The Old Gun Markets of Kabul

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Previously we looked at some of the very modern stores that sell numerous Turkish models in Kabul but in this episode, we look at some of the older small arms that are considered antiques but still legal to purchase (although ammunition is somewhat of a gray area). For that purpose, we went to one of the best shops on Chicken Street in downtown Kabul where there was an excellent array of British martial arms from the early 1800s and ending with the Martini-Henry. Several of these rifles (and smoothbore muskets) were in excellent condition considering their age and location throughout almost a century of being in Afghanistan. Although we can't be entirely certain of their authenticity, they are still an excellent trip down history lane. And the prices! These pieces would be many times their Afghan prices in these conditions if they could be imported into the United States.
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@aodhanadalbern2226 6 жыл бұрын

Leave it to KZfaq commenters to take time out of their lives to tell a multilingual combat veteran how he is and isn’t allowed to pronounce the name of the country he fought in. It’s quite something. As usual, a very interesting video Miles. Thank you for your service, and for this one of a kind firearms content.

@nemo5335 4 жыл бұрын

especially when the way he pronounces it is objectively correct.

@JohnSmith-jz4pk 3 жыл бұрын

i mean he was mispronouncing it......

@MrMattumbo 6 жыл бұрын

Very cool, my dad brought back one of those 1861 percussion-cap Tower muskets from Afganistan back in 2008 and it was literally sitting in front of me as I watched this. Super cool to see the selection and learn more about the history of these old British guns!

@mcchickenvlogs7290 6 жыл бұрын

MrMattumbo I thought the military didn’t let you bring guns back anymore ?

@joshuamarvin7400 3 жыл бұрын

@@mcchickenvlogs7290 Old enough to fall under C&R rules, you can ship it home by mail as a souvenir.

@john-paulsilke893 6 жыл бұрын

Holy crap Miles. I thought you could only speak multiple middle eastern languages, I didn’t realize you were fully literate. I’m guessing you get awfully tired of people not being impressed by you!?! I humbly suggest you feed on their frustrated tears and keep on keeping on. Oh and brilliant rifles, there is some serious history in the world in places other then North America. 😊

@CaleMcGowan 6 жыл бұрын

John-Paul Silke ???

@john-paulsilke893 6 жыл бұрын

Miles gets a hard time from many people who talk crap about his correct and respectful pronunciation of other languages especially middle eastern languages.

@mogaman28 6 жыл бұрын

North América or rather the USA only has two centuries top of history so it isnt that impressive that other places had long history behind them

@elitearbor 6 жыл бұрын

I'll never get bored of videos like this. Thanks for sharing the oddities, antique and reproduction alike.

@h1017412 6 жыл бұрын

I enjoy this TFB TV member's reviews. He's experienced combat in this country and whilst he hasn't gone "full native", appreciates the history and culture of the country. Admirable.

@wickedgoodweaponry7234 6 жыл бұрын

Fake, repoduction, or real these are still really cool guns, and great prices! Good video thanks Miles

@dustyak79 6 жыл бұрын

Some are real but counterfeit proof marks Kabul Arsenal had British tooling and guidance. I own a Martini cavalry with Enfield proofs but they messed up an I for a 1 and most likely they know about import restrictions cause they are all pre 98 even though they were making Martinis well into the 1900s

@nemo5335 4 жыл бұрын

IMO it's actually pretty impressive that these folks can make these guns given the circumstances. they don't have a lot of modern tools, and while these guns can be a bit rough, i sure as hell couldn't build a functional firearm with hand tools.

@salt_97 6 жыл бұрын

Miles is definitely my favourite presenter. Keep it up man.

@huntzy4220 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Miles! I really appreciate these videos... Very interesting part of the world!

@Cosworth190e 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting video. I still have my snider conversion and martini henry that I brought home from my deployment to Afghanistan in 2011. They were $250 each back then. Prices seem to have almost doubled now!

@matthewmoss1589 6 жыл бұрын

Good vid Miles!

@litoneup 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see a young man this ambitious and knowledgeable.

@VengeanceRMP 6 жыл бұрын

Greatly appreciate this content and look forward of learning about more foreign made arms. Thank you!

@joefoam794 6 жыл бұрын

Really enjoying the world tour. Keep 'em coming.

@coyote9594 6 жыл бұрын

Loving the historical content! Keep up the good work!

@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube 3 жыл бұрын

You da man, Miles! Very interesting video. Probably the 3rd or 4th time I’ve seen it.

@danielcuevas5899 6 жыл бұрын

Anyway we can financially support this channel?

@tfbtv 6 жыл бұрын

Check out our Patreon Page buddy!! -Miles

@tfbtv 6 жыл бұрын

patreon.com/TFBTV Thanks! - James

@Mrgunsngear 6 жыл бұрын

very cool

@Ty-jw6up 6 жыл бұрын

Good video keep up the good content.

@maxie706 5 жыл бұрын

"Had a 100 Year service life... thinking about it, the m16 is coming up on that" No. No, it isn't. we are nowhere near 2065

@louislarose4023 6 жыл бұрын

Cool Vid. Just a point of clarification; The big ring on a cavalry carbine is not to fix it to the horse. it is there to be clipped to the RIDER. ,so that if the rider is knocked out of the saddle ,his gun stays with him.

@DoomStarRequiem 4 жыл бұрын

I can just imagine how the owner of the shop was happy for the free international advertising and lessons.

@jasonfry5846 4 жыл бұрын

With the British flint lock, that's not a front sight, it's bayonet lug.

@ironmatic1 6 жыл бұрын

That P53 stock looks to have been annihilated around the lock from over carving. Also stop dry firing flintlocks without a flint, caplocks, and Martini-Henrys!

@richardspeed7135 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing, a man of knowledge

@johndaugherty4127 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, the great days of tfb.

@jameshanor4345 6 жыл бұрын

Vining crankin’ out the content.

@joshrodriguez238 6 жыл бұрын

Very informative thanks

@SupraRZ95 6 жыл бұрын

"Hey guys, this rifle is old, and valuable, ima just DRY FIRE it."

@Gibblegobblegoob 6 жыл бұрын

SupraRZ95 he never dry fired anything with a firing pin there's no harm here

@SupraRZ95 6 жыл бұрын

Dry fires percussion cap rifle, could peen the nipple hole inward so a percussion cap cant be seated. Enfield converted to trap door style, he also dry fires that as well. And a few others. Just irresponsible imo.

@ap1s2k78 6 жыл бұрын

That was really hard to watch

@FrejthKing 4 жыл бұрын

what a fucking imbecile

@33varebel 4 жыл бұрын

Every dry fire hurt me so bad.

@true-fiction 6 жыл бұрын

A colection of rifles taken the hard way.

@ericgarrardjr.1408 6 жыл бұрын

If you were to purchase one, how would you bring it back to the US?

@V0YAG3R 4 жыл бұрын

Eric Garrard Jr. Just like prison I guess. Smuggled in your colon! 👌🏻

@frostmafia1380 3 жыл бұрын

By ship

@expertadvice4u 6 жыл бұрын

Cool episode thx

@alexs5744 4 жыл бұрын

Do they still make Jezails? I would love to own a working Jezail.

@huckleberry602 6 жыл бұрын

Prices seem awfully steep to me! I can find these for the same price here in the US, without the life threatening trip to the Middle East.

@Chatekitey72 4 жыл бұрын

If you could find them that easily in the US this video wouldn't exist u broke ass nigga :)

@baneofbanes 4 жыл бұрын

huckleberry602 Where you at?

@warriors221 2 жыл бұрын

Afghanistan is in asia not middle east

@chlebowg 6 жыл бұрын

Nicely done Miles, now if I can only leave this FOB to down there...….

@thomaslinden7598 6 жыл бұрын

dry fireing those cap guns really not good for them

@john-paulsilke893 6 жыл бұрын

thomas linden some of them are actually toys and not real plus all of them can have their nipples replaced. If the shop owner doesn’t or didn’t complain then there really is no problem.

@BDJans 6 жыл бұрын

Those “cap guns” are in Afghanistan. It’s not like they’re seeing the US market anytime soon so who gives a shit

@thomkatt 6 жыл бұрын

That made me cringe as well

@ironmatic1 6 жыл бұрын

Not is really dry firing flintlock without a flint.

@mrstarfishh33 6 жыл бұрын

He's showing how the action works not playing cowboys and Indians all day with it.

@RayW808 6 жыл бұрын

I liked just because you Vacation in AFGHANISTAN, you earned it...

@pauljones9746 6 жыл бұрын

Whats the US and international law on buying and bringing in antique muzzle loaders into the states?

@averydrew478 6 жыл бұрын

Good video Miles

@ADRay1999 6 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t mind owing a martini Henry they look cool.... while playing BB1 that was the third rifle I played with the most

@nathanielwowchuk6880 3 жыл бұрын

Look at these amazing old guns. Dry fire: *snap*

@islamic-studio674 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any colt or military type m4 rifle available in these shops in good condition???

@CNT12696 6 жыл бұрын

I'm going to need one of each.

@mokpoly 6 жыл бұрын

good to see you in one piece. Just don't get hurt.

@gflex3505 6 жыл бұрын

fuck yeah man this video is awesome, Kabul has fantastic firearm history

@williameaston136 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool

@forestchicken3302 3 жыл бұрын

If I knew what I know now when I was 19 and over there I woupd have smuggled out alot of these.

@gageallison1115 6 жыл бұрын

Man that carbine is great looking, and it's a SBR

@nicholasdiaz724 2 жыл бұрын

Spin up the GUNS! And pile o' GUNZ! Hell yeah.

@r.m.cortez8178 6 жыл бұрын

How would you being it back to the states ?

@gageallison1115 6 жыл бұрын

Man you're looking skinnier, how long have you been in Kabul now, or Is this just old footage?

@riccardobizzaro9818 6 жыл бұрын

Can you export this guns out of state and take it home or there is a regulation of it ?

@MrMattumbo 6 жыл бұрын

Antiques are importable, and I don't think muzzleloaders even count as firearms under current laws. My father was able to bring back one of the Tower muskets Miles showed in the video as an Army officer back in 2008, but I think he said even enlisted guys could bring them back without any trouble. Unfortunately, they don't let soldiers bring back modern firearms anymore though.

@dustyak79 6 жыл бұрын

pre 1898 you can that's why some of them are counterfeit proofed with wrong dates they were making in country Martinis well into the 1900s so they scrubbed and changed. Plus Enfields are more sought after than the unreadable Dari script.

@texasdeeslinglead2401 6 жыл бұрын

Riccardo Bizzaro just check c&r list

@michaelsorrell601 5 жыл бұрын

Antique, put it in packaging so it will get home without being stolen. Baggage.

@ThisOldHat 6 жыл бұрын

anyone else cringing when he dry fires with those percussion locks?

@gunnermurphy6632 3 жыл бұрын

2 years later, but yes

@ImOldGregg 6 жыл бұрын

It would’ve been really tough to walk away without that cavalry carbine

@dt-4535 6 жыл бұрын

Love that Martini, I want one in 303.

@yunassaxer7119 3 жыл бұрын

great!

@jayfelsberg1931 6 жыл бұрын

A friend's son-in-law brought him a Martini-Henry from Afghanistan and I hate him. I admit I would go crazy buying Lee-Enfields if I could. I only have 10 and that's hardly enough when you suffer from Enfield Lust. Enfield collectors are different.

@jbc98k 6 жыл бұрын

Do they sell ammo for the Snider rifles there?

@johnfisk811 6 жыл бұрын

Th Snider is the easiest BP cartridge rifle to hand load. No need for any special kit. xringservices@yahoo.com will supply the cases and bullet moulds at very reasonable prices and no, I have no connection to them. See ;britishmuzzleloaders' videos on youtube for guidance.

@marshaltito7232 4 жыл бұрын

I've seen quite a few 1883 dated LSA Martini Henry's come out of Afghanistan. I wonder why so many private purchase LSA MH's with the same date ended up there.

@baneofbanes 4 жыл бұрын

Sage Gaston If they’re all the same date it was probably a batch that was ordered by the Afghan government.

@mg_claymore8611 5 жыл бұрын

Miles gone full native

@GreenBeretUSA 6 жыл бұрын

Can you buy a Bayonet or something like that and bring it home?

@Brennan_the_smith 6 жыл бұрын

ow my I would have a hard time I would have bought one of everything

@jacobriddle7230 6 жыл бұрын

How do you bring them back to the us

@SamirHashami 4 жыл бұрын

Im going to Afghanistan to see family how do i import one of these?

@MrKaido93 3 жыл бұрын

No British Percussion revolvers?

@gageallison1115 6 жыл бұрын

What are the gun laws like in Kabul?

@timothyconley5871 5 жыл бұрын

You know finding old ammo is difficult in Florida only one place in volusia county

@aldoraine3364 6 жыл бұрын

Nice 19th century rifles

@yakmalxc 4 жыл бұрын

US born Afghan here. How do we bring these state side?

@salty_armorer4027 5 жыл бұрын

So where's the video that talks about how an American civilian is supposed to travel there, buy these things, and then get them back to the states?

@ethanking4954 4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he just said that you can buy them as a deal with the owner

@salty_armorer4027 4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanking4954 I've watched many videos on this subject since I posted this, buying the guns is not the issue, it's getting in there to buy them. Westerners aren't liked in the Middle East, and Americans are the most disliked. Even Americans of direct Pakistani heritage have to have some kind of connection in the area to safely get in there.

@GabrielDipo 5 жыл бұрын

1:12 i thought somebody talk to me from behind

@chickenlad483 3 жыл бұрын

Just take a long trip and a few Gs and bring the entire arsenal home

@lesleynelson6750 6 жыл бұрын

can Americans go to kabul buy guns then send them back to the states?

@Nick-xj9ij 6 жыл бұрын

Semper Fi

@chrishanson4025 3 жыл бұрын

That is not a forsight on the Brown Bess, it is a bayonet lug. If you fix the bayonet, you cant see the lug any more

@misterkaos.357 Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one here who just wants to see him fire a real Jezail?

@j.s.7366 6 жыл бұрын

That’s right, the cav has the best weapons. Sorry infantry, no use for a 6 ft long musket.

@willroyer1 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. But why the hell are you in Afghanistan?

@tfbtv 6 жыл бұрын

Working a job like anyone else in the country? -Miles

@willroyer1 6 жыл бұрын

....who ya working for?

@johnfisk811 6 жыл бұрын

Your "Brown Bess' is not a service example judging by the lock markings. Nice example of it's own type though. Shortened ones were not issued to artillery (they had their own carbine bore types) but was to Fencible, Militia and Volunteer cavalry in the Napoleonic Wars to use up unserviceable stocks of parts and release proper cavalry carbines for front line troops and Britain's allies who got them by the hundreds of thousands. The percussion is not a Brown Bess at all. It is an Honourable East India Company late type musket of the 1840s. It's rear sight is made for 50, 100 and 140 yards with different sight positions. With a replica service paper cartridge mine would hit a man size target always at 50 metres and usually at 100 metres.Mr Pyne arrived from Yorkshire via Calcutta in 1886 and set up the Mashin Khana factory to make Martini Henry rifles beginning production about 1890. No P1853 nor Sniders, whatever Afridi tribal gunsmiths may have been knocking out by hand in the hills.Nice to see the inside and stock of one of the better shops. Thank you for that.

@tberkoff 5 жыл бұрын

They are all reproductions made in the Khyber Pass gun shops.

@MrSven3000 6 жыл бұрын

sucha jezail would be a cool thing to own. does anyone know a company that offers reproductions ? like the rifle shoppe maybe ?

@afgibnasina 6 жыл бұрын

Miles got balls.

@conorabbott8191 5 жыл бұрын

Cough the British used short lands primarily in the rev war

@crazytaco8887 6 жыл бұрын

i dont know how comfortable i would feel visiting kabul, let alone that firearms shop. not only because of US operations there, but because at some point some of those weapons will probably be sold to insurgents, and you're most likely walking among a few former, current, or future insurgents

@baneofbanes 6 жыл бұрын

Are the Taliban really that desperate for arms?

@Jeffhomulton 6 жыл бұрын

they're running better guns than that lol

@crazytaco8887 6 жыл бұрын

not necessarily this particular gun store, but the other modern ones within the city. i believe he made a video in one of these also

@michaelchristopher2003 5 жыл бұрын

Can I legally mail a musket from Afghanistan to the Us?

@psdirewolf 6 жыл бұрын

please don't put a metal ramrod down a barrel without something to protect the barrel.

@riccardobizzaro9818 6 жыл бұрын

@kcraig51 6 жыл бұрын

What's this guy's address? I'm going to Kabul.....

@sirbrick7105 6 жыл бұрын

Where are the AKs and RPGs?

@benwilkins6208 6 жыл бұрын

Dont be silly, relevant weapons are sold in convenience stores in Afghanistan, not antique stores

@larptm9083 6 жыл бұрын

@oingoboingo8342 6 жыл бұрын

deus vult

@W.Stryker 4 жыл бұрын

Those probably cannot be shipped to the US

@urmum1959 6 жыл бұрын

lol I wonder if this is where someone in Marina Joyce's family got that Martini Henry that everyone was calling a "shotgun" and using it as evidence that she was being forced to make videos.

@holdenroth5929 6 жыл бұрын

Why is Miles in Afghanistan?

@tfbtv 6 жыл бұрын

Because it is a fascinating country. -Miles

@graeme3023 6 жыл бұрын

TFB TV - It is indeed a fascinating country. I served there twice (2006 and 2008) but only Helmand unfortunately (British Army - 3 Para). Helmand isn't exactly a place I'd want to go back to as a tourist, but Kabul looks interesting. What's the security situation like now?

@calebreutener870 Жыл бұрын

dang i wish Americans could still go there

@jwells5155 6 жыл бұрын

Miles love your videos. But one who is well spoken. It’s CAVALRY not Calvary CAValry Scouts Out!!

@AwesomeFantasyXI 5 жыл бұрын

The gun at 3:44 is a copy of a p1853 enfield musket. The british made ones had a better rear sight. So this one would be a foreign made, Maybe in india. The Pattern 1853 (P1853) were all originally smooth bore muskets and later had rifling added. Then all mark 1 and 2 Sniders were made from P1853 rifles and converted. Mark 3 Sniders were made from new as a Snider. In fact the Snider at 6:22 is exactly like mine. A mark 3 1869 Enfield, Granted it is in better condition as mine.

@toldyouso5588 4 жыл бұрын

Pssst you want buy hashish?

@zachbrennan3609 6 жыл бұрын

I really wish they'd buy you a microphone that's worth a shit

@ThatBethesdaGuy 6 жыл бұрын

Zach Brennan audio quality is good you maggot.

@zachbrennan3609 6 жыл бұрын

Deep South if you watch his videos verses others, his audio quality is worse. Which sucks because his videos are super interesting. By the way, way to go straight to name calling. You kiss your cousin with that mouth?

@PingasMonkey3rdClass 4 жыл бұрын

*dry firing intensifies*

@jaspercorbyn8678 4 жыл бұрын

british army carrying Bess in Kabul retreat?

@synysterguitar63 6 жыл бұрын

the m16 is about 56 years from 100 years old my dude....

@paullytle246 6 жыл бұрын

Fiction52 if you use the ar10 production as the date its pushing 70

@General.Longstreet 6 жыл бұрын

They all look well used . Prices dont seem that great.

@dustyak79 6 жыл бұрын

Seems like its a more reputable shop he didn't outright call some of the British proofs forged but he implied it when he said they were manufactured there. Id imagine the owner told him so cause some the forged marks are hard to tell.