It’s Stefano Mod-en-a, not “Mod-ain-a as you keep on incorrectly pronouncing it. 2) It’s pronounced Jean Marie Balest, (the “re” is silent), not “Bal-est-re”.
@kennedysingh3916
@kennedysingh3916 2 жыл бұрын
What a joke
@RZM_Valkyrie
@RZM_Valkyrie 2 жыл бұрын
Course he was a socialist 🤣
@eamonahern7495
@eamonahern7495 Жыл бұрын
You come across as having a very American attitude towards the term socialist. That guy doesn't sound like a socialist to me. He sounds like a con artist pretending to be socialist.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
He was a con artist that was a socialist.
@l-2112
@l-2112 7 ай бұрын
He was a self-proclaimed marxist.
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